Post: #1

To the veteran players, which would be the one city you believe is best for a player lifestyle?

LA? NYC? Miami? Chicago? Las Vegas?

Post: #2

(01-01-2013 10:34 PM)stylishplayboy Wrote:  To the veteran players, which would be the one city you believe is best for a player lifestyle?

LA? NYC? Miami? Chicago? Las Vegas?

If you're 21-33
College Area in a Big City, anywhere on the globe.

Older?
Party Area in a Big City, anywhere on the globe.

WIA

Post: #3

It could be as simple as....which major city has the "easiest/sluttiest" hot women (7 and up).

For example, Dallas has a lot of hot women - but also still has a conservative culture. Expect to spend a lot before you get anywhere. They'll make you jump through several hoops.

Chicago, has a lot of fatties, and any woman above a 5.5 thinks she's the hottest thing since a hot tamale.

Vegas, basically everyone is visiting, and lots of escorts, but they are hot. Miami, similar on South beach without the escort presence.

LA, have heard mixed reviews. Some say it's easier because of the culture there, but the competition from other men is higher.

Basically, what city is known for slutty hot women. It probably cannot be quantified; since every city has hot sluts/ non sluts.

If it could be quantified...what city has the most "sexually liberated" women?

Post: #4

Unless you live in rural parts of morman country or something, all parts of America are sexually liberated with plenty of women up for casual sex. That's not even an issue. The issue is where are the best looking women combined with the best logistics and where you could have a great lifestyle?

NYC I think is the winner. Huge population, lots of high end girls and easy to walk back to your place or quick cab ride. LA has lots of high end women as well, but logistics are horrible overall because the city is like a giant suburb and everything closes early. Miami probably has the hottest girls, but unless you live in Miami Beach, it's as spread out as LA. All three of these places offer a great overall lifestyle but I think New York is the most balanced blend..

Of course any city could work for you if you have found your niche.

Post: #5

NYC, Miami Beach, Montreal are tops.

LA is too spread out, competition is the highest, scene is too skewed, the police state, the draconian smoking laws, taxes, and early last call.

Plus, the West Coast sucks for International travel.

These make LA the loser in the "Best US city for player lifestyle" sweepstakes.

It does have The Wildcard Gym though, which is my favorite boxing gym in the world.

Post: #6

(01-02-2013 03:01 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  Unless you live in rural parts of morman country or something, all parts of America are sexually liberated with plenty of women up for casual sex. That's not even an issue. The issue is where are the best looking women combined with the best logistics and where you could have a great lifestyle?

NYC I think is the winner. Huge population, lots of high end girls and easy to walk back to your place or quick cab ride. LA has lots of high end women as well, but logistics are horrible overall because the city is like a giant suburb and everything closes early. Miami probably has the hottest girls, but unless you live in Miami Beach, it's as spread out as LA. All three of these places offer a great overall lifestyle but I think New York is the most balanced blend..

Of course any city could work for you if you have found your niche.

I think all three can be equal. If you live and play in West LA, you have it pretty good logistics wise. In Miami, if you live in Miami Beach, same thing.

NYC can suffer from logistics as well if you don't live in Manhattan (which costs an arm and a leg). Many people in the outer buroughs (Queens, Brooklyn) are logistically cockblocked. There's big populations in those buroughs as well but the night scene is not really poppin for the most part. More low-key and neighborhoody and less attractive chicks than in the city.

So I think all three have the same strengths/weaknesses when it comes to logistics.

IMO, Montreal kills them all, but that's Canada. Best ratio and quality per capita. Reasonably affordable to live near the major nightlife zones. There's so many women there that you can just keep at it. If it wasn't for the harsh winters I'd probably live there year-round.

Post: #7

Another thing to consider, male competition.

It's obviously going to be higher in NYC & LA than elsewhere.

Post: #8

G's Spot on once again. Manhattan, Miami. No contest.

Post: #9

Miami, Vegas, NYC, Hollywood. Each city, you really have to narrow down the right places.

Post: #10

Since we are talking about US cities, not enough cash to leave, the answer pretty much ends with NYC.

NYC = can get a decent job, people get hammered, logistics are easy.

Are you guys putting Miami at number 2? If so what jobs pay decent down there ($100K+, cost of living is easier), from what I saw (short trips), it looks like dudes generally make 60-70 and buy shit on credit unless they are older/retired.

Post: #11

(01-04-2013 11:45 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  Since we are talking about US cities, not enough cash to leave, the answer pretty much ends with NYC.

NYC = can get a decent job, people get hammered, logistics are easy.

Are you guys putting Miami at number 2? If so what jobs pay decent down there ($100K+, cost of living is easier), from what I saw (short trips), it looks like dudes generally make 60-70 and buy shit on credit unless they are older/retired.

I kind of touch on this here: /thread-19234-...#pid340688

I do have some friends in Miami that make money, but I think it is better if you already have money or a mobile biz of some sort.

Like I mentioned in that post, there are no tech jobs to speak of. It is very different than California in that respect.

Post: #12

I just read that comment, so realistically, NYC still trumps by a long-shot, bc if you are liquid + cash rich... You can already leave the usa, no?

I guess what I'm asking is wtf do those guys do for work? Seems like successful business or random gig "getting by" making it a rough relocation option for the majority.

Post: #13

(01-04-2013 12:31 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  I just read that comment, so realistically, NYC still trumps by a long-shot, bc if you are liquid + cash rich... You can already leave the usa, no?

I think it depends on what your priorities are.

In Miami it's 72-80 in Winter. I shudder to think what it is in NYC.

Water temp is like 75. Topless girls on the beach.

Those things count for a lot in my book.

Quote:I guess what I'm asking is wtf do those guys do for work? Seems like successful business or random gig "getting by" making it a rough relocation option for the majority.

Who?

The guys I know in Miami that make money?

Or guys in Miami in general?

Post: #14

Guys in Miami in general.

I'll clarify priorities to.

1. Making/stacking money
2. Ease of girls

That's what I would view as the easiest spot wholistically, because if you have mega cash like the billionaire mentioned NYC falls on the list bc as you mentioned the weather isn't great and you are now mobile.

Finally, why would they stay in Miami with that much cash? Just go international so no reason to stay in the USA or am I missing something here.

Post: #15

(01-04-2013 12:47 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  Guys in Miami in general.

Not really sure. Like I said before, they seem pretty scratch light.

That of course is Miami guys "in general". On the other thread I was hanging with a legit Billionaire, so it obviously has wide swings.

Quote:Finally, why would they stay in Miami with that much cash? Just go international so no reason to stay in the USA or am I missing something here.

Well the Billionaire guy I was hanging with lived in Monaco in the summer, and in Miami in the winter.

Have you been to Miami?

The place makes a pretty strong case for itself.

I love girls in form fitting dresses and high heels. Miami girls wear that non-stop. Topless girls. Girls from all over Latin America. Girls from FSU. Cubanas. Euros of all stripes.

I don't know another place that delivers that. Soho maybe? But you can forget about the topless girl part. And the beach and the weather.

It is also a great place for international travel, and you are saving 10% compared to California.

Competition is lower than California and more girls. It dominates LA, OC and SD in my opinion: California Game VS Florida Game for International Playboys

Keep in mind it is an unforgiving place. The mythical "average guy with average Game" that gets mentioned on this forum all the time gets chainsawed in half in Miami. He comes up zeros.

I have written a lot of what it takes to do well in Miami.

I wouldn't even consider the place unless you are top tier in your own city.

Does a top guy from Hollywood, or Santa Monica, or Bev do well in Miami? Sure, he has a good shot at it.

Does a top guy from Chicago do well in Miami? Sure, he has a good shot at it.

Does a mediocre guy from Zanesville, OH do well in Miami? No. He gets put the thru woodchipper.

Does a mediocre guy from LA do well in Miami? No. He gets curbed stomped.

I wouldn't call Miami "easy" at all. I have to work there. But I do well there too.

Miami suits (no pun intended) my Game style really well. I have the Bankroll. I dress sharp. I think I have a look that girls respond to well here.

I speak Spanish. My French is passable (actually very key for French girls and a lot of Nightclub figures are French in Miami Beach.)

This is one Man's opinion.

Miami is the kind of place you either hate or love I think.

That has to be decided by each individual.

Post: #16

(01-02-2013 11:30 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  NYC, Miami Beach, Montreal are tops.

LA is too spread out, competition is the highest, scene is too skewed, the police state, the draconian smoking laws, taxes, and early last call.

Plus, the West Coast sucks for International travel.

These make LA the loser in the "Best US city for player lifestyle" sweepstakes.

It does have The Wildcard Gym though, which is my favorite boxing gym in the world.

So why do you still live in LA?

Post: #17

(01-04-2013 02:57 PM)jammer Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 11:30 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  NYC, Miami Beach, Montreal are tops.

LA is too spread out, competition is the highest, scene is too skewed, the police state, the draconian smoking laws, taxes, and early last call.

Plus, the West Coast sucks for International travel.

These make LA the loser in the "Best US city for player lifestyle" sweepstakes.

It does have The Wildcard Gym though, which is my favorite boxing gym in the world.

So why do you still live in LA?

Who says I am?

I haven't stepped foot in California since May: http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2012/10/the...pdate.html

Post: #18

Yeah I have been to Miami and have no clue what those guys do for work. What I gathered is it is just 60-70K a year doing some weird line of work that doesn't give you much long-term leverage. They also seem to spend stupid amounts of money on cars + clothes (relative to their income)

While I agree the quality of girls are better, it seems like you either run your own biz or are already liquid and don't worry about it so girls are higher on the priority list.

I'd rather be in a spot that is higher on the money accumulation side. If money didn't matter any more I'd be ex-pat already (all these comments are relative of course).

So overall, if you're looking to move up in biz terms it makes more sense to be in NYC, if you're already cash rich then It doesn't matter what city you are in. This sounds to be the base of the discrepancy.

I'd even live in a city in Texas - Austin, get a oil based job than live in Miami at this point, unless there was some sort of lucrative job market in Miami that I was unaware of. There is certainly a reason why housing prices are bust down there in Florida... Majority is broke.

Post: #19

(01-04-2013 04:09 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  Yeah I have been to Miami and have no clue what those guys do for work. What I gathered is it is just 60-70K a year doing some weird line of work that doesn't give you much long-term leverage. They also seem to spend stupid amounts of money on cars + clothes (relative to their income)

While I agree the quality of girls are better, it seems like you either run your own biz or are already liquid and don't worry about it so girls are higher on the priority list.

I'd rather be in a spot that is higher on the money accumulation side. If money didn't matter any more I'd be ex-pat already (all these comments are relative of course).

So overall, if you're looking to move up in biz terms it makes more sense to be in NYC, if you're already cash rich then It doesn't matter what city you are in. This sounds to be the base of the discrepancy.

I'd even live in a city in Texas - Austin, get a oil based job than live in Miami at this point, unless there was some sort of lucrative job market in Miami that I was unaware of. There is certainly a reason why housing prices are bust down there in Florida... Majority is broke.

Just curious WC, since a lot of your posts bring up the expat thing as a major goal for you...where are you considering relocating to?

Post: #20

(01-04-2013 04:09 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  I'd even live in a city in Texas - Austin, get a oil based job than live in Miami at this point, unless there was some sort of lucrative job market in Miami that I was unaware of. There is certainly a reason why housing prices are bust down there in Florida... Majority is broke.

From what I hear, Miami real estate is heating up again. I think it is one of the hottest right now. (I am not an expert on such matters).

Brazilians are buying up places (it is now cheaper for them than Brazil, as it wasn't the case back in the "Up Economy").

Miami holds a lot of allure for people. I personally think it is sick. It is a "City of The Future" for sure. Although it might not be the best place to "make" your fortune. But I could be wrong here as well. There certainly is a lot of money floating around, you just have to find a way to get your hands on it. I am sure someone as smart as you can figure that out.

This article just came out today (haven't read it yet):

The return of the cranes: Miami-Dade construction projects on the horizon in 2013

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/03/31...rylink=cpy

Post: #21

"From what I hear, Miami real estate is heating up again. I think it is one of the hottest right now. (I am not an expert on such matters)."

My friend works for Chase bank told me they are hiring 10,000 new loan agents he works in origination. If anyone needs a job and he said they're gearing up to loan here big.

Post: #22

(01-04-2013 04:09 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  Yeah I have been to Miami and have no clue what those guys do for work. What I gathered is it is just 60-70K a year doing some weird line of work that doesn't give you much long-term leverage. They also seem to spend stupid amounts of money on cars + clothes (relative to their income)

I spent 7 years in Miami. The economy is beat. Like G says, people go there with money from all over the world. I think median household income in Dade County is $43k versus where i am now (DC Metro) at $103k. There are some people making serious scratch in Dade but a lot of it is dirty. It is the US capital for insurance fraud, mortgage fraud, medicare fraud etc....

A lot of those local miami guys age 25-30 make 60K a year and live with their parents. They lease a 3 series and buy some hugo boss shirts but thats the depth of their finances.

Post: #23

(01-04-2013 04:28 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:09 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  I'd even live in a city in Texas - Austin, get a oil based job than live in Miami at this point, unless there was some sort of lucrative job market in Miami that I was unaware of. There is certainly a reason why housing prices are bust down there in Florida... Majority is broke.

From what I hear, Miami real estate is heating up again. I think it is one of the hottest right now. (I am not an expert on such matters).

Brazilians are buying up places (it is now cheaper for them than Brazil, as it wasn't the case back in the "Up Economy").

Miami holds a lot of allure for people. I personally think it is sick. It is a "City of The Future" for sure. Although it might not be the best place to "make" your fortune. But I could be wrong here as well. There certainly is a lot of money floating around, you just have to find a way to get your hands on it. I am sure someone as smart as you can figure that out.

This article just came out today (haven't read it yet):

The return of the cranes: Miami-Dade construction projects on the horizon in 2013

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/03/31...rylink=cpy

Perhaps. Call me a skeptic but I've been reading the Miami Herald everyday since 2005, it is a local propaganda machine Brazilians have been saving the economy for 36 months. In 2011 it was Brazilian shoppers flooding Bal Harbour and Aventura Mall. Things are picking up (easy to pick up from zero) but they have been printing the same article every 90 days forever. Are you familiar with the land sale of the Herald building to the Malaysian Casino company Genting? Biggest florida real estate swindle in a few years.

Post: #24

The only local dudes in Miami with serious money are the ones who work in the high-end real estate industry.

The only other major industries in Miami are the tourism/hospitality industry and the Spanish language media, and those industries don't pay well unless you are at the top.

Most of the dudes who have real money in Miami made their cash somewhere else and bought real estate in Miami. Miami is perfect for buying real estate in because Florida has no state income tax, so having a second home/condo (or hell making it your primary residence) there won't get you hit with having to pay state income tax.

Post: #25

Yea I got my job in DC and it offered work from home from anywhere in the US, so living in Sobe with my DC salary and govt benefits, im a lucky man. It took me 5 yrs of kicking ass at my job tho so it wasnt a handout.

I guess this would be ideal. Check which jobs offer teleworking.

Dont even bother asking what agency I work for, as I wont publically divulge.