This weekend pulled a cute 20 yr old tall blonde chick back to the crib.

As soon as we get back, she's jumping on top of me, ripping off my shirt and pants.

Gets naked quickly took, nice perky tits, small but round ass. Immediately takes cock in mouth, and proceeds to provide very good and enthusiastic head.

I'm thinking wow, easiest lay ever. However when I stick my fingers inside her, she's super tight, and grimaces with pain, tells me only to rub the outside.

I strap on a rubber, and she says what are you doing? I'm a virgin...and I am not having sex with you tonight!

Thought I was def gonna plow through it, played with her pussy for over an hour, even rubbing my cock on her clit but as soon as I started sticking my cock in, she would start freaking out - told me she would give me as much head as I'd like, but there was no way she was fucking me.

I'm guessing I'll get the bang next time I see her, but damn I was shocked I couldn't get past her bullshit LMR. How can you be cool meeting a guy and deep-throating his cock an hour later, but still be a virgin? (Only reason I believe her is because she was so tight, and she seemed to be in pain when I put 1 finger inside)

... Disappointing, but I accept the challenge.

(08-18-2013 05:00 PM)Spider Wrote:  This weekend pulled a cute 20 yr old tall blonde chick back to the crib.

As soon as we get back, she's jumping on top of me, ripping off my shirt and pants.

Gets naked quickly took, nice perky tits, small but round ass. Immediately takes cock in mouth, and proceeds to provide very good and enthusiastic head.

I'm thinking wow, easiest lay ever. However when I stick my fingers inside her, she's super tight, and grimaces with pain, tells me only to rub the outside.

I strap on a rubber, and she says what are you doing? I'm a virgin...and I am not having sex with you tonight!

Thought I was def gonna plow through it, played with her pussy for over an hour, even rubbing my cock on her clit but as soon as I started sticking my cock in, she would start freaking out - told me she would give me as much head as I'd like, but there was no way she was fucking me.

I'm guessing I'll get the bang next time I see her, but damn I was shocked I couldn't get past her bullshit LMR. How can you be cool meeting a guy and deep-throating his cock an hour later, but still be a virgin? (Only reason I believe her is because she was so tight, and she seemed to be in pain when I put 1 finger inside)

... Disappointing, but I accept the challenge.

Good luck man!

I had a 19 y/o virgin over a little whiles back, she didn't jump me but she was enthusiastic once we started, gave head with no complaint and did not resist sex at all (other than that it hurt and she didn't want the pain).

When I did try to put it in the first time, she basically yelled "you are not fucking me without a condom!!" which sucked because I had no reason not to raw dog a virgin and believed her considering the way she said it. After another hour of going down on her and fingering, she lets me attempt to go in with no condom in sight

Hope you get it on the next visit!

I think it's vibe. Vibe is huge with me. If it's off doesn't matter how I look or dressed or anything; it repels. When I'm ON I'm ON.

Good analogies.

When you're used to getting it whenever you want and it doesn't happen, it trips us out and then the self-analysis begins, which makes it worse.

We pull more ass in one year then most cats do their whole lives so remember all your conquests and keep plugging.

Likewise my harem girls are still thirsty as ever.

Went out the past 2 nights, Did some hardcore approaching.
Last night was the icing on the cake.

It was about 5am , I was drunk as a skunk stumbling to my car from the club with a chick about a 7/8 while I was wasted, I get to the lot and my fucking car was GONE! Probably towed and I couldn't fathom why.

My ass sobered up so fast! So i'm clueless as to How I would get home and ask her what she's going to do. She's says she'll call a cab and wait it out with me. The cab doesn't even come. So I'm talking a bunch of shit and I say " Im angry and horny, I could sure fuck something real hard"
She laughs, and ask in a serious voice whats so funny, she gives me a blank stare like she's scared and I pulled her in for a kiss. We made out for a bit and told her to follow me. I led her behind the building and we madeout somemore , She felt me up and I whipped out my John, she starts blowing me and 30 seconds later I hear the fucking Cab blowing his horn, She immediately jumps up and says lets go.

We're in the cab pulling out the lot and we pass the other side of the Lot that wasn't in my immediate view and guess what I fucking see! MY CAR. My Drunk ass completely forgot that I had left and parked elsewhere. We hop out the cab went in my whip and she finished the job! My Car didn't get towed and I got some good Head at the end of it all. A Good Night indeed.

After all of this crap , the Sun is Out and I finally dropped this hoe off and make it to my pad. Elevator was Broke so I had to walk up 10 flights of stairs feeling like this

My pipelining is helping to stage off the usual summer dry spell.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-11951-page-44.html

I am getting freaked about fucking older girls.. women, because I believe there is a greater chance of them having STDs than a younger girl. Trying to keep a cap on things and just fuck females 30 years old or younger.

Looks like ol' kickboxer is going to be buying a precautionary plan b pill tomorrow.

I dont think I busted in her but my dick has been sputtering lately, might have got her with a few drops.

Better safe than paying child support I always say.

This will probably going to freak her out, but oh well.

(08-19-2013 12:13 AM)kickboxer Wrote:  Looks like ol' kickboxer is going to be buying a precautionary plan b pill tomorrow.

I dont think I busted in her but my dick has been sputtering lately, might have got her with a few drops.

Better safe than paying child support I always say.

This will probably going to freak her out, but oh well.

Ha- I had pretty much impregnated a girl a few weeks ago when the condom got yanked off by her tight pussy and pre-bang blowjob lubrication, and I blasted as hard as I could way up into her cervix.

I gave her $20 for plan B.

Banged her out a couple days ago and fucked her in a way that initiated her period so I know there won't be a baby Soup coming around.

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I'm starting to think that Sunday is the best day for game.

Girls are more off guard and available it seems. Also, the ones who didn't get fucked on Fri or Sat need to get their fix.

This weekend I was surrounded by attractive female volleyball players after a tournament at the hot tub and playing beer pong, and a friend of a female friend, Russian by birth but raised in the states, amazing body, totally into me, liquored up, and I had to throw in the towel as my friends with benefits showed up and then someone told her the Russian was all into me ( not even that I did anything with the Russian) and then my fwb broke down crying and I went to talk to her and had to break things off with her and she's obviously in love with me and ends up despondent all night so I pull her away from alcohol and spend the night with her while she bawls her eyes out and the Russian, my roommate and the Russians mutual friend are wondering where I went and they all tell me the Russian was primed to go home with me. What the fuck?! ? ! ?

It will be better in the long run but this Russian chick is fucking hot. We'll see if I get another shot With her. She even texted me today admitting she was ready to go home with me Saturday night. Fuck. Soup. McQueen. I've got no harem and I threw away a near guaranteed hot lay that I had to play like a fiddle to keep her wanting me instead of any one of the taller in better shape guys than me at the tournament. I hope you two feel better.

Question for you higher-end players- How big of a harem is too big? How many women/week is too much?

I've been hashing it out w/Mcqueen. He mentioned his thoughts already, but Id like your guys perspective?

Situation- I've been filling my phone w/tons of #s. Some I haven't even had the opportunity to meet. In short, I've been on an absolute summer pimpin' streak. I now have 4 dope, hot girls in my harem + a couple girls that drift in and out+a gripe of new notches+ a schedule thats pretty booked (because of work, gym, friends, and hobbies).

I try not to see any of my harem on friday/saturday and swoop/gather new talent. Nonetheless, I think I've reached a time-girl -commitment saturation point.

(08-19-2013 10:09 AM)DVY Wrote:  Question for you higher-end players- How big of a harem is too big? How many women/week is too much?

I've been hashing it out w/Mcqueen. He mentioned his thoughts already, but Id like your guys perspective?

Situation- I've been filling my phone w/tons of #s. Some I haven't even had the opportunity to meet. In short, I've been on an absolute summer pimpin' streak. I now have 4 dope, hot girls in my harem + a couple girls that drift in and out+a gripe of new notches+ a schedule thats pretty booked (because of work, gym, friends, and hobbies).

I try not to see any of my harem on friday/saturday and swoop/gather new talent. Nonetheless, I think I've reached a time-girl -commitment saturation point.

Yes, there are different tiers to the harem.

There are girls that you are seeing once or twice a week or more, and there are girls that you rarely see but will call or get called by out the blue after a long period of inactivity.

There are different ways to win the game. If your goal is to have a rotation of the finest girls, than you've got your work cut out for you. Then it becomes just a matter of how much time do you have available to devote to these matters.

If your goal is to be constantly getting new pussy or building notch count, then having a harem at all can be slowing you down.

I try to see use my harem connections to make up for times when I'm either too tired to go out, or am not feeling the vibe with my game. I can call a girl over and get my nut.

Lol DVY you ask this same question every few months.

The answer is always the same, prioritize for what you want.

If you want to rotate 4 girls or more then you're going to be bogged down running on fumes for sure. If you want to make it more relaxed then step off the pedal.

Just think about what you want long-term and balance that with what makes you happy today.

If you're not happy with sex life the answer is to try and bang more girls. If you're drowning in annoying text messages from sluts then your answer is to drop off and start focusing on other things like lifting, building a biz etc.

All depends on what you want, no one can answer this for you.

@WC- thanks bro. When I am swooping, I enjoy it but I keep thinking "this is unreal" and unsustainable. Then I add a girl or two more into the harem, and yet I am doing even better/enjoying myself.

Its just a little bit of mental thought saying "How much is too much?"

Similar to squatting. You keep adding weight and keep thinking to yourself- "How much is too much?" How much do you really need to squat? Just going through moments of self-doubt/reality-check/self-evaluation....

I guess ill be honest and say I dont even really know what I want. I know what I don't want, but what I do want is vaguely defined

Edit- Ima send you some pics bro.

I have the reverse view of you.

If you believe it is unreal and unsustainable it means you think it's "going to go away one day" so you are trying to hang on to this "heater".

The truth is game is game.

Yes in the future you will likely have some random dry spells and some random heaters. But there is no point in driving yourself insane because you think it's going to "go away". It never does, it's like playing hoops again your jumper comes back if you learned to shoot properly.

So just have fun with the heater or take a break. You should know by now that it is all just more approaches so just sit down and ask if you want to continue like this or not. If so keep doing it if not switch up your routine.

Your concern is basically a "1st world player problem". Ie not a problem at all, if you're stressed then you definitely should switch it up.

I'll be striaght I am basically going through player fatigue right now, I have lost significant interest in game and spend less than 3 hours on it a week at this point. Just as happy now with 2-3 numbers to call in the phone as I was running around 4 days a week.

I believe that if you don't use it, you lose it.

But, I think game is also like riding a bike. If you haven't done it in a while, you can probably get back into pretty easily if you've already put in the initial work to build out of the blue pill world.

If you take a break from your harem and game, you might want to adjust your expectations.

^ this is false. I will have to disagree with you.

All you need is a few approaches and you're back in the swing of things. If you approach 1 chick a week you'll never "lose it".

The fear of "losing it" is actually weak inner game.

Your mood should not swing from heaters to dry spells. You should be the same throughout, because you know deep down you're the same person. You shouldn't be phased by streaks.

That's what I said- it's like riding a bike.

But if you don't use it, it gets rusty easily.

Approaching women is like working out. You should do it even if you have a girlfriend.

I remember when I had an LTR in my early twenties, I stopped working out because I thought I had accomplished a goal.

Truth is that you approach to for your own entertainment just like you work out not to look cool for other people, but feel healthy and get your energy up.

Call me silly... But when you are riding a huge heater, theres always this vague feeling that the dry streak is around the corner. The uncertainty of it is unsettling. The dry spell itself actually doesn't phase me.

An analogy I can give is "taking a test". I feel nothing during the test, after the test, or the week leading up to the test. But coming 5 mins before I get my grade, this vague feeling of uneasiness and anticipation comes. Not logical, because the result is already there, and I should be resigned to take it as it comes, but my mind starts running.

When life is going too smoothly, I get a nagging feeling that an asteroid is going to crash into my car or something ridiculous like that.

^^^Channeling the inner jewish yenta. hahaha.

(08-19-2013 11:34 AM)DVY Wrote:  Call me silly... But when you are riding a huge heater, theres always this vague feeling that the dry streak is around the corner. The uncertainty of it is unsettling. The dry spell itself actually doesn't phase me.

An analogy I can give is "taking a test". I feel nothing during the test, after the test, or the week leading up to the test. But coming 5 mins before I get my grade, this vague feeling of uneasiness and anticipation comes. Not logical, because the result is already there, and I should be resigned to take it as it comes, but my mind starts running.

When life is going too smoothly, I get a nagging feeling that an asteroid is going to crash into my car or something ridiculous like that.

^^^Channeling the inner jewish yenta. hahaha.

This is a problem with confidence. Some people don't know how to enjoy the fruits of their labor, or are paranoid that for every good thing they experience, there's got to be a bad thing around the corner.

I sometimes feel that way. I think it's probably some kind of evolved survival strategy. Definitely something common amongst Jews.

The underlying feeling is that you don't deserve it. You aren't good enough.

As far as game goes, you are essentially sowing the seeds of your own harem collapse. The lack of confidence could leak out into your relationships.

Maybe that's what you want. Maybe you want the harem to collapse so you can build a new one.

I think the key to all this is to recognize of these patterns. Maybe you won't be able to intervene, but I believe that when you become aware of patterns like this, you might have a greater chance to own them instead of the other way around.

Worrying about a collapse will create a collapse.

Worrying about anything is pretty much a sure fire way to make it happen.

Worries are for betas, it is a form of fear.

DVY is no where near beta, just need to kill off all worries in life.

(08-19-2013 10:09 AM)DVY Wrote:  Question for you higher-end players

I think I've reached a time-girl -commitment saturation point.

(08-19-2013 10:57 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  Lol DVY you ask this same question every few months.

Lol!

We talked about this 5 weeks ago.

In this same thread, just a few pages back.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-24128-...#pid487554

(08-19-2013 10:09 AM)DVY Wrote:  How big of a harem is too big?

When you can't handle it, it is too big. 

Throughout history, successful men have had harems of hundreds or thousands of women. 

Nowadays, rich guys build dormitories for their harems.

As long as you are happy, and you can handle it, there is no limit.

(08-19-2013 10:09 AM)DVY Wrote:  How many women/week is too much?

You are only limited by your own resources.

Fidel Castro banged a few different girls a day for decades.

The Emperors of Rome and Egypt had orgies everyday.

Hugh Hefner is another example.

The only limitations are time, money, and energy.

(08-19-2013 10:09 AM)DVY Wrote:  I've been on an absolute summer pimpin' streak.

What you are doing is actually called "macking".

If you were "pimping", your girls would be giving you money. If that was the case, you probably wouldn't be asking "how much is too much".

You are spending time, money, and energy on these girls. Thats why it is draining you.

The chase is what wears you out, not the sex.

I say, chase less. Get girls to come to you, on your terms. Make them exert the energy while you conserve yours.

Girls are our recreation. They should energize us not drain us.

If they are draining you, you should re-think your strategy.

(08-19-2013 11:34 AM)DVY Wrote:  The uncertainty of it is unsettling.

When life is going too smoothly, I get a nagging feeling that an asteroid is going to crash into my car or something ridiculous like that.

So, when you are hot you are worried about going cold?!?!?

You are worried about imaginary problems.

All these worries come from your own imagination.

This is a mild form of insanity.

This game has driven many people crazy.

Take a break when you need it.

Work on developing a more energy efficient strategy.

(08-19-2013 11:34 AM)DVY Wrote:  Call me silly... But when you are riding a huge heater, theres always this vague feeling that the dry streak is around the corner. The uncertainty of it is unsettling. The dry spell itself actually doesn't phase me.

I would answer this a different way. If there's one constant, it's change.

You know you won't have the perfect harem forever, it'll change, it'll improve, it'll get worse, it WILL change. Worrying about is not only wasted effort, but can actually affect that change negatively.

DVY that 8 looks like fun. There's nothing wrong with hanging back with a few girls.

For me it's all about options. Doesn't matter if I'm with one girl or six. I need to feel that I can get what I want, when and how I want it.

Everything else is noise.

Thanks boys. RVF- my internet web shrink. I know its not a "real problem", and yet that "feeling" persists. This summer I will do my best to conquer my remaining worries and irrational feelings.

@Gio- Thanks for the historical perspective. This is exactly what I needed.

(08-19-2013 01:29 PM)DVY Wrote:  Thanks boys. RVF- my internet web shrink. I know its not a "real problem", and yet that "feeling" persists. This summer I will do my best to conquer my remaining worries and irrational feelings.

@Gio- Thanks for the historical perspective. This is exactly what I needed.

It's a real "problem" for us ha.

For the apex predators, the problem becomes not "how do I get laid," but "I have too many options"

You ever been to a restaurant where everything on the menu looks amazing?

It's the opposite of the thirsty Ritz cracker condition:

Went to get some car insurance. I thought to myself, " I should change out my work clothes and stunt aka peacock." So I ended up changing. White vneck and photographer pants a bright color. Bishes be lookin haha. Gamed the insurance lady into giving me her number. Stopped by Ross and got a number from the line. Tried to insta date but she wasnt feeling sexy enough to kick it.

Headed to the mall to game some store girls. Mondays should be dead so they should be bored. Pull an Ali"does this make my camel toe stick out?" lines haha. Naw I doubt it. Cant pull it off like some of you players. Today is looking up.