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RE: Observations on a night out in Nottingham....terrible.
(05-05-2013 02:56 PM)Hyperion Wrote: Anytime I observe the British, I come away amazed that they were the dominant global power for such a long time. I suppose it's just a complete and rapid degeneration of culture and society.
We seem to have been dealing with collective national guilt for it ever since, and are now petrified to be patriotic or feel good about ourselves for anything. We should take a leaf out of the Germans' book, unashamedly back at the top of the EU pile once again after everything in the last 100 years.
That said, there's a sea change coming in, people's political leanings are finally heading further right...
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RE: Observations on a night out in Nottingham....terrible.
(05-05-2013 04:30 PM)EU Explorer Wrote: (05-05-2013 02:56 PM)Hype
rion Wrote: Anytime I observe the British, I come away amazed that they were the dominant global power for such a long time. I suppose it's just a complete and rapid degeneration of culture and society.
Hyperion I totally agree with you but also think the USA is also on a downward path. I actually blame the political systems in both countries for starting the problems.
Oh no doubt, I share the same sentiment about the USA. If you took a coma 20 years ago, and woke up today you'd have a difficult time believing you were in the same country. Unless something changes soon(unlikely) then I expect everything to degenerate further.
One of the reasons this site is so great, to get a global perspective from people who actually travel and aren't afraid to say the truth as they see it. There's only so much of the whole 'Oh noes, you should be thrilled with your BBWs, non-feminine women and androgyneous society' that a sane person can tolerate.
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RE: Observations on a night out in Nottingham....terrible.
(05-05-2013 04:15 PM)Hoodlum Wrote: That said, there's a sea change coming in, people's political leanings are finally heading further right...
It's always been there, but people have been scared into silence. UKIP have made it acceptable again, and that's why I'm a member. I love Europe, truly love it, but hate the EU. I absolutely adore being so close to Italy, Spain, Germany etc...and then also Poland, Ukraine etc...but I don't want to be governed by a 'one-size-fits-all' authoritarian supra-national organization, headed by career-politicians and not-so-closet Maoists.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
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RE: Observations on a night out in Nottingham....terrible.
I like northern British birds but not for their looks so much, more because you can have a laugh with them on a night out, get piss faced with them and then bang them in a bus stop after a few hours of meeting them. I've had some epic nights out in the meat markets of places like Stoke, Oldham, Rochdale etc. but it's not for the faint hearted. For a foreigner not used to such places it would probably be a bit too much of a cultural deep end to jump into on a short trip unless you had a British wingman.
If you are looking for quality avoid the majority of the north but if you want drunken one night stands in rough arse towns and a chicken fu-yung from the Chinese chippy on the way home then the north is great. If you want quality women and FSU chicks then stay south and hit London.
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RE: Observations on a night out in Nottingham....terrible.
(05-06-2013 08:46 AM)DBCooper Wrote: (05-06-2013 08:08 AM)Vorkuta Wrote: I've had some epic nights out in the meat markets of places like Stoke, Oldham, Rochdale etc. but it's not for the faint hearted. For a foreigner not used to such places it would probably be a bit too much of a cultural deep end to jump into on a short trip unless you had a British wingman.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you say not for the faint hearted are you making reference to the disparity in the culture between a night out in America and one here in the UK? My impression of it has always been that you're more likely to get the shite kicked out of you on a night out here, but not as much in America?
Not necessarily between US and UK but pretty much a foreigner from anywhere except probably Australia.
As you know the nights out up north can be fucking rough, people getting smashed about, knuckle draggers everywhere, over zealous bouncers on roids looking to steam you, spill someone's pint or make eye contact and you can get into a brawl. And that's just in a club. Then you have to navigate the taxi queue or the kebab shop with the pissed up dickwads who did not pull and are looking to round the evening off with bit of afters.
You, I, Sportbilly and the other Brits on here have grown up knowing the way around these things, we have had to learn avoidance techniques and have heightened awareness when we're out or we'd be rolling around on beer stained carpets every Friday night with the local dickheads. But say a young Belarusian lad gets off the plane in Manchester and heads to Toxteth or Burnley for a night out? He'd have no fucking clue and sense little of the pitfalls. In the same way as if I hit up a rough club in Detroit or Tirana without knowing the way things work I'd be putting myself in the way of a possible brawl.
Apart from the brawling that we take for granted on a northern shit-hole night out there is the shock of seeing the sights: people fucking in bus stops, women unconscious in the street, people spewing up in doorways, women showing their tits and minges to passing motorists. If you grew up thinking UK life is like a scene from a Dicken's novel you'd have a fucking heart attack.
Despite all that, it's a bloody good crack.
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RE: Observations on a night out in Nottingham....terrible.
(05-07-2013 04:32 AM)Partizan Wrote: However the biggest craphole I was ever in was Luton. God awful place riven by despair, urban decay, racial tensions and far Right football hooligans whom I had a run in with. I have to admit, the Celtic top didnt help. That said its gas seeing these EDL heads shouting Paki this and Paki that, yet after a night drinking foreign ale, head up to the local Asian takeaway for a Vindaloo.
Bedford and Luton are absolute crapholes. To be fair though, in Luton, the Muslim gangs aren't any better. Them, aided and abetted by the UAF, and the EDL are flipsides of the same coin. Lack of education combined with misguided multiculturalism.
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RE: Observations on a night out in Nottingham....terrible.
(05-07-2013 04:58 PM)Teedub Wrote: (05-07-2013 04:32 AM)Partizan Wrote: However the biggest craphole I was ever in was Luton. God awful place riven by despair, urban decay, racial tensions and far Right football hooligans whom I had a run in with. I have to admit, the Celtic top didnt help. That said its gas seeing these EDL heads shouting Paki this and Paki that, yet after a night drinking foreign ale, head up to the local Asian takeaway for a Vindaloo.
Bedford and Luton are absolute crapholes. To be fair though, in Luton, the Muslim gangs aren't any better. Them, aided and abetted by the UAF, and the EDL are flipsides of the same coin. Lack of education combined with misguided multiculturalism.
Yes indeed. Its what they used to say about Robert Mugabe and Ian Smith, two cheeks of the same arse. Both needed each other to exist and were a by-product of the system.
Thats what you get when you dont integrate ethnic groups into wider society, they become ghettoised which breeds fear and ignorance.
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