Post: #876

(07-03-2013 04:13 PM)Love charm Wrote:  Guys,

Saw several nice flats in Downtown with awesome view (at 15th floor)..

I am tempted to get the flat, its really luxurious with rooftop pool and gym etc..

However, I was looking at the crime stats of down town :-http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Los_Angeles-California/crime/

Seems like literally in last 7 days there has been about 4 crimes in that road!!!

So I was wondering, is it really that bad? If I don't go out after 12 at night and only commute around morning then I will be fine?

Thanks.

LC

As long as you're somewhat street smart you'll be ok. Used to work on 5th and Spring in the Spring Arts tower, partied over there all the time, never had any problems.

Also once a month they have Artwalk which has all kinds of pussy walking around.

Post: #877

I've been thinking a bit about what I want to do when I get back to LA in September. I've pretty much lost all interest in going out at nights - maybe with friends but for gaming purposes I can't imagine doing it after spending the summer here in EE and Russia. Nonetheless I can't go celibate so I have to have some sort of setup.

How effective do you think a project hollywood type setup would actually be? Not in terms of going out and gaming and living with so called PUAs, but the idea of having a logistically located and higher end HOUSE with a few guys. Say as opposed to a studio apartment to myself. This would play a lot more into my SA angle too, at least I think.

I spend 1500 for a studio for myself, or get 2-3 guys at 1500 each to rent a very upscale house for 4500-6000/month.

Post: #878

Well I took Speakeasy to Buffalo Club. I'll let him give the breakdown of the venue.

It was hopeless. I'd love to see the cream of the crop of RVF in this place, maybe drag Fisto there while he's in town. We talked to a few girls but nothing really stuck.

As the valet is pulling my car up, I'm skipping songs on my CD player and turning it up, and there's a girl outside my window. Some guy says, "Let her in!" So I do and she's cute. A dumb, wasted, blonde chick, solid 7. She wants me to give her a ride. I'm a little thrilled at the situation but I play it cool and drive off. She wants a ride home. She hands me her phone while I'm driving and it's some dude giving me an address in Marina Del Rey. I immediately feel like a fucking putz. Whatever, I still play it cool, she tells me how she needs to repay me somehow and I'm agreeing while teasing and flirting nonstop. She asks me if I wrote the music that's play and tells me she loves house music. I lie and say yes, I composed it (It's Gui Borrato) and we talk about music, travel, etc. I pull up to the address the guy told me and she says it's not the right place. I start getting impatient, she starts repeating herself since she's wasted and starts calling other drunk friends. I talk to some drunk girl who gives me the same address, so I drive back there. By the time I pull up I'm pretty impatient and annoyed.

She leans in and hugs me, says I'm a great guy, gives me a kiss on the cheek. I tell her, "You're wrong, I'm not a great guy. And that was a shitty kiss." She leans back in and we make out for a little while before she gets out of the car. She's standing outside my car looking lost and clueless, it's clear she's blackout drunk and won't remember any of this. I'd gotten her number but I've got no hopes of seeing her again. She's standing outside my car, waiting for something to happen. I roll down my window and say, "You sure this is the place?" She nods and starts rifling through her purse for her phone.

Her phone is on the passenger seat. The whole thing sort of came together in my head: I just drove 30 min out of my way to drop this girl off at someone's house, maybe some dude, and got a shitty drunken makeout session from it. She won't remember me or meet up with me in the future. Just another drunk white bitch that's used to kindness from strangers and takes it for granted.

I roll up my window and put my car into reverse. Find Washington, take a right, left on Lincoln to the 10 East. On the freeway I roll down the window and throw her iPhone out onto the freeway. I'm a dick but it feels good. She was wrong about me being a good guy.

I check my phone and I've got 10 unreplied texts from my gf.

Sometimes I wish I was the type of guy that could be happy with one girl.

Post: #879

Reminds me of this video:

Post: #880

Hahaha, this girl wasn't nearly that bad. If she was I probably would have taken her home...

Post: #881

(07-20-2013 05:33 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  Hahaha, this girl wasn't nearly that bad. If she was I probably would have taken her home...

recipe for false rape charge. I've been meeting a lot of drunk women at night lately, it's crazy. I number close knowing it's going to be a flake because I'm hesistant of going for the SNL because of the potential false rape charge so I go for the number.

Post: #882

(07-20-2013 10:55 AM)NewGamer Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 05:33 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  Hahaha, this girl wasn't nearly that bad. If she was I probably would have taken her home...

recipe for false rape charge. I've been meeting a lot of drunk women at night lately, it's crazy. I number close knowing it's going to be a flake because I'm hesistant of going for the SNL because of the potential false rape charge so I go for the number.

Personally, I think that is way overly paranoid, but to each his own.

Post: #883

(07-20-2013 10:55 AM)NewGamer Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 05:33 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  Hahaha, this girl wasn't nearly that bad. If she was I probably would have taken her home...

recipe for false rape charge. I've been meeting a lot of drunk women at night lately, it's crazy. I number close knowing it's going to be a flake because I'm hesistant of going for the SNL because of the potential false rape charge so I go for the number.

If some drunk girl is saying, "Just take me home and fuck me" you better believe she's coming over. That's why you don't tell her your name and call her a cab immediately after you blow a load in her mouth.

If I can take responsibility for my drunken antics, so can she.

Post: #884

Good finally meeting thedude3737. He's a real cool guy.

Well now that the worse of my hangover is over, here is my take. My reaction to the Buffalo Club was like Neil's. I was pretty much overwhelmed. I have to say in all my life of going out in L.A. I have never seen as many hotties packed into one place. Now I'm not that big on blonde white girls, but one of the first things I said to thedude was where did all these blondes comes from in L.A.?? It was probably 95% white girls, a huge number of them tall and blonde, as well as a lot of good-looking tall guys. It was definitely a place still in Tier 1 mode. The talent level was off the fucking charts. It was what I'd picture a top level Ukrainian or Russian club to be like. An average girl there was an 8. With many being 9s, all in skirts and heels. Not one fatty or atrocious girl in the whole joint. Well that was the good. Now the bad...

The vibe was like a USC reunion party. Extremely cliquey. A lot of guys that look like they come from money who seem to know a lot of chics in there. People only seemed to be talking to people they already know. Wasn't seeing much mingling outside of their mixed sets. People were constantly in movement. Thedude pointed this out to me saying it's like river currents in here. Chics don't stand in one spot, they are constantly swimming about and being pulled one way or another by friends. They have small attention spans and trying to open girls that you don't know is almost pointless, they lose focus within a minute and go back to their social circle. We tried. There was this one girl who was a 5 maybe who seemed friendly. She had a couple cute friends and she gave me eye-contact, so I started talking with her. She was actually the friendliest girl in there and I made her start rapping. Then tried to get her to bring her friends over so we could meet them. Couldn't keep her cuter friend's attention for more than a minute. The hottest one wouldn't even look me the eye when I was talking to her. And it's not like I'm this ugly, poorly dressed guy either. I was like fuck this... So anyway after a few hours of this me and thedude decided to call it a night. It was close to closing time anyway so we kicked it out front to see what was coming out. I was gonna try and play Roosh's hail mary Iceland game. See if I can find some drunk girls stammering out and open them. Then that 5 I was talking to was standing there on her phone. Thedude then bounced. She was asking me if it's a better idea to take a taxi or use Uber to get home. I asked where she lived and she said Brentwood which is pretty much on the way home for me so I offered to drop her off. She was acting all flirty and touchy and grabbing my hand and stuff on ten minute the ride there. As we were pulling up to her apartment I was like, "I am way to buzzed to be driving". Then she said, "well then park and come up to my place." I'm thinking "Cool. She's only a 5 but I'm drunk, she's flirting and seems DTF, pussy is pussy." I had to piss really fucking bad so that was the first thing I did. When I came out I asked her for a little tour of her place which would hopefully end in her bedroom. She has two other roommates, neither of which where there, I think she mentioned that they were still back at the club or something. So when I was in her room, I tried to pull her in a few times so I could go for a makeout, but oddly she was pulling back and trying to keep a distance. Then she led me out of her room back to living room. Her room wasn't even an actual room, it was the dining room which has bookcase put in front of it to section it off, so when I realized that and that her friends were probably on their way back, I knew I wasn't about to get laid. She offered me her number and said her friends are blowing up her phone with texts asking where she was. And at that point she basically ushered me out the door.

That whole thing from leaving the club till leaving her place was all in about a span of 25 minutes. That shit was just weird. So both me and thedude got suckered into giving chics a free ride home in the hope of getting some pussy but came up empty-handed. Just another night in L.A.!

Post: #885

(07-20-2013 05:05 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  I roll up my window and put my car into reverse. Find Washington, take a right, left on Lincoln to the 10 East. On the freeway I roll down the window and throw her iPhone out onto the freeway. I'm a dick but it feels good. She was wrong about me being a good guy.

Thank you for this. 1000% my style. Although, if I was driving, I would have had a couple of drinks in me, and thus been super paranoid about driving around aimlessly. Really a horrible idea.

I've done really well with banging drunk girls in Santa Monica and the west side in general. It's probably the strongest part of my game, unfortunately. I've never thought twice about false rape charge. I would think the false rape charge wouldn't happen when a girl is banging a random stranger. Unless you did something violent or disgusting.

I'll jump on the bandwagon on giving girls a free ride home last night. Sort of.

I was on Main St. in Santa Monica (more on this in a sec). Cabs are somewhat tough to find at 1:45am, so I made friends quick with two girls that were going home. We all jumped in a cab together. I tried getting them over for my famous late night quesedillas, but no dice. I paid for the cab because they got out first. They were spotted about $6.00. One girl was from Vancouver, visiting her "BFF" (I f--cking hate that term). I got her number as she jumped out of the cab. I only live 14 blocks from them, so I'm trying to figure out a way for Vancouver girl to ditch the BFF. Radio silence at 2:30am. She's a short 7, in town for the weekend, and I'm cockblocked by her friend. Tough match for me this weekend. We'll see what happens.

This wasn't the first time I've jumped in cabs with two girls. A couple of times I've gone from Main St. to DTSM in a cab with two girls. If they weren't cool or didn't want to hang out. I would just get out of the cab and start walking away. I didn't even bother looking back as they were saying something bitchy to me.

Post: #886

Main St. Santa Monica last night.

I'm boycotting this place, with the exception of Areal for dinner and drinks. 90% of the girls I saw last night were fat. Lot's of trashy, flabby, Mexican girls, Tons of dudes (but that never phases me), and the bars all SUCK. Would it hurt to put $30,000 in repairs and maintenance in your place ever year? Everything down there is disgusting.

Finn McCools was fun, but an entire corner of the bar smelled like vomit. 3110 is a horrible place with a bad setup and 1 bathroom. Shabby. Even the sidewalks had trash all over and the garbage bins were full. That whole area needs a community group to step up and clean the place. It's a leftover wasteland. No wonder there were no cute girls there. It reminds you of a frat party scene. Areal is the only place down there that is nice looking, good drinks, good service.

The crowd will change once school is back in session in September. Until then, I'm done with it.

If you want a bunch of numbers, walk the streets from 1-2am, and hit up some food trucks. Good luck closing any 7-9's. Not happening. You'll end up with 4-5's with an extra 40lbs to deal with.

Post: #887

(07-20-2013 02:28 AM)slubu Wrote:  How effective do you think a project hollywood type setup would actually be? Not in terms of going out and gaming and living with so called PUAs, but the idea of having a logistically located and higher end HOUSE with a few guys. Say as opposed to a studio apartment to myself. This would play a lot more into my SA angle too, at least I think.

I did this in my younger years (in another US city, not LA), and it worked really well. Usually the idea behind a "group house" is each person can't afford to live on their own, so they pool their money and get a house, but the result is a crappy place. In my case, we were all professionals with real jobs who could afford our own place (like a studio apt) but pooling that kind of money together meant we got a really nice house. I think if you counted all the rooms, there were not only 5 bedrooms, but 5 "other" rooms (living room, dining room, den, etc) so that's the type of house we were in. Our neighbors were all families of course, but the lot sizes were substantial, so we only had to worry about noise when we had house parties.

The nice thing about this setup is there's always someone around to hang out with/be a wing. Also, we'd have house parties once every few months, and those were ragers, like 200+ people. It was an excellent way to develop a pipeline, and being the party host is pretty high up on the DHV scale (you can give "private tours" of the off-limits rooms, etc).

What I'd suggest is you make sure all your roommates are the type you can get along with, and are in a similar work/financial situation. I've seen group houses where you have one person working the night shift as a waiter, another working a day job where they have to be up by 6am, and another with questionable employment, and it just can lead to issues. In our case, since we all had decent jobs, there was no arguing over how everyone had to toss in $100 to buy drinks for our party, etc.

At one point we also had "groupies" at our place too. Basically everyone knew if you wanted to have fun on Friday night, come by our place since we'd be pre-gaming and then headed out somewhere. So we'd have cute chicks who were new in town (au pairs, job transfers, etc) come by on a pretty regular basis, once they found out about our place.

Post: #888

(07-20-2013 06:15 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  Main St. Santa Monica last night.

I'm boycotting this place, with the exception of Areal for dinner and drinks. 90% of the girls I saw last night were fat. Lot's of trashy, flabby, Mexican girls, Tons of dudes (but that never phases me), and the bars all SUCK. Would it hurt to put $30,000 in repairs and maintenance in your place ever year? Everything down there is disgusting.

Finn McCools was fun, but an entire corner of the bar smelled like vomit. 3110 is a horrible place with a bad setup and 1 bathroom. Shabby. Even the sidewalks had trash all over and the garbage bins were full. That whole area needs a community group to step up and clean the place. It's a leftover wasteland. No wonder there were no cute girls there. It reminds you of a frat party scene. Areal is the only place down there that is nice looking, good drinks, good service.

The crowd will change once school is back in session in September. Until then, I'm done with it.

If you want a bunch of numbers, walk the streets from 1-2am, and hit up some food trucks. Good luck closing any 7-9's. Not happening. You'll end up with 4-5's with an extra 40lbs to deal with.

Did you hit up the Victorian? That place usually holds some pretty good talent IMO.

Post: #889

USC eh? The fraternity I was in back in college is big in USC..at least it was back when I was in school. Also, I'm from another chapter so I'm probably now gonna know people there.

Since G isn't keen on LA, perhaps McQueen might be the go-to guy for this place.

Thanks to thedude and speakeasy for the detailed report on the place and props for hanging in there for several hours and enduring the rejections.

That said, I have several ideas to try to pull from this place. I don't want to post them in public. I'm planning to make it down there next month. I can try these moves then or if someone is interested just PM me. FYI, these ideas involve time & money so if you're looking for a 'pua' move, don't bother.

Post: #890

(07-21-2013 02:21 PM)Leo Wrote:  USC eh? The fraternity I was in back in college is big in USC..at least it was back when I was in school. Also, I'm from another chapter so I'm probably now gonna know people there.

Since G isn't keen on LA, perhaps McQueen might be the go-to guy for this place.

Thanks to thedude and speakeasy for the detailed report on the place and props for hanging in there for several hours and enduring the rejections.

That said, I have several ideas to try to pull from this place. I don't want to post them in public. I'm planning to make it down there next month. I can try these moves then or if someone is interested just PM me. FYI, these ideas involve time & money so if you're looking for a 'pua' move, don't bother.

If you end up killing it there, come back and drop a breakdown here. I don't think too many dudes are going to be able to walk out of there with an 8 or 9 that they didn't know when they went in. It's SUPER cliquey and women there don't really mingle long with guys they don't know.

If you want to do well in that place without rolling in with connections, then you better be tall, VERY good-looking, have caveman game at the expert level, approach relentlessly and be extremely adept at disarming cockblockers. If you don't have those baseline attributes, I can't see a dude pulling quality from there on any consistent basis. You'll also need logistics. Forget taking any numbers from these girls, you'll never hear from them again. If you aren't pulling them out while they're drunk and fucking within the hour, you can forget it. So you or her better live within 20 minutes drive of the joint.

Good luck!

Post: #891

What a night...

Met up w Fisto at Roger Room after work just expecting to grab a beer and keep it a low key night. Pretty much immediately start gaming a couple girls at the bar. If I recall correctly Fisto picked up this kinda big black girl (as in literally picked her up), see him pull this move a lot and it works well. Leaves girls completely flustered and laughing. Anyway she's with a pretty cute Armenian chick. I couldn't tell who was gonna wind up with who but after 15 minutes I must have said something right because the black chick is looking at me like she's in love. We make out and she's an incredible kisser, one of the best actually and I start imagining her mouth on my cock and get a raging hardon. If I was out to get laid I should have just taken her home right then and there, but whatever, she was a 6 at best and the night was young.

They leave, we talk to a few more girls. There's a couple and one's a cute asian, we kind of hit it off, I mention I'm a chef (this works extremely well on asian girls) and things are going good, when 10 minutes in I hear Fisto belt out, "I CANT TAKE IT THIS GIRL HAS NO FUCKING SOCIAL SKILLS WHATSOEVER" referring to his girl. They don't take too kindly, there's some arguing, and they walk off. I'm facepalming and laughing my ass off. She did seem genuinely retarded and/or mute.

We head up to Greystone. I'm wearing my work clothes so I know I've got no chance but Fisto's yelling at the promoter trying to make something happen. Too bad there was some ridiculous talent coming and going...I definitely need a regular connection there. We give up and bounce.

It's 1AM so we decide to grab some thai as there's usually hot asian girls at Ruen Pair in Thai Town late on the weekends. We get there and it's pretty dead, so we head to Harvard and Stone. Within 10 seconds Fisto pulls some girl from her group and is on her, and some dude doesn't take too kindly. I turn my head for a split second and when I look back I see Fisto grabbing this guy's face with this palm. I clench my fists and walk over praying to god that one of these faggot hipster throws a punch but another guy in the group defuses things pretty well.

We walk to the back bar and spit game at anything with a pussy. Pounding drinks. I'm hitting on some girl with big tits but she's the bartenders wife. Fisto meets some promoter that gets us free shots. About 20 min later security has some beef with Fisto and we gotta leave.

We head back to Ruen Pair and these two busted Indonesian/Korean/FOB bitches sit down next to us, a couple 5s but they might as well be 9s based on their attitude. Not having anything we're telling them. Grab some noodles, some chicken over rice, and leave. We decide that Skywalker has to be a part of this night for some reason and make a mission of finding him. He's at Eden trying to hook up with "chocolate honeys" as he puts it, and it's good to see Fisto and Skywalker shake hands in person.

We walk down Hollywood Blvd, hollering at random girls. At one point there's an absolute beast of a black girl, my height plus 100 lb. As I'm walking by her I give her the elevator gaze and say, "Gad DAMN." She says, "ExCUSSSEEE ME?!" I keep walking, see we've lost Fisto, so I turn around and he's picking this behemoth up and she's squealing like a schoolgirl and there's a crowd laughing at the scene. It's nonstop with this guy.

We find some fucking WEIRD afterparty...it's 3am and it's just a small room a couple flight up some building on Hollywood. It's all dudes besides a cute bartender. Good DJ, but it's empty. They tell us that it'll fill up, so we wait 15-20 minutes and more guys show up, some really strung out, weird, gay looking mofos.

We bounce and head to Avalon. More haggling with the bouncer. McQueen shows up with a hot asian girl and of course walks right in, talks to the bouncer and gets us a discounted rate. It's still $25 to get in, we decide fuckit, and immediately regret it as the ratio and talent is fucking awful. I'm sure McQueen was in the VIP back room where the hotties were (I used to have a hookup there but no more) but the main dance room was terrible. Fisto got into some antics that I won't repeat here.

We bounce and head to a strip club. Lots of "chocolate honeys", some pretty amazing ass walking around actually, but no shot at shoring. It's just too busy for these working girls. Skywalker gets a lapdance and we bounce.

I must have been pretty hammered when I drove home at 5:30AM, because when I got to my car this morning there was a tow truck getting ready to hook me on. I ran up and started yelling at them saying "I GOT IT I GOT IT." Half the neighborhood was out there watching. I had parked completely blocking someone's driveway and they were pretty livid. I said, "Sorry, my bad. I apologize. Got a little carried away last night."

Fun night, but goddamn it was awful gaming.

Post: #892

(07-20-2013 06:15 PM)CaP7 Wrote:  Main St. Santa Monica last night.

I'm boycotting this place, with the exception of Areal for dinner and drinks. 90% of the girls I saw last night were fat. Lot's of trashy, flabby, Mexican girls, Tons of dudes (but that never phases me), and the bars all SUCK. Would it hurt to put $30,000 in repairs and maintenance in your place ever year? Everything down there is disgusting.

Finn McCools was fun, but an entire corner of the bar smelled like vomit. 3110 is a horrible place with a bad setup and 1 bathroom. Shabby. Even the sidewalks had trash all over and the garbage bins were full. That whole area needs a community group to step up and clean the place. It's a leftover wasteland. No wonder there were no cute girls there. It reminds you of a frat party scene. Areal is the only place down there that is nice looking, good drinks, good service.

Yup, Main Street has been terrible for several months. I've been there on multiple occasions with other forum members and no one pulled, or what they pulled was mediocre.

Victorian and Basement Tavern have talent, but those girls are insular cliquish snobs. If you didn't go to Crossroads, good luck with that.

The only time Main St. is good is on special nights like Halloween and when there's a pub crawl beforehand.

Post: #893

^^^ Damn. Skywalker needs to edit this into his movie. That was like the whole L.A. RVF cast in one night, lol.

Post: #894

(07-21-2013 02:58 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 02:21 PM)Leo Wrote:  USC eh? The fraternity I was in back in college is big in USC..at least it was back when I was in school. Also, I'm from another chapter so I'm probably now gonna know people there.

Since G isn't keen on LA, perhaps McQueen might be the go-to guy for this place.

Thanks to thedude and speakeasy for the detailed report on the place and props for hanging in there for several hours and enduring the rejections.

That said, I have several ideas to try to pull from this place. I don't want to post them in public. I'm planning to make it down there next month. I can try these moves then or if someone is interested just PM me. FYI, these ideas involve time & money so if you're looking for a 'pua' move, don't bother.

If you end up killing it there, come back and drop a breakdown here. I don't think too many dudes are going to be able to walk out of there with an 8 or 9 that they didn't know when they went in. It's SUPER cliquey and women there don't really mingle long with guys they don't know.

If you want to do well in that place without rolling in with connections, then you better be tall, VERY good-looking, have caveman game at the expert level, approach relentlessly and be extremely adept at disarming cockblockers. If you don't have those baseline attributes, I can't see a dude pulling quality from there on any consistent basis. You'll also need logistics. Forget taking any numbers from these girls, you'll never hear from them again. If you aren't pulling them out while they're drunk and fucking within the hour, you can forget it. So you or her better live within 20 minutes drive of the joint.

Good luck!

I might contact a couple of you guys when I get in town. Might be more fun to roll up to this place with a crew or at least a wing.

I do have a question (that might be best answered by thedude since he's been there several times): did you see any guys actually pulling from the place? By that I mean guys who weren't in their social circle to begin with? Like gaming as a random guy? Right now I'm assuming that you saw tall, VERY good-looking guys getting the most love/attention at this place.

Also, I'm a bit confused by a couple of things you mentioned: you say that the girls stick to their circles but you also say that the girls move around a lot. Are a lot of these girls part of several circles?

Post: #895

(07-21-2013 03:47 PM)Leo Wrote:  I do have a question (that might be best answered by thedude since he's been there several times): did you see any guys actually pulling from the place? By that I mean guys who weren't in their social circle to begin with? Like gaming as a random guy? Right now I'm assuming that you saw tall, VERY good-looking guys getting the most love/attention at this place.

One of the things me and 3737 mentioned is that we weren't seeing random dudes successfully pulling. I was observing what was going on and there just wasn't much mingling with people they didn't know. That's why I was saying it felt like some sort of cliquey USC party where if you're an outsider people have no desire to socialize with you.

Quote:Also, I'm a bit confused by a couple of things you mentioned: you say that the girls stick to their circles but you also say that the girls move around a lot. Are a lot of these girls part of several circles?

You see a ton of the "girl chain" thing. Girls locked arms 3 or 4 deep with the alpha/cockblocker girl leading the way to a different part of the club. All of them chained by arm so no guys can try and pick one off. And this was constant. Another thing was the closed posturing of the girls. Observing the room, most the girls were turned inward toward each other when talking. Which means their backs are turned toward everyone and makes them a closed off circle. Whereas two guys on the prowl will have open posturing, meaning their back is to the bar and they are facing the action looking outward. When I'm looking for targets, I try to find girls with an open posture, i.e. not huddled inward on each other seemingly oblivious to the environment.

I'm rooting for a solid forum member to crack that place.

Post: #896

I was telling fisto that if i took him there he'd most likely get into a fight. While his insane caveman moves would work well, odds of some pissed off dude or chick wanting to start shit would be sky high.

Post: #897

(07-21-2013 03:47 PM)Leo Wrote:  I might contact a couple of you guys when I get in town. Might be more fun to roll up to this place with a crew or at least a wing.

I do have a question (that might be best answered by thedude since he's been there several times): did you see any guys actually pulling from the place? By that I mean guys who weren't in their social circle to begin with? Like gaming as a random guy? Right now I'm assuming that you saw tall, VERY good-looking guys getting the most love/attention at this place.

Prob best to roll with me. The venue turns away hot girls, that's how crowded it gets and super tight door. If you're rolling solo or with just dudes forget about it. If we get a crew we should buy a bottle out of respect to my friend, it makes him look bad if I bring 3 dudes in there and don't drop the cash. Otherwise just me and you. Hit me up when you want to go...I'm kind of burning out on these nights but I'll do a few more runs and make an effort.

I've wondered about exactly what you wrote. I was telling speakeasy, "I would love to be able to see how SNLs go down here, everything from the initial approach to the drive home." I was talking to the other floor manager as we left and telling him about our dilemma and he told me, "There's no guys coming in here and pulling girls out of here. Your best bet is to be a complete asshole and rich." Straight out of the manager's mouth.

Post: #898

(07-21-2013 06:05 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  The venue turns away hot girls, that's how crowded it gets and super tight door.

Forgot to mention that. First place I've ever been where 8s and 9s were getting turned away at the door!

Post: #899

(07-21-2013 03:55 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 03:47 PM)Leo Wrote:  I do have a question (that might be best answered by thedude since he's been there several times): did you see any guys actually pulling from the place? By that I mean guys who weren't in their social circle to begin with? Like gaming as a random guy? Right now I'm assuming that you saw tall, VERY good-looking guys getting the most love/attention at this place.

One of the things me and 3737 mentioned is that we weren't seeing random dudes successfully pulling. I was observing what was going on and there just wasn't much mingling with people they didn't know. That's why I was saying it felt like some sort of cliquey USC party where if you're an outsider people have no desire to socialize with you.

Quote:Also, I'm a bit confused by a couple of things you mentioned: you say that the girls stick to their circles but you also say that the girls move around a lot. Are a lot of these girls part of several circles?

You see a ton of the "girl chain" thing. Girls locked arms 3 or 4 deep with the alpha/cockblocker girl leading the way to a different part of the club. All of them chained by arm so no guys can try and pick one off. And this was constant. Another thing was the closed posturing of the girls. Observing the room, most the girls were turned inward toward each other when talking. Which means their backs are turned toward everyone and makes them a closed off circle. Whereas two guys on the prowl will have open posturing, meaning their back is to the bar and they are facing the action looking outward. When I'm looking for targets, I try to find girls with an open posture, i.e. not huddled inward on each other seemingly oblivious to the environment.

I'm rooting for a solid forum member to crack that place.

That does sound like a tough scene/environment for random approaches. I remember when we would do mixers with sororities at a restaurant, we'd be pretty much focused in our circle. That rule was not only implied but stated. We all dropped money for both groups to meet/mix and get to know each other and it was a big diss to everyone to flirt or interact with an outsider. This attitude may carry on outside of school.

What age range are these girls? College or recent grads? If so, I'll serously consider contacting the USC and UCLA chapters of my fraternity and see if I can get an in on this place from that angle. Fraternities are pretty cool with alum and I'm from a well known chapter from a big party school so we'll see.

Post: #900

In general, the best bars for pickup are not places where there's one player taking a girl home - it's where there are several girls getting sloppy and making out with random guys. Don't assume you'll be the exception. So many places in LA I'll walk into, and I can tell within seconds that no guy is getting his dick wet with strange at that spot. If you go to a spot with talent that you can't get at, you might as well go to a strip club.