Post: #1

*I’m writing this post with the assumption that a lot of you have read Bang.

Do any of you give straight, truthful answers to “Where are you from?” or “How old are you?”

What substitutes are there for “Guess!”?

“Guess!” (in Spanish I use “Que crees?”) has seemed so powerful to me since I first got into this whole thing. It preserves some mystery, if you will, but in a truly playful way that wishes to engage the person with a foreseeable objective on their end given inputs they already have from you (your appearance, your accent, your demeanor). It is far from the snarky “Wouldn’t you like to know?” perversions that USA girls are currently being advised to use.

It makes the girl think about you, makes her take a second, closer look at you, and makes her analyze what she observes in you. This will of course be good for you if you have your shit together and/or are attractive.

I have heard lots of variations on the idea that a girl decides in x minutes or seconds whether or not she wants to sleep with you, and am very willing to believe it is less than two minutes. “Guess” is usually deployed within those first two minutes and I think it works wonders in terms of controlling the frame.

It helps to avoid this occurrence, which I had experienced and overheard many times…
girl: “Where are you from?”
guy: *leans in* “I’m from Normal, Illinois.”
girl: *nods politely*/Ah, cool./Nice! My stepdad is from there.
guy: Yeah, it’s awesome…
*energy ends*

But what I am wondering is whether there is a consistent substitute for “Guess!”

For “how old are you?” are there any substitutes for “Guess!” you’d like to post here?
e.g. some shit like “Don’t worry, I ‘m legal”

And for “where are you from?” if one is from Miami or Istanbul or some similarly awe-inspiring place, can one leverage that in a playful, high-energy, frame-controlling way?

Post: #2

"Guess" is a classic which I use constantly.

Straightforward answers kill any mystery.

Also my go to line re: age:

Girl: How old are you?
Me: 42
Girl: what?! No way!!
Me: Yep. I've had some plastic surgery.
Girl: Holy shit you look great for 42!
Me: (great litmus test for how naive a girl is)
Of course doll
Girl: Wait...show me your ID...
Or
Girl: Well you have great genes!

This plays out a variety of ways all of which are fun and favorable. Have NEVER had a negative reaction and it's playful.

Post: #3

Guess is great. It also gives you feedback.

Because of it I know that having some facial hair ages me 1-2 years, and also that I have a Spanish/Italian appearance although only a very small portion of me is European.

Post: #4

+1. I am a big believer in "guess".

Many girls won't guess. This is because they are self conscious about guessing wrong, and offending you.

Don't give her any leeway. Force her to guess, with a bastard smirk on your face. If she won't do it, it will hang in the air for a long time, and give you more value, intrigue, and challenge the whole ride.

Just did this 5 minutes ago in a cafe. Polish girls hate to guess. She demanded the answer 9 times. By the end of the interaction, she was worked up into a frenzy. (She eventually guessed, 20 minutes later. Almost correctly). Then she offered her number, before her friend took her.

"Guess."

Accept no substitutes.

Post: #5

It's been so long since I read bang..

What is "Guess" again, exactly? You just say guess and make them guess?

Post: #6

(09-28-2013 12:36 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  "Guess" is a classic which I use constantly.

Straightforward answers kill any mystery.

Also my go to line re: age:

Girl: How old are you?
Me: 42
Girl: what?! No way!!
Me: Yep. I've had some plastic surgery.
Girl: Holy shit you look great for 42!
Me: (great litmus test for how naive a girl is)
Of course doll
Girl: Wait...show me your ID...
Or
Girl: Well you have great genes!

This plays out a variety of ways all of which are fun and favorable. Have NEVER had a negative reaction and it's playful.

I do this too, haha. I actually got it from my Mom, who's in her early 50s, but could pass for 40. She started doing it because rather than lying about her age and say she was younger, she'd lie and say she was older, and enjoy the ensuing compliments about how she looked amazing for her age.

Post: #7

(09-28-2013 12:36 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  "Guess" is a classic which I use constantly.

Straightforward answers kill any mystery.

Also my go to line re: age:

Girl: How old are you?
Me: 42
Girl: what?! No way!!
Me: Yep. I've had some plastic surgery.
Girl: Holy shit you look great for 42!
Me: (great litmus test for how naive a girl is)
Of course doll
Girl: Wait...show me your ID...
Or
Girl: Well you have great genes!

This plays out a variety of ways all of which are fun and favorable. Have NEVER had a negative reaction and it's playful.

I do this too, haha. I actually got it from my Mom, who's in her early 50s, but could pass for 40. She started doing it because rather than lying about her age and say she was younger, she'd lie and say she was older, and enjoy the ensuing compliments about how she looked amazing for her age.

Post: #8

This is one of my default routines. A 7 and 8 are together and walk by in a bar. The 8 has these pajama type looking pants on. I turn my head and say nice pj's with grin. She laughs, touches my arm, and keeps walking.

Few min later they go to the bar, and I walk up and stand next to the 8. Chatted them up for a while, laughing having a good time. They ask me where I was from, I say I'll give you 3 guesses. I give them a hint that the country starts with an S and it's in eastern europe. They both say at the exact same time 'Sicily'! I laugh hysterically and tell them I'm half serbian to end their misery.

I always get a playful positive vibe when using the guess routine.

Post: #9

(09-29-2013 01:39 PM)deathtofatties Wrote:  It's been so long since I read bang..

What is "Guess" again, exactly? You just say guess and make them guess?

Yeah pretty much.

From the When She's Interested section:

"Other than the 'Where do you live?' and 'What's your name' questions, your stock answer will be 'Guess!' until you come up with something more fun." - Roosh, Bang, pg 47

I was looking to see if guys had in fact come up with something more fun but it looks like "Guess" has a good deal of staying power

Post: #10

(09-28-2013 12:21 PM)mr_lucky Wrote:  For “how old are you?” are there any substitutes for “Guess!” you’d like to post here?
e.g. some shit like “Don’t worry, I ‘m legal”

"How old do you think I am?"

I started using this line because a majority of women would ask me that question if I ever asked their age (unless they were being bitchy and telling me that a guy should never ask a girl her age).

A smirk and not telling them if they're right or wrong initially can work wonders. I also realized that women are horrible at guessing men's age.

I also do this with my ethnicity, make them guess. They usually guess a common ethnicity that's pretty far off.

Post: #11

"...unless they were being bitchy and telling me that a guy should never ask a girl her age)."


Haha one night a couple weeks ago I tried out the reverse as an experiment. A girl would ask me how old I was and I would act offended and say it was too personal a question. Maybe I just did it wrong, but the results were - as predicted - horrible! The interactions tended to end right there. Went back to 'guess' the next night...

Post: #12

Girls tend to be terrible at guessing age, cock size, height etc.

Post: #13

(09-30-2013 03:29 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  Girls tend to be terrible at guessing age, cock size, height etc.

I notice girls tend to take emotional cues from the man - or from other people before deciding how she should feel about something.

If you believe it's 10'' long, she will too.

Wald

Post: #14

(09-30-2013 03:28 PM)mr_lucky Wrote:  Haha one night a couple weeks ago I tried out the reverse as an experiment. A girl would ask me how old I was and I would act offended and say it was too personal a question. Maybe I just did it wrong, but the results were - as predicted - horrible! The interactions tended to end right there. Went back to 'guess' the next night...

You're doing it wrong.

I usually am reacting to their question but not negatively like in your example. I'm smirking and then usually have a half or full smile when I'm delivering the line, calm, not challenging them, just genuinely interested in hearing their answer because I KNOW that with asking that question they've telegraphed their interest in me, they don't really care that much how old I am. Women by and large don't ask a guy's age if they're not already interested in him.

McQueen is right, most girls can't tell height or age or cock size, even if they're practically right up on you. It's a great thing for every guy.

Post: #15

"Where do I look like" or "Where do you think?" works well. Especially when abroad for girls judging accents.

Post: #16

Some girls in class asked my age, I told them to guess.

3 days later, their still bugging me about it and becoming more persistent about it each time.

Its incredible how powerfully elegant and simple this tactic is.

Post: #17

I like to just bullshit. Example:

"How old are you?"
"Don't know."
"What do you mean you don't know"
"Yeah I was found living feral in the woods sometime in my teens. No one really knows how old I am."

Or something like that. Doesn't really matter, obviously chicks know I'm bullshitting, but it's fun for both of us.

Post: #18

(10-02-2013 11:39 PM)JackDavey Wrote:  I like to just bullshit. Example:

"How old are you?"
"Don't know."
"What do you mean you don't know"
"Yeah I was found living feral in the woods sometime in my teens. No one really knows how old I am."

Or something like that. Doesn't really matter, obviously chicks know I'm bullshitting, but it's fun for both of us.

Yep.
Guess is an excellent default to go to, but obvious bullshit is fun too.

"How old are you?"
"25 winters old."
"Wut"
(chuckle) "Here's a candy."

Post: #19

(10-02-2013 11:52 PM)Sharkie Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 11:39 PM)JackDavey Wrote:  I like to just bullshit. Example:

"How old are you?"
"Don't know."
"What do you mean you don't know"
"Yeah I was found living feral in the woods sometime in my teens. No one really knows how old I am."

Or something like that. Doesn't really matter, obviously chicks know I'm bullshitting, but it's fun for both of us.

Yep.
Guess is an excellent default to go to, but obvious bullshit is fun too.

"How old are you?"
"25 winters old."
"Wut"
(chuckle) "Here's a candy."

Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with giving an actual answer after that point. It's the contrast which girls find attractive. They like a guy who's mysterious and cocky, but also somewhat concrete and real.

Personally, I falsify that concrete reality and give a fake age and identity, but they appreciate whatever bone you throw them.

It comes down to the old-school idea of "rapport". Don't overgame broads you want to fuck.

Post: #20

I don't remember who said it on this forum, but for the age question "Old enough to know what I'm doing, young enough to do it more than once" works pretty well. My go to is guess. Then no matter what they say respond with "wow, you're pretty good" (smirk). That usually gets them into a more playful mood because they know they missed, but I'm not going to answer until I let them twist in the wind for a bit.

I always answer the "where do you live" question straight. The way I see it, if she's asking that question there's probably some logistical planning going on in her head, even if she doesn't intend on using it.