Post: #176

(11-24-2012 12:03 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(11-23-2012 06:56 PM)Fisto Wrote:  Also player with a passport, elabayarde may be embellishing on his success. The driver was telling me he doesn't do well and the other brothers on the forum that came also had a hard time for various reasons. If you come here broke, you don't have any value, he was telling me guys were complaining about having to buy beers in clubs and other stuff. We are staying in decent places, when girls ask where you stay and you tell them some dump. They judge you.

When you say other brothers from the forum had a hard time here, i think i have to say something on here (i will let elbayarde speak for himself if he thinks he has to say something).

First of all, what good looking brother that is fluent in spanish wont get normal chicks in DR? DR is the last place you will complain about not getting free pussy. I mean, if you dont speak spanish, its obvious that you will only mess with semi pros or pros but when you mad fluent in spanish and you dont mind waiting 2 or 3 dates to get a bang, there is no way you will have a difficult time here in DR. The driver knows about me, i will be very surprised if he tells you that i had a hard time on here.

To other black guys on here, i wouldnt know how successful you can be in DR. Me and elbayarde are on another league, we are immersed in dominican culture like no other gringo, we speak good spanish,we are super social people, i seriously dont see how these characteristics will make you have a hard time in DR.

I think part of that pitt is that a black guy fluent in spanish is less likely to be connecting/hooking up with pro's and semi-pro's than someone who doesn't speak spanish. As such they are undoubtedly going to appear less successful because they aren't notching a new hot girl every single night.

Beyond that, lets not turn this thread into a race thread.

Post: #177

If I can quote the driver " it's not your color it's how you act"

Post: #178

Fisto and anyone else... how much easier does having a great body make it for getting typical good looking Dominican girls... obviously it helps, but how much?

Post: #179

Duh How much does it matter anyplace

Post: #180

Mechanico, so are you saying Fisto has a lot easier time getting the same or better quality girls than you and ali because of his body? You have to work a lot harder... or does your personality even things out? I don't know, so I ask instead of trying to read between the lines on these posts.

Post: #181

What mech is trying to say is that it is impossible to tell. You can't look at someone and say "body gives him a 2 point bump".

The better solution is this, hit the gym hard, get fit, see who eye fucks you once you feel good with your shirt off. From personal experience after gaining 40lbs of muscle I can say it was roughly a 1 point bump.. I believe the other 1 point was just from 3 years of extra game experience (this is just one data point).

In terms of the DR info, I have 0 doubt in fistos results based on his looks and multiple years in the game, also validated by the dudes he's with. Hope you guys all continue to pull including divorco good luck!

Post: #182

Fisto for the win mainly on person skills and learning Spanish in like 8 minutes ... Fitness wise and junk I blow him away but he's whiter than me cause not in sun like me

Post: #183

Anybody can do what Fisto did..

Just be a handsome, athletic, muscular, american white guy with solid game.

Its that simple.

Post: #184

(11-24-2012 12:03 AM)pitt Wrote:  First of all, what good looking brother that is fluent in spanish wont get normal chicks in DR? DR is the last place you will complain about not getting free pussy. I mean, if you dont speak spanish, its obvious that you will only mess with semi pros or pros but when you mad fluent in spanish and you dont mind waiting 2 or 3 dates to get a bang, there is no way you will have a difficult time here in DR. The driver knows about me, i will be very surprised if he tells you that i had a hard time on here.

To other black guys on here, i wouldnt know how successful you can be in DR. Me and elbayarde are on another league, we are immersed in dominican culture like no other gringo, we speak good spanish,we are super social people, i seriously dont see how these characteristics will make you have a hard time in DR.

I'm from the DR and I have a hard time believing a guy who can speak spanish in addition to having some familiarity with Dominicanismos, be able to dance bachata, merengue, and have some knowledge of Dominican culture can't pull, but those of different skin tones, with none of that in their arsenal, are balling out of the control.

Roosh wrote an article once about lanaguage skills and ability to pull certain caliber of women going hand in hand, I guess he was wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was some fiction sprinkled into these facts.

Post: #185

@ Ali/el mech/fisto - what is it costing you to lock down the driver?

Post: #186

Not to take anything away from Fisto, I'm sure he has great game, but it sounds like a large part of his success is due to looks. If I remember correctly didn't he say he's 6 ft 3 in. ripped to shreds, handsome white guy? I doubt that a guy with almost zero Spanish who's closer to average in height, looks, and physique would have nearly the same amount of success. I'm not trying to sound like a game denialist here, but I think this thread may give some guys a false idea about how easy it is to get laid in the D.R.

Fisto how are you running game there, I haven't read through this whole thread, are the vast majority of your girls coming from online or you having a lot of success with cold approach? You getting mad IOI's from chicks and then approaching, or are they outright approaching you? How much game is required, and how much is it that there is automatic built in attraction?

Damn I got to say that you are making it sound like a cakewalk over there, and it's peaked my interest in the D.R., but I just can't imagine that a guy like myself would have near as much luck. How are Ali and El Mech fairing, it sounds like they've both gotten their share as well.

Post: #187

To whom it may concern: Current tickets to be had out of SF to DR - $222 one-way

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #188

(11-24-2012 12:03 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(11-23-2012 06:56 PM)Fisto Wrote:  Also player with a passport, elabayarde may be embellishing on his success. The driver was telling me he doesn't do well and the other brothers on the forum that came also had a hard time for various reasons. If you come here broke, you don't have any value, he was telling me guys were complaining about having to buy beers in clubs and other stuff. We are staying in decent places, when girls ask where you stay and you tell them some dump. They judge you.

When you say other brothers from the forum had a hard time here, i think i have to say something on here (i will let elbayarde speak for himself if he thinks he has to say something).

First of all, what good looking brother that is fluent in spanish wont get normal chicks in DR? DR is the last place you will complain about not getting free pussy. I mean, if you dont speak spanish, its obvious that you will only mess with semi pros or pros but when you mad fluent in spanish and you dont mind waiting 2 or 3 dates to get a bang, there is no way you will have a difficult time here in DR. The driver knows about me, i will be very surprised if he tells you that i had a hard time on here.

To other black guys on here, i wouldnt know how successful you can be in DR. Me and elbayarde are on another league, we are immersed in dominican culture like no other gringo, we speak good spanish,we are super social people, i seriously dont see how these characteristics will make you have a hard time in DR.

PITTTTTT
Are you seriously having arguing this conversation. YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT WE do. Also, I have NOT... gotten pussy from anyone here helping me(Beside Roosh's bang) and I wrote a long responds.. but I DONT give a FUK.(so I erased it)

Im sooo tired of people trying to turn this into a color thing.

EVEN THOUGH... the DRIVER you quote... will explain directly in front of a blakito in spanish, they are not one of US. Like... because ur white american, you different than black or latino americans. So we should charge them double or triple and try to steal from them(which I caught him doing from a forum member).

It makes not one difference if I get DR pussy(NO ONE HERE HAS GOTTEN ME LAID). BUT...I have gotten multiple dudes from this forum Dominican flags(they know). But all this RACE shit is soooo offensive and its amazing to me how fast many guys jump on it.

BOTTOM LINE... IF you dont reflect the local population and culture... you will be taken advantage of. Step ur guys game up. Learn about mirroring body language, the next level stuff. Stop talking about color. If you ask me... that should be banned JUST LIKE ALL THE WHERE SHOULD BLACK GUYS GO TO GET PUSSY THREADS.

But...White dudes who dont speak spanish, will definitely have more access to Dominicanas than two morenos from latin America who can blend in this country.
The same way white dudes do in the states.

NOTICE.... the driver prefaced u getting girls on money.... He is leading you. THis dude is running game on you guys. I know him well. He not a charity type dude. But he will openly say in spanish... he charges different prices to blakitos. Im just a little tired of the color shit on this forum. Especially when its not TRUE.

Post: #189

I may have fell victim to trolling BTW.... and I admit that if its true. But hey it happends.

Post: #190

(11-24-2012 03:29 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(11-24-2012 12:03 AM)pitt Wrote:  First of all, what good looking brother that is fluent in spanish wont get normal chicks in DR? DR is the last place you will complain about not getting free pussy. I mean, if you dont speak spanish, its obvious that you will only mess with semi pros or pros but when you mad fluent in spanish and you dont mind waiting 2 or 3 dates to get a bang, there is no way you will have a difficult time here in DR. The driver knows about me, i will be very surprised if he tells you that i had a hard time on here.

To other black guys on here, i wouldnt know how successful you can be in DR. Me and elbayarde are on another league, we are immersed in dominican culture like no other gringo, we speak good spanish,we are super social people, i seriously dont see how these characteristics will make you have a hard time in DR.

I'm from the DR and I have a hard time believing a guy who can speak spanish in addition to having some familiarity with Dominicanismos, be able to dance bachata, merengue, and have some knowledge of Dominican culture can't pull, but those of different skin tones, with none of that in their arsenal, are balling out of the control.

Roosh wrote an article once about lanaguage skills and ability to pull certain caliber of women going hand in hand, I guess he was wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was some fiction sprinkled into these facts.

Exactly

Plus we are not the typical dark skin black male. Im a mullato. I dont even want to be bragging on here but im the last guy in DR that you will say that is not getting laid. Anyway, thats not even an argument, im out of here.

Post: #191

(11-24-2012 04:28 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Not to take anything away from Fisto, I'm sure he has great game, but it sounds like a large part of his success is due to looks. If I remember correctly didn't he say he's 6 ft 3 in. ripped to shreds, handsome white guy? I doubt that a guy with almost zero Spanish who's closer to average in height, looks, and physique would have nearly the same amount of success. I'm not trying to sound like a game denialist here, but I think this thread may give some guys a false idea about how easy it is to get laid in the D.R.

Fisto how are you running game there, I haven't read through this whole thread, are the vast majority of your girls coming from online or you having a lot of success with cold approach? You getting mad IOI's from chicks and then approaching, or are they outright approaching you? How much game is required, and how much is it that there is automatic built in attraction?

Damn I got to say that you are making it sound like a cakewalk over there, and it's peaked my interest in the D.R., but I just can't imagine that a guy like myself would have near as much luck. How are Ali and El Mech fairing, it sounds like they've both gotten their share as well.

I see what you mean, but in his situation as you said it's much different,
this is just what I gathered from his posts,

he has the body of a mma fighter

he's got great wingmen and company with Mech and Ali

he's picking up español very well & if he get's stuck with the lingo the driver can help him out

he's got alot of dosh to spend, and always has a place for the ladies to go back to

he's an American, he's polite with women, buys them food and drinks, and offered cab home money,

so basically, he will always win, which is great, and for the fellas who are no as fortunate to be in his position, have to find other way to strengthen themselves and the situation around them, bit like me really, lol

Post: #192

landing in Santiago tonight, anyone around pm me.


and those of you whining about why people get laid, go to a mystery method forum for that, don't ruin this thread.

Post: #193

I'm a little confused.

Everyone on here uses the same taxi cab driver when the go to DR?

I have read like 4 or 5 people reference "the driver" and just want to make sure im understanding this correctly.

Post: #194

I don't know why I didn't find this thread until now, but I came home from a bar last night and read the entire thing. Simply awesome.

Post: #195

Damn you guys....I only said something to Playawithapassport because I don't want him buying a ticket soley off of the reports of elabayarde.

British Dude summed it up for my game. I can make myself understood now in Spanish. The translator on my iphone is a huge help and the driver is indespensible right now.

VP - It's the same guy Ali had.

Elabayarde and Pitt, The driver is not "gaming" us. That's fucking stupid. The guy goes where we tell him. He puts up with a lot of drunken shit and is always getting our backs. I've already described how he is helpful and several times I've just realized that "wow, we couldn't do this without this guy here". He answers our phones and tells girls what we want him to. He does damage control when we piss them off. He assists us when we need him to and stays the fuck out of our way when we don't. Hell he just went out and got me a coffee while I'm typing this.

As far as your success, you two guys are banging girls that are substandard or nonexistent or you're getting numbers that lead to nowhere. RVF members come here to get accurate reports and intel on a place to travel. You two guys are misrepresenting your actual game levels and quality of girls. I've heard you're both nice but I'm not going to endorse your experiences or recommend a member spend hard earned money based on your reports and chest thumping. For example, elabayarde talks about being able to dance bachatta or whatever better than natives. In the words of a completely different Dominican guy "I said show me, he couldn't dance two verses". End of story.


RVF members, Roosh wrote awhile ago about traveling abroad with unrealistic hopes regarding the quality of girl you will get. If I remember right he said you can expect to get 1 or 2 points above what you normally would in the states and that's if things are going well. I believe that is still true but here there is a bit of a stigma with having darker skin and being poor or "low class". Even though there are some black as they come dudes with more money than God, that is a belief here.

My reports are reflective of my experience, Ali and Mechanico, and the other's I've met here will validate that.

I'm sure we will revist all this stuff, I tried to keep it respectful. Anyway, Last night:

Ali's girl is fine. She's a girl I'd consider dating. She's sweet, thoughtful, loving, and puts up with his drunken nonsense. She came over and was supposed to bring her younger sister but she was by herself. I had just had the 70 year old player tell this little 19 year old girl that I wasn't free but would be tomorrow (we gave the driver the night off since we took him with us for 2 days up to Santiago) so I was a little irritated. She came and apologized and said she was just a little worried for her sisters. The old player told her not to worry and so she brought out her phone and showed me two of them and asked me which one I liked. I told her "Me gusta nina on deracha" and she said "oooh! muy buono" or something.

Both sisters show up a little while later, mine is dressed like she just got out of bed in some absurd little outfit. She was wearing a pink tube top and aqua tights. She looks 16 but get's ID'd at the desk when we go inside.

We all go up to Mechanico's room to have a couple drinks and take photos with Divorco's camera (Divorco came in the day before). They love it. Ali tell's them I was on a soap opera back in the states for a couple episodes and my girl starts cooing and puts her hand on my knee.

We are planning to run Mechanico's logistic game. Basically, go to the casino, give the girls a couple thousand pesos to spend on roulette, order comped food and drinks, then bounce them back to the hotel that's around the corner where we are staying. We walk over and my little shy girl is starting to show her true sassy colors. At first she doesn't know what to do or how to bet and is very tenative but in a very short time we've created a monster, she's running through pesos left and right, it's funny to watch. The fucking drinks ARE NOT coming as they should be and Mechanico is getting pissed. I am too, we're on this table by ourselves for almost 2 hours spending a lot of money cumulatively and these fucking people aren't lifting a finger. The girls seem oblivious though and are having fun. Finally we get some more drinks and my girl tells her sisters to shut up when they ask her to go, she's addicted haha

We are all hungry and didn't get the food we should have and I point out that staying to argue for comped meals and drinks is essentially cockblocking ourselves so we go to the little cafe next to the Hotel and order food.

The 70 year old player comes by and gives us a lesson on what real 3s company game is. Ali is even a little worried the guy is going to steal a girl! I remind him the dude is fucking 70 and he calms down. I'm rubbing my girls pussy through her tights.

This guy is speaking in badass spanish, is making all these stupid fucking facial gestures, big sad faces, big stupid smiley faces and the girls are clapping and laughing. None of it is funny but it's a window into what the bitches here find humorous.

We finish dinner and go back to Mechanico's room and continue to have fun. I tell Ali's girl that "Me cuarto es 207, el's es 208" and wink at her. She goes "aaaaah" and smiles and so I take the sister to my room and we start going to town.

She let's me rub her pussy but won't let me pull down her tights, I just lay back and unbuckle my pants, she's saying no no no but as soon as I whip my dick out she's blowing me. Ali's girl has to go soon so she is trying to make me cum. I want the pussy so I pull her off and start going after her little pussy. Guys, this girl has super pink lips, I thought she had on some lip gloss but she just wet her lips. Her pussy is just as pink, I mean almost glowing pink. It's tight and I'm rubbing it with my cock when BANG BANG BANG, the other fucking sister is at the door.

Long story short, we were interrupted but as soon as I see her again it's on.

All in all it's a mild night.

I've got this little med school chick meeting me in a couple hours. I've been blowing her off because she's nothing special to look at but I'm not feeling like working very hard right now and she really likes me.

My plan is to ditch her around 10 to meet up with the 19 yr old girl.

Guys sorry for the misspelled words, missing words, and wrong words. I'm writing all of these reports in one sitting when I have the energy and unless I notice a mistake right away, I don't edit it.

Post: #196

(11-24-2012 01:52 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  divorco good luck!

Thanks.

El Mechanico said he had problems with a blown tranny. Later he claimed it was a car transmission, not a transexual. Let's just say poor decisions can leave a bad taste in your mouth. Ask Mechanico what "going primal" means. Ask Ali about "meltdowns".

Post: #197

(11-23-2012 06:59 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  I'm also loving the reports from the DR coming here. Good job guys, specially Fisto. Mechanico and Ali are also cracking me up. I'd love to roll with these guys. Btw, I'm getting quite curious too about the DR and am tempted to come join you guys sometimes in Jan/Feb. Are you guys still going to be in DR by then?

Fisto, how much are you paying for the driver? IS that the same one that Ali was using? it's an awesome idea to have a driver with you guys at all times. Maybe that's something we should also be doing when we get to Russia next year in the fall as opposed to driving ourselves as the local knowledge and contacts the driver would provide would be absolutely priceless. Also, how much is a decent place to stay at near the action in the places you guys are going? Just to get some rough idea.

(11-23-2012 06:37 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I think Ali/Mech have to invest in a RVF headquarters based in DR.
I am sure there are enough takers on here, I went to DR years ago but this thread is making me want to re-visit.

Ali - how much longer are you going to stay there?

We are paying the driver around 50 bucks per day. A decent place is going to be around 65 to 90 bucks a night. This place isn't "cheap" which is what I was saying earlier about not showing up broke and expecting to bang decent girls. You factor in food (I eat a shit load) booze and gas etc. it adds up.

Post: #198

(11-24-2012 12:57 PM)Fisto Wrote:  Damn you guys....I only said something to Playawithapassport because I don't want him buying a ticket soley off of the reports of elabayarde.

Elabayarde and Pitt, The driver is not "gaming" us. That's fucking stupid. The guy goes where we tell him. He puts up with a lot of drunken shit and is always getting our backs. I've already described how he is helpful and several times I've just realized that "wow, we couldn't do this without this guy here". He answers our phones and tells girls what we want him to. He does damage control when we piss them off. He assists us when we need him to and stays the fuck out of our way when we don't. Hell he just went out and got me a coffee while I'm typing this.

As far as your success, you two guys are banging girls that are substandard or nonexistent or you're getting numbers that lead to nowhere. RVF members come here to get accurate reports and intel on a place to travel. You two guys are misrepresenting your actual game levels and quality of girls. I've heard you're both nice but I'm not going to endorse your experiences or recommend a member spend hard earned money based on your reports and chest thumping. For example, elabayarde talks about being able to dance bachatta or whatever better than natives. In the words of a completely different Dominican guy "I said show me, he couldn't dance two verses". End of story.


RVF members, Roosh wrote awhile ago about traveling abroad with unrealistic hopes regarding the quality of girl you will get. If I remember right he said you can expect to get 1 or 2 points above what you normally would in the states and that's if things are going well. I believe I believe that is still true but here there is a bit of a stigma with having darker skin and being poor or "low class". Even though there are some black as they come dudes with more money than God, that is a belief here.

Did you see the girls that im pulling? Did the driver meet any of the girls i was pulling? Both no. Actually on my posts here i have always said that i only care about the body, body wise im extremely happy with the quality of women im banging and it cant get any better. I have never said anything about the quality of girls im banging on here, actually i know there are only few guys on this forum who like the type of women i like.

Taking numbers that are leading nowhere? Dude i dont care how much game you have, there is no way you will bang more chicks than me during your stay here..you stay here 14 days, i tell you how many chicks i fucked on my first 14 days here and im sure you wont beat that record. And dont go the p4p route. I think is disrespectful for you to be attacking other members like that on the forum and you trying to make it sound as if black dudes here wont have any success which is not true at all. Actually as i have said on the other thread, as long as you dont look haitian or african and you are black, you shouldnt have problems pulling women here (actually not even sure if this is entirely true, i have met nigerians brothers here who are fucking like crazy). I have also met many brothers from the US who are doing well with the local women, specially the ones studying medicine here, they speak spanish and they have no problem pulling women. Did you know that a dominican girl from a good family dont even want to be seen in public with a white guy because she knows people will think she is a pro?

I seriously hate this "black man wont do well in x country''. You have game, you get laid everywhere you go and this is heaven for black guys, period. International swagger came here and also had a great time. If you do well in your home country,this is the last country in the world you will complain about pulling girls.

Post: #199

Pitt, you have a reading comprehension problem. I accurately described the stigma here and I'm writing it because it needs to be known before someone chooses to come here based on your reports. I'm writing it because I actually give a shit and want fellow members to do well.

No girls are afraid to be with a white guy unless the guy looks like an old piece of p4p shit. That goes for any color. P4P is common around here so everyone is suspected of that when a foreigner is around whether true or not.

Guys reading this, pay attention to this statement by Pitt " i know there are only few guys on this forum who like the type of women i like".

So I reiterate my earlier statement, you are banging substandard girls. Don't come here bragging about banging chicks that no one else would fuck with your dick. If you're happy with that more power to you, but since "Most" guys wouldn't find them attractive your reports aren't very helpful. Sorry you can't see that value matters.

Post: #200

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I seriously hate this "black man wont do well in x country''. You have game, you get laid everywhere you go and this is heaven for black guys, period. International swagger came here and also had a great time. If you do well in your home country,this is the last country in the world you will complain about pulling girls.
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Dude you are the only one making this about color.I'm far from racist so dont take this the wrong way,but Black(african americans) tend to do this a lot.

Also from here on out nothing you write about I will take serious. How can you say "this is heaven for black guys" and get mad when someone brings up color,you are the one bringing the shit up.

Also I'm Dominican and the fact that you say DR is heaven for black men says a lot LOL ,im 100% sure you arent doing as well as you say.

I'm out,fisto ali and emech kill it brothers.