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Dear Feminists and Trolls,

What do feminism and freedom have in common?

Feminism (n): 1: the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes 2: organized activity on behalf of women’s rights and interests.

Freedom (n): 1: the quality or state of being free: as a) the absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action b) from slavery or restraint or from the power of another.

At the core of our value systems Roosh V forumers and feminists are one. We both want to have sex on our own terms while being free from government hassle, financial debt, identity persecution and violence. Imagine that? We are all sisters and brothers from another mother indeed.

I agree with tenets of the feminist ethical scope which state that rape, pedophilia, indentured servitude, and murder are wrong and should be illegal. I also believe that the weak among us should be protected by the strongest of the tribe. However, beyond that, the meaning of “reality,” especially North American reality, and the laws and norms that pertain to the managing of its so-called social contract are highly suspect. If you think that North America is a morally clean, honest, ethical place where justice prevails for all regardless of race, class or gender then I suggest you take up reading something else besides Nicholas Sparks’ novels. Sugarcoat it how you will but the fact remains that every single one of us lives in a vicious, brutal, unequal world.

The reason most North American women do not see the world this way is because they have the unearned privilege of not having to witness the brutality first hand. They hide away in their gated communities unconsciously paying mercenaries (i.e., men) to go out in the middle of the night to do their dirty work for them. How many chicken eating betas out there bitching about a man’s choice to be free have ever slaughtered a chicken? Very few, if any. Why? Because many feminists live lives void of logical consequence, they live in a fantasy world where chickens die and are eaten without anyone ever having to get actual blood on their hands. But slaughtering chickens ain’t the half of it. This world is not all fair trade organic cherries and iPhones and Vanity Fair and Gucci hand bags and Whole Foods and yoga and electric cars and traveling to the Bahamas on bio-diesel yachts for lavish white knight weddings. Out here in the real world there’s a dirty job to do and somebody’s gotta’ do it. Who’s gonna’ do it, you? Lol.

Those of us on this forum did not invent this world. Like you, we are merely unfortunate pawns in a broader game. We are all grasping at life until death makes heroes of us all. The meaning of the game is not abundantly clear. What exactly are the rules? It appears as if there are at least fifty shades of grey. How else do you explain good things happening to bad people? Perhaps this game of life actually has no rules and means absolutely nothing? Ever think of that when you’re getting all self-righteous with your asexual moral theories and opinions about what a fact may or may not be? Human reality is so insanely irrational and highly subjective. When you’re young you believe one thing, as you grow and begin to age and wizen up you believe another. Which version of your consciousness is right? Maybe they are both wrong? One thing’s for sure, regardless of your opinions and “truth,” you, like the rest of us will soon eat shit and die. You may as well stick a dick in your mouth and enjoy the ride.

Human interpretation of three-dimensional reality cannot be trusted. Back in the day we humans unanimously agreed that the earth was flat. Guess what? Wrong. And now you feminists sit there stewing in your flawed judgment aghast at a world of sex crazed men who women gave birth to. You are “disturbed” that we have the freedom to assemble and speak truth to your lack of power. We have decoded your pussy game and now you are furious. Our immune systems have adapted to your no sex virus. Why must you force us to lie and play the game? Why don’t you just let us bang you when and where we want and be done with it? If you’d just let us climb on top of you for a thirty-second pump and dump like the lionesses let the lions do we would all be one notch closer to world peace. If you’d just accept the truth of who men really are it would set you free. All we want from you is sex. We don’t care about your feelings and ideas and opinions and you will never be a man’s best friend. That title is reserved solely for the greatness of dogs and other men. Every man you have ever known secretly believes this but they have been too beta (i.e., feminized) to be sack down, cowboy up, and balls to the wall in your face about it. Why? Because if they did you would never make sweet love to them again! So you see it is you women who hate men, not the other way around. I am not a misogynist, I do not hate women, I just don’t like most women because they don’t know shit about guns, football, motorcycles, whiskey, cigars and prostitutes.

So I say this to you with complete and utter authority: God does not exist and any adult who believes otherwise is clinically insane and not worthy of the game. Your religious tales of ghosts and goblins and morals and the six agreements and your tax-exempt catholic pedophile fantasy bullshit are exhausting. Magic doesn’t exist. Criss Angel can’t levitate. It’s called an illusion. I’ve read The Bible and The Koran and The Torah and The Book of Mormon and it’s all laughable. All that shit was invented to lull the masses to sleep while The Church raped sacrificial virgins and plundered native peoples for their gold. Anyone who lives by that primitive, Eurocentric, patriarchal bullshit is a serf who deserves to be oppressed.

The real ethical and moral questions you should be addressing are not the trivial nonsensical sex games played out between North American men and women (of which both are culpable for it takes two to tango), but instead to ask yourself how money flows amongst the super rich and famous and why they don’t pay shit for taxes and why they don’t go to jail for committing crimes that would have the rest of us serving life sentences? Or maybe you could do something useful like start a petition asking the U.S. and Canadian governments to invade Africa, India, and Pakistan in an attempt to put a stop to the vaginal mutilation and gang rape that is so prevalent in those cultures? Now those men over there all the real motherfuckin’ deal, the epitome of evil. Why don’t you spend your time harassing those sand nigger douche bags? Feel the hate. Do you feel the hate? Yes you do. We are one.

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I apologize to all forumers for my use of the N-word. Won't happen again.

Peace,

Da' Purps

Post: #3

started losing your mind at the end there Opie

Post: #4

My friend, let me tell you three things:

1) Women, the game, all of that.....not that important. Not worth an essay on an internet forum where nobody is grading, paying, or voting for you.

2) Your writing indicates that you are in the middle of some kind of nervous breakdown or acid trip. Your username tells me that you may like to smoke weed. You should take a vacation from whatever is gripping your mind, whether it is work or drugs or alcohol or some other thing.

3) Africa is not one culture, and Canada is not going to invade India anytime soon.

Post: #5

I don't get the purpose of this manifesto.
Feminists are the last people to admit that they're similar to RVFers. We want a world full of slim women worth fucking and they want a world where women have significantly more power than men - i.e, a woman's word can put a man in jail, an accusation of rape can be retroactively announced, women are legally entitled to a man's money and children without his company, being masculine is considered harassment, they are entitled to welfare, fat shaming and slut shaming are hate crimes, and that sort of shit. The problem here is that the feminists require a lot of heavy handed government intervention to sway these policies and change public opinion while RVFers need less government if anything. Feminists could give a shit less about "sex on [our] own terms", they tend to use everything including sex as political weapons.

The goals of RVFers and feminists are completely different and often contradictory. I don't even know why you'd attempt or want to bridge the gap between us. You're in cloud cuckooland, man.

Post: #6

Love is hate.
War is peace.

Post: #7

(04-13-2013 01:00 AM)Hades Wrote:  I don't get the purpose of this manifesto.

I think what he's trying to saying that feminism is a giant conspiracy to keep our eyes off the super-rich who are using it to distract men from the fact that we are all being ruled by this elite clique.

Ergo, we are too busy fighting feminism to fight the tyrants.

Ergo, we actually do what they want us to do.

Ergo, feminists and rooshtafarians are the same. We are both pawns of The Evil Ones.

He also mentions that religion is also a tool of mass control, same way as this fake fight between feminists and patriarchists.

Unfortunately, Uncle Urkle points out what he thinks is wrong without explaining what one can/should do about it.

Post: #8

Thanks for the input guys. I appreciate you taking the time to read it and reply thoughtfully and with clear intent. I'lI take what you have to say into consideration.

Post: #9

(04-12-2013 11:57 PM)polymath Wrote:  My friend, let me tell you three things:

Your writing indicates that you are in the middle of some kind of nervous breakdown or acid trip.

Canada is not going to invade India anytime soon.

Lol. This is some funny shit right here

Post: #10

(04-12-2013 11:57 PM)polymath Wrote:  My friend, let me tell you three things:

1) Women, the game, all of that.....not that important. Not worth an essay on an internet forum where nobody is grading, paying, or voting for you.

2) Your writing indicates that you are in the middle of some kind of nervous breakdown or acid trip. Your username tells me that you may like to smoke weed. You should take a vacation from whatever is gripping your mind, whether it is work or drugs or alcohol or some other thing.

3) Africa is not one culture, and Canada is not going to invade India anytime soon.

Okay, so after taking some time to ponder your curious response to what is clearly an attack on feminism I have come to the conclusion that you are personally offended by something I wrote. But because you are being unauthentic and therefore acting in bad faith you fail to address what it is that you disagree with. Instead you try to attack me personally. Not just that, you say I am having a "breakdown" possibly induced by somekind of drug use and instead of being considerate of such a fragile human state you "my friend" attempt to push that fragility over the edge with taunts and rejection not based on the merits but on your own reasonless emotion. So why don't you come clean with yourself... what exactly do you disagree with and why? Tell me something I don't know please. Voting for me? Africa is a continent not a country? No shit Sherlock, the whole thing is tounge and cheek. Only a girl would interpret a deconstruction of feminism as an attack on red pill theory. Next you'll be telling us you believe in God and other such blue pill fairytales.

Post: #11

(04-13-2013 03:20 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 01:00 AM)Hades Wrote:  I don't get the purpose of this manifesto.

I think what he's trying to saying that feminism is a giant conspiracy to keep our eyes off the super-rich who are using it to distract men from the fact that we are all being ruled by this elite clique.

Ergo, we are too busy fighting feminism to fight the tyrants.

Ergo, we actually do what they want us to do.

Ergo, feminists and rooshtafarians are the same. We are both pawns of The Evil Ones.

He also mentions that religion is also a tool of mass control, same way as this fake fight between feminists and patriarchists.

Unfortunately, Uncle Urkle points out what he thinks is wrong without explaining what one can/should do about it.

No, I don't subscribe to conspiracy but to systems theory. Why does this "manifesto" as you interpret it have to have a point? What offended you personally? What did I get wrong about power as it relates to game? Not one fuckin' thing you agree with in my slamming of feminism? Because you believe in the immature beta concept of God you cannot see the forest from the trees my dear sweet nephew. The concept of Oneness is as ancient as the redwoods. Ever read The Art of War or Aristotle's Poetics? Steinbeck's East of Eden? We are all interconnected. This is not the same as being similar. Every action you take has an equal yet opposite reaction with both intended and unintended consequences. For example, I intended to ruffle some femenized Toronto feathers and instead a bunch of forumers got their panties all in a knot because I dare to paraphrase Nietzsche's "God is dead" diatribe.

You want a solution? There is none except understanding that white knight fairy tales cannot save you from your impending doom. Yes, you and the feminists will die the same gruelling death. What is not equal about that? C'mon man, you can do it, swallow the red pill. Thats it. Easy now. Uncle will make it all better. Come on over to the dark side... its lighter over here.

Post: #12

(04-26-2013 08:39 AM)Purple Urkle Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 03:20 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 01:00 AM)Hades Wrote:  I don't get the purpose of this manifesto.

I think what he's trying to saying that feminism is a giant conspiracy to keep our eyes off the super-rich who are using it to distract men from the fact that we are all being ruled by this elite clique.

Ergo, we are too busy fighting feminism to fight the tyrants.

Ergo, we actually do what they want us to do.

Ergo, feminists and rooshtafarians are the same. We are both pawns of The Evil Ones.

He also mentions that religion is also a tool of mass control, same way as this fake fight between feminists and patriarchists.

Unfortunately, Uncle Urkle points out what he thinks is wrong without explaining what one can/should do about it.

No, I don't subscribe to conspiracy but to systems theory. Why does this "manifesto" as you interpret it have to have a point? What offended you personally? What did I get wrong about power as it relates to game? Not one fuckin' thing you agree with in my slamming of feminism? Because you believe in the immature beta concept of God you cannot see the forest from the trees my dear sweet nephew. The concept of Oneness is as ancient as the redwoods. Ever read The Art of War or Aristotle's Poetics? Steinbeck's East of Eden? We are all interconnected. This is not the same as being similar. Every action you take has an equal yet opposite reaction with both intended and unintended consequences. For example, I intended to ruffle some femenized Toronto feathers and instead a bunch of forumers got their panties all in a knot because I dare to paraphrase Nietzsche's "God is dead" diatribe.

You want a solution? There is none except understanding that white knight fairy tales cannot save you from your impending doom. Yes, you and the feminists will die the same gruelling death. What is not equal about that? C'mon man, you can do it, swallow the red pill. Thats it. Easy now. Uncle will make it all better. Come on over to the dark side... its lighter over here.

Okay, this thread now officially belongs in the drunk lounge.

Post: #13

(04-13-2013 01:00 AM)Hades Wrote:  I don't get the purpose of this manifesto.
Feminists are the last people to admit that they're similar to RVFers. We want a world full of slim women worth fucking and they want a world where women have significantly more power than men - i.e, a woman's word can put a man in jail, an accusation of rape can be retroactively announced, women are legally entitled to a man's money and children without his company, being masculine is considered harassment, they are entitled to welfare, fat shaming and slut shaming are hate crimes, and that sort of shit. The problem here is that the feminists require a lot of heavy handed government intervention to sway these policies and change public opinion while RVFers need less government if anything. Feminists could give a shit less about "sex on [our] own terms", they tend to use everything including sex as political weapons.

The goals of RVFers and feminists are completely different and often contradictory. I don't even know why you'd attempt or want to bridge the gap between us. You're in cloud cuckooland, man.

I know you are but what am I? Why does everything have to have a purpose? Read it again. Your interpretation is wrong. Come on you can do it, the truth shall set you free.

Post: #14

(04-26-2013 08:46 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 08:39 AM)Purple Urkle Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 03:20 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 01:00 AM)Hades Wrote:  I don't get the purpose of this manifesto.

I think what he's trying to saying that feminism is a giant conspiracy to keep our eyes off the super-rich who are using it to distract men from the fact that we are all being ruled by this elite clique.

Ergo, we are too busy fighting feminism to fight the tyrants.

Ergo, we actually do what they want us to do.

Ergo, feminists and rooshtafarians are the same. We are both pawns of The Evil Ones.

He also mentions that religion is also a tool of mass control, same way as this fake fight between feminists and patriarchists.

Unfortunately, Uncle Urkle points out what he thinks is wrong without explaining what one can/should do about it.

No, I don't subscribe to conspiracy but to systems theory. Why does this "manifesto" as you interpret it have to have a point? What offended you personally? What did I get wrong about power as it relates to game? Not one fuckin' thing you agree with in my slamming of feminism? Because you believe in the immature beta concept of God you cannot see the forest from the trees my dear sweet nephew. The concept of Oneness is as ancient as the redwoods. Ever read The Art of War or Aristotle's Poetics? Steinbeck's East of Eden? We are all interconnected. This is not the same as being similar. Every action you take has an equal yet opposite reaction with both intended and unintended consequences. For example, I intended to ruffle some femenized Toronto feathers and instead a bunch of forumers got their panties all in a knot because I dare to paraphrase Nietzsche's "God is dead" diatribe.

You want a solution? There is none except understanding that white knight fairy tales cannot save you from your impending doom. Yes, you and the feminists will die the same gruelling death. What is not equal about that? C'mon man, you can do it, swallow the red pill. Thats it. Easy now. Uncle will make it all better. Come on over to the dark side... its lighter over here.

Okay, this thread now officially belongs in the drunk lounge.

Haha! Now we're getting' somewhere.

Post: #15

(04-26-2013 08:46 AM)Purple Urkle Wrote:  

(04-13-2013 01:00 AM)Hades Wrote:  I don't get the purpose of this manifesto.
Feminists are the last people to admit that they're similar to RVFers. We want a world full of slim women worth fucking and they want a world where women have significantly more power than men - i.e, a woman's word can put a man in jail, an accusation of rape can be retroactively announced, women are legally entitled to a man's money and children without his company, being masculine is considered harassment, they are entitled to welfare, fat shaming and slut shaming are hate crimes, and that sort of shit. The problem here is that the feminists require a lot of heavy handed government intervention to sway these policies and change public opinion while RVFers need less government if anything. Feminists could give a shit less about "sex on [our] own terms", they tend to use everything including sex as political weapons.

The goals of RVFers and feminists are completely different and often contradictory. I don't even know why you'd attempt or want to bridge the gap between us. You're in cloud cuckooland, man.

I know you are but what am I? Why does everything have to have a purpose? Read it again. Your interpretation is wrong. Come on you can do it, the truth shall set you free.

I don't believe in God and never did. Probably 80% of the op is not of interest because of this. I'm with Thomas on this one, definitely drunk lounge fodder.

Post: #16

IIRC, Nietzsche's original "God is dead" observation in "The Gay Science" is part of a pithy aphorism, not a diatribe.

Post: #17

Critical difference: the manosphere stands for truth - immutable, objective truth, based in biological (and not religious!) laws. There are various degrees of freedom dispersed through its varied views, but all of them start with objective truths.

On the other hand, modern feminism relies on falsified data and spreading all sorts of lies, be they about personal sexual preferences (chicks dig nice guys, guys dig fatties, guys dig confident career women) or about the world in general (rape stats, income stats, history misinterpretation).

So I just don't see that big similarity, sorry.

Post: #18

(04-26-2013 09:02 AM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  IIRC, Nietzsche's original "God is dead" observation in "The Gay Science" is part of a pithy aphorism, not a diatribe.

Now this is relevant to the thread. I'm gonna look into this intelligent critique. I'm here to learn and if I don't understand Nietzsche as I think I do then I thank you for teaching me something new today.

Post: #19

(04-26-2013 10:22 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Critical difference: the manosphere stands for truth - immutable, objective truth, based in biological (and not religious!) laws. There are various degrees of freedom dispersed through its varied views, but all of them start with objective truths.

On the other hand, modern feminism relies on falsified data and spreading all sorts of lies, be they about personal sexual preferences (chicks dig nice guys, guys dig fatties, guys dig confident career women) or about the world in general (rape stats, income stats, history misinterpretation).

So I just don't see that big similarity, sorry.

No need to apologize. You make some good generalized points. They are making me think in some different directions. I can't discuss this shit anywhere else but here so this helps. However, humans are biologically wired to believe in God. The literature supports me on this. Feminism is rooted in asexual moral theology. That is the common connection: false belief. Whether it be the false belief in white knight paradigms of romantic love or the false belief in an all powerful God who promises eternal life for the "well behaved" it is still false and therefore anti-game. Game is a repeatable technique based on understanding human behaviour. It is a truth of sorts on how money flows and sex happens. It is not imagined, it is real.

Post: #20

(04-26-2013 12:13 PM)Purple Urkle Wrote:  Now this is relevant to the thread. I'm gonna look into this intelligent critique. I'm here to learn and if I don't understand Nietzsche as I think I do then I thank you for teaching me something new today.

Your original post looks like the ejaculate of a hedonist trying to have a threesome with Buddhism and nihilism with a limp penis.

Post: #21

Post: #22

(04-26-2013 12:32 PM)Purple Urkle Wrote:  Feminism is rooted in asexual moral theology. That is the common connection: false belief. Whether it be the false belief in white knight paradigms of romantic love or the false belief in an all powerful God who promises eternal life for the "well behaved" it is still false and therefore anti-game. Game is a repeatable technique based on understanding human behaviour. It is a truth of sorts on how money flows and sex happens. It is not imagined, it is real.

I like the way you think.

Post: #23

You are wrong. Feminism says it's about equality because "equality" sells.

In actuality, hardcore feminism is about female superiority and the destruction of masculinity.

Post: #24

(04-26-2013 01:29 PM)CombatDiet Wrote:  

(04-26-2013 12:13 PM)Purple Urkle Wrote:  Now this is relevant to the thread. I'm gonna look into this intelligent critique. I'm here to learn and if I don't understand Nietzsche as I think I do then I thank you for teaching me something new today.

Your original post looks like the ejaculate of a hedonist trying to have a threesome with Buddhism and nihilism with a limp penis.

As every antagonism is actually a compliment, I thank you. The fact that you can't actually nail down a single attack and instead ascribe to a generalized multidisciplinarian quip typed out quickly on a Dumb Phone means I am a free thinking enigma in the form of an indescribable outlaw. I do not fear you, so called "feminism," or sanctions and threats as promoted by some factions of this beautiful forum.

It is a danger to get judgemental and self-righteous about unknown people and groups in this world. Roosh, though he says it in a different style, eloquently riffs on this concept in Bang. I have a difficult time figuring out and "knowing" my family and friends and their philosophies and motives much less what ALL unknown "feminists" and trolls out there in the manosphere believe. Keep your anger in check when attacking the mercurial unknown for as The Buddha said, "Anger is like a burning coal one plucks out of the fire to cast at thine enemy... all the while searing one's own hand."

Post: #25

(04-27-2013 09:49 AM)soup Wrote:  You are wrong. Feminism says it's about equality because "equality" sells.

In actuality, hardcore feminism is about female superiority and the destruction of masculinity.

What? This makes no sense. Who are these "feminists" with these grand conspiratorial plans? I didn't think women were this smart? Which is it, are feminists smart or dumb are they weak or powerful? You actually sound fearful that they might succeed with their plans to destroy masculinuty. Very weak and narrow minded. If I am acting beta and non-manly in my life I blame no one but myself. I'm certainly not going to blame unknown "people" out there in some imagined world reality of feminist conspiracy. There is nothing weaker than giving your power of self-determination away to another. There is so much bitching and moaning on here about feminism that I offered up my four paragraphs after a year of hearing pussies rant about shit they have no control over. Tighten up your game and give up the victim mentality. Let's slay pussy not each other.