Post: #576

Just back from the gym and chatted to a couple of girls there.

The first one has the most amazing body I've seen on a girl there. Her legs are muscly but not too muscly that she looks manly, toned stomach and waist, and not massive tits or small but they suit her body perfectly. I've seen her a few times and she always has these massive headphones on her head and she always looks kind of moody. I've heard her speak as well and I always thought she was Polish because she has that kind of look about her and her voice is so, so feminine. I'd give her face an 8, and her body a 10. Some would probably disagree, but I fucking love girls with legs like hers, that's the exact kind of girl I want. One that does squats and the tight clothes she was wearing really showed how nice her legs and ass are.

Anyway, she's working out near me and my dick's telling me to go over so I do.

Me: Hey (I wave a bit too, she takes her headphones off)
Girl: Sorry? (She looks at me as if I want to take some of the equipment off her)
Me: I want to ask you something
Girl: Okay
Me: We've had like 5 minutes of sunshine and you're tanned as hell. Did you spend all weekend putting cooking oil on and sitting in the garden?
(she laughs like crazy)
Girl: Noooo! It's a sunbed, I do it every now and then when I have something coming up
Me: Ah, you're a cheater
Girl: Yeah I am! (she's smiling and eyes are dazzling now) I don't want to get too white
Me: So what, do you get like one little burst and that lasts you a year or something? I've always seen you in here all golden brown
Girl: I'm half-Greek so I tan really easily, yeah
Me: Oh okay, I always thought you were Polish
Girl: Pooolish?!
Me: Yeah, I've heard you speak a couple of times and you've got a really girly voice, I used to date a Polish girl and it's quite similar
Girl: Nooo, I'm half-Greek
Me: Alright, let's compare (I put my arm next to hers to compare tans - I don't have one but it looks the same under the light)
Girl: You're not that far off, maybe it's the light!
Me: You can't use the light as an excuse to cover your shameful cheating ways

She starts laughing again and looking at me straight in the eyes as she does so

Me: I bet if I get you outside you go white as a polar bear
Girl: Nooo I only went on the other day
Me: Ah, you Greeks, always doing something wrong
Girl: Hey! I'm only half-Greek!
Me: Yeah yeah
Girl: What's your name? (boom!)
Me: I'm Matt (I hold my hand out)
Girl: I'm Marina (she takes my hand) I work here doing the classes
Me: What classes?
Girl: I do the zumba class
Me: Well, you can't get me to do that, if you want me to shake my hips you gotta get me to a salsa class
Girl: (her eyes light up) Ohhh I do salsa classes here too
Me: Alright I might take you up on the offer some time then
Girl: It's quite feminine though, it's a lot of hip shaking
Me: I'll go do some DIY after the class then to regain my masculinity

She laughs again.

Me: Anyway, I thought I'd say hi, I'll see you around some time.
Girl: Okay, nice meeting you

We shoot each other a couple of looks and smiles for the rest of the time I'm there. My PT has seen me chatting to her and comes up to me a bit later and says one of the other PTs is fucking her but I should give it a go anyway. Gladly will. A few of the other PTs came over and spoke to me that I know and I saw her watching us as we were chatting and laughing. I've got an in next time I see her. I didn't grab her number or anything as neither of us had our phones and she'd only been there 5 minutes or so and I was leaving soon. We'll see what happens next time, I'll keep you updated as I already know how I'm gonna escalate. Funny as fuck having everyone watching me chat to her, especially like 2 minutes before when I heard 2 lads chatting about her.

Second girl was working out in the mat area with some light dumbbells. I pretended I needed them only because I couldn't think of anything else to say but my dick was raging thanks to the last girl so I felt boss and went to chat to her. If she was English, a 6, but as she was foreign she gets a +1. Hard to tell in the gym when people aren't done up but the other one had a bit of make up and was wearing nice clothes so I gave her a better score, but her face was better than this girl.

Me: Hey
Girl: Hi
Me: Are you gonna be much longer with those?
Girl: I have four sets left then you can take them (she was kind of stony faced, if anyone goes to the gym and asks someone for their equipment you'll know what I mean)
Me: Hey, es usted Espanol?
Girl: Si! (massive smile)
Me: I never meet senoritas, I like Spanish girls
Girl: Ohh, yes I'm from Spain
Me: Which part?
Girl: Bilbao
Me: Oh no, a terrorist
Girl: (she rolls her eyes but still smiling) yes, I hear that sometimes
Me: I can tell you have been in London for some time
Girl: How? How?
Me: Because you are really pale, all Spanish girls are normally golden
Girl: Yes (pronounced "djes" ), I have been here for a year
Me: And what do you think of London?
Girl: It's very nice! So fun! But sometimes I miss home
Me: I can imagine
Girl: Yes (djes), my friends come and see me sometimes
Me: I like the way you say "yes", it's very cute
Girl: Thank you (she giggles)
Me: I'm Matt (hand extended)
Girl: I'm Laura (takes hand)
Me: Oh, I knew a Spanish girl named Laura last summer. She went back to Spain though
Girl: Which city?
Me: I can't remember. Madrid I think
Girl: Yeuch!
Me: You don't like Madrid?
Girl: Bilbao is much more beautiful
Me: I prefer Valencia (I said Valenthia how the Spanish do)
Girl: Valenthia is nice
Me: Yep, my Spanish teacher last year is from there
Girl: You learned Spanish?
Me: Un poco
Girl: "poco", hehe
Me: Listen, I've got to get back. I'll use some other weights, okay?
Girl: Oh okay
Me: I'll see you around
Girl: Bye!

Again, no number close because we didn't have phones. This is only the first time I've approached girls in the gym so I hadn't worked out how to close, and need to work out how to get the number. Maybe I'll just take my phone in with me. Any suggestions welcome. I tried to time it so I could meet her outside because soon after chatting to her she left and I was about to finish too. Didn't work though and I was hoping someone I knew was sitting down at the tables by the exit so I could wait a minute and then grab her on her way out but nobody was there.

Post: #577

(04-08-2013 08:27 AM)beaversarefun Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 05:27 PM)MattC Wrote:  She stands up and I wrap my arms around her waist and she puts them over my shoulders and hold it for a second before releasing.

Nice approach. It seems like that girl was really falling for you. Have you ever thought about kiss-closing a girl at the end of a very good day-game approach?

Ive had the same kind of experience on trains, airplanes and other places, where I ended up sitting next to a cute girl, having great convos and doing some mild kino. Of course I would number-close at the end, but then sometimes I had the feeling that the girl would appreciate a seemingly innocent little kiss close as well.
While great convos will decrease the assumable flake rate, a kiss close will be much more memorable and minimise it even further, if not put it to almost zero.
On the other side, a quick kiss-close during day time might fail and scare the girl off, eliminating all work done with the approach and the convo.


Any experiences with that? Would it be worth to take the risk from time to time.

I have thought about it yeah, it's something I need to do and get on camera as well. My sets are often shorter than what you will see on youtube, normally only about 5 minutes and funnily enough out of the last 4 approaches I've got numbers from, I've taken on dates. I must be doing something right, but I think if I want to go in for a kiss close they have to be super attracted like that girl was, and it just wasn't something I was feeling, or I need to build a bit more comfort. It's one of my aims to get done in the coming months for sure though.

Post: #578

Cute girl at the coffee shop. I flirt with her sometimes, but i hadn't been in for a few months.

Her: Hey! What's your order I'll put it through first.
Me: blah, blah.
She gets my order then when she hands it to me I hold her gaze for a second and say:
Hey, I want to take you out sometime. Put your number in my phone.
She picks up the phone and starts then she says: aren't you married?
Me: nope
Her: how old are you?
Me: guess
Her: how old do you think I am
Me: 24
Her: I'm 19 and really immature, it'd never work.
Me: only one way to find out.
Her: I have a boyfriend, I'm serious, his name is xx
I smirk and just point at the phone
Her: well I like new friends
I look at her then look down at the phone
Her: ok
Then she puts her number in.

I could see her hamster was spinning like mad. I think if I can get her to go out with me I can smash.

Post: #579

(04-08-2013 10:48 AM)Ensam Wrote:  Her: I'm 19 and really immature, it'd never work.
Me: only one way to find out.
Her: I have a boyfriend, I'm serious, his name is xx
I smirk and just point at the phone
Her: well I like new friends
I look at her then look down at the phone
Her: ok
Then she puts her number in.

Like a boss! Didnt even need words.

Also, like the Vitalyzed line - 'Put your number in my phone.'

Good one.

Post: #580

(04-08-2013 10:41 AM)MattC Wrote:  Just back from the gym and chatted to a couple of girls there.

The first one has the most amazing body I've seen on a girl there. Her legs are muscly but not too muscly that she looks manly, toned stomach and waist, and not massive tits or small but they suit her body perfectly. I've seen her a few times and she always has these massive headphones on her head and she always looks kind of moody. I've heard her speak as well and I always thought she was Polish because she has that kind of look about her and her voice is so, so feminine. I'd give her face an 8, and her body a 10. Some would probably disagree, but I fucking love girls with legs like hers, that's the exact kind of girl I want. One that does squats and the tight clothes she was wearing really showed how nice her legs and ass are.

Anyway, she's working out near me and my dick's telling me to go over so I do.

Me: Hey (I wave a bit too, she takes her headphones off)
Girl: Sorry? (She looks at me as if I want to take some of the equipment off her)
Me: I want to ask you something
Girl: Okay
Me: We've had like 5 minutes of sunshine and you're tanned as hell. Did you spend all weekend putting cooking oil on and sitting in the garden?
(she laughs like crazy)
Girl: Noooo! It's a sunbed, I do it every now and then when I have something coming up
Me: Ah, you're a cheater
Girl: Yeah I am! (she's smiling and eyes are dazzling now) I don't want to get too white
Me: So what, do you get like one little burst and that lasts you a year or something? I've always seen you in here all golden brown
Girl: I'm half-Greek so I tan really easily, yeah
Me: Oh okay, I always thought you were Polish
Girl: Pooolish?!
Me: Yeah, I've heard you speak a couple of times and you've got a really girly voice, I used to date a Polish girl and it's quite similar
Girl: Nooo, I'm half-Greek
Me: Alright, let's compare (I put my arm next to hers to compare tans - I don't have one but it looks the same under the light)
Girl: You're not that far off, maybe it's the light!
Me: You can't use the light as an excuse to cover your shameful cheating ways

She starts laughing again and looking at me straight in the eyes as she does so

Me: I bet if I get you outside you go white as a polar bear
Girl: Nooo I only went on the other day
Me: Ah, you Greeks, always doing something wrong
Girl: Hey! I'm only half-Greek!
Me: Yeah yeah
Girl: What's your name? (boom!)
Me: I'm Matt (I hold my hand out)
Girl: I'm Marina (she takes my hand) I work here doing the classes
Me: What classes?
Girl: I do the zumba class
Me: Well, you can't get me to do that, if you want me to shake my hips you gotta get me to a salsa class
Girl: (her eyes light up) Ohhh I do salsa classes here too
Me: Alright I might take you up on the offer some time then
Girl: It's quite feminine though, it's a lot of hip shaking
Me: I'll go do some DIY after the class then to regain my masculinity

She laughs again.

Me: Anyway, I thought I'd say hi, I'll see you around some time.
Girl: Okay, nice meeting you

We shoot each other a couple of looks and smiles for the rest of the time I'm there. My PT has seen me chatting to her and comes up to me a bit later and says one of the other PTs is fucking her but I should give it a go anyway. Gladly will. A few of the other PTs came over and spoke to me that I know and I saw her watching us as we were chatting and laughing. I've got an in next time I see her. I didn't grab her number or anything as neither of us had our phones and she'd only been there 5 minutes or so and I was leaving soon. We'll see what happens next time, I'll keep you updated as I already know how I'm gonna escalate. Funny as fuck having everyone watching me chat to her, especially like 2 minutes before when I heard 2 lads chatting about her.

Second girl was working out in the mat area with some light dumbbells. I pretended I needed them only because I couldn't think of anything else to say but my dick was raging thanks to the last girl so I felt boss and went to chat to her. If she was English, a 6, but as she was foreign she gets a +1. Hard to tell in the gym when people aren't done up but the other one had a bit of make up and was wearing nice clothes so I gave her a better score, but her face was better than this girl.

Me: Hey
Girl: Hi
Me: Are you gonna be much longer with those?
Girl: I have four sets left then you can take them (she was kind of stony faced, if anyone goes to the gym and asks someone for their equipment you'll know what I mean)
Me: Hey, es usted Espanol?
Girl: Si! (massive smile)
Me: I never meet senoritas, I like Spanish girls
Girl: Ohh, yes I'm from Spain
Me: Which part?
Girl: Bilbao
Me: Oh no, a terrorist
Girl: (she rolls her eyes but still smiling) yes, I hear that sometimes
Me: I can tell you have been in London for some time
Girl: How? How?
Me: Because you are really pale, all Spanish girls are normally golden
Girl: Yes (pronounced "djes" ), I have been here for a year
Me: And what do you think of London?
Girl: It's very nice! So fun! But sometimes I miss home
Me: I can imagine
Girl: Yes (djes), my friends come and see me sometimes
Me: I like the way you say "yes", it's very cute
Girl: Thank you (she giggles)
Me: I'm Matt (hand extended)
Girl: I'm Laura (takes hand)
Me: Oh, I knew a Spanish girl named Laura last summer. She went back to Spain though
Girl: Which city?
Me: I can't remember. Madrid I think
Girl: Yeuch!
Me: You don't like Madrid?
Girl: Bilbao is much more beautiful
Me: I prefer Valencia (I said Valenthia how the Spanish do)
Girl: Valenthia is nice
Me: Yep, my Spanish teacher last year is from there
Girl: You learned Spanish?
Me: Un poco
Girl: "poco", hehe
Me: Listen, I've got to get back. I'll use some other weights, okay?
Girl: Oh okay
Me: I'll see you around
Girl: Bye!

Again, no number close because we didn't have phones. This is only the first time I've approached girls in the gym so I hadn't worked out how to close, and need to work out how to get the number. Maybe I'll just take my phone in with me. Any suggestions welcome. I tried to time it so I could meet her outside because soon after chatting to her she left and I was about to finish too. Didn't work though and I was hoping someone I knew was sitting down at the tables by the exit so I could wait a minute and then grab her on her way out but nobody was there.

Gym game is the one place where I have struggled so hugely.

In the country I live in people are socially isolated to begin with. On top of that, the gym is a place where people go to enjoy their alone time and seriously work on themselves.

I have found the even sparking up a harmless conversation seems like an inconvenience sometimes. But other times is fine (depends on who you go up and talk to).

Let's say you actually have your phone on you, which I never do. Then getting the whole number thing is even more odd to them. Not to mention you have every fuck in the gym staring at you and hanging on your every word.

Given the nature of people working out at the gym, most are in a routine and "going to the gym" is an activity that they fit in between other things. That being said, it is not something people have an abundance of time for. So in my experience, conversations are rather light and short.

Conclusion being that gym game = long term game in the sense that you open the gate to these hot women by casual chats. It is perfect that you eject from the conversation first as it shows you have no intention in the interaction.

I had previously written gym game off due to the lack of instant gratification but now I am going to try more of these casual social encounters.

You have inspired me.

Post: #581

Yeah it might have to be a few times I chat to her, I don't know. It's an experiment I guess.

Post: #582

(04-08-2013 10:45 AM)MattC Wrote:  Me: Oh okay, I always thought you were Polish
Me: Yeah, I've heard you speak a couple of times and you've got a really girly voice, I used to date a Polish girl and it's quite similar

Is admitting you have been watching/listening to her this much a good idea or girls really don't care if you've been noticing them and making comments about it?

Post: #583

(04-08-2013 04:04 PM)Jaylow Wrote:  

(04-08-2013 10:45 AM)MattC Wrote:  Me: Oh okay, I always thought you were Polish
Me: Yeah, I've heard you speak a couple of times and you've got a really girly voice, I used to date a Polish girl and it's quite similar

Is admitting you have been watching/listening to her this much a good idea or girls really don't care if you've been noticing them and making comments about it?

It's not too much of a problem in the situation, most people have a gym routine, so you always seem the same people in the gym at the time you normally go.

Post: #584

Nice approaches, MattC.

I gave up on number closing chicks at the gym after 5 #s going nowhere. Now I just chat up with the hotter ones, I have basically approached everyone I wanted to and try to play social circle game, but things are still slow. At worst, they are great warm-ups for rolling solo later.

Quote:Funny as fuck having everyone watching me chat to her, especially like 2 minutes before when I heard 2 lads chatting about her

+1 for social circle game. The more I chat with hot girls while everyone watches, the more the chicks' hamster that rejected me spins, even dudes began to start random convos. It's fun.

Post: #585

(04-10-2013 10:55 AM)beltoforion Wrote:  Nice approaches, MattC.

I gave up on number closing chicks at the gym after 5 #s going nowhere. Now I just chat up with the hotter ones, I have basically approached everyone I wanted to and try to play social circle game, but things are still slow. At worst, they are great warm-ups for rolling solo later.

Quote:Funny as fuck having everyone watching me chat to her, especially like 2 minutes before when I heard 2 lads chatting about her

+1 for social circle game. The more I chat with hot girls while everyone watches, the more the chicks' hamster that rejected me spins, even dudes began to start random convos. It's fun.

Thanks mate, I'm working on it. There was another girl I've seen a few times there again today, we locked eyes and smiled. She wanted me to approach but I was carrying some heavy dumbbells and couldn't, then just carried on with my workout. She left before I did, but I'll go chat to her next time I see her.

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Had a productive night tonight, got 5 numbers. 3 I'm really interested in. Went to a bar with Bojangles, the 3 numbers I got were from a Polish girl, German girl and a Slovakian girl. As I said the other day I'm looking for a European girlfriend for the summer before I go travelling as first dates and second dates with numerous girls are costing me too much money, so I need one girl I'm really into to keep me occupied. I'll write about 2 of the girls (Slovak and German), if anyone wants the info on the other 3 then just say and I'll happily post those approaches.

First girl is the Slovakian and the one I'm into most. She was the second number I got of the night. Me and Bojangles were standing the opposite side of the bar when we noticed her and her friend, and some old beta dude was trying to chat them up and failing. I wanted to talk to them so bided my time. Me and Bojangles went and sat down somewhere and 2 minutes later, they went and stood by themselves where we were standing. Fuck sake. So I went over and chatted to them.

Me: Excuse me, I wanted to come say hi to you 2.
Girl 1 (Slovak): Hello
Me: I was standing here with my friend and I saw you talking to some weird old man at the bar, and I wanted to talk to you but I had to wait
Slovak: He was nice, but he was just being friendly. He was old
Me: I'm Matt (held my hand out)
Slovak: I'm Andrea (takes my hand)
Me: And you?
Czech Republic: Michaela (she was kind of frosty and I was more interested in the Slovak, but I had to get her on my side)
Me: Where are you from?
Slovak: I'm from Slovakia
Me: Whoa whoa whoa, hang on, I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to Michaela. I asked her first

The two start giggling with each other

Czech: I'm from the Czech Republic
Me: Okay, and NOW it's your turn
Slovak: (giggling) I already told you
Me: Yes, but you told me when I didn't ask you, so now you tell me
Slovak: I'm from Slovakia
Me: Okay, okay. So what are you two crazy Europeans doing in my country?
Slovak: Looking for work!
Me: Hey! I was asking Michaela first, she comes first!

The Slovak is giggling like hell and the Czech was warming up a bit

Czech: We are the same, we're looking for jobs
Me: And what are your dream jobs?
Slovak: She is to go first?
Me: Good girl, now you understand

More giggling

Czech: I want to work in PR, it is my passion
Me: PR? Really? Of all the jobs in the world, you want to work in PR? Not like a dolphin trainer or an astronaut?
Czech: No no, PR is my passion

I wasn't getting anywhere with her so I changed my focus

Me: Okay, NOW your turn. You are so rude not being able to wait
Slovak: Hey! (with an :o face but giggling)
Czech: She is a very nice girl, you will like her
Me: She is cute
Slovak: Thanks..(going all shy)
Me: So come on, what is your dream job Slovakia?
Slovak: I want to be a travel agent, I love travelling
Me: Okay, and what is so good about travelling?
Slovak: I love seeing the world, I have been to France, Germany, Italy, England...I want to go far but for now I am happy. I need work here
Me: How long have you been here for?

The Slovak looks over to the Czech

Me: Good girl, you are learning
Czech: 2 weeks
Me: And you?
Slovak: 4 weeks!
Me: And what do you girls think of London?
Czech: I love it! It is so fun! So many things to see
Slovak: I don't really like it
Me: What makes you say that?
Slovak: The weather, you cannot walk anywhere without bumping into someone, it is so expensive
Me: Don't be so negative. (To the Czech) Is she always like this?
Czech: She's a very nice girl
Me: (looking at the Slovak) Yes, I suppose. She is very cute

The Slovak giggles, the Czech girl by now realises I'm into her friend and tries to look around away from us to give us some time to talk to each other. We talk about London and work for a bit, she's asking me questions about me, etc, etc. A couple of minutes later Bojangles comes across and no sooner than a minute later like a fucking boss takes the Czech girl away from me and the Slovak. We have time together. Boss. Top winging.

We chat about all sorts of things. Food, travelling, tv, movies, cartoons, and all that shite, and she's asking lots of questions about me. I say to her:

Me: Listen, I'm going to be up front with you. I think you are really cute and I like talking to you
Slovak: Thank you (blushing)
Me: I want to get to know you better. Put your number in my phone please
Slovak: Okay

She pulls her phone out and goes onto her Facebook.

Slovak: You have Facebook? Maybe that's easier?
Me: No, I don't have Facebook. I'm a grown up
Slovak: You don't have Facebook?!
Me: No, I used to use it but I found it boring.
Slovak: Oh okay, my number is on my Facebook. I don't remember my English number

She starts loading up her Facebook page and it's taking fucking ages. I notice it's an iPhone and show her a better way to get the number. I put it down in my phone

Me: I'm going to give you a nickname too
Slovak: Oh no, what?

I start typing and say it out loud

Me: Rude...Slovakian

She's giggling like hell

Slovak: Now I have to give you one

I put my number in her phone and she tells me to call myself "Matt the black racist" - this is because I told her I was from Nigeria and when she didn't believe me I called her racist because I'm white. Went down fucking brilliantly.

Me: I'm going to take you out some time and we can get to know each other, okay?
Slovak: Yeah okay, I'd like that

We chat some more and then ice cold Czech Republic comes in to ruin things. I tell the Slovak I'm going to text her tomorrow and leave it at that as I can't afford to lose value because of this weird Czech bitch. The Slovak is very receptive.

This was the second number I'd got of the night. I'd got a French girl's number before, and about 10 minutes later these 2 beta chodes went in to her group of friends to hit on them. About 10 minutes after I'd left the Slovak, they made their move on her. Fuck sake. They didn't get anywhere though. I spoke to her a couple of other times, once was cockblocking this tiny Asian dude who was trying it on with her. I walked past her on my way to the toilet and she stopped me "ohhh you're still here" and the Asian dude was pissed off. Haha, fuck off you little nob. I'll text her tomorrow, she's the one I want to be my girlfriend.

I got a few other numbers, one from this really sexy Polish girl. She's not girlfriend material but I'd fuck her all night long. It was 3 different exchanges with her and on the third I told her she was really fucking sexy and asked if she'd ever been with an English man. She said no as she'd never really had the chance to meet one. Kerching. If you wanna know all of the exchanges, just say and I'll write it up.

The other, the German, was as I was walking out with Bojangles. We were leaving the bar and she was walking back in from the toilets and passed us. She's wearing this tight, sexy red dress and we lock eyes and just stare at each other as we walk past one another. I turn around and stop, just watching her, and just before she goes back into the bar she turns back around to me and steps back in. Fuck it, I gotta chat to her.

I walk back inside and she's waiting by this post, almost hoping I'd come back in. I smile as I'm walking up to her and she smiles back.

Me: We couldn't just stare at each other and not talk
German: I agree
Me: I had to come say hi
German: Heyyy, you are now leaving?
Me: I am yeah
German: Ohhh
Me: What's your name?
German: Sabina
Me: Okay, you're from...

I'm looking at her trying to guess, she's impatient though

German: And your name? What's your name? (she's really attracted)
Me: I'm Matt. Where are you from?
German: Germany, what about you? You are English?
Me: No, I'm Nigerian

She laughs

German: But really? You are English
Me: Yes
German: You are leaving now though?
Me: Yes. I think you are really fucking cute and...
German: I think you are too
Me: Thanks. I want to get to know you
German: Okay!
Me: I know we haven't talked much -
German: Because you are leaving. (she's so fucking excited)
Me: Yes, we haven't talked much but give me your number and we can talk. Then we can go out sometime
German: Okay!

I give her my phone and she puts it in straight away

Me: You have your phone on you?
German: No...

I start patting her down trying to feel for it and she's giggling.

Me: Okay, I'll text you tomorrow and we can talk
German: Okay. Hang on, let me double check my number

I show her again and it's right.

Me: Alright, well I'm going to go. Enjoy the rest of your night
German: Okay, you too

I kiss her on the cheek really slowly and give her a hug before leaving. Looking back, I probably could've kissed her on the lips but ah well. I'll text them both tomorrow.

I'm interested in the Slovakian the most as a girlfriend, then the Polish girl who I really, really want to fuck and then the German girl who could perhaps be someone to date. We'll see, I'll keep you guys updated. If you want me to write down the approaches for the Spanish girl or the French girl, or all of the Polish girl then just say.

Post: #586

(04-03-2013 07:08 PM)NewGamer Wrote:  Gio, have you done the Yad stop before? How did it go? I'm opening from the side but then it's a walking and talking approach. Thinking of transitioning to the Yad stop, but Yad stop also means going direct.I'm doing direct right now but from the side.

I don't do the "Yad Stop". I don't like to jog up in front of a girl and then turn and face her. For some reason, I'm not comfortable with that.

I open from the side or slightly in front. I pretend like I was just walking past her and then spontaneously noticed her.

Sometimes I touch them lightly on the outside of the wrist or the forearm. "Excuse me", with a confident smile.

I don't have a problem walking and talking. If you want her to stop you have to direct her to stop with your words and body language.

"excuse me", (touch her arm), "can i ask you something? (Slow down) "whats your name?" (come to a stop)

Stop walking. Often times, they will follow your lead and also come to a stop. Some girls will just let you take their hand and physically bring them to a stop.

Sometimes, they will keep walking. When they do that, I might walk with them and try to re-engage or I can eject. Just depends.

I've noticed that the better I dress the more likely they will stop.

Or, I just open as I am walking alongside of her. I just pretend that we are walking in the same direction. I walk past her a few steps and then pretend that just noticed her..

"hi, how are you today?"

Then, I just walk and talk. If it goes well, I will introduce myself and then try to get her to stop so I can get her number.

"nice chatting with you, my name is gio"

her: im amanda

"nice meeting you, umm, should we exchange numbers, maybe get coffee or a drink sometime?"

This can all be done while walking.

Or, wait for her to stop. Sometimes they stop at a red light or in front of a store.

Sometimes they go into a store and you can open them in there.

"excuse me, you look healthy, can i ask you something? which lettuce is good for a salad?

Try it all and see what you like.

Post: #587

(04-03-2013 08:12 PM)MattC Wrote:  I do one of two things:

First one is running a few steps ahead of the girl, turning around to face her and walk towards her with my hand held out and maintaining eye contact. Then I'll say "hey, stop for a moment".

Second one is running up to the side of them and with the front of THREE fingers, gently pushing on the front of her arm and stepping in front of her before talking.

I do the second one. I will try the first one.

(04-07-2013 05:27 PM)MattC Wrote:  fuck it. So I walk up next to her.

Me: Hey
Girl: Heeey (she smiles)

"hey" is my favorite pick up line!

(04-07-2013 06:04 PM)NewGamer Wrote:  Don't you get rusty from not approaching?

We all get a little rusty from not approaching.

(04-07-2013 06:04 PM)NewGamer Wrote:  I'm making it a goal to do at least 1 approach everyday

1 is not enough.

Try 2-3 a day.

Somedays, you will get 5-6.

1 a day is not enough.

First 3 are like warmups.

Post: #588

(04-08-2013 08:27 AM)beaversarefun Wrote:  Have you ever thought about kiss-closing a girl at the end of a very good day-game approach?

Go for it. Go for the bang if you can. I have never pulled a girl right off ther street for an insta-day-bang but I've come close a few times.

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(04-08-2013 08:27 AM)beaversarefun Wrote:  Would it be worth to take the risk from time to time.

Fuck yes. Start with the double kiss on the cheek. Then, you can try to hold and caress her hand. Touch her playfully as you talk to her. If she responds, go for the make out.

Post: #589

I haven't really approached in a while because of not going out much, but I did so about a week and a half ago, my first approach of the night. I was at dinner with family and showed up late to a bar where my friends were already inside. About a 30 person line, and I know the bouncer is an idiot so I go to the other side where girls are smoking, 3 of them:

Me: Do you have a light (as I pull out my cig)
Girls: Yeah, here you go.
Me: How is it in there? My friends are already inside.
Girls: Not bad, we just came outside for a smoke.
(1 minute more of chit chat)
Me: Hey, so the bouncer is pretty dumb, if I just walk back in with you he'll let us in thinking I was smoking with you. Up for it? I'll buy one of you a drink in exchange.
Girls: Buy her a drink (point to the cutest one).
Me: Ok let's go.
(Lead them in, works like a charm, isolate the one that I'm buying a drink for, guide her to the bar with my hand on her lower back, she is complying).
Me: What do you want?
Girl: Vodka Soda
Me: Fitness conscious huh? Ok.
(get drinks, chit chat more)
Girl's friend: Hey I want to go now.
Me to Girl: You should stay longer
Girl: I want to but I have to drive her home.
(try to convince to stay, not happening, get her number she leaves)

30 minutes later I text her saying "(Name of bar) sucks, meet me for a drink?"
After a few texts and then a call, she agrees to meet up. Grab a drink, end up at her place after the bathroom line and get her shirt off but she denies me sex. Next date (brunch), close her afterwards.

My main goal was just to get in that night, but led to quick action and 1st date sex. I need to remember instances like this where sometimes I just get lazy and don't approach a girl, because something as innocuous as this can lead to a great result.

Post: #590

(04-08-2013 12:41 PM)gandt Wrote:  I had previously written gym game off due to the lack of instant gratification but now I am going to try more of these casual social encounters.

Exactly.

Gym game is usually a much slower game.

I say "usually" because sometimes you might catch a girl all by herself in the parking lot or all by herself in the stretching area and you can number close with no one noticing.

But, 90% of the time, gym game is "Casual Social Encounters", you said it best.

Just get on friendly terms with these girls at the gym. Get on a first name basis. Don't try to number close them the first time you talk to them. Bullshit with them. Chit-Chat with them. Build some rapport. Ask about her workouts. Talk about dinner options. Talk about whatever excites her.

Build the connection over time. Let her observe you and get comfortable with you.

When she starts smiling at you, saying hi to you, asking you personal questions, and touching you -- She is interested in you.

Thats when you can casually say, "wanna grab something to eat afterwards" or "I'm going to get a smoothie or you wanna go"

It takes some time to build that rapport.

(04-08-2013 03:30 PM)MattC Wrote:  Yeah it might have to be a few times I chat to her

Yes, "a few times".

This was only the introduction. You will see her again. Continue the momentum.

(04-10-2013 08:41 PM)slubu Wrote:  I need to remember instances like this where sometimes I just get lazy and don't approach a girl, because something as innocuous as this can lead to a great result.

Always Be Ready. Always Be Closing.

I wish you could see me now. I am 200% better then last time you saw me. (fashion+purpose) (not a shotgun approach)

Post: #591

In supermarket today, saw a girl called Sophie who worked where I used to work. She's a 7, possibly an 8 if she dressed exceptionally well, and she has hair down to the middle of her back which is nice.

She recognized me, sort of, but not to the point where she'd have stopped me. I'd had my eye on her when I worked at my old place, but never had the chance to game her as I left shortly after she began.

We were both in the pet aisle (so obviously I couldn't ask her where the pet store was ) and I asked her "It's funny, I think I recognize you, but I can't seem to place where from".

I didn't want to say outright that I knew where I knew her from, it's a DLV in my opinion as it implies I was checking her out when I worked there but never did anything about it.

She responded, saying where we both worked, and that she recognizes me (I suspect she was just trying not to be rude) and blah blah blah.

I had some general chit-chat with her then realized the window to make it sexual was going to be closing soon, so I mentioned the femininity of her hair and her posture and that I noticed it when I approached her. She was a bit taken aback so I smiled and just said something along the lines of "I'm very direct and I say what I want". However, it was daytime, so it was said with a more harmless/playful vibe than I go for at night.

Anyway, I flirted a few more minutes, just teasing her about hair (I laughed at her for waiting for a prince charming like Rapunzel) etc.

Anyway, to close, I just said "You should put your number in my phone", passed her the phone, said "because I'm taking you out next week". She laughed - put it in, I gave her a wink and we parted ways.

Post: #592

(04-11-2013 02:05 PM)Teedub Wrote:  "I'm very direct and I say what I want". However, it was daytime, so it was said with a more harmless/playful vibe than I go for at night.

Anyway, I flirted a few more minutes, just teasing her about hair (I laughed at her for waiting for a prince charming like Rapunzel) etc.

Anyway, to close, I just said "You should put your number in my phone", passed her the phone, said "because I'm taking you out next week". She laughed - put it in, I gave her a wink and we parted ways.

Good for you. You went for it.

You are still not sure exactly what you want to say, but thats okay, you wlil get better with more experience/approaches.

This is good.

You did the work. You took the action!

Keep it up!

(04-04-2013 03:52 PM)Lothario Wrote:  came back and gave the girls a kiss on the cheek (She turned Red)

I love it!

Post: #593

(04-10-2013 07:01 PM)MattC Wrote:  Me: We couldn't just stare at each other and not talk
German: I agree
Me: I had to come say hi
German: Heyyy, you are now leaving?
Me: I am yeah
German: Ohhh
Me: What's your name?
German: Sabina
Me: Okay, you're from...

I'm looking at her trying to guess, she's impatient though

German: And your name? What's your name? (she's really attracted)
Me: I'm Matt. Where are you from?
German: Germany, what about you? You are English?
Me: No, I'm Nigerian

She laughs

German: But really? You are English
Me: Yes
German: You are leaving now though?
Me: Yes. I think you are really fucking cute and...
German: I think you are too
Me: Thanks. I want to get to know you
German: Okay!
Me: I know we haven't talked much -
German: Because you are leaving. (she's so fucking excited)
Me: Yes, we haven't talked much but give me your number and we can talk. Then we can go out sometime
German: Okay!

I give her my phone and she puts it in straight away

Post: #594

Haha, I was with bojangles and we were leaving. No way was I gonna ditch him for some silly girl.

Post: #595

Today was the first real nice day of the year. So really, it was the opportunity for day game.... I went to the downtown area of my small town. There was a car show and tattoo convention going on so there were a lot of people. Unfortunately however, there were very targets walking around. Most girls in my town seem to go downtown together in groups...and I'm not good enough to open groups...during the day anyway. After walking around quite awhile, I was afraid that I would go home without doing any approaches. I even ran into my ex and a girl I used to bang..so it kind of threw me off momentarily. But I pressed on.

APPROACH 1.

I see a cute blonde kind of aimlessly wandering around. She's a blonde, looks stylish , has designer sunglasses and colorful jeans. I start following her a bit to make sure she's not with a dude..satisfied I approach with from the side and touch her arm with three fingers.

Me: "Excuse me. Can I say something?"

Her: (surprised)...Yes?

Me: I just saw you from over there, and I wanted to say you look very cute

Her: (big smile) Oh thank you..but I'm sorry. I'm married

Me: (unphased, still smiling) Oh really? What a shame...I didn't see your ring. (Its underneath the jacket shes holding) Can I see it?

She takes her hand out.. I take her hand briefly

Me: Oh, nice, but it doesn't have a diamond...Don't German wedding rings have diamonds?

Her: (still smiling) Oh, yes,.but .blah bah (I don't remember what she said)

We chit chat a bit more...she's from Austria..

Me: Oh, really? Austria huh? You must really like Almdudler (An austrian softdrink)

Her: Oh...yes...hehehe


I kind of end it there because I don't want her man coming back...but the whole interaction is positive..and I made her day. I walk around a bit more, and kind of give up on the center. I get some groceries and start heading home. In the distance I see a tall blonde approaching from the other direction. I wait for her to just pass me (she's not bad)


APPROACH #2

Me: Excuse me, can I say something? (She almost keeps going, but stops and turns) I just noticed you, and wanted to say you are really cute..

Her: (smiling) Oh thank you...

I ask her what she's up to..where's she from..She says she's from Estonia and visiting for a couple weeks.

Me: Oh, wow nice....you are the first Estonian I met..I don't know much about them...I hear the women are all very beautiful and good cooks

Her: (smiling) oh yes...blah blah

Her legs cross and she seems genuinely hooked. She asks about me and what I'm doing in this town. My confidence grows.

Me: So, what are you up to tonight?

Her: Well, my friends and I will go out later to some bars and things

Me: Really? Thats cool,..well later I'll be meeting up with some friends. Why don't you give my your number? And we can maybe meet up?

Her: Oh...no thank you (still smiling though)

I basically say oh really? Are you sure? Ok, no problem then. "Enjoy your time here".. and turn around and keep going....not sure what I did wrong here (if anything). I felt good about my body language and overall tone....possibly needed to build some more rapport. (or she has a boyfriend)

Overall, I'd say the day was productive although not particularly fruitful. I feel good about both approaches...Lets see what the night brings...

Post: #596

Don't ask her, tell her. You also always need to close on a high point where she's laughing or smiling, or showing real interest in something about you.

What I would've done is perhaps DHV'd yourself a bit more.

Her: My friends and I will go out later...

You: Oh cool, me too. I have some friends from out of town here this weekend, I'm showing them around. What bars do you go to?

Her: We'll go to x bar maybe

You: You don't want to go there, it's rubbish. How long have you been in town?

Her: I've been here for so and so days

You: So you don't know your way around. I'll be your tour guide and show you the best bars with the cheapest drinks, the best cocktails, and the most fun. I know the barstaff at x bar, they always give me free shots

Her: Okay/maybe

You: (hand her your phone) Put your number in my phone. I'll text you later if I have time

Something like that. If she doesn't know what bar to go to tonight, it's even easier to use this route.

Post: #597

At a bar last night for a birthday celebration. Finally left the table to the bar for a drink. Scoped a cute black chick, no ghetto in her, tall, slim and athletic looking, well dressed looked like a fun attitude if you are into black chicks 7.25 I'd say.

She was near the bar at first about 15 feet down with a friend. Was thinking about approaching, but then her other 2 girlfriends showed up now it's 4 girls. They go over to the dance floor and circle dance.

My dance game is not strong (read Samseau need to use that shit) although I like to dance and am good for a white guy, and I am not highly skilled in peeling chicks off larger groups yet.

So what do I do? PUT YOUR NUMBER IN MY PHONE bit, recently renditioned in those Vitaly YouTube videos.

I strolled up to the dance floor with my phone New Contact screen ready. Do a polite three tap on her shoulder while she is circle dancing. This bar is light enough and not loud or crowded enough that this wasn't awkward to stop her dance energy. I am 6'4" so she has to turn and look up a bit, being a tall girl already I know that is a pleasant surprise.

Conversation:

Me: Excuse me

Her: Hi

Me: Hey listen I noticed you here on the dance floor. I am here with friends for a birthday and we are about to leave to the next bar, and you are here with your friends, so I don't have much time to talk to you. I want you to put your number in my phone so I can talk to you later.

Her: Okay (smiles, starts punching the name in after I hand her the phone) I'm Novela.

Me: I'm Me, nice to meet you.

Her: (as she punches in the number) I'm only doing this because I like your jacket (just got my favorite leather jacket tailored to make the waist more snug, broadens my shoulders and back alot, G Manifesto tips of fly clothes - duly recognized)

Me: (brain translating that into, yeah the jacket may be fine but you just said you want dick in my mind)

Me: That's a pretty name you have. (place hand on her shoulder) You are a good dancer too. I'll talk to you soon. Bye.

Her: Bye! (smiles)


I run into her at a different bar on the same street couple hours later as I am leaving the bar. This bar is really dark. She must of recognized me before I did her because I got a bump in the back turn around as I am about to go out the door and its her and her friend heading out too.


Me: (after strong eye contact, and not 100% recognizing her in the dark bar) (smile) Hey, I talked to you earlier didn't I?

Her: Yes (sheepish smile)

*Out in the street now

Me: Well I'm gonna drive home before I am too drunk to drive home. (give her a Shooter McGavin ala Happy Gillmore pistol point hand). So I'll talk to you later.

Retarded hand gesture, yay or nay? Just one of those moves that pops out when you are on unexpected autopilot. Young laides seem to dig guys that can act half retarded sometimes, gives them a ticket to be silly and open. Or I just looked like a retard, time will tell.

Her: (strong eye contact, slight smile) I'll talk to you later (matching my tonality)

Turned around and walked off.


Could have definitely dragged her off into a different bar, still was with her friend though. Interaction previously went well enough and saw her a second time so maybe she has some dumb fate shit in her head, I didn't want to deal with a potential cockblock friend or drink anymore and get a DUI. Almost got a serious one a few weeks ago. (logistics are poor start following what Roosh et al people say) If I had logistics I could have hung with her and the friend for a bit then isolated her back to my pad. Fuck hah.

Post: #598

I thought I was kind of a witty guy. But there is no way I can beat funny native english speaker above
I guess I have to memorize funny expressions and make my own. The thing is whatever expressions you read, it's not yours till it comes out your mouth. once you say that, then it comes out natural next time.....

how do you guys borrow other people's expressions and make your own? I am not talking about pick up lines (the first comment you throw).

Post: #599

(04-14-2013 12:33 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  I thought I was kind of a witty guy. But there is no way I can beat funny native english speaker above
I guess I have to memorize funny expressions and make my own. The thing is whatever expressions you read, it's not yours till it comes out your mouth. once you say that, then it comes out natural next time.....

how do you guys borrow other people's expressions and make your own? I am not talking about pick up lines (the first comment you throw).

Not being a native is tough as far as slang and getting gestures across as easily. I would play up your accent a tiny bit maybe throw out some slang or gestures in your native language then explain what they mean right after in a playful mood to show some exoticism. People go apeshit for learning slang and gestures from other places.

I really think especially if you like younger women like me 18-23, having a little personal slang and gestures goes along way in separating yourself. It also gives them license to loosen up be silly and probably drink too much and bang you like the evil little plan you always have had at the top of your mind.

I try to take bits and pieces of people, friends, characters from film or books I like and try taking a few things from each that can add to my persona whilst maintaining a congruent nature with who I am. You know you're on the right track if you find yourself either saying them or wanting to say them in a random situation. Means you are comfortable enough will adding that piece to how you express yourself.

For instance even though I am white I tend to use some hand gestures or while emphasizing points and talking that are more loose and associated with rappers and black athletes, nothing over the top but stuff most stiff white goes won't do. No one has ever called me out for looking like a wigger (no offense to anyone) or being a retard. It is subtle enough it matches my tone and expression. Speak with some light voice mimicry and animation to emphasize a couple funny points goes along way. Just need to use it as spice and not the main ingredient or you'll be a fucking a clown.

Post: #600

Yes Gio, "hey" is a great one. I say it coolly with a deep voice and nod my head up a bit, serious look on my face. They hook straight away most of the time.