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salmonfella · 2013-05-12 11:00:00 · #1326
NFallin how ya getting on with work bud? did ya make it up to the oil sands yet?Big Grin
BigIrish · 2013-05-12 13:32:00 · #1327
Well lads , how you all keeping ?

Been lurking about this thread for about a month now just reading through it and taking notes. Big shout out to the legend that is Scotian for all the advice and to everyone else thanks for all the info been extremely helpful.

Im hitting Edmonton on the 11th of June from Ireland on my 2year IEC visa and my plan is to get a start on the rigs I was for hitting Calgary but on reading this thread seems Edmonton is the best place to land a rig gig.

Im brickin it because ive never been out of Ireland before and im rolling solo which is probably best because I don't want to be carrying some other man.
Tresdus · 2013-05-13 14:23:00 · #1328
SAIT is really starting to annoy me. Send them all my transcripts, (course requires year 10 maths/english passed) and now they want transcripts of year11/12 even though I haven't even finished year 12 and it says no where that I need those.
sammybiker · 2013-05-18 12:35:00 · #1329
Anyone working the non-manual side up there? Construction engineer here, already working in BC but looking to jump over to AB. Would like to PM someone who is/has been there and sort out some details. Will be making the trek over to Edmonton next week to scope further.
DjembaDjemba · 2013-05-20 11:28:00 · #1330
The Good

I figured since I’ve been here for about three quarters of a year, it was time to do a little review of how things have been thus far in the great white, cold north of the industrial launch off city to Canada’s oil sands. The only metro area over 1 million this far north in North America.

When I arrived here, I came with the clothes on my back, a car, and a couple of thousand in cash.

I crashed on the couch of a family friend, and contacted another who promptly helped me find employment within 2 days of being here. The requirements of the job were essentially “can you pass a drug test?”

Easy right? Wrong!

The first time being sent to a site; large, industrial, heavy machinery was being hauled around, erected, disassembled, and moved again.

Essentially it was something that looks like a scene out of command and conquer red alert. I was grossly unprepared. The boss knew I was unprepared. I got a gig where I sat around all day for a few days. Everything seemed daunting, climbing on the roof of a floating structure using a rickety ladder, watching overhead and low hanging wires at all times while diligently working away.

Constant communication with co-workers to make sure they and I remain safe, and most importantly, everything must be done fast! Very fast!

My advice for newbies especially those hailing from non industrial backgrounds is simple.

Keep your shoulders busy, move faster, never stop, and have a purpose. Don’t walk around looking clueless. That slow lethargic walk you have around the office from the water cooler to the cubicle on Monday morning? Fuck that, you better not do that on an oil site; your ass will get thrown off, as we call it, “skidded”. Thinking several steps ahead is tantamount to you remaining employed in this industry. Moving several steps faster is paramount to you getting called on the next big contract with your employer. Doing it all reliably is what gets you moving up quicker into a trade.

All that being said, once you have speed, thought, energy and decisiveness down to a science, and it all becomes second nature, the work can become a bit more routine. This is where different trades, sites, foreman and site superintendents all diverge in terms of approach to a task or a project.

There are different rotations offered, every company has a different way of doing things. Each individual foreman likes different approaches.

Diligently do what’s asked of you, as long as it’s safe, do it quick, and you should be fine. You’ll make good impressions. If someone doesn’t like you for another reason (personality, and/or a non work related reason), fuck them. You’ll meet plenty of assholes in the industry.


The Bad

Which brings me to my next point. The assholes, idiots, drunks, crack heads, weirdos, bikers, biker cowboys, Nazis, Somali gangsters, Jamaican gangsters, rich kids, angry drunk natives, angry drunk white guys, butch female dykes, ex-cons, know it all’s, know nothings, conspiracy theorists, juice monkeys, and pretty much anything under the fucking sun.

The majority of people you’ll work with in the prairies are cowboys and farmer’s kids. Fort Mac is a bit different as it’s more diverse. There are more Atlantic Canadian workers there, and lots of Somalians/Philipinos. But my job takes me all over the place, and I’ve thus so far avoided the heaven on earth we call Fort Mac. Where we fuck mother nature in the asshole for money. And there’s plenty of it too. This one is charged to the game.

The shifts can be daunting. Working for 21/6 for example, takes you for a 21-day ride out of town. You’re working 21 days in butt fuck nowhere. Then you come home for 6 days, and try to chase whatever pussy your dick can get wet on. It’s a constant battle. You have 6 days to catch a fish (or a whale, or bear depending on your type). Date her, wine her, game her, bang her, and off you go back. This is not easy, I bet even seasoned players would have trouble doing it this way. When I arrived here from the now infamous Toronto, I was on a high at the time. Good job, nice place off Ossington, easy 9-5, suited up daily, GQ to the sock.

Then I hit up the big Dead-Monton. It a shock to the system. The days of clubbing on Monday night were over. After my first shift in butt fuck nowhere, I decided to hit up a bar on Wednesday. Flopped. It was shit, empty; the girls were frumpy, and just as cliquey as Toronto’s. Albeit friendlier. But friendly bitches don’t get dicks wet now do they? Came home and ranted on the roosh forum about how terrible it was. This place was already sucking the life out of me, and I was only here for 2 days.

Second night I decided to hit a up another random spot. Walked in late, grabbed a drink, solo dolo, approached a 6 foot blonde, 2 hours later, I was in my place fucking her. That was fast.

That relaxed me and I solo gamed the rest my remaining days off in bars, I was approached quite often and girls would ask “why are you alone?”. Ended up fucking quite a bit that first week.

But then, another 21 days came by pretty fast. Another 21 days of no ass, no tits, no pussy. Just drunken, coked out tradesmen. Belligerent, intoxicated, and damn good at everything related to work, but none related to pussy. You don’t get better at gaming women talking to drunken welders all day.

After finishing up that shift, it was another scramble to find ass in 6 days off. Same story, solo dolo, approaching anything that has a vagina and gets the dick hard. These are tough times, because it becomes a mad scramble to do everything all at once in town, and find pussy too.

Eventually the notches once again come, but they’re getting harder. Already lost all the ones from the previous 21 days as girls aren’t interested at sitting around by themselves while you’re away working. They’ll find other dick. Especially if you haven’t shacked them up in an LTR. If I had a 1000km cock I’d keep them satisfied long distance.

Once again 21 days approach, once again, the story repeats. See a pattern? This will be your life if you’re making big dollars out of town. There are local projects, on call work, 5-2 shifts (basically 9-5 mon-fri), but the big money, that comes from doing out of town rotations. They pay more because you’re working longer overtime, and you’re out of town away from everything. Being out of town gets boring fast. Good luck gaming pussy. Sanity? Your days of sanity are over. Get a good book.

The Aesthetically less than pleasing

Which brings me to my third point. When out of town drive your quality of women down over time, especially when you get really horny. I’ve lucked out with my pursuits, but there are definitely dragons I would’ve slayed if I had logistics in place.

Every once in a while, you being an awesome male who’s got game, good bankroll, is smart, and stands above the drunken belligerent competition will find a girl who falls for you hard. She’ll please you, tease you, cook for you, and keep your cock warm in those cold winter months. The LTR, the winter shack down, hell, you two shouldn’t even be going out. You’re better than her, but guess what, chasing pussy from November – March when it’s -35C outside daily gets daunting.

The legend of Virgle Kent (the most solid game blog by far in the sphere) wrote thoroughly about the subject:

http://nexxtlevelup.com/game/paid-those-girls

Quote: I have urges. It’s a Thursday night and I don’t want to play the game. I don’t want to ask how her week is going, how her day was, what’s new with work. I don’t want to wait for the salmon and asparagus to finish cooking. I don’t want to pour the cheap wine and relax, not tonight. I just want to hurry up and get inside of her; I just want to be inside of someone and not feel alone. This girl, she’s not about that life, she’s not running around town concerned with dating multiple guys and free dinners. I can tell she’s worried about us, what we’re doing, where all this is going. She knows deep down inside she can’t ever be my girl, I’ll never date her, and I’ll keep her at arm’s length. She’ll figure out the pattern and decide she wants more of a commitment.

http://nexxtlevelup.com/game/the-winter-sex-tips

Quote:Winter is coming and unless you travel to an Eastern European city or live in a college town/ University where you have a never ending supply of hot women that you can leave your house and pick from then you know how rough its about to get. Right now in DC and other big cities the number of attractive girls to sleep with is slowly decreasing every weekend. As nature intended they are slowly finding other men and pairing off for the winter. By early December all that will be left in my city is garbage time. Nothing barely over a 6. The chances of going back to your place with a girl who has hairy legs connected to an even hairier bush will increase.


If you’re reading a “game” blog that’s convincing you that you’re not getting laid because the Mexicans, blacks, IQ level disparities, Islam in Europe, Feminism, globalization, or aliens from Pluto, close that shit. It’s making you stupid and it’s ruining your game.

Read some nexxtlevelup.com, you’ll need a positive attitude in this industry if you’re to keep your sanity.

All in all moving out to Alberta is something that I encourage as long as you know what’s in store. That’s why I posted this, a bit more of a ‘ground’ report of a guy who likes getting laid, making money, and building a career while simultaneously trying to enjoy the unholy union between the three.


Good luck to anyone making the move.
Atlantic · 2013-05-21 21:10:00 · #1331
^ Good post
RossTan · 2013-05-21 23:19:00 · #1332
THis is odd..why did my post get deleted? It was relevant to the topic.

Vacancy rates in Edmonton are a whole lot higher and cheaper than Calgary.
http://www.rentfaster.ca <----For anyone picking a city to live in for the beginning. Edmonton is it, hands down. Just look at the listings.
More reasons I would recommend Edmonton initially over Calgary:
Edmonton is a Trades town, the people are not as pretentious as Calgary.
Edmonton has MORE Lotto winners than Calgary, 'cause more people play the Lotto in Edmonton.
Lotto is relevant because as you work your Trade job you may want to pool with other workers and enter a Lotto draw. More than once, a group of oil workers have WON 50 and 20 million dollar jackpots. Their location:Edmonton and surrounding area.

Exercise ALL options to build your bankroll. Employment income, real estate investing, lotto plays (sparingly).

As for women, in my opinion, a hole is a hole. Nothing to lose any sleep over. Keep the main plan the main plan. Women will always be there anyway.

I like Edmonton, despite the crappy roads, the people rock in that city 'cause they aren't afraid to get dirty to earn a living. Male or female. Saw me more than once a cute girl working landscaping and another driving a UPS truck. I've never seen that in Calgary in the 12 years I've lived here.

Anyone want to start a good career and not worry about the superficial status symbols, Edmonton is THE place in my opinion. Millionaires I've met in Edmonton, drink beer, and wear jeans and look as scruffy as everyone else. Tongue

IN my opinion you can focus more in Edmonton on your main goal of building major bank. If LTR is also your goal, Edmonton over Calgary. As I mentioned before, the people in the SPring BLOOM. Fathers play with their children like it's their last day on Earth after working all those months away from home, the look in their wife's eyes...total appreciation.
Nima · 2013-05-27 14:46:00 · #1333
@ zeeman
I just saw your texts. Left my phone in my boss' truck and just got it back today, even more broken than it was before. If you remember the back was shattered, now the front glass is shattered too. Can't type on it anymore lol

I called NAIT to do my exam but they're not picking up. Will def'n do it and get it out of the way this week.
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@ all the guys in your 20's, watch this video. It's a TED video (I've been known to watch TEDtalks videos for hours at a time lol).

It's a great motivational video. The whole point of this video is that contrary to "popular belief, your 20's are not a throwaway decade," and that the time to get off your ass is RIGHT NOW, not in your 30's.

I tried a few times to write a brief summary about what she says, but it's best to watch it yourself and take away what you think is important and motivational. The second half of the video is where all the good stuff is, but watch the whole thing.



RossTan · 2013-05-27 19:21:00 · #1334
(05-27-2013 02:46 PM)Nima Wrote:  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

@ all the guys in your 20's, watch this video. It's a TED video (I've been known to watch TEDtalks videos for hours at a time lol).

It's a great motivational video. The whole point of this video is that contrary to "popular belief, your 20's are not a throwaway decade," and that the time to get off your ass is RIGHT NOW, not in your 30's.

Anytime is a good time to get off one's ass! Wink Teens, Twenties, THirties, Forties, until your in the ground, no better time than the present! Wink
Fredster · 2013-05-29 06:52:00 · #1335
I'm not a tradesman, but I have no idea what I want to do in life and I just want to make money and this sounds like the best option right now.

I am 25, I have screwed up doing a science degree and getting bad grades and now doing IT.

What are my options?

How do I deal wit hall the scary people I am working with?

I am from Australia, can I still do this?

This looks like a great way to improve mental toughness.
Zeus · 2013-05-29 08:36:00 · #1336
The previous 54 pages will answer all your questions
Jourgensen · 2013-05-29 08:41:00 · #1337
Well, i wasn't able to get my visa for Canada and getting one for Australia is even tougher.

Wondering if there's any similiar kind of jobs in the U.S.? Like Eagle Ford, Texas, or something like that?
Vacancier Permanent · 2013-05-29 12:49:00 · #1338
Search North Dakota. There is a similar thread in here about it. Best of luck!

(05-29-2013 08:41 AM)Jourgensen Wrote:  Well, i wasn't able to get my visa for Canada and getting one for Australia is even tougher.

Wondering if there's any similiar kind of jobs in the U.S.? Like Eagle Ford, Texas, or something like that?
Jourgensen · 2013-05-29 13:29:00 · #1339
I did. Good thread.

But what about foreigners? I'm from Europe.
RossTan · 2013-05-29 20:14:00 · #1340
(05-29-2013 01:29 PM)Jourgensen Wrote:  I did. Good thread.

But what about foreigners? I'm from Europe.

Do you speak Russian? LOTS of drilling activity in Russia and Siberia. Use the same tactics shared in this thread to approach companies where you are. Croatia is a train ride to the UK, is it not? As a EU citizen you have MANY options! Big Grin
Jourgensen · 2013-05-30 06:03:00 · #1341
I don't think the things are so simple in Europe (we europeans like to complicate everything) like they are in the States, i don't think one has a chance to get a job if you just show up the door, as one probably has in the States or in Canada.

It seems to me that things are alot more practical in the US.
scotian · 2013-05-30 08:17:00 · #1342
Guys I've booked my ticket, I will be back in Edmonton on June 6th, I may even swing down to Cowtown for a couple of days before making my way up to Fort McMurray for at least a few months. So if any of you will be around June 6th til about the 12th or so, lets have an RVF Etown meet up and you guys I haven't met yet can buy me those beers you owe me, later.
Zeus · 2013-05-30 08:36:00 · #1343
Scotian

Balls!

Im out of town for that week!

Trip north is a must now.
salmonfella · 2013-05-30 09:44:00 · #1344
Any ye dudes coming to the stampede?Big Grin
scotian · 2013-05-30 11:02:00 · #1345
(05-30-2013 09:44 AM)salmonfella Wrote:  Any ye dudes coming to the stampede?Big Grin

I'm gonna try to make it, but likely won't know until last minute.
RossTan · 2013-05-30 20:41:00 · #1346
(05-30-2013 06:03 AM)Jourgensen Wrote:  I don't think the things are so simple in Europe (we europeans like to complicate everything) like they are in the States, i don't think one has a chance to get a job if you just show up the door, as one probably has in the States or in Canada.

It seems to me that things are alot more practical in the US.

A lot of us are in Canada as well. Wink Oil is oil. WHere there's drilling activity there is a need for labor. I found out about the Siberia opportunities living in Canada. Keep your eyes
open, (get on local internet jobsites. I use indeed.ca here, you may have something similar where you live.) make those calls and build your network where you are. Networking has no borders. THe techniques are applicable. As long as you have an internet connection and stable power grid. You can succeed. Keep your eyes on your goals! Obstacles are something you see when you take your eyes off your goal!
RossTan · 2013-05-30 20:52:00 · #1347
(05-30-2013 08:17 AM)scotian Wrote:  Guys I've booked my ticket, I will be back in Edmonton on June 6th, I may even swing down to Cowtown for a couple of days before making my way up to Fort McMurray for at least a few months. So if any of you will be around June 6th til about the 12th or so, lets have an RVF Etown meet up and you guys I haven't met yet can buy me those beers you owe me, later.

MASSIVE APPRECIATION, SCOTIAN for sharing and starting an awesome thread, sir!!! Big Grin
I don't drink beer, yet definitely up for a Booster Juice meet up come July if you stop by for Stampede in Calgary! Big Grin

If no Booster Juice meet up, I'll drop by the bar and say hello to y'all anyway! come June, cause I maybe in Fort Saskatchewan (short drive to Edmonton) come first couple of weeks of June for a site job. Will find out Monday if I'm on the crew for the job. Smile

Hopefully get to meet everyone come June! Big Grin Prosperity for all! Big Grin
scotian · 2013-05-31 05:50:00 · #1348
So I updated my facebook status yesterday to inform my friends that I"m heading back to Alberta and decided to add that I'm looking for work, by today I had five different leads from different companies. Here's what I was offered:

-Pipeline gig in Bonneyville, Alberta
-Steady work in Fort Mac, living in the city
-Steady work based out of Edmonton, probably lots of field work
-Four days on, four off at a coal mine near Fernie BC (this one would be sweet because Fernie is an awesome town, great snowboarding in the winter, golf and fishing in the summer)
-Five month shutdown in Saskatchewan

The coal mine gig really interested me but I'm going to pass because I plan on taking next winter off again, good to know that a sweet job like that exists though. I'm probably going to take the shutdown gig in Saskatchewan because its with a company I've already worked for and I know a few of the guys on it (including my best friend who traveled with me in Asia), it should be pretty easy going and it will be a good opportunity for me to learn new things and advance my career. So if I take this gig, I will probably work for five months straight with the least amount of days off as possible then come November I will fuck off somewhere warm again!

Oh ya, the start date on the Sask job is June 10th so I will only have a few days in Edmonton, hopefully some of you guys will be around then.
?Kick · 2013-05-31 07:40:00 · #1349
Lets give her!

I'll be around, beers/vodka sodas for sure
T5_Income · 2013-05-31 16:40:00 · #1350
I also work in Fort Mcmurray, you make lots of money but everything is expensive.

Oil change on my car was $78
I rent a bedroom and it is $1000 a month
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