Post: #26

I guarantee that blonde on the right with the the Robo-chin is the easiest to pull back to your place. I seek out them Leno-lite chins on females now because they are raging way more with hormones then their friends. They fuck a lot, they know how to fuck well, and they are down. At first you kinda do a double look and cringe, but once you get that broad naked its all the same shit. The men whom shy away from that just make it easier for me! Aye!

Post: #27

(06-07-2012 09:57 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  Would bang all but the last one

I'm a big fan of the high cheekbones and small chin chipmunk looking females.
I like dimples and milky white skin too. I'd probably be in heaven in Sweden

(06-07-2012 10:04 AM)trainwreck Wrote:  About the 'husbands dont care if their women fuck around' thing.. lol, I highly doubt that. Divorce rates are high but then again, there are a lot of unmarried parents too.

It was something I heard from a friend that was in the military and spent some time in Sweden.
Take it with a grain of salt.

Post: #28

Would rawdog all of them. Anyone who says otherwise should read this: http://www.travelsexlife.com/2012/06/a-p...in-athens/

Post: #29

(06-07-2012 10:33 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  Would rawdog all of them. Anyone who says otherwise should read this: http://www.travelsexlife.com/2012/06/a-p...in-athens/

Rio keepin it real again. The rest of you guys who rate those girls as borderline fuckable are clowns. +1 for Rio and sorry for fucking this thread up.

Post: #30

As someone who has lived in Sweden most of his life and also studied in Lund, which has been mentioned on another thread, I thought I could offer my thoughts on girls in Sweden and later on Lund in particular.

First of all, the pictures posted ealier in this thread are a fairly accurate representation of what you see on the ground if you disregard the immigrant chicks (which I believe are about 10% of the total population). Out of the countries I’ve been to, Swedish girls definitely rate below Argentinian and Colombian girls. I have never really been blown away in Sweden like I was in Buenos Aires or Bogotá. Sweden is probably among the best countries in the world, just not at the very top IMO. Growing up I believed the hype of Swedish girls and thought they were the most beautiful in the world. At one point I even thought what’s the point of travelling… well, I know better now. Keep in mind though that I’m blonde myself so this might actually be influencing my opinion. Some people will prefer a Swedish blonde girl to a Latina, Asian, African, Slavic etc. So I don’t want to disillusion anyone.

The culture is pretty cliquey in Sweden and social circle is very important, similar to how I found Argentina was. Also, society has become more segregated now I think. Clothes and dressing well is important and are thought to convey social status, especially in the bigger cities. There is a culture of pre-drinking and generally people drink a lot of alcohol. On the week-ends many people go out to get drunk and IME a large segment of the girls are pretty slutty (will get to that later). The level of flakiness really depends on the girl and it’s pretty widespread but not every girl is flakey obviously.

I will even go so far as to say that when you factor in their personalities and behaviour, in my opinion, a lot of Swedish girls I’ve stumbled upon resemble American girls minus the widespread obesity (Sweden has had a LOT of influence from American culture). A lifetime of experiences and observations tell me optimal game is alpha (bad guy) game. Sure, there are exceptions to every rule but still, in most cases being yourself and nice will make it harder for you to get most girls. I’m sorry, but whenever anyone of my game denalist friends claim otherwise, I tell them they would have a better chance of convincing me the sky is red. Swedish girls themselves will tell you that they want a nice guy though, if I wasn’t such a computer illiterate I would insert the laughter and hamster logic pictures here.

I have made the obvious conclusions from the fact that you are punished for treating girls well and rewarded for treating them badly, while trying to lookout for the rare nice girls who doesn’t deserve that. Basically, my life pre-game I was shy and relied on luck or drunk game. I had some respectable and occasionally even very good results no doubt, but not consistently. I feel that I will absolutely kill it now when I get my game up to speed again, though. A few months after I started game my results sky-rocketed, (then I went abroad and just recently came back).

Post: #31

1st pic-I'd devastate her.
2nd pic-devastate, devastate, smash
3rd pic-devastate, devastate, doggy style

Post: #32

(06-07-2012 11:14 AM)solo Wrote:  As someone who has lived in Sweden most of his life and also studied in Lund, which has been mentioned on another thread, I thought I could offer my thoughts on girls in Sweden and later on Lund in particular.

First of all, the pictures posted ealier in this thread are a fairly accurate representation of what you see on the ground if you disregard the immigrant chicks (which I believe are about 10% of the total population). Out of the countries I’ve been to, Swedish girls definitely rate below Argentinian and Colombian girls. I have never really been blown away in Sweden like I was in Buenos Aires or Bogotá. Sweden is probably among the best countries in the world, just not at the very top IMO. Growing up I believed the hype of Swedish girls and thought they were the most beautiful in the world. At one point I even thought what’s the point of travelling… well, I know better now. Keep in mind though that I’m blonde myself so this might actually be influencing my opinion. Some people will prefer a Swedish blonde girl to a Latina, Asian, African, Slavic etc. So I don’t want to disillusion anyone.

The culture is pretty cliquey in Sweden and social circle is very important, similar to how I found Argentina was. Also, society has become more segregated now I think. Clothes and dressing well is important and are thought to convey social status, especially in the bigger cities. There is a culture of pre-drinking and generally people drink a lot of alcohol. On the week-ends many people go out to get drunk and IME a large segment of the girls are pretty slutty (will get to that later). The level of flakiness really depends on the girl and it’s pretty widespread but not every girl is flakey obviously.

I will even go so far as to say that when you factor in their personalities and behaviour, in my opinion, a lot of Swedish girls I’ve stumbled upon resemble American girls minus the widespread obesity (Sweden has had a LOT of influence from American culture). A lifetime of experiences and observations tell me optimal game is alpha (bad guy) game. Sure, there are exceptions to every rule but still, in most cases being yourself and nice will make it harder for you to get most girls. I’m sorry, but whenever anyone of my game denalist friends claim otherwise, I tell them they would have a better chance of convincing me the sky is red. Swedish girls themselves will tell you that they want a nice guy though, if I wasn’t such a computer illiterate I would insert the laughter and hamster logic pictures here.

I have made the obvious conclusions from the fact that you are punished for treating girls well and rewarded for treating them badly, while trying to lookout for the rare nice girls who doesn’t deserve that. Basically, my life pre-game I was shy and relied on luck or drunk game. I had some respectable and occasionally even very good results no doubt, but not consistently. I feel that I will absolutely kill it now when I get my game up to speed again, though. A few months after I started game my results sky-rocketed, (then I went abroad and just recently came back).

Great post solo. I studied in Uppsala one year when I was 21 in the late 90s, and I was pregame also. That is why Roosh should do well there. I am sure it has changed somewhat, but the guys who were slaying it there were southern europeans with game. I banged about 7 swedish girls that year but that is chump change compared with what you can do as a dark haired confident man with game. Now, you would just need to calibrate your game, so as no to appear so American and not speak as much. Liberal Clint Eastwood game would work fine.

Post: #33

I think it was Pdog who mentioned he wanted to go to Lund as an interchange student. In Lund you probably want to try to get a room at Malmoe Nation, which is where some of the best parties/clubs are. A nation is kind of like a fraternity/sorority, which used to be assigned to each of the major diasporas of students moving to Lund (nation=people) , but which has now people from everywhere. They vary a lot in style and the kind of people frequenting (posh people, alternative people, conservatives, communists etc). Personally, I found the whole nations culture childish and just felt like it was high school all over again. It is true that Lund University is kind of an Ivy League university but it's generally much easier to get into. Basically, Lund is like a bubble in many ways, partly because it is so centered around the university.

Social cirlcle is huge in Sweden and so is having the right clothes and style so you need to put a lot of effort into this. You’ll pretty much have zero extra value as an exchange student in Lund, but it can be overcome with tight game.
Most girls in Lund, and that studies at universities in general, are very career-oriented and not so feminine. Other adjectives that I would use to describe the typical Lund girl are shallow, ego-centric and slutty. Of course there are exceptions. Depending on what you study, you might run into a lot of feminists. Correct game is cave man “put-them-in-their-place” game.
Also, I realise this might seem odd but I’ve run into a lot of girls who clearly seemed to have ADD or some similar condition, you can just tell they’re not mentally stable.

In Lund there are a lot of possibilites due to the high alcohol consumption of the girls though (another unfeminine trait). According to a study female students have now had twice as many sex partners (on average 11) as ten years ago. 11 to me sounds very high for a woman of any age, then consider that the average age in this survey was 23. Also, only 50% used condom the first time they had sex with a new partner and almost a third had had an STD. (Does all this ring a bell?) Bottom line, a lot of student girls are sluts and while I personally hold a prostitute in a third world country in much higher esteem since she is doing it out of necessity, there is another side to this coin which you can take advantage of (personally it’s gotten to the point that if I were looking for a girlfriend/future mother of my kids here I would consider a university education a big minus because of the exposure to feminism and sluttiness).

My personal experiences with student girls in Lund confirm this (that they don’t use condoms). It’s important to say that of course not all girls are going to be like this but it is the general trend IME. I realise maybe my post will come across as a case against going to Lund which is not my intention, but the saving grace will be the sluttiness of the girls and the relative ease at which you can get sex there (which at the same time disqualifies most of them as girlfriends).
When I lived in Lund I wasn’t into game and basically approached a grand total of zero girls during my 4-5 semesters there. I still relied on luck and drunk game, but thinking back on that time now, I think I still did alright. Partly because I met this smoking hot immigrant chick who lived in Malmoe (slim, double Ds, sexy ass etc).

Post: #34

(06-07-2012 11:47 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  Great post solo. I studied in Uppsala one year when I was 21 in the late 90s, and I was pregame also. That is why Roosh should do well there. I am sure it has changed somewhat, but the guys who were slaying it there were southern europeans with game. I banged about 7 swedish girls that year but that is chump change compared with what you can do as a dark haired confident man with game. Now, you would just need to calibrate your game, so as no to appear so American and not speak as much. Liberal Clint Eastwood game would work fine.

Thanks. I think if you have Roosh’s level of game you can do very well in Sweden, the only thing working against him would be his relatively short time here. Also, SOME girls might not like Middle Eastern-looking guys so he should probably make it clear that he’s American from the off (I agree it could work against him but it could also help him with SOME girls) while saying positive things about Obama could also help. To be very blunt, it is probably better to say you have Iranian roots than Turkish ones. Anyway, when you are an expert at game your appearence and nationality will matter less.
Some posters here claimed that Swedes think American people are cool. It is true in some respect and many Swedes still think of the US as the place to be. (We have historically been very critical of US foreign policy though, rightfully so IMO, especially during the Vietnam war and other such wars. This is not to say Sweden is completely innocent itself, it has sold weapons to third world countries which have been used to kill innocent civilians which is very wrong but up until Afghanistan we didn't start our own wars for a long time, only rightfully defended ourselves and our neighboors. Personally, some of the nicest people I’ve met while travelling have been Americans and it is very easy for me to get along with them, it’s just I do have a problem with US imperialism. I will happily discuss this in another thread but let's not derail this one).

I will do my best to answer if anyone has any questions...

Post: #35

(06-07-2012 11:48 AM)solo Wrote:  I think it was Pdog who mentioned he wanted to go to Lund as an interchange student. In Lund you probably want to try to get a room at Malmoe Nation, which is where some of the best parties/clubs are. A nation is kind of like a fraternity/sorority, which used to be assigned to each of the major diasporas of students moving to Lund (nation=people) , but which has now people from everywhere. They vary a lot in style and the kind of people frequenting (posh people, alternative people, conservatives, communists etc). Personally, I found the whole nations culture childish and just felt like it was high school all over again. It is true that Lund University is kind of an Ivy League university but it's generally much easier to get into. Basically, Lund is like a bubble in many ways, partly because it is so centered around the university.

Social cirlcle is huge in Sweden and so is having the right clothes and style so you need to put a lot of effort into this. You’ll pretty much have zero extra value as an exchange student in Lund, but it can be overcome with tight game.
Most girls in Lund, and that studies at universities in general, are very career-oriented and not so feminine. Other adjectives that I would use to describe the typical Lund girl are shallow, ego-centric and slutty. Of course there are exceptions. Depending on what you study, you might run into a lot of feminists. Correct game is cave man “put-them-in-their-place” game.
Also, I realise this might seem odd but I’ve run into a lot of girls who clearly seemed to have ADD or some similar condition, you can just tell they’re not mentally stable.

In Lund there are a lot of possibilites due to the high alcohol consumption of the girls though (another unfeminine trait). According to a study female students have now had twice as many sex partners (on average 11) as ten years ago. 11 to me sounds very high for a woman of any age, then consider that the average age in this survey was 23. Also, only 50% used condom the first time they had sex with a new partner and almost a third had had an STD. (Does all this ring a bell?) Bottom line, a lot of student girls are sluts and while I personally hold a prostitute in a third world country in much higher esteem since she is doing it out of necessity, there is another side to this coin which you can take advantage of (personally it’s gotten to the point that if I were looking for a girlfriend/future mother of my kids here I would consider a university education a big minus because of the exposure to feminism and sluttiness).

My personal experiences with student girls in Lund confirm this (that they don’t use condoms). It’s important to say that of course not all girls are going to be like this but it is the general trend IME. I realise maybe my post will come across as a case against going to Lund which is not my intention, but the saving grace will be the sluttiness of the girls and the relative ease at which you can get sex there (which at the same time disqualifies most of them as girlfriends).
When I lived in Lund I wasn’t into game and basically approached a grand total of zero girls during my 4-5 semesters there. I still relied on luck and drunk game, but thinking back on that time now, I think I still did alright. Partly because I met this smoking hot immigrant chick who lived in Malmoe (slim, double Ds, sexy ass etc).

Raw dogged with the 7 girls I banged in Uppsala, but only 2 were summer beach sluts. Also 15 years ago, the average number of sex partners for the normal university girl would have been half of what you detail in Lund. Americanization has not skipped any western country.

Post: #36

(06-06-2012 05:39 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  1st pic 3/10
2nd. 4,3,4
3rd. 4,3,2

Would not hit!

I'd smash them all. Sweden is on my 'to-do' list.

Post: #37

Some final words on feminism in Sweden. Discovering Roosh’s blog and this forum has been a absolute eye-opener and I’m seeing things from a completely different perspective now.

It's common to read newspaper articles and the like by feminists who whine about imagined injustices etc. Regularly you hear women calling for affirmative action, and their beta-orbiters join in hoping that it will help get them laid which is hilarious. Recently, there was also this introduction of the word hen which spurred a lot of debate in the country (a gender neutral word to supplement the words for him and her). My personal take is that it is ridiculous for many reasons but really it’s no different from tendencies in Spanish now to write for instance Estimados y Estimadas instead of just Estimados which implies both sexes, or that French town which banned the word Mademoiselle. I’m gonna make it a point to use the equivalance of Miss more in my personal vocabular though. Will be interesting to see what reactions I get.

Anecdote 1: In Lund I once got into an argument with a feminist who claimed that the sexes were a social construction and that there was no such thing as men and women, citing a lactating man in Canada and some other biological anomalies as proof. Feminism is absolutely rampant in most institutions/departments at Lund university and while there are this kind of girls in Lund, they tend to keep to themselves (Lund is pretty segregated that way).

Anecdote 2: In 2009 a tv documentary about Swedish Hollywood wifes created a lot of debate because of what Anna Anka, then-wife of Paul Anka said:

“If your husband wants you to give him head every morning, the first thing when he wakes up, you have to follow his wishes” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytpScb_uc...re=related (starts at about 2:10).

Basically, hell broke loose because this woman describes pretty much every man’s *ideal* marriage and lot of feminists were shocked and upset, obviously threatened by the fact that there are women willing to please men, which means they’re facing competition and won’t be able to starve their men for sex anymore. I rue that I had not yet discovered Roosh or Heartiste back then and wasn’t really paying attention to it all, would have made for some epic discussions.

I just realised how hard it is to accurately trying to describe all the cultural aspects of a place. I feel that what I’ve written isn’t maybe 100% spot on, but it will have to do.

Post: #38

(06-07-2012 11:14 AM)solo Wrote:  I will even go so far as to say that when you factor in their personalities and behaviour, in my opinion, a lot of Swedish girls I’ve stumbled upon resemble American girls minus the widespread obesity (Sweden has had a LOT of influence from American culture). A lifetime of experiences and observations tell me optimal game is alpha (bad guy) game. Sure, there are exceptions to every rule but still, in most cases being yourself and nice will make it harder for you to get most girls. I’m sorry, but whenever anyone of my game denalist friends claim otherwise, I tell them they would have a better chance of convincing me the sky is red. Swedish girls themselves will tell you that they want a nice guy though, if I wasn’t such a computer illiterate I would insert the laughter and hamster logic pictures here.

I have made the obvious conclusions from the fact that you are punished for treating girls well and rewarded for treating them badly, while trying to lookout for the rare nice girls who doesn’t deserve that. Basically, my life pre-game I was shy and relied on luck or drunk game. I had some respectable and occasionally even very good results no doubt, but not consistently. I feel that I will absolutely kill it now when I get my game up to speed again, though. A few months after I started game my results sky-rocketed, (then I went abroad and just recently came back).

I think a lot of this can be applied, but to the right kind of girls. I've been seeing a 'nice' type of Swedish girl lately and I can tell you from conversations with her that even her hot friends don't bang around that often. I do run 'good non-judgemental guy' game with her, but I have a lot of value, fuck her good and I tease her about going out to hit on other girls constantly.

She has a solid 8 friend who hasn't hooked up with anyone for over half a year, which is an insanely long time considering how good looking she is.

At the same time, she has a friend who I'd consider a 5.5 that from the words of my girl "had a time where she'd go home with anyone at the bar"

From what I've seen in Sweden it's that its a certain percentage amount of sluts banging a lot of dudes, while the creme de la creme selects who they bang around with quite closely. I think Roosh posted some statistics about this in Denmark.

Post: #39

Sweden had a lot in common with Denmark.

Pictures posted earlier are top tier. I'm in a bar where the hottest girl is macedonian.

Post: #40

(06-07-2012 05:52 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Sweden had a lot in common with Denmark.

Pictures posted earlier are top tier. I'm in a bar where the hottest girl is macedonian.

Interesting. I assume you are in Stockholm? How many bars/clubs have you been to there?

There are a lot of people who have hyped up Sweden. Are you saying the hype is unjustified?

Be interesting to get your take on Sweden since I had wanted to travel there.

Post: #41

I feel like girls who are not Swedish, but hang around Swedish girls and/or grow up in Sweden, get better looking because of that Swedish influence. This is based on my experience working in the international student office of a few colleges.

Post: #42

Hmm Roosh you seem to dislike Sweden, but how is it compared to DC? You mentioned Denmark being as bad or even worse than DC so I'm curious to see how Sweden stands.

Post: #43

(06-07-2012 05:52 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Sweden had a lot in common with Denmark.

Pictures posted earlier are top tier. I'm in a bar where the hottest girl is macedonian.

Sorry to hear that. I was actually quite interested in the idea of finding out about jarring differences between Swedish and Danish chicks.

Post: #44

(06-07-2012 08:56 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 05:52 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Sweden had a lot in common with Denmark.

Pictures posted earlier are top tier. I'm in a bar where the hottest girl is macedonian.

Interesting. I assume you are in Stockholm? How many bars/clubs have you been to there?

There are a lot of people who have hyped up Sweden. Are you saying the hype is unjustified?

Be interesting to get your take on Sweden since I had wanted to travel there.

Assuming he is in Stockholm, he's more than far way enough to discount Danish influences in Scania. Damn. No seriously, Damn.

Post: #45

(06-07-2012 11:48 AM)solo Wrote:  I think it was Pdog who mentioned he wanted to go to Lund as an interchange student.

Thanks for the specific info dude +1 Saved it all for future reference.

Post: #46

I've been mostly bar/club hopping to do research, but here's what I can say so far:

1. The top end is amazing. Swedish 8s and 9s are in a class of their own. But there are not too many of them.
2. Not a whole lot of 7s.
3. 90% of girls are 6s and below. They are chubby and borderline sloppy dressers, though they have better faces than Denmark.
4. Swedish people have a certain look and face. There isn't a lot of variation.

There are a lot of fatties, surprisingly. In Finland there weren't as many.

Quote:Hmm Roosh you seem to dislike Sweden,

Not at all, just still trying to figure out what type of game will be needed for a 7.

It's not as bad as Denmark, but in a couple spots I've been in that were sausage fest with chubby girls, it sure did feel like Denmark.

On the bright side, girls are pleasant and friendly. They love that I'm American (even guys get excited). I'm not getting into verbal battles like Denmark. But at night it's hard to find targets that are approachable (not in a big group with guys) and that pass my boner test. I get the feeling that I will have to do quite a bit of work to get a decent flag.

Post: #47

(06-08-2012 06:14 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Not at all, just still trying to figure out what type of game will be needed for a 7.

Actually my sample size is too small, as I've spent very little time in Sweden since I became game-aware. But for example, simple and persistent dance floor game should see some results sooner or later. Maybe Vicious who's more experienced can tell you. I stand by that alpha/beta is an important aspect though (as opposed to non-Western countries, which you've pointed out), but perhaps it's more important in social circles.

(06-07-2012 11:47 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  Great post solo. I studied in Uppsala one year when I was 21 in the late 90s, and I was pregame also. That is why Roosh should do well there. I am sure it has changed somewhat, but the guys who were slaying it there were southern europeans with game. I banged about 7 swedish girls that year but that is chump change compared with what you can do as a dark haired confident man with game. Now, you would just need to calibrate your game, so as no to appear so American and not speak as much. Liberal Clint Eastwood game would work fine.

Seven girls a year is very good in any country I would say. I have not seen any southern Europeans slaying it here though.

Post: #48

(06-08-2012 07:16 AM)solo Wrote:  Seven girls a year is very good in any country I would say. I have not seen any southern Europeans slaying it here though.

lol, I'm on 12 girls for this year already and I'm quite sure this isn't even a high number for most guys with good game


Roosh, check out Cafe Opera, Berns or F12 tonight. Before 0.30, check out soap bar. Should be insane.

Post: #49

(06-08-2012 06:14 AM)Roosh Wrote:  I've been mostly bar/club hopping to do research, but here's what I can say so far:

1. The top end is amazing. Swedish 8s and 9s are in a class of their own. But there are not too many of them.
2. Not a whole lot of 7s.
3. 90% of girls are 6s and below. They are chubby and borderline sloppy dressers, though they have better faces than Denmark.
4. Swedish people have a certain look and face. There isn't a lot of variation.

There are a lot of fatties, surprisingly. In Finland there weren't as many.

Quote:Hmm Roosh you seem to dislike Sweden,

Not at all, just still trying to figure out what type of game will be needed for a 7.

It's not as bad as Denmark, but in a couple spots I've been in that were sausage fest with chubby girls, it sure did feel like Denmark.

On the bright side, girls are pleasant and friendly. They love that I'm American (even guys get excited). I'm not getting into verbal battles like Denmark. But at night it's hard to find targets that are approachable (not in a big group with guys) and that pass my boner test. I get the feeling that I will have to do quite a bit of work to get a decent flag.

The best place for swedes is probably outside of sweden. Mediterranean islands, or places like Ko Phi Phi thailand, TONS of hot scandinavians on that one in particular.

Post: #50

Roosh has confirmed my suspicions. 90% of the girls are average and below. The few hot swedes that you find are the reason why Sweden has the reputation it does, because they are out of this world.
I hoped that by going to the source there would be more good looking ones. Swedes on holiday are generally very low quality in my experience.
There was a ridiculously cute swedish girl in a bar with and ENglish guy last night. Petite, tight fitting dress with an ass to rival that of Colombia or Brazil. When you find them they are the prime specimen of a women.