Post: #26

Has it also been your experience that polish girls date more than one man simultaneously?Do you think Ukrainian or polish girls ask more often for money?You think the game polish women play is more complex than the one Ukrainian women play?For example you become more angry on polish,on ukrainian,on Russian or on Serbian girls?

Post: #27

(08-28-2012 04:04 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Has it also been your experience that polish girls date more than one man simultaneously?

No. I think is rare here. Polish girl in serious relationship wouldn't dare to date someone else, so unless you are not a drinker and you treat her right you can be sure that she will be devoted to you.

(08-28-2012 04:04 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Do you think Ukrainian or polish girls ask more often for money?

Unless you are in a serious relationship with Polish girl, she will never ask you for any money, ofc I'm not saying say that this things can't happen here, but is not as common as in Ukraine, we've all been through "I need a new underwear, I want to look special just for you".

(08-28-2012 04:04 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  You think the game polish women play is more complex than the one Ukrainian women play?For example you become more angry on polish,on ukrainian,on Russian or on Serbian girls?

Russian & Serbian women - straight up, tell you how it is, almost no mind games and that's what is like about it

Ukrainian women - between RUS & POL type, it's a situational thing

Polish women - most complex of the four, their frequent changes of mood are irritating, and often a girl who seems to be DTF at first, after a while will blow you away for no reason (at least you don't know why), but that's from polish perspective, maybe the case witch foreigners is different

Post: #28

Hahaha, Balkan power

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Nov 23, 2007, 10:30 PM

"What are Serbian men like? I am Canadian now living in Florida and just started dating a Serbian man. Any thoughts? "


Nov 27, 2007, 7:36 AM

"As a Serbian-American woman, I can tell you that the Serbian culture is EXTREMELY patriarchal. I guess it depends on how sensitive you are to that kind of thing, and how liberal you are. Keep in mind that calling someone a feminist is, in most circles, in Serbia an insult. Feminists are lesbians, according to Serbs, and calling someone a lesbian is certainly an insult in Serbia as well. Like I said, not all Serbs think this way, but this is the general cultural view of these sorts of things. Perhaps your man is an exception, or perhaps you yourself are in agreement with these views, I am just providing information. Also the vast, vast majority of serbian men DO NOTHING around the house. That is they do not lift a finger as far as keeping house, cooking and childcare is concerned even in very progressive households, even when both partners are working outside of the home."


Nov 27, 2007, 4:27 PM

"Thanks for the info! We'll see how things go. "


http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g29...grade.html

Post: #29

(08-29-2012 04:59 AM)polish rumble Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 04:04 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Has it also been your experience that polish girls date more than one man simultaneously?

No. I think is rare here. Polish girl in serious relationship wouldn't dare to date someone else, so unless you are not a drinker and you treat her right you can be sure that she will be devoted to you.

(08-28-2012 04:04 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Do you think Ukrainian or polish girls ask more often for money?

Unless you are in a serious relationship with Polish girl, she will never ask you for any money, ofc I'm not saying say that this things can't happen here, but is not as common as in Ukraine, we've all been through "I need a new underwear, I want to look special just for you".

(08-28-2012 04:04 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  You think the game polish women play is more complex than the one Ukrainian women play?For example you become more angry on polish,on ukrainian,on Russian or on Serbian girls?

Russian & Serbian women - straight up, tell you how it is, almost no mind games and that's what is like about it

Ukrainian women - between RUS & POL type, it's a situational thing

Polish women - most complex of the four, their frequent changes of mood are irritating, and often a girl who seems to be DTF at first, after a while will blow you away for no reason (at least you don't know why), but that's from polish perspective, maybe the case witch foreigners is different

Yes,polish women play lots of mind games this has been my experience as well.Also they are largely unpredictable.I am suprised they do not ask for money from Poles.Maybe they are ashamed to ask,I do not know.This show polish guys have a better grasp on them.
So you find Serbian similar to Russian women?Interesting.
Generally who do you think are higher maintenance?Polish,Ukrainian,Russian or Serbian?My experience has been that the highest maintenance are the Russian ones.
Also who are better in sex in your experience?Many claim Ukrainian girls are quite mechanical and others that Russian lack passion in bed.Others say polish are inexperienced.What do you think?

Post: #30

(08-29-2012 06:53 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  So you find Serbian similar to Russian women?Interesting.

Simple situation: you are approaching a girl in Moscow or Belgrade, If she doesn't like you, or you are not in her type, she will tell you straight up: "listen your game/looks sucks", "I'm taken", "this won't work" etc. and you know that game's over, and in Poland even if she doesn't like you, or she's not into you, she can pretend and keep the conversation going so you can think that everything is cool, and after a while she will end up with lame excuse, or politely reject you, or blow you straight up away, but I have no idea why? It's just a part of their games and I got used to it.

(08-29-2012 06:53 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Generally who do you think are higher maintenance?Polish,Ukrainian,Russian or Serbian?My experience has been that the highest maintenance are the Russian ones.

I'd say the same.

(08-29-2012 06:53 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Also who are better in sex in your experience?Many claim Ukrainian girls are quite mechanical and others that Russian lack passion in bed.Others say polish are inexperienced.What do you think?

I think that generally speaking Slavic women lack passion in bed, they can be horny, but they mostly just lay in the bed rigidly like a piece of wood, expect you to deliver it. I can bet that women from the south are better in bed. Frankly, best sex of my life I had in UK.

Post: #31

(08-29-2012 12:09 PM)polish rumble Wrote:  

(08-29-2012 06:53 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  So you find Serbian similar to Russian women?Interesting.

Simple situation: you are approaching a girl in Moscow or Belgrade, If she doesn't like you, or you are not in her type, she will tell you straight up: "listen your game/looks sucks", "I'm taken", "this won't work" etc. and you know that game's over, and in Poland even if she doesn't like you, or she's not into you, she can pretend and keep the conversation going so you can think that everything is cool, and after a while she will end up with lame excuse, or politely reject you, or blow you straight up away, but I have no idea why? It's just a part of their games and I got used to it.

(08-29-2012 06:53 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Generally who do you think are higher maintenance?Polish,Ukrainian,Russian or Serbian?My experience has been that the highest maintenance are the Russian ones.

I'd say the same.

(08-29-2012 06:53 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Also who are better in sex in your experience?Many claim Ukrainian girls are quite mechanical and others that Russian lack passion in bed.Others say polish are inexperienced.What do you think?

I think that generally speaking Slavic women lack passion in bed, they can be horny, but they mostly just lay in the bed rigidly like a piece of wood, expect you to deliver it. I can bet that women from the south are better in bed. Frankly, best sex of my life I had in UK.

So you confirm all the stereotypical notions.I have found that Ukrainian and polish girls try hard to satisfy you in bed but they lack sth.Generally indeed they just stay passive and open their legs or turn to the side and grind to you.Slavic BJ for some reason can be rather good.
With polish girls is how you describe it she flirts with you despite being taken and you never know how it will end.Do you know it is a sign of spontaneity from the polish women's part or they just like to play?(aka making bf upset,steering their mood,exploring boundaries,getting other sources of support etc).Or have they been taught not to reject anyone from second one because it is not polite?

What are the main adjustments one has to do in his approach when dealing with polish vs Ukrainian vs Russian women?Can the same things work on every part or he needs to appear for example more aplha towards Ukrainian,more aloof towards Russian,more romantic towards polish?
Generally I see we see a lot of things the same with Poles and this surprises me.
Another question is do you find in general that Ukrainian girls can play the same games as polish girls regarding talking to you despite them not being attracted?I have not found this to be the case.Also who is more mentaly and emotionaly stable?Polish,Ukrainian or Russian girls?I think Ukrainian are the most unstable of all with extreme fluctuations of mood and temper.

Post: #32

Hey... is there any reason why I should not go to Belgrade for 3 months January - March. Does it suck in the winter time?

Post: #33

(10-10-2012 03:11 PM)gadabout Wrote:  Hey... is there any reason why I should not go to Belgrade for 3 months January - March. Does it suck in the winter time?

January should be good, it's Orthodox Xmas and New Year. I work in the adult entertainment industry and travel to Belgrade from time to time. Great city.

Post: #34

Thanks for the data sheet. Although I mostly did daygame there, I did two nights out. One in Havana Club (a salsa night, I stayed at the bar chatting to girls and didn't dance) and one in the nightclub boats. My thoughts:

- I found the guys friendly and fun. Never got cockblocked once, nor any aggression.
- Quality of women is slightly higher than Zagreb. Only Estonia comes close in my experience. But you have to like the tall, slim, long black hair, slavic look. They all dress the same.
- About 80% speak English well enough to have a decent conversation
- Opening and hooking is easy, closing is very difficult
- Most girls have a boyfriend of long standing. You can still get them, but it's a tough ask
- The girls usually have excellent social skills and good education
- Coffee shop culture goes on late at night and is everywhere. An easy place to start indirect.
- Street stops are easy. Unlike Sarajevo, you don't feel like everyone is watching you
- Girls are not likely to be walking around solo towards the evening, they like to go in pairs or threes

First time in Belgrade, I got an SDL and a few bouncebacks (one I laid the next trip, another is stacked up for next trip), plus several idates and Day 2s. Probably did a total of 25 approaches.

Second time I was there only a few days. Got laid once, one idate, and got a new girl to date. Did about 12 approaches, all daygame.

It's not the promised land but a nice place. Basically it's the same as Zagreb but with a Russian flavour rather than European flavour.

And no, you don't need to spend a penny on the women or buy them mobile phones.

Post: #35

Thanks for the input Krasuer. I have a hit list of places with the most beautiful women but who are equally as hard to crack. Sounds like Belgrade is another one to add. I will go there next after my jaunt in Russia and Ukraine.
Like your blog btw.

Post: #36

Why do you consider Russian men psycho in clubs late at night? Vodka?

Post: #37

(08-27-2012 06:51 PM)Roosh Wrote:  My gut instinct is that it will be very similar, that clubs are tough and you need to focus on day game or hipster bars where girls are easier.

Even in the hipster laidback bars in Belgrade, you're still going to see some amazing bombshells that will be a little more approachable. I'd really focus on the pre-game wine, martini, dinner type places for drinks before hittng the clubs as convos can be a little more prevalent amongst strangers. I'd recommend this cool place called Blowup Bar btw in Belgrade. Some hotass women in there on say a laidback Monday night as well.

Excellent data sheet on Beograd btw Polish Rumble. As an Asian guy, I stuck out like a sore thumb in Belgrade but faced very little or absolutely no attitude from locals. Every guy was shocked an Asian dude was visiting the city so they wanted to be my best friend, wingman me, buy me drinks, and even ask me to join their table if I was eating alone somewhere wanting to know more about me.

As for the females, they were conversational, maybe a little less curious than the guys, and I was only blown off by females that had no English skills whatsoever...by blown off..was acknowledged, but it was more due from shyness opposed to some Hungarian model-esque chick speaking some English with B-shield written all over her. ONS are exponentially tougher than say Poland as it's likely not going to happen. I will say top notch style, your best clothing, and attitude will get you somewhere combined with staying there for a long time while having good male/female friends that should make getting that flag much easier. Yes the chicks do prefer more macho looking local dudes so as a 5-9 Asian guy, I'm likely just going to be that cultured guy who can dance/have fun bc there is no way I can out macho the Serbs, haha.

The toughest places I've encountered traveling are definitely Budapest and Belgrade, but I enjoyed the vibes of people more in Serbia and would rather go through the struggles of finally capturing a flag there for say 2-3 weeks than get lucky with a Hungarian chick with a vibe I just don't feel. Belgrade is also cheaper with better dining/nightlife options as the people overall are more open to ppl like me opposed to very clique-ish Hungarians. Budapest is a far superior city overall for the average tourist but I was extremely miserable there staying 5 nights.

Another fun fact is that Montenegrin chicks are fat, ugly, macho looking so lots of Montenegrin guys will go for Serbian chicks instead.

As for what Rumble also said...dating dating dating dating is everything as learning local words can't hurt either.

Post: #38

I tend to agree and am starting to think really hard about how worthwhile EE is in general due to it's approach to sex. It's a lot of hard work for not a great deal of return. Been in CZ for a while now and have had some crazy romps with French, Norwegian and English girls. EE girls just seem to pail in comparison when it comes to raw passion.
The problem is I am just a sucker for model types so am prepared to sweat blood and tears. At the end of the day I get the same kick out of sleeping with a really hot looking girl who just ok in bed as I do with an English girl who wants me to take her up the wrongen.

Anyway Im going to Belgrade now to put myself through more pain and misery

(08-29-2012 06:53 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Also who are better in sex in your experience?Many claim Ukrainian girls are quite mechanical and others that Russian lack passion in bed.Others say polish are inexperienced.What do you think?

(08-29-2012 06:53 AM)Polish rumble Wrote:  I think that generally speaking Slavic women lack passion in bed, they can be horny, but they mostly just lay in the bed rigidly like a piece of wood, expect you to deliver it. I can bet that women from the south are better in bed. Frankly, best sex of my life I had in UK.

Post: #39

GREAT report, with video no less!....+1

Looks like they have come a long way and grown mentally over there, the ones here in AUS are still neanderthals and have not outgrown the wars in the late 90's and religion issues way before that, some still are living in the Tito era!

As recent as Sunday night after the Australian Open tennis, which Djokovic won, you could see all the Serbian flags, no doubt to stick it right up all the other Yugos, in particular Croatians, as in the past at this tennis event they have had fights between them lot.

I still call them Yugoslavs, only the Croatians and Macedonians take offence, you get a good spraying for calling them that, bit of sport on my part...lol

REALLY good at cooking steaks, i mean REALLY, REALLY good

"Lifes about, shooting your load"

Post: #40

what are the best sites for pipelining Belgrade?

Post: #41

I've spent some time in Belgrad last springtime and ended up having big respect for serbian men. If they gave you just a nasty eye contact and didn't hold it, it's because they don't have any interest in wasting their time and energy fighting with you. Not because they are pussy.
Remember that Serbia is the european country that most had to deal with war in the last decades. They don't give a shit about arguing with you as you talk to their women, they come from an enviroment where some of their mothers or aunts were raped by albanian men and many of their fathers or uncles were killed in the balcan conflicts.
I noticed how much politeness they use to foreigners who visit their country: serbians are happy you are there, and they wanna show you that they are not those bad guys all the world think they are (they lost the war, so everybody thinks *they* are the bad ones)
Serbian men have probably the most beautiful girls in Europe, reliable and respectable too (serbian girls are mostly faithful). Men don't need to stick on girls, they trust them, and they know you won't bring a girl home only because you talk to her at the club.
If you cause a problem with a girl, they don't come for a fight, but rather talk with you and try to settle the argument pacifically. Again, not because they are pussy, but because they are now enjoying their "peace" stretch of time (already knowing that sooner or later there will be another conflict, since Kosovo issue has not been solved) and don't wanna spoil it fighting with tourists for stupid reasons.
I would add though, that if you are a cool and nice guy with some value, they would be happy to see you together with their sisters or female cousins.

[quote='polish rumble' pid='258527' dateline='1346082635']
Ok, I must admit, a Serbian guy with game is macho. But so what? I was approaching many hotties and all I got from guys was (sometimes) nasty eye contact, but when I looked back they couldn’t even hold it. However I’ll never forget when talking to a girl, suddenly a guy came out of nowhere, started asking her something, then walked away. When I asked the girl who was that guy and what was it all about, she replied that it was her brother, sort of checking out on her, but she told him that everything’s fine.

Post: #42

Welcome to Balkans the rockabilly region of Europe.

Post: #43

(02-27-2013 04:57 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  Welcome to Balkans the rockabilly region of Europe.

you mean like this... ?

Post: #44

I mean explosion, adventure, fast speeds and danger.The blood boils here as they say.

Post: #45

^^^ but isn't that true for young poeple from any country? we have "rockabillies" here in the USA and they are always getting into fights with outsiders wherever they go, get drunk/high and love fast cars/bikes/chicks. we have a saying: "young, dumb, and full of cum."

Post: #46

I don't know why is that but Balkan people like to live dangerously.They regard Westerners as rather boring and predictable.We also have a temperament and sometimes it can be mental especially in the case of Serbs.They are like the alter ego of Greeks but I cannot explain it very well. (they incorporate what a Greek would like to be sth like that).

Post: #47

^^^ would this wild behaviour allow Americans to pick up Serbian chicks ?

Post: #48

I love Serbian women, probably my favorite. Nice data sheet.

Post: #49

In Poland they call us the wild lands (dziky kraj).

Post: #50

Don't know if it was already mentioned: Check the the budget airline wizzair for cheap flights to east european places: http://wizzair.com

Just booked my flights to Belgrade for half the prize I could get on skyscanner.