What do you guys do when chicks won't even make eye contact, even when they should (ie. a store clerk). And if you do get a response they mumble out one or two word answers and give every possible sign of disinterest, even though you're a sexy bastard and know they should be interested. Shit really throws me off and having to 100% lead a conversation both freezes me up and kills my attraction to a girl, its like talking to a brick wall.

Went out suited down to check out some shirt/tie/shoe sales and it seemed as if people were actively avoiding both my gaze and my path.

We're you smiling?

I usually have a half smirk going on, but sometimes I zone out and get my serial killer stare going.

I'll try a full smile when I make eye contact with girls instead of the smirk

Could also be girls that have boyfriends and want to avoid any conflict. Depends on whether this is a regular circumstance or one that happens on occasion. Or they're just shy and intimidated.

No new pussy this week so far.

But, I've been getting some numbers. Cleaned out my phone of numbers that haven't responded for several months.

Been skyping with this new one who is out of town:

This Friday I had a pretty decent night at the club.

One of the girls I approached for a dance told me gave me a cheek kiss as she told me she'd love to but she doesn't want to upset her boyfriend (who was floating in the middle of the crowd, looking sad and lost).

Another, whom after I stuck my hand out to her came close to my ear and told me she finds me really attractive but she didn't want to dance and she felt bad.

I had a couple other solid dances, one where I got an easy makeout after following basic dance escalation. She was cute, thin, and taller than me.

By far my best approach the night though was a steal. I'm dancing on my own in the crowd and 3 meters away facing me is a girl, with her two girl friends, dancing in a circle. Each of these girls has a guy behind them (maybe one of these was a bf, but no surprise if they were all randoms or beta friends).

I make eye contact, and I take in her looks. She looks back to make sure I wasn't just making a glance. I hold and intensify the eye contact, and add a small smirk. She becomes distracted in her dance and it's just me and her, it's as if the guy behind her doesn't exist anymore. She can't help but smile back, and I don't hesitate.

I take a step forward, and slowly put my hand out to her, cutting into her circle of friends. My eyes are on her only, and I can feel the eyes of the entire group on me, but it doesn't matter, I know I've already won this. She grabs my hand enthusiastically and I spin her away from the group, as I hear her friends cheering in disbelief and excitement.

The dance was short, nothing too special, but that approach gave me a better high than anything else that night.

Furthermore, saturday night sucked.

On the positive side, I had a couple good dances with girls that besides being attractive, were fun to talk to as well.

To my main girl out for dinner tonight. I'm getting board with her, but I want to keep her in stable. We've boning regularly for a couple months, and she asked me tonight what I thought :"of this situation."

I told her I'm not really thinking about it.

She told me she likes hanging out with me and getting to know me. I said the same.

She left and then I skyped with the other girl from a few posts up. Here's a screengrab

Spent the night with my new regular; I banged her without her having an orgasm; I went to sleep

She woke me up about 3 am using her hands and mouth to get me hard. She climbed on top and ground away until she came with me lying there passive and groggy. This morning I accused her of raping me

Setting up a date with a POFer right now. Got another tomorrow night.

How would you confront a girl who I'm in a semi - LTR with about cheating, if at all?

@ Western Cancer: I've had this happen and what I tend to do is become very dominate and 'force' verbally for their attention. Example:

Store clerk cunt: Did you find everything ok? (Mumbling and no eye contact)

Me: No.

SCC: Oh, what did you need?

Me: Your full attention. You know you seem miserable; you hate this job that much? (Maintaining constant eye contact and winking at the end. It's harsh but the wink softens it)

SCC: (blushing) I do hate it. Ugh! Sorry, been a long day.

Me: blah blah blah

Point is, is that it will give you a certain high by COMMANDING people's attention. If they do not give it willingly, you can 'force' them too. I do this with men and women, because it is a great exercise for social dominance regardless of the setting.

As long as you're safe and haven't promised exclusivity, never ever tell them unless she has verbalized a desire/interest in a 3-way. Just my two cents.

McQueen, I also find the miserable retail girl often has a bus pass and something stupid tattooed on her like YOLO. Game accordingly.

(08-27-2013 04:15 PM)horn Wrote:  As long as you're safe and haven't promised exclusivity, never ever tell them unless she has verbalized a desire/interest in a 3-way. Just my two cents.

I'm not the one cheating.

(08-27-2013 04:14 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  @ Western Cancer: I've had this happen and what I tend to do is become very dominate and 'force' verbally for their attention. Example:

Store clerk cunt: Did you find everything ok? (Mumbling and no eye contact)

Me: No.

SCC: Oh, what did you need?

Me: Your full attention. You know you seem miserable; you hate this job that much? (Maintaining constant eye contact and winking at the end. It's harsh but the wink softens it)

SCC: (blushing) I do hate it. Ugh! Sorry, been a long day.

Me: blah blah blah

Point is, is that it will give you a certain high by COMMANDING people's attention. If they do not give it willingly, you can 'force' them too. I do this with men and women, because it is a great exercise for social dominance regardless of the setting.

This has been my biggest issue: commanding attention,

I need for girls to be checking me out constantly. Otherwise I know I'm off or not bringing it.

Girls will never say it to your face that think you suck (maybe American Miley girls will). They will be polite and in their minds shuffle you to the back as not a viable option for a lover.

In the game this is the death for a player. There's really no coming back from it.

It's like going on a date without having the intention of fucking a girl.

She will sense that you don't have motivation. Or if you are too normal and nice.

Unacceptable. She has to know from the get go that you are, unambiguously, a beast.

Otherwise you are wasting your time. You may think that you are working an uphill battle and to just struggle through it.

No.

Turn away from her and move on to the next girl. You'd better be bringing it.

Also, what McQueen says about softening things with winks is dead-on. I do this in texts where things like teasing or negging can easily get misconstrued.

(08-27-2013 03:58 PM)Every10GivesMeA10 Wrote:  How would you confront a girl who I'm in a semi - LTR with about cheating, if at all?

well, you know how she feels about this ltr.. next her or just start doing stuff to her like you don't care about ltr, but give the impression you're "opening up". i wouldn't tag-team on my ltr but i would a random. so stuff like that.. who knows how many girls she can bring back if she opens up herself more

Great advice mcqueen + soup.

Reading your posts made me realize I've been suffering from a case of bailing when "ideal game conditions" aren't met (see VKs post). I use indirect game during the day so I can feel a girl out. This is good, but this also lends itself to bailing quickly on "maybe" girls. I'm pretty good at reading a "no" girl, but "maybe" girls are my weakness.

Most of the cute girls I see during the day are either store clerks at a store or they are walking. Not the best for indirect, compared to something like the grocery store where you tactically position yourself so that a hot chick stops beside you and starts looking through potatoes, then you can start rambling about potatoes.

I'm going to try going direct , be commanding with my voice unless the situation just screams for an indirect approach, and try more 'cold reading' kind of stuff (ie. what you said about 'you seem miserable/hate your job)I'm hoping this will both 'polarize' the 'maybe' girls quickly and help to boost my confidence.

If her place is not an option during a date, and I am left to the following to attempt a first bang:

Escalating somewhere in public, late at night at a park, beach etc.

Having her come over for a drink, escalate... Still at parents house,

What do you guys think is best?

I'm comfortable doing it at home, just waiting till everyone asleep, but could this be an issue for her, I am not sure.

I feel at home would be a higher chance of a bang because of distractions, whereas if I tried to pull to the car I might be facing more LMR since she knows what's up from the start.

But I also feel at home could be an issue due to her being more self conscious to my family's presence.. Correct me if I am making a bad assumption.

What is your 2c?

Nasc do it in the car

Less resistance too because you start out just making out

1) Make out in car, pretty easy if she is DTF
2) A park in summertime under a tree is not bad either. 'It just happened!' she'll tell all her BFFs.

Got a couple of phone numbers off OkCupid today. New notch: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-11951-...#pid522050

On my way home at 5am from the tonight's bang, on the subway, and this girl gets come to my platform from the other side. The train comes, we get in, and she's looking at the map.

I say "where are you trying to go"

She explains that she's coming from somebody's house that she had trouble sleeping at (TMI for a stranger you slut!), and was trying to go the opposite direction that our train was moving in.

I said "I've got some bad news for you," and pointed out and explained that we were going away from her stop.

She said she knew that and had moved to my platform because there was a "creepy" guy on the other side.

Long story short, we get out, I get her number. Score one for the pipeline.

I think of my pipeline like that big life-giving tree in avatar.


Soup's pipeline:

Got a couple of phone numbers off OkCupid today. New notch: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-11951-...#pid522050

On my way home at 5am from the tonight's bang, on the subway, and this girl gets come to my platform from the other side. The train comes, we get in, and she's looking at the map.

I say "where are you trying to go"

She explains that she's coming from somebody's house that she had trouble sleeping at (TMI for a stranger you slut!), and was trying to go the opposite direction that our train was moving in.

I said "I've got some bad news for you," and pointed out and explained that we were going away from her stop.

She said she knew that and had moved to my platform because there was a "creepy" guy on the other side.

Long story short, we get out, I get her number. Score one for the pipeline.

I think of my pipeline like that big life-giving tree in avatar.


Soup's pipeline:

(07-15-2013 12:36 AM)kosko Wrote:  Kosko chronicles

Should of went for the friend....

Solid write up. Respect.
It didn't come together but the game was played to the total end like a champ.

What's a good response to being asked "what are you looking for on here?" on okcupid?

(08-28-2013 09:50 AM)kickboxer Wrote:  What's a good response to being asked "what are you looking for on here?" on okcupid?

If I was messaging with a girl, I'd have already told her that she seems like she'd be fun to hang with, then I'd cut her off and tell her "Hey, I don't check on here a lot but we can text and play it by ear" or something like that.

If it's with a girl in person I tell her that "It's easy to meet people anywhere" and that I'm on there "for fun" or "because I'm curious to see what kind of people exist outside of my social group".

So far I've been telling them that "I'm just looking for something low key right now. If we decide we can actually stand each others presence, we can take it from there"

I bluntly say in my profile that I have very little free time and my world is not going to revolve around them. I'm hoping to pull that card in case she wants to get too serious.

But I don't mind mini-relationships. I strive to develop a situation of nurturing long term fuck buddies where we can care for each other and show genuine emotions while at the same time being aware that it is never going to turn into anything more.