Post: #751

(06-28-2013 01:59 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Also, I'm not claiming that I have great game. I don't.

I'm just claiming that UCLA, USC, LMU, and Long Beach State are untapped markets that LA guys should consider tapping into.

Especially since most people are unhappy with the LA nightlife.

Gio you do have great game. There is no question. What you do is achievable, but it takes time, effort, and perseverance to get the body language and vibe right. I hope people understand that it is not what Gio says that matters. It is his demeanor, bearing, and non-verbal communication. The average dude could say any of the approaches verbatim and utterly fail (I am also in this camp now).

As we both know this is not a 2-week project. Depending on where guys are, it is a multi month or multi year project. Anyway, I think Gio's point is to get guys to really open their minds and see the pussy that surrounds you. Even in DC you see decent looking girls all the time, especially during the day. They are accessible if you have the ability.

I've spoken to some guys on the phone about this, and I see number of lifestyle (i.e. not talking about trips to foreign countries of less than 1 month duration) archetypes on the forum:

1. Gio style: efficient daytime approaching; taking some time to do it methodically but mostly to be opportunistic and hit up girls; have regular job but reduced hours

2. G-manifesto style: all about the night; high end venues, style (but also with a regular job AFAIK)

3. Roosh: income is location independent; great opportunity to sample foreign women for prolonged periods, so logistics are in principle very flexible; not going to be driving a Mercedes however; day and night but night appears to be favored

4. e-mech: actually I think very close to Gio, but more diabolical, and kind of spider-and-fly approach due to having a young child

5. scotian: work hard/play hard lifestyle of the petroleum industry; long stretches of no pussy or time, followed by flexibility to be anywhere and hitting up foreign girls

Hope guys will correct me if I have mischaracterized anything.

I'm sure there are others. Guys just have to look at their lifestyle and adapt an appropriate strategy (or combination of strategies). I'm partial to what Gio does, because I do not have the desire or stamina to go out at night like G does or some of the other guys. Also I have a regular corporate-type job (which is thankfully in the heart of the city, so tons of people around). To each their own.

Post: #752

(06-28-2013 02:32 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  Because I'm comfortable and not as sex-crazed as some guys here.

This is an excellent point worth repeating. I mean sometimes I feel like if I'm not doing everything I can at every single moment to maximize my chances of banging a chick that I'm failing. This is especially true on trips.

Post: #753

Post: #754

(06-28-2013 02:32 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  Well, check this out: she emailed our sales director thanking her for a great night, the food, cocktails, etc. They exchanged a few emails, my name came up, and this girl said I was cute, and I quote: (this is verbatim from the email, I took a pic from the sale's directors computer)

"...it was hilarious because we were just talking about the lack of initiation and etiquette with socal guys, and then this one comes in and pretty much proved us wrong."

That's referring to me. And she didn't reply to my text. Seems a bit ironic, acknowledging that I initiated and had etiquette with her, and she on the other hand...

Anyway, I'll send a restart text in a week but just another number in the pile...

Something similar happened to me last week. At this point I've given up even attempting to understand female behavior. It defies all reason and any attempt to unravel it will be fruitless and leave you with a headache. Los Angeles has a major flake problem and it's just something we have to live with here. I'm guessing it stems from the abundance mentality women have here. An 8 here has ENDLESS options and any one guy she meets is insignificant unless he really wows her. I think it's also that we have lots of ambitious career women who pride themselves in being busier than bees.

Post: #755

I forgot to mention, earlier in the email she asked our sales director, "What's the scoop with that one?" referring to me. What's the scoop? I don't even know what that means, but I'm assuming wondering if I have a gf, if I'm a psycho, if I'm an asshole...not sure. All I can postulate is I didn't trigger her fun, spontaneous side that would want to fuck me asap. If she's wondering "what the scoop" is about me, I probably piqued some interest that would lead to her thinking bf material down the line. I think this happens too often with me. Or maybe she's just a good girl. Who knows.

Post: #756

These are some really good posts all around.

I think we gravitate towards what works for us and what our situations are.

I think I am a little of a unique case, when I was younger I was very Day Game heavy. Street Game. Beach Game. That was my move. (Along with house party Game, something that has almost vanished by The Police State).

However, my "Game" is an evolution of years of practice and execution.

What I do now is a culmination of swooping since a teen.

For instance, I used to swoop girls in a T-shirt and board shorts. Now I roll Custom Suits. I have just learned over time that it is more effective.

Day Game can never match Night Game in my opinion when done at the highest levels.

So I focus my efforts in Night Game.

LA and Southern California was actually great for me as a kid. Sure, The Police State wasn't as bad, but I was pretty Day Game heavy, so it worked.

As I have graduated past that, I have graduated past LA and Southern California.

So I moved.

Not to mention, no state taxes and a 3 hour flight to South America or Montreal.

Not a bad trade off.

Post: #757

Guys,

Sorry to say this, but some of you are simply not willing to put an extra effort and moaning about it..

Look, you are in LA, its not Bangkok or Ukraine.. THIS IS LA.. So you can't keep comparing it with other places where you can pick up girl easily..

Now, you have 2 options here..

1:- Leave LA and go some where else (where you think it will be easy to pick up chicks)
2:- Stay in LA and DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET LAID..

Me, I am going for the second options, because I am coming to LA for business, so I have no choice but to stay here.. Since I will be staying here, I am definitely not going to be using my right hand every night...

So, I have made several plans.. (moaning and bitching is definitely not in the plan)...

a) Go hard on online game and get dates from there (I have already got about 3-4 dates lined up in last 3 days.. and still got over a month left before I am in LA, so I can easily fill those 7 days in LA with 14 dates..)
b) Day game and night game.. I can only do it when I am in LA..
c) Build up a social circle of guys and girls.. (this takes time, but once you have a social circle then things get real easy, think of it as long term plan)...

Now, let me describe all of those in more details..

a) ONLINE GAME Well, there is nothing much to say about it.. Just have a nice profile (including some nice pic, try to get a professional photographer to take some photos of you, indoor and outdoor) and then develop some unique and interesting opening emails.. Wallah.. you are 50% done.. Then keep sending them to girls that you like then when they reply then start to transition smoothly, build up comfort (really important), sexually escalate (this is a must, otherwise getting quick lays when you guys meet up will be difficult), do video conference on Skype (again this prevents flakes and both of you know how you guys look like).. Then the final part is meet up and just close…

If you guys are travelling from one place to another then online game will help you big time... I was in Bangkok for 3 days and in those 3 days I had 2 dates out of online game and I set those dates up in less than 48 hours... So, develop a tight online game (well, just have an extra ordinary profile and get some really nice and interesting photos of you) and you will be getting laid where ever you go, guaranteed..

Also, you just create the profile once and then you can use that on various dating site.. I spent almost 2 days writing up my profile, selecting the best pictures from my collections and then doing some editing (eg, making some black and white and using other colours, it makes your pictures stand out).. And it paid huge dividend over last 2 years..

2) Day game and night game.. Well, this is the bread and butter of getting laid.. This is how we all do things.. Now obviously I can't explain a lot about day game and night game as its huge topic, but some pointers are:-

DAY GAME, it will be less energy and you can't escalate hard and fast like night game.. Also, very slim chances of getting same day lay.. But you can set up the date later on and close her then.. You will be talking a lot and you will escalate thing verbally and build comfort, so you have to have fairly tight conversation skills (this is when you will struggle if you game a girl who can't speak english)..

Also, day game is when you have the highest chance of closing 9's and 10's, because their bitch shield is down, she is on her own, she is not drunk, she can hear you properly, she didn't get hit on by 10 drunk guys before you who has pissed her off and turned her mode off, you have no competition from guys etc..

NIGHT GAME.. This is usually high energy.. you can escalate hard, you can even get laid within 5 min (happened to me about twice in last 7 years) as some girls are drunk and horny and wants to fuck, so you take her out to the car or in the toilet.. But in clubs girls will be drinking, so they will get horny hence you have the best chance of same night lay.. This is perfect for majority of you as you guys are in the city for short time..

However, you will also find 100's of guys trying to chat her up, plus she will have friends and some of them might cock block you.. Also if you are in high end club then hot girls are usually in a table with their social circle.. If they have their own social circle then you will be struggling big time to extract her off.. Some girls doesn't seems interested to chat to guys out side her social circle as well, specially the really hot ones.. So getting the 9's and 10's in clubs become difficult..

Some times, you will find clubs where girls doesn't goes out with their social circle or doesn't have a close knit social circle, this is when you have the best chance of getting the 9's and 10's..

In London, we pretty much went all over, from north to east, west to south and after checking all the clubs out we realised there are some clubs where girls doesn't goes out in large close knit social circle eg Proud in camden town, Inferno in Clapham etc, So we used to go there and our close rate sky rocketed straight away..

So for clubs, you will have to go and find out the dynamics first, otherwise you will be putting in effort but the return will be really low.. For example, if you are single guy or a guy with another wingman and not going to get a table or doesn't have girls, then you guys will be struggling big time in clubs like Jalouse, Movida etc.. Why? Because majority of the clubs got tables and most of the girls are sitting in the table (which is blocked off by red ropes with bouncer on either side), some times they will come out, but then they will eventually go back in and your interaction will end.. So can you see how everything is pretty much stacked against you in those clubs?

Now, if you want to get those 9's and 10's from any clubs, then you will have to do the Social circle game…

c:- SOCIAL CIRCLE GAME.. Now, this is how all the top players are getting hot girls with minimal effort.. They do it in London, majority of them don't even go to clubs, they have big apartment and they throw the party in their apartment, every one comes, they just take the girls to their bed room, then in 30 min they are back out again.. its simply brilliant…

One of the top music producer (he worked with top artist) invited me to one of his party (he was one of my business client, I didn't know who he was until he invited me to his party), and then my eyes opened up.. According to him "man, going to girls to pick up girls is like going to office every from 9 to 5, who wants that, you should be earning morning without going to office all the time, so you should bring the club to your home"

And yes, it was really true.. He hardly ever goes to clubs, every weekend he has parties in his pad, the existing social circle keeps bringing in more people and he gets fresh girls almost every week..

Now, if you don't have a pad or if none of your friend got a party pad then you can go to clubs, get a table (if you have got lots of girls then you can get the table for free), girls will get free drinks, you have table full of girl and only 2-3 of you guys, other girls from other tables sees this and your value goes up, so when you open them they are all over you, you merge your group with their social group and then your group gets even bigger..

So you can see how social circle game works.. We used to do that and it was really awesome.. Obviously there are more to mention about social circle game and I can write them as well, but it will be about 20 pages long… so will leave it for another day..

Now.. since I am new to LA, what am I planning to do? Here's what I am doing and some of you might follow the same route as well..

1:- I am already getting some dates from online game.. ok they are not 9's or 10's, they are around 7's and some 8's but the bottom line is, I am getting the ball rolling even before landing in LA.. within 24 hours of landing in LA I will have date and very high chance of getting laid..

2:- I will do day game and night game, but I would prefer to do with some wings.. When I was in Bangkok I went out with Scotian, both of us took girls back.. it was fun, both of us enjoyed the night.. So I am looking to get some guys out… IF ANY OF YOU ARE IN LA THEN LETS MEET UP AND WE CAN DO THE DAY GAME AND NIGHT GAME TOGETHER.. It's much better than going solo, plus at night time most girls will have a friend or more.. so having a wingman really helps you to extract the girls…. So, from day and night game I am expecting to get some results..

3:- Build up a social circle.. This is for long term game.. As I don't want to be running around the street or clubs all the time.. Once I have couple of social circles then I will have access to hot girls and closing them will be really easy..

Right now I am working on 2 social circle..

1:- This group of people is coming from a business forum where i usually post.. In there I have a guy who works for a hollywood producer, one lawyer, one sales man etc.. So you can see the varieties of guys that will be in that social circle and when I provide value to them (by either introducing them to some one who can be their client or helping them with their business as I have lots of business connections) they will also provide value to me and introduce me to their social circle as well.. It will just have a snowball effect..

2:- This group of people will come from this forum and other PUA forum from Los angeles.. The sole purpose of this club will be going out, partying, getting laid, building social circle of girls, so we will have 40-50 girls each and then we can all go out in clubs or to our apartments (I am certainly getting a fairly decent sized apartments to hold parties)… So if there are about 4-5 of us who have decent game and can make friends with quite a few girls then we are ready to take it to the next level.. We will go to clubs, have the girls in the table and then merge with others and it will keep growing.. Done that in London with great success..

SO IF ANY OF YOU ARE BASED IN LA THEN PM ME, I WILL ORGANISE A MEET UP, WE CAN ALL GO OUT, PARTY AND MAKE SOME PLANS FOR SOCIAL CIRCLE GAME.. IN 2-3 MONTHS WE WILL BE HOSTING OUR OWN PARTIES IN CLUBS.. AND THEN CLUB MANAGERS WILL BE CALLING US TO HOST IN THEIR CLUBS..

WE WERE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CLUB PROMOTERS IN LONDON AND USED TO DO 2-3 DIFFERENT CLUBS A NIGHT.. SAME CAN BE DONE HERE, WE JUST NEED COUPLE OF DECENT GUYS WHO CAN OPEN GIRLS TO GET THE BALL ROLLING..

Post: #758

@dude3737- send her a picture of a dope wine/food. Caption-care to join?. Girls are visual creatures.

Post: #759

@Lovecharm- You sound like a good guy and I wouldn't mind meeting up and showing you around, but the truth is that your vision of LA is very gold-plated.

My boys who grew here in LA are promoting and its cut-throat. Unless you are bringing whales to the clubs or 50 models, you are basically a nobody. Nobody will even give a flying F about you. Promoters bringing 20-40 people are a dime a dozen.

Girls know that they can just go to the front of the line and cut everybody. Why would they need you? Tons of LA girls commute in for the night. Its not a steady group and theres limited metro (ala London)

What would work well is a fat mansion in Hollywood Hills. Offer the girls a place for afterparties and place to crash. This will get that promoter/event manager vibe rolling in the right direction

Post: #760

(06-28-2013 04:14 PM)DVY Wrote:  @Lovecharm- You sound like a good guy and I wouldn't mind meeting up and showing you around, but the truth is that your vision of LA is very gold-plated.

My boys who grew here in LA are promoting and its cut-throat. Unless you are bringing whales to the clubs or 50 models, you are basically a nobody. Nobody will even give a flying F about you. Promoters bringing 20-40 people are a dime a dozen.

Girls know that they can just go to the front of the line and cut everybody. Why would they need you? Tons of LA girls commute in for the night. Its not a steady group and theres limited metro (ala London)

What would work well is a fat mansion in Hollywood Hills. Offer the girls a place for afterparties and place to crash. This will get that promoter/event manager vibe rolling in the right direction

Dvy,

Ok will PM you and will organise things..

First of all, WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO MAKE MONEY BY PROMOTING.. We are just getting a social circle so that we can access the high end girls..

Our goals and vision is totally different..

As for why the girls will need us.. Well you answered your own question (I highlighted it).. so now its up to us to figure out how we can provide the place to crash and a place for after parties..

Trust me mate, its no different to London.. In London the tube (metro) closes at 12.30 or 1.. So no public transport at late night..

So yeah, lets get couple of guys on board first, we can discuss about this and then eventually find a way..

If we need bigger mansion or bigger apartment then 2-3 of us can become room mate and rent a massive place.. We have done it before..

First thing first, just need to get couple of hard working guys on board and then I will take care of the rest.. We have had several guys from London who came to LA and followed pretty much same method and doing pretty good.. So it can be done here as well...

LC

Post: #761

Just caught up with all 31 pages of this thread. I'm officially in this conversation.

Post: #762

Gio you can count me as 0.2 guys in LA doing tapping into UCLA. My results are too low to count as a full 1. I guess that brings the total to 0.2.

Post: #763

(06-28-2013 04:36 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Just caught up with all 31 pages of this thread. I'm officially in this conversation.

The Ride Home in Los Angeles when you actually do close a girl by 1:30 am on a Saturday:



The Ride Home in NYC at 2:30am on a Tuesday:



Just playing, Tuth.

Post: #764

I was actually thinking with so many RVFers in L.A. we should have more meetups. Count me in. I still haven't met McQueen but I know he was talking about this for a while...not sure how much he can get us a table/bottle for but my friend just quoted me $350 per bottle, might be able to go lower too. As I mentioned the venue is a shark tank (taking Neil there tonight) but very high talent.

Post: #765

(06-28-2013 06:16 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  I was actually thinking with so many RVFers in L.A. we should have more meetups. Count me in. I still haven't met McQueen but I know he was talking about this for a while...not sure how much he can get us a table/bottle for but my friend just quoted me $350 per bottle, might be able to go lower too. As I mentioned the venue is a shark tank (taking Neil there tonight) but very high talent.

I've met up with a lot of guys and am down to hang whenever.

Post: #766

(06-28-2013 06:01 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Just playing, Tuth.

We may have to resume our LA-NYC "Battle" in the other thread. I had some real top-shelf disses:

What You Need to Run Effective Game in Manhattan

Weekend Road Trip with Your Buddies to Swoop More Chicks - Los Angeles Edition

New York Fiction

The Ride Home in NY

Annoying Suburban Nightlife - Los Angeles Edition

Carousel Riders in Los Angeles

What $3,000/Month Gets You In Manhattan

The Bill in Manhattan

Post: #767

(06-28-2013 04:59 PM)Pacific Wrote:  Gio you can count me as 0.2 guys in LA doing tapping into UCLA. My results are too low to count as a full 1. I guess that brings the total to 0.2.

UCLA is very tappable.

Post: #768

I think everyone has hit on it. Game in LA, and probably everywhere, is going to be tailored to you. What do you got? What's your style? How much time do you have? Where do you live?

My game, it's a mix of classic night-game (but limited), day-game (more like, early-evening game, I live in a good place for this), social circle game (got to be careful though where you step), internet "game" (hardly game), and something new, "family setup game". This last one is interesting. As I get older, my extended family has started to bring girls to me more and more. It's cool. Most of my family knows that I am an unapologetic serial and parallel dater, so they do not have any notions about whats going on. If anything, they have been cheering me on.

Post: #769

(06-28-2013 01:59 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Also, I'm not claiming that I have great game. I don't.

I'm just claiming that UCLA, USC, LMU, and Long Beach State are untapped markets that LA guys should consider tapping into.

Especially since most people are unhappy with the LA nightlife.

I'm sure they are not entirely untapped.

Post: #770

(06-28-2013 02:51 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

West Coast is right, Gio is right, G is right...... we are all coming from different perspectives . A Player game is a product of his enviroment and his limitations, what I fail to undrstand is why do Players get locked in one mode Day or Night Game mode when they do not have any limitations.

West coast I am not talking about Noobs, Let me give you two polar opposites. Slubu , guy is Monster when it comes to Night Game. Zero Day game I think he is coming around though ........

Gio, Need i say guy is a beast during Day, Zero Night Game

and these are just the examples of guys I have met and personally seen their game not some keyboard players and not noobs in Game either.

Myself I have limitations that restrict me to day game most of the days but whenever I get a chance I am putting all in for a Night Game action also, Overall 80:20 between Day and Night game .I game whenever I get a chance, Early morning, mid-morning, brunch, Lunch, Gym, afternoon, grocery run, Out at bars, Lounges , clubs etc etc etc etc. 24/7 every chance I get ....

Agree with Gio, Day game is where it's at when going gets difficult in a town with Bad Night Game and G kinda admits Day Game in towns with Sucky Night Life.

Game on 24/7 brothers ........

Ha its more lifestyle design. Gio has more free time so he adjusted his life to day game. Slubu has an intense job so night game is where he has to put in his work.

This is another topic if slubu sees this "transitioning personalities" from work to game. This is another major issue with the game. EG: my personality is no where near the same outside of work as it is inside of work. At work I'm perceived as that "really intense guy" its just an act of course (I even do fake outbreaks of rage cussing outloud like typical people in my profession, it's literally just an act - perception is reality) but switching gears is simply not always that easy. It can be done don't get me wrong, the transition simply isn't smooth.

Anyway my point was really that comparing Gio to even above average dudes in LA is pretty laughable, the guy has been doing it for what sounds like 4-5 years hard. That is going to put you significantly above the average.

Post: #771

Well, took the Skywalker on a little tour last night. We went to the place my buddy manages and I gotta say, the talent was off the charts. I do not say that lightly as I've seen it all here. Taxi after taxi unloading loads of hot girls wearing skimpy dresses.

My friend came out and got us in and it's pretty mellow inside. After about an hour people really start packing in. I've got a few drinks in me so I make a few approaches on groups of girls. All the gripes I have about these broads just keeps getting worse. It seems like their circles have gotten even tighter. It's almost like they're huddling; you'd see 4 girls so tightly packed, forming an impenetrable wall of cockblock. A few times I'd tap one on the shoulder and start talking to her, get a good reception and rapport going, but then her group would move and she'd of course have to follow like a lost puppy. So stupid.

On another approach I pulled the whole, "You look familiar" line. Girl was receptive, more good rapport, she asks where I work, so I tell her and say she should come visit sometime. She mentions the fact that it's a private rooftop so I hand her my card and say, "Shoot me an email sometime and I'll get you in." She replies, "Oh yeah? You give your card to all the girls here?" (I'm thinking Jesus Christ, wtf is wrong with you, a guy can't even exploit his hookups anymore without a bitch throwing shit tests. She should be PSYCHED I'm getting her into the hotel) I tell her she's only the 10th girl to get my card that night with a smirk and she laughs and walks off.

At one point I was going through the dancefloor and caught one girls eye contact twice, she smiled so I went over with my usual bar/club approach, "You look like you want me to come over and talk to you." She says, "No no, I wasn't expecting you to come. You're just very handsome and I was enjoying looking at you." She had kind of a busted face but I needed something to keep my vibe going so I kept talking to her, and she kept insisting, "No no, you can keep doing what you're doing, I didn't mean to bother you I just wanted to look at you." WTF is this shit? I just laughed, gave her a kiss on the cheek and walked off.

Anyway it was finally good to meet the skywalker. He was showing me pics all night of his travels and bangs and the dude is legit, at least on the international stage. I think he might have a hard time with these westside L.A. broads

Even though our cover and drinks were free I don't think I can do that venue again. I was venting to my buddy and another manager there about how it's impossible to keep a girl's attention and they just told me, "We see it all night. We can't even get anywhere with them." The only option I could see is Slubu's last man standing game. Pick the drunkest and horniest sluts at last call and try to find one to hook onto.

Edit: Oh yeah I got some texts from the girl I met at my hotel. Plans to hang out next week. This might be the next era of my game. We do get some of the hottest girls I've ever seen at the hotel, and it's private so it's not swarmed with huge groups. Very conducive to conversation. We'll see what happens.

Post: #772

So do these girls come out with the hope they meet someone famous, or some casting director wants to have them as an extra? I mean it just defies reason. Maybe one of you should pretend to be some kind of social researcher and conduct a survey of these girls, asking them why they come, how they meet guys, etc.

Post: #773

After talking with a few of them, the common consensus seemed that it was just "the place to be". The HotSpot of the moment. Once again, it seemed like everyone knew everyone. Very tight circles. The girls I talked to where from everywhere from Santa Monica to Calabasas.

The only place I think girls are trying to meet someone famous or any of that shit is in West Hollywood clubs. That's where you see smoking hot girls being taken to VIP areas to meet celebs, athletes, etc. Any SBE club or places like Bootsy Bellows.

I'd say last night was the most I've ever name dropped or played up being "a man of position" i.e. mentioning we got in free and that I drink for free there, about where I work, etc. I don't think I did it in a douchy way either, I would just mention these things in passing. And the girls I was approaching weren't even the cream of the crop, mostly 6s and 7s, and got nowhere. Nothing was sticking.

It would be entertaining to take as many L.A. RVFers there as possible and see how everyone does. It'd be like watching army grunts running an obstacle course.

Post: #774

(06-29-2013 10:34 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  It's almost like they're huddling; you'd see 4 girls so tightly packed, forming an impenetrable wall of cockblock.

thedude3737, thanks for sharing about last night. I totally sympathize and I have nowhere the talents that you have. But when you you said they were so tightly packed, I just thought of this pic.

Post: #775

(06-29-2013 10:34 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  My friend came out and got us in and it's pretty mellow inside. After about an hour people really start packing in. I've got a few drinks in me so I make a few approaches on groups of girls. All the gripes I have about these broads just keeps getting worse. It seems like their circles have gotten even tighter. It's almost like they're huddling; you'd see 4 girls so tightly packed, forming an impenetrable wall of cockblock. A few times I'd tap one on the shoulder and start talking to her, get a good reception and rapport going, but then her group would move and she'd of course have to follow like a lost puppy. So stupid.

These clubs are straight-up traps. Whether you've paid cash for them or not, you're paying in other ways. I've virtually given up on the nightlife in general, but trendy clubs are a man's nightmare. The added dynamic in LA is that those top-shelf trendy clubs always have a certain percentage of industry aspirants hoping to make a connection. The rest are just typical American girls acting like social retards.

I went to an art opening in West Hollywood once. I saw all these hot girls just sitting around in random places. Anyone who approached them got a one- or two-word answer. I managed to get one laughing and chatting for a while, but got iced out not long after. Suddenly Dylan McDermott walked in with a group of people. The bored-looking hot girls suddenly all stood up, fluffed up their hair, pulled their short dresses down, clopped over in their prostitute heels, and tried to get in his vicinity. One girl, who had just left, turned around and came back in.

It was a disgusting sight.