Did some reading through the thread. So would you guys recommend DTLA for a week stay during the winter (December or January)?

I'm looking for a spot with nightlife that's local. Has a younger crowd (18-25 or so) and has decent logistics.

Based off what I read it seems DTLA is the new emerging spot? Where else in LA could offer me that same vibe I just described ?

What are some of the better clubs for three good looking white guys in their late 20s?

Are there after-hours parties in LA like in SF? (underground clubs that serve alcohol until 6am?)

We got a weekend in LA coming up and want to make it count, none of us have any idea what clubs are hip right now. Thanks guys.

edit: we have car and one of my friends doesn't drink, so we can bounce around. Going to be there Friday/Sat night.

A question on style too... what attire is required to get into clubs in LA? In SF I typically roll with a v-neck, dark fitted jeans, and a black leather jacket.

Hey everyone,

I'm going to be in L.A. from Oct. 14-16 (Friday through Sunday) to attend the West Coast premiere of Cassie Jaye's and Mike Cernovich's film The Red Pill, a documentary on the men's rights' movement and the manosphere. I'm basically going to be in town long enough to see the movie, have a meetup and leave. More info about the movie here:

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/10/04/...ie-review/

Anyone want to attend the movie with me and/or have a meetup on the 14th or 15th? The film is debuting at Laemmle Noho 7 Theater on the 14th (Friday). The exact time hasn't been revealed yet and tickets go on sale on Tuesday; get 'em here:

http://www.laemmle.com/films/41219

I have zero familiarity with L.A. (I've only been there once, on a layover to Tokyo) so someone else would have to suggest a meetup location.

Also, anyone willing to let me crash on their couch while I'm in town? My plane ticket was comped by a reader, which is why I'm even going in the first place. Otherwise, I'll stay at a hostel or Airbnb.

Anyone know any spots that are alive on weeknights + Sunday nights? I really like Saddle Rach House but that bar, like all the damn others, are dead outside of Friday and Saturday nights in LA.

(10-24-2015 08:38 PM)TheBMan Wrote:  I just got back from visiting friends in LA (Santa Monica) and I cant believe how ridiculously expensive it is out there. I come from the DC area, where its not cheap, but LA is just insane.

DC is actually more expensive than LA on average.

https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-livin...th-america

But I believe Santa Monica is the most expensive neighborhood/town in LA County. If you go to the San Fernando Valley, it gets considerably cheaper.

(08-02-2015 04:33 PM)betaplusplus Wrote:  Some of you are reading too much between the lines. In my original post, I stated why I'm considering moving to LA: " I want to go to LA because I've always wanted to experience the weather, the West Coast, a proper tier-1 city, and the ladies." Yes, so ladies is a part of the reason - remember, I'm in DC now - but the 3 other factors are equally important to me. Obviously we're concentrating on the last factor since that's the focus of this forum but don't assume that is not the sole factor for my move.

Perhaps this will help. I'm saying this:
Guys, I'm thinking of moving to LA. Do you think I'll do better with the girls there than in DC given my stats even tho I'll make less in LA than what I currently make in DC?

Some of you seem to be reading it this way:
Guys, I'm getting no poosy in DC and think LA will solve that problem. I make lots of money and will drive a flashy car. Do you think the girls will throw themselves at me?

With that said, I've got lots of great feedback and constructive criticisms here and the responses are getting to the point of diminishing returns. You're certainly free to continue to respond to my original (and subsequent) posts but I will probably not read them. If you have something critical you'd like to share please PM me as some posters here have done.

@fucksong

Yep, been to most of those countries. The countries I've been to that are mentioned here often are: Ukraine, Romania, Hungary, Japan, China, Korea, Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Brazil, Colombia, and a few others. I've also read tons of datasheets regarding those countries. Believe me, I've thought about living in one of those countries. But poosy, while very important, is not everything my life. Except for the cities I mentioned in my post, all other places fail in the balance I look for in a city (I'm not gonna waste 2 yrs of my career peak in a shithole Polish town just to chase girls). Rio came really close, tho, and I do think about living there on and off still. If I were a decade younger, my choices would be very different.

Also, it's great to interact with another musician (altho I wouldn't call myself one, I just like music) and thanks for the welcome! I've already met a couple recently transplanted musicians the last time I was in LA and will be meeting up with them in a couple weeks.

LOL, girls don't give a krap about what kind of car you drive, and that's especially true in LA where fancy cars are a dime a dozen.

*UPDATE*

I've now been in LA for 9 weeks and I've only pulled 1 girl back to my place, lol.

I started gaming properly and consistently over my last 7 weeks in college (Evanston, Illinois...just north of Chicago).

Over those 7 weeks, I pulled 7 girls back to my place (didn't have sex with all of them...strictly talking pulls).

So I'm essentially getting 10% the success out here, lol, despite being more confident NOW than I was 3 years ago. If that doesn't spell out the complete and utter futility of gaming in LA here for a guy then I don't know what would.

Do not move here...unless you're a male model/multi-millionaire/celebrity/woman/gay guy/virgin by choice.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/379298

What are some of the best spots in WeHo and DTLA?

(11-23-2016 01:14 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 04:33 PM)betaplusplus Wrote:  Some of you are reading too much between the lines. In my original post, I stated why I'm considering moving to LA: " I want to go to LA because I've always wanted to experience the weather, the West Coast, a proper tier-1 city, and the ladies." Yes, so ladies is a part of the reason - remember, I'm in DC now - but the 3 other factors are equally important to me. Obviously we're concentrating on the last factor since that's the focus of this forum but don't assume that is not the sole factor for my move.

Perhaps this will help. I'm saying this:
Guys, I'm thinking of moving to LA. Do you think I'll do better with the girls there than in DC given my stats even tho I'll make less in LA than what I currently make in DC?

Some of you seem to be reading it this way:
Guys, I'm getting no poosy in DC and think LA will solve that problem. I make lots of money and will drive a flashy car. Do you think the girls will throw themselves at me?

With that said, I've got lots of great feedback and constructive criticisms here and the responses are getting to the point of diminishing returns. You're certainly free to continue to respond to my original (and subsequent) posts but I will probably not read them. If you have something critical you'd like to share please PM me as some posters here have done.

@fucksong

Yep, been to most of those countries. The countries I've been to that are mentioned here often are: Ukraine, Romania, Hungary, Japan, China, Korea, Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Brazil, Colombia, and a few others. I've also read tons of datasheets regarding those countries. Believe me, I've thought about living in one of those countries. But poosy, while very important, is not everything my life. Except for the cities I mentioned in my post, all other places fail in the balance I look for in a city (I'm not gonna waste 2 yrs of my career peak in a shithole Polish town just to chase girls). Rio came really close, tho, and I do think about living there on and off still. If I were a decade younger, my choices would be very different.

Also, it's great to interact with another musician (altho I wouldn't call myself one, I just like music) and thanks for the welcome! I've already met a couple recently transplanted musicians the last time I was in LA and will be meeting up with them in a couple weeks.

LOL, girls don't give a krap about what kind of car you drive, and that's especially true in LA where fancy cars are a dime a dozen.

Funny, I was just reminiscing on my first year in LA and see that someone resurrected my post from 1.5 ago here. Might as well write down how things have gone here the past year...

LA has proven to be better than what I expected in almost every way. I pulled 11 girls (mostly Asian, one white/jewish, one brazilian), the past year living here, altho none after Halloween, and I dated one girl for about 3 months. All of them were 7+ (brazilian being an 8). In DC I was banging 6-6.5s and averaged 5-6 girls/yr despite knowing every good place in town, having numerous and strong social circles, and having a condo at the most prime location. In the first 3 months in LA, I was drowning in 1st dates. I think it was a combination of the new year / valentine's day factor plus me still having DC-standard swiping right to too many girls. Sometimes I'd have dates with 5 girls in one weekend driving all over the county. Obviously, I didn't close most of them and it ended up being a huge waste of time and energy. After a few months I increased my standard and stopped dealing with girls that live more than 10 miles away and became more efficient.

I live in ktown and that worked out very well logistically except for girls living in West LA but I mostly gamed girls in Hollywood, ktown, mid-city, DTLA, Pasadena, the SGV, so my location proved to be pretty central. Or perhaps I had a selection bias based on my location. My building has guest parking so, a lot of times, I'd tell the girl to drive to my place and park, and I'd drive us to the date spot, come back and come up to my place, break out my guitar, and the rest is history I got an office in DTLA and that helped me start a social circle as well. I metroed to this office every day from ktown and ubered everywhere within 10-mile radius so I've barely noticed traffic in LA.

Two of the guys on this forum reached out to me over PM after my posts last year. I met them both and I am now close friends with one of them. The other moved 2 hrs away almost immediately and works 80+hr-weeks so I don't get to see him much any more. Both of these guys helped out quite a bit getting my life started in LA and they now have a friend for life. While these two guys are pretty good players, I've been hanging out with some serious players here. One guy's count is rapidly approaching 300, and another has 3 girls in rotation. By going out with these guys and learning I feel my game improving at faster pace than in my prior years.

On the job front I ended up keeping my job in DC and took no pay cut. Bad news is that I had to fly to DC every month and that proved more difficult than I'd imagined. I'd get a number from a girl and try to set up a date, then I'd have to fly to DC for a week, and then she'd be busy for something, and things would fizzle out after a couple weeks. Add to that a several more business trips to other parts of the US and some international trips, I definitely missed some chances here. I also worked East Coast hours so I sometimes had hard time staying up late. I'm now making job changes next year so that I will stay in LA most of the time and work more normal hours.

I also lived with a roommate the first year. I did this because I knew that I might get really lonely not knowing anyone in the city the first few months and also I didn't want to buy all the furniture knowing that I might move to another city in a year if things didn't work out. I felt really funny, being in my mid-30s, having a roommate but not a single girl that I brought back batted an eye. A couple of them wanted to meet him. I understand this mentality a bit better now. Regardless, I just moved to a one-bedroom in a new building so I will never have weird feeling about mentioning a roommate. The last time I've had a roommate was 10 yrs ago.

One side benefit of living in LA that I hadn't realized before is the proximity to Vegas. I've gone twice already, ran good game but no lay yet, and I will continue to go and experiment at least once a quarter.

Finally, to address this guy's point somewhat, I did get a nice sports car but haven't bothered with the Lyft scheme. I just don't have the time and don't want the possibility of anyone throwing up in my car. My car doesn't get me laid but I've made one girl scream "mommy" a couple times solely with my right-foot and I closed that night. I think it helped at least a little. My car also got me started with a gearhead social circle and that's another group of friends I regularly hang out with.

In the end, I'm very happy here and will be staying in LA for a good while. I believe I made the best decision for my life. By getting my own place, acquiring a local client, and continuing to grow my social circle here I'm doubling down on this city and I feel I will do much better in 2017. Perhaps I will write another annual note next year.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

^Good for you man. Glad everything worked out. How are you mainly meeting girls? Online?

Hey LA guys, it looks like I am gonna be moving there for work in the near future.
Got a really good job offer working in El Segundo, so I'll probably live in Culver City or Venice.
Is there decent nightlife in Culver City itself? Its pretty close to DTLA so not too worried about it.

Is it really that bad dating and pulling girls out there?
After living in Miami and Europe the past few years, I am a bit worried!

The Blind Barber is my favorite in Culver City. Go early on a Friday or Saturday night, the place is swarming with good women.

Not a fan of the downtown Culver Bars though, has a very bridge and tunnel vibe to them.

I do a lot of my first dates at the Bigfoot Lodge. Great spot. Live as close to the expo line station in Culver as possible. There's a new kind of hip/modern lifestyle mall called the Platform with shops, coffee spots, restaurants, etc. Its a little overrated but in the future it'd be a good place to hang during the day.
http://www.platformla.com/

(03-24-2017 04:26 PM)spaceman Wrote:  Hey LA guys, it looks like I am gonna be moving there for work in the near future.
Got a really good job offer working in El Segundo, so I'll probably live in Culver City or Venice.
Is there decent nightlife in Culver City itself? Its pretty close to DTLA so not too worried about it.

Is it really that bad dating and pulling girls out there?
After living in Miami and Europe the past few years, I am a bit worried!

It's pretty brutal to say the least.

You either need to have the tightest game imaginable, look like/be a male model, or be a celebrity to get women out here. Otherwise, you're gonna have to come to terms with accepting the fact that the idea of romance out here is receiving a blumpkin from a 350 pound Mexican woman with 7 kids.

(03-24-2017 07:20 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  You either need to have the tightest game imaginable, look like/be a male model, or be a celebrity to get women out here. Otherwise, you're gonna have to come to terms with accepting the fact that the idea of romance out here is receiving a blumpkin from a 350 pound Mexican woman with 7 kids.

That depressed the shit out of me and LA isn't even on my radar.

(03-24-2017 09:52 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(03-24-2017 07:20 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  You either need to have the tightest game imaginable, look like/be a male model, or be a celebrity to get women out here. Otherwise, you're gonna have to come to terms with accepting the fact that the idea of romance out here is receiving a blumpkin from a 350 pound Mexican woman with 7 kids.

That depressed the shit out of me and LA isn't even on my radar.

It's true. It's why I got the fuck out and came to NYC, where it's been way, way, way better.

(03-24-2017 07:20 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  It's pretty brutal to say the least.

You either need to have the tightest game imaginable, look like/be a male model, or be a celebrity to get women out here. Otherwise, you're gonna have to come to terms with accepting the fact that the idea of romance out here is receiving a blumpkin from a 350 pound Mexican woman with 7 kids.

Haha holy shit!
My game was better when I was living in Miami... living in Europe makes you lazy.
My Game: Hey I'm American!

I need go back and read more of the thread but thats a buzzkill.

(03-25-2017 03:24 AM)spaceman Wrote:  

(03-24-2017 07:20 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  It's pretty brutal to say the least.

You either need to have the tightest game imaginable, look like/be a male model, or be a celebrity to get women out here. Otherwise, you're gonna have to come to terms with accepting the fact that the idea of romance out here is receiving a blumpkin from a 350 pound Mexican woman with 7 kids.

Haha holy shit!
My game was better when I was living in Miami... living in Europe makes you lazy.
My Game: Hey I'm American!

I need go back and read more of the thread but thats a buzzkill.

That tells you all you need to know.

I've heard Miami is brutally difficult unless you're a 6'3 Cuban Don Juan-looking mofo and the fact you did even better than LA shows just how insanely tough LA is.

I gotta say I did alright in Miami.. Pulled my share but it's alot of work.. I lived in mid beach which in retrospect was a mistake. Europe is just way easier and more relaxed about sex.

This job I'm looking at in LA seems like a great opportunity and living in a second tier City in Germany is starting to wear on me.

I guess I'll need to set my expectations if I take this job. I am excited to explore southern California and surf, etc etc

Wow I'm reading more of the thread.. this is depressing the hell out of me... Can it be really that bad?

(03-25-2017 06:39 AM)spaceman Wrote:  I gotta say I did alright in Miami.. Pulled my share but it's alot of work.. I lived in mid beach which in retrospect was a mistake. Europe is just way easier and more relaxed about sex.

This job I'm looking at in LA seems like a great opportunity and living in a second tier City in Germany is starting to wear on me.

I guess I'll need to set my expectations if I take this job. I am excited to explore southern California and surf, etc etc

Where would be the best place to live in Miami?

South Beach Bay side
Flamingo if you really wanna go for it.

(03-27-2017 03:12 PM)spaceman Wrote:  Wow I'm reading more of the thread.. this is depressing the hell out of me... Can it be really that bad?

I don't think it's as bad as some people say. Sure, it definitely has flaws, though you can work with them if you have tight game and something to offer.

Remember, there's almost nowhere else in the world where you can go surfing in the morning and go skiing that same afternoon. That in and of itself is pretty cool. It's also a city where a chick can work as a barista for 5 years waiting for a call back and suddenly have a role on a TV show within a week. It's not bullshit; I know girls who have had that experience. People tend to have very high ambitions here, but this can definitely lead to a lot of flaky behavior. Everybody's looking for the next best thing. It's not a city for somebody who isn't willing to grow and adapt.

Hardest part about LA is logistics. The city is really spread out, and the nightlife is concentrated in 3 areas (DTLA, Holly, Samo/Venice) which are all really far apart from each other, even without traffic. This leads to a fuck ton of cockblocks for logistics at the end of the night when it turns out that you live in the valley and she lives in Culver City. I can't count how many times I've had potential bangs blow up because of logistics. In regard to dates, sure, there's flakes, but not more than what I've experienced when visiting Miami or the bay area. I think if you did well in Miami, you should do fine out here.

I'm not sure where Naughty by Nature gets the "350 pound mexican woman with 7 kids" idea. Unless you're hitting Saddle Ranch, pretty much any bar/club in a decent area will have talent, and you can go to different areas depending if you like club sluts, hipster chicks, college girls, etc. The talent is there; the difficulty is with pulling them home same night.

Eastside girls are way better than Westside girls. They do sleep around alot, its just dealing with a lot of BS because there is competitive dick everywhere you look and girls have so many options and are usually all about getting a good snap or instagram photo. The lifestyle in LA in general is pretty awesome though, weather is as good as it gets and there are tons of things to do. If you can find your niche female-wise, its good.

The Raiders move from one of the worst cities in America to one of the best. Excellent move!

The real winner here is Los Angeles. Los Angelenos already head to Vegas half the weekends of the year to escape LA's awful nightlife, sprawl, traffic, and fake people.