Post: #8201

Makes sense. I do it every two months for that very reason, but still feel like there’s that knowing effect. Weird thing is There’s a few same people that always swipe right me each time I make an account. Almost like they’re swiping every single day. Makes me think they have some specific niche...

Post: #8202

(05-06-2019 11:22 AM)Checkmat Wrote:  

(05-05-2019 09:42 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  

(05-05-2019 01:15 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  Changed my main pic to a suit and tie photo with a good camera, from a wedding. Match rate has gone up a lot.

Had 3 dates in the last 3 days. First one was while I was out of town for a conference. Was straight up about my transient status and it bothered her a ton. Got a little make out but no more.

Number 2 was local to my town. She is a nurse and was on-call so she didn’t drink. Sober date while we ate some bar food. Had my hand around her hip, good kino and eye contact. She suggested a second date at the end and had a little make out.

Third was an easy one. 38-year old filipina, great body with a plastic-surgery face. Suggested a same-night date after some convo, on a Saturday no less. One round of drinks at a fancy winery, bounce to my place for round two. Slight resistance but nothing major. She was super nervous and giggly. Big fake tits and a nice yoga body for her age. Hit it raw twice before taking her back to her car.

All of these dates were set up within 60 minutes of matching

I was very impressed by your post until I reread it and noticed the bolded part.

I cannot remember the last time I met a 28 year old woman I wanted to fuck and definitely have no interest in a 38 year old.

How old where the other 2 girls?

It's important that we all share info like this about the girls we go after on tinder.

3 dates in 3 days sounds very impressive but NOT if your targeting old women who are less desirable and thus of course easier to meet with as they have less options.

I only targeted 18-21 when I was on tinder

The other two girls were 24 and 33, respectively. Both were bangable 6's.

I have no qualms about older women IF they look good and have tight bodies. The 38-year old had a great body and I was very pleased by it. It was a very enjoyable experience. Her body was the best of the three girls.

I also bagged my last LTR, a 20-year old, from Tinder about a year ago. I've written about that on here before.

Overall, I definitely prefer 18-21 but if I only target that age group, I will be limiting myself when there are perfectly acceptable older girls out there that look great and are totally fine for me to FWB up.

To each their own. I'm glad there are guys like you who don't bother with girls over age 28. Makes them easier for guys like me who wouldn't kick them out of bed for having a few wrinkles and miles on them.

yeah bro, keep fucking these 28+ girls if you find pleasure in that.

but to be honest, I'm the complete opposite.

Girls in their 30s might as well be men; i literally dont notice them, they are invisible to me.

I cannot remember the last time i had an interaction with a woman in her 30s; i have no interest in them at all.

And really that goes for most girls 25+.

I strongly prefer and and actively seek out girls 18-21 for sex 99% of the time.

I have no issues with 22-24 but beyond that its really kind of rare for me to even interact with those girls.

I cannot even imagine myself kissing a woman in her 30s, i get grossed out just thinking about that.

But yeah, to each his own, if they make your dick hard and you enjoy the sex then yeah for sure keep doing; but i want girls 18-21 and i find them much easier to fuck with night game compared to tinder.

Post: #8203

(05-06-2019 04:23 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Read an interesting report about a tech-savvy guy who tried to assess the algorythm.

He claims that extremely good-looking men are pushed upwards in the matrix and appear more often to women while the metric is lowered for average or below average guys. The reason is because they want to keep the few women still interested in the app, so they automatically promote guys who get more likes, so that they get even more promotion. Meanwhile those that don't receive enough likes are obviously lowered in in the algorythm since women would leave the app if they saw too many unattractive mugs.

It's funny that they even have to tweak those number even to the greater detriment of the average man - heck - even the good-looking 7-8 looks guy will be blown out of the water by the few 9-level looks men.

Sorry but this is BS.

I'm definitely not a 9, I'd give myself a 6 or a 7. I'm also in a suburb which is god awful for game -- my workplace, gym, and BJJ place are 99% male. I still got something like 20 matches every day since I made my Tinder (Sunday), had girls complimenting my photos, messaging me first, and handing out their numbers. These girls weren't all stunners but they were generally bangable. I had a date on Thursday that ended in a makeout and a couple more in the works for this week.

This is just this week, over my lifetime I've had maybe 15-20 hookups from Tinder and met an LTR who I dated for over a year.

I also lead a pretty solitary life, small and close social circle, don't use Instagram, and am not the stereotypical "dark triad alpha male".

The point of this isn't to masturbate about how good I am at online dating, the point is Tinder is a very viable option for a lot of men. You literally need one decent quality picture and passable text game to have at least some success.

Post: #8204

(05-07-2019 01:26 AM)Klan Killer Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 04:23 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Read an interesting report about a tech-savvy guy who tried to assess the algorythm.

He claims that extremely good-looking men are pushed upwards in the matrix and appear more often to women while the metric is lowered for average or below average guys. The reason is because they want to keep the few women still interested in the app, so they automatically promote guys who get more likes, so that they get even more promotion. Meanwhile those that don't receive enough likes are obviously lowered in in the algorythm since women would leave the app if they saw too many unattractive mugs.

It's funny that they even have to tweak those number even to the greater detriment of the average man - heck - even the good-looking 7-8 looks guy will be blown out of the water by the few 9-level looks men.

Sorry but this is BS.

I'm definitely not a 9, I'd give myself a 6 or a 7. I'm also in a suburb which is god awful for game -- my workplace, gym, and BJJ place are 99% male. I still got something like 20 matches every day since I made my Tinder (Sunday), had girls complimenting my photos, messaging me first, and handing out their numbers. These girls weren't all stunners but they were generally bangable. I had a date on Thursday that ended in a makeout and a couple more in the works for this week.

This is just this week, over my lifetime I've had maybe 15-20 hookups from Tinder and met an LTR who I dated for over a year.

I also lead a pretty solitary life, small and close social circle, don't use Instagram, and am not the stereotypical "dark triad alpha male".

The point of this isn't to masturbate about how good I am at online dating, the point is Tinder is a very viable option for a lot of men. You literally need one decent quality picture and passable text game to have at least some success.

these sound like really good results for someone who admits is a 6 physically.

I'm somewhere between a 7.5 and an 8.5 physically maybe even a 9 for some girls and my results have been nowhere near this.

a few questions for you so we can all learn from your success:

how many girls a month are you currently fucking from tinder?

what is the average age of the girls you fuck from tinder?

how old are you?

where are you located?

What is the average looks rating of the girls you fuck from tinder (please be brutally honest)?

Post: #8205

I made Tinder like a week ago so I'm not banging anyone. Back in college I'd probably bang or hook up with a girl a month off of Tinder. At minimum I'd get a couple dates. I'm in my mid twenties and so are most of these girls. The quality varies, on the high end like a 7, on the absolute lowest end a 4 or a 5. I met my last LTR off of it who was a very sweet, very caring 7 (ended because of distance and a lack of time on my part).

Not sharing location, don't want to doxx myself.

But this isn't atypical. Most guys I know get all of their female attention from online dating.

Post: #8206

Talking to a new guy at work. Late 20’s white dude, LTR of 3 years he met off of Tinder. When I asked how he met her, he responded as if this is how most people meet LTRs these days.

Post: #8207

(05-07-2019 09:14 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  Talking to a new guy at work. Late 20’s white dude, LTR of 3 years he met off of Tinder. When I asked how he met her, he responded as if this is how most people meet LTRs these days.

Is it not? I get that there's a significant overlap on most swiping apps with some people looking for hookups and other people looking for long term companionship, and everything in between. But I don't think it's especially rare for people LTRing to meet on a dating app.

Granted, my experience with dating apps consists of less than three months total - my LTR that ended in February began more than a year before Tinder ever hit the app store.

Post: #8208

(05-07-2019 06:40 PM)Klan Killer Wrote:  I made Tinder like a week ago so I'm not banging anyone. Back in college I'd probably bang or hook up with a girl a month off of Tinder. At minimum I'd get a couple dates. I'm in my mid twenties and so are most of these girls. The quality varies, on the high end like a 7, on the absolute lowest end a 4 or a 5. I met my last LTR off of it who was a very sweet, very caring 7 (ended because of distance and a lack of time on my part).

Not sharing location, don't want to doxx myself.

But this isn't atypical. Most guys I know get all of their female attention from online dating.

damm man.

bolded part.

why?

I could never even go on a date with a 4 or 5.

only girls i swiped on where 6+

i respect your honesty in admitting this though

Post: #8209

(05-07-2019 01:26 AM)Klan Killer Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 04:23 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Read an interesting report about a tech-savvy guy who tried to assess the algorythm.

He claims that extremely good-looking men are pushed upwards in the matrix and appear more often to women while the metric is lowered for average or below average guys. The reason is because they want to keep the few women still interested in the app, so they automatically promote guys who get more likes, so that they get even more promotion. Meanwhile those that don't receive enough likes are obviously lowered in in the algorythm since women would leave the app if they saw too many unattractive mugs.

It's funny that they even have to tweak those number even to the greater detriment of the average man - heck - even the good-looking 7-8 looks guy will be blown out of the water by the few 9-level looks men.

Sorry but this is BS.

I'm definitely not a 9, I'd give myself a 6 or a 7. I'm also in a suburb which is god awful for game -- my workplace, gym, and BJJ place are 99% male. I still got something like 20 matches every day since I made my Tinder (Sunday), had girls complimenting my photos, messaging me first, and handing out their numbers. These girls weren't all stunners but they were generally bangable. I had a date on Thursday that ended in a makeout and a couple more in the works for this week.

This is just this week, over my lifetime I've had maybe 15-20 hookups from Tinder and met an LTR who I dated for over a year.

I also lead a pretty solitary life, small and close social circle, don't use Instagram, and am not the stereotypical "dark triad alpha male".

The point of this isn't to masturbate about how good I am at online dating, the point is Tinder is a very viable option for a lot of men. You literally need one decent quality picture and passable text game to have at least some success.

Same. I've theorized why they say men who are 6's and 7's don't get matches when you get guys like us who clearly do with tinder.

A couple of answers are: they're uglier than they think, they have awful pictures, they happen to be in a very difficult city (London, san fran), their bio is turning women away.

Post: #8210

What do you guys use for your bio? Something generic but good game-wise that I can use? For some reason, bio is what I literally don't have idea what to write.

Post: #8211

(05-08-2019 01:24 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  What do you guys use for your bio? Something generic but good game-wise that I can use? For some reason, bio is what I literally don't have idea what to write.

My bio is fairly generic too; planning to change it up soon, just not sure to what, so I'm interested in seeing what the forum thinks.

My last bang told me that she swiped right on me because I mentioned in my profile that I recently traveled to Japan.

Post: #8212

(05-07-2019 11:53 PM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 01:26 AM)Klan Killer Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 04:23 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Read an interesting report about a tech-savvy guy who tried to assess the algorythm.

He claims that extremely good-looking men are pushed upwards in the matrix and appear more often to women while the metric is lowered for average or below average guys. The reason is because they want to keep the few women still interested in the app, so they automatically promote guys who get more likes, so that they get even more promotion. Meanwhile those that don't receive enough likes are obviously lowered in in the algorythm since women would leave the app if they saw too many unattractive mugs.

It's funny that they even have to tweak those number even to the greater detriment of the average man - heck - even the good-looking 7-8 looks guy will be blown out of the water by the few 9-level looks men.

Sorry but this is BS.

I'm definitely not a 9, I'd give myself a 6 or a 7. I'm also in a suburb which is god awful for game -- my workplace, gym, and BJJ place are 99% male. I still got something like 20 matches every day since I made my Tinder (Sunday), had girls complimenting my photos, messaging me first, and handing out their numbers. These girls weren't all stunners but they were generally bangable. I had a date on Thursday that ended in a makeout and a couple more in the works for this week.

This is just this week, over my lifetime I've had maybe 15-20 hookups from Tinder and met an LTR who I dated for over a year.

I also lead a pretty solitary life, small and close social circle, don't use Instagram, and am not the stereotypical "dark triad alpha male".

The point of this isn't to masturbate about how good I am at online dating, the point is Tinder is a very viable option for a lot of men. You literally need one decent quality picture and passable text game to have at least some success.

Same. I've theorized why they say men who are 6's and 7's don't get matches when you get guys like us who clearly do with tinder.

A couple of answers are: they're uglier than they think, they have awful pictures, they happen to be in a very difficult city (London, san fran), their bio is turning women away.

Pretty much this. The thing about online dating is that, at minimum, you need a couple high quality photos. Either of you showing off a great physique, or just a crisp, good looking picture that looks semi-professional. Guys post shitty, low quality pictures of themselves, spit terrible text game, then wonder why they aren't getting anywhere on Tinder.

Any city is going to be better than almost any suburb or small town. I've used Tinder in SF, even there there are tons of attractive women, way more than in my current suburb.

Post: #8213

Tinder definitely rewards active users also. I went away for a week to remote Scotland to clear my head. Told any important matches beforehand, and left the app alone. My average of 1-3 matches a day since I signed up 6 months ago (only one reset) tanked when I got back. It’s taken a week of use before the quality of women improved and I bagged a new match. I also “banked” a match I wouldn’t normally go for (knew she had liked me as she was outside of my 15km range) not a usual strategy but wanted to test the algorithm. Within another 24hrs I was back to my usual match rate. I’d say I’m a solid 7, swipe selectively and don’t have brilliant pics - three selfies and another with my dog. Short bio

Post: #8214

(05-08-2019 04:23 PM)The Usual Suspect Wrote:  Tinder definitely rewards active users also. I went away for a week to remote Scotland to clear my head. Told any important matches beforehand, and left the app alone. My average of 1-3 matches a day since I signed up 6 months ago (only one reset) tanked when I got back. It’s taken a week of use before the quality of women improved and I bagged a new match. I also “banked” a match I wouldn’t normally go for (knew she had liked me as she was outside of my 15km range) not a usual strategy but wanted to test the algorithm. Within another 24hrs I was back to my usual match rate. I’d say I’m a solid 7, swipe selectively and don’t have brilliant pics - three selfies and another with my dog. Short bio

how is tinder worth your time if you're getting so few matches?

there's a guy who posts on here a lot who says you need over 100 matches a week to get laid every week from tinder.

i was getting 20-30 matches a week and was getting no sex from tinder.

how are you surviving on 1-3 mathes per day?

are you fucking even 1 girl per month from tinder?

Post: #8215

Any tips for what to say when a girl asks 'what are you looking for on tinder?'

The truth is = sex and then if you're cool friends with benefits /relationship

But I think I'd get unmatched/reported a lot and get my account banned for honesty.

(I have been banned before for being too honest). On their terms they actually changed it so you can't be sexually explicit as well. (I don't think they had this before but too many complaints I suppose).

Post: #8216

I’m nearly 40 and actively looking for an LTR and it says so in my bio and the nearest major city is outside of my range. Different screening applies for me - I tend to swipe upwards, and I don’t want kids so at my age that rules out a lot of women

I’ve had 5 lays in 6 months. Nothing outstanding I admit but I’ve been around the block and meaningless sex on tap isn’t my goal anymore. I’ll spend approx 10-15 minutes per day swiping, my focus is rebuilding up my own life after a health scare (which I’m still fighting but returned me to red pill after 10 years of Cuck)

Only a chad in a major US city will bag 100 matches per week. It depends what your goals are from the app

Post: #8217

(05-09-2019 02:43 AM)The Usual Suspect Wrote:  I’m nearly 40 and actively looking for an LTR and it says so in my bio and the nearest major city is outside of my range. Different screening applies for me - I tend to swipe upwards, and I don’t want kids so at my age that rules out a lot of women

I’ve had 5 lays in 6 months. Nothing outstanding I admit but I’ve been around the block and meaningless sex on tap isn’t my goal anymore. I’ll spend approx 10-15 minutes per day swiping, my focus is rebuilding up my own life after a health scare (which I’m still fighting but returned me to red pill after 10 years of Cuck)

Only a chad in a major US city will bag 100 matches per week. It depends what your goals are from the app

Don't tell them that you don't want kids. Problem solved. If they start making it an issue tell them to beat it. Lastly, if you really don't want kids get a vasectomy.

Post: #8218

(05-08-2019 11:03 PM)jacknap Wrote:  Any tips for what to say when a girl asks 'what are you looking for on tinder?'

The truth is = sex and then if you're cool friends with benefits /relationship

But I think I'd get unmatched/reported a lot and get my account banned for honesty.

(I have been banned before for being too honest). On their terms they actually changed it so you can't be sexually explicit as well. (I don't think they had this before but too many complaints I suppose).

"I'm looking for something laid back and fun. You?"

That's the generic answer. If you feel like the girl has/will put up resistance, then:

"I never expect anything on tinder but I'm down to meet people. You?"

Notice the emphasis on the "you?" part at the end of the lines. Ask her the same question back, put her on the spot. Regardless, you should be the one to ask the girl what she's looking for instead.

For everyone else who wanted a breakdown of my text game, I'm gonna give it a few days (I'm sick) and do a proper write up when I'm back to 100%.

Post: #8219

^ I'm looking forward to seeing that!

Post: #8220

I've been having a bizarre issue lately where girls will message me first with a compliment and then basically ghost on the conversation. "Hey, nice profile," "you're cute" etc etc. Then when I reply they either ghost or don't hand out a number.

Either my text game is absolute dog shit (which I don't think is the case, seeing as I lined up two dates last weekend and have two more this weekend) or this some weird new trend. This has literally happened with five different girls in the last week. One straight up said she thought I was hot and wanted something casual then ghosted. ?????

I've been spitting game for the last six years but I've never seen girls show genuine interest in the beginning and then completely flip or ghost. Like why would you even take the time to compliment someone unless you kind of mean it? They're not fake profiles either, they're usually the kinds of ethnic girls who I would see around my suburb. Unless someone is making really realistic really detailed fake profiles I would imagine they are real people.

Post: #8221

Will I lose my boosts if I delete my profile and try again?

I think Tinder has dried up for me. Gonna try the tactic espoused here. But will it get rid of my boosts?

Post: #8222

(05-10-2019 06:52 PM)Klan Killer Wrote:  I've been having a bizarre issue lately where girls will message me first with a compliment and then basically ghost on the conversation. "Hey, nice profile," "you're cute" etc etc. Then when I reply they either ghost or don't hand out a number.

Either my text game is absolute dog shit (which I don't think is the case, seeing as I lined up two dates last weekend and have two more this weekend) or this some weird new trend. This has literally happened with five different girls in the last week. One straight up said she thought I was hot and wanted something casual then ghosted. ?????

I've been spitting game for the last six years but I've never seen girls show genuine interest in the beginning and then completely flip or ghost. Like why would you even take the time to compliment someone unless you kind of mean it? They're not fake profiles either, they're usually the kinds of ethnic girls who I would see around my suburb. Unless someone is making really realistic really detailed fake profiles I would imagine they are real people.

hahaha this brings back so many bad memories.

dude this happened to me when i was on tinder pretty much every day.

I had girls say they could not believe a guy who looked like me was on tinder then ghost.

I've had girls super like me and then either ghost or not even reply to my first message.

stuff like this happened daily to me.

super high interest and then they suddenly stop replying.

I'm so happy i quit tinder.

if you have the looks to get matches on tinder then you can get laid even more efficiently and with better quality in clubs.

do night game would be my advice to you.

sometimes i get tempted to get back on tinder but then i see a post like this and I'm glad i quit.

Post: #8223

(05-10-2019 07:30 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Will I lose my boosts if I delete my profile and try again?

I think Tinder has dried up for me. Gonna try the tactic espoused here. But will it get rid of my boosts?

Yes, boosts and superlikes are consumables and are deleted with your account. (not sure if this is changed in recent updates)

Just use everything up, salvage whatever matches you get, then do a fresh start (new Google Play + Tinder gold membership)

Post: #8224

(05-10-2019 07:36 PM)dreadcom Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 06:52 PM)Klan Killer Wrote:  I've been having a bizarre issue lately where girls will message me first with a compliment and then basically ghost on the conversation. "Hey, nice profile," "you're cute" etc etc. Then when I reply they either ghost or don't hand out a number.

Either my text game is absolute dog shit (which I don't think is the case, seeing as I lined up two dates last weekend and have two more this weekend) or this some weird new trend. This has literally happened with five different girls in the last week. One straight up said she thought I was hot and wanted something casual then ghosted. ?????

I've been spitting game for the last six years but I've never seen girls show genuine interest in the beginning and then completely flip or ghost. Like why would you even take the time to compliment someone unless you kind of mean it? They're not fake profiles either, they're usually the kinds of ethnic girls who I would see around my suburb. Unless someone is making really realistic really detailed fake profiles I would imagine they are real people.

hahaha this brings back so many bad memories.

dude this happened to me when i was on tinder pretty much every day.

I had girls say they could not believe a guy who looked like me was on tinder then ghost.

I've had girls super like me and then either ghost or not even reply to my first message.

stuff like this happened daily to me.

super high interest and then they suddenly stop replying.

I'm so happy i quit tinder.

if you have the looks to get matches on tinder then you can get laid even more efficiently and with better quality in clubs.

do night game would be my advice to you.

sometimes i get tempted to get back on tinder but then i see a post like this and I'm glad i quit.

Yeah it's super retarded, this never happened to me before. Like I get it if a girl doesn't like the game your spitting and stops responding. Like 100% leave me on read, it's cool, you're getting hit up by hundreds of guys a day and some will be more attractive than me. I get it.

This is happening way too often. This pretty attractive Asian girl straight up said she liked my profile and can "roll with my face". We have a short convo -- nothing too out of the ordinary -- then she unmatches me. I had another 6/10 white girl hit up straight up telling me I was hot and she wanted to hook up, ghosts over text.

I literally cannot understand the rationale behind doing this. I'm a sales guy, this would be like me calling my prospects, setting up meetings with them, and then abruptly ghosting them. It makes absolutely no sense.

Post: #8225

(05-10-2019 10:52 PM)Klan Killer Wrote:  I literally cannot understand the rationale behind doing this. I'm a sales guy, this would be like me calling my prospects, setting up meetings with them, and then abruptly ghosting them. It makes absolutely no sense.

You're looking at it from the wrong angle. You're the seller, she's the buyer. It's a buyer's economy. She's being inundated with offers from sellers, so she can afford to ghost. She's swimming in abundance. There's zero loyalty from these chicks, no matter how much she liked you or your offer at the time.