Post: #3701

Cheers,

I need to say that I never really did daygame. Night-, Social circle-, and Onlinegame was my way to go. Why? I am honest to myself, daygame and coldapproach require more balls and I did very well with the other methods, so I didn't leave my comfort zone.

New year new me. Am living and working right now in Latin America (since 3 weeks). The chicas here are awesome, I am really into them. I get a lot of IOIs here, I am german, blond, very jacked body, good face, exotic here.

My problem is, that I need hours to find a hot girl which is walking around ALONE. I was today for 2-3 hours in the city center and only approached one girl. I saw tons of other targets, but they were always around 1/2 friends or their parents. My spanish is okey, basic level, but I think it's not good enough to approach a group.
Any ideas? I was thinking about to write my number on small papers and give it to hot girls in goups. Like "hey I saw you, you are sweet, I am a bit busy, here is my number, text me and we will drink something together, adiós." This could work? I would consider my SMV here as very high. Any other ideas? As I said, daygame is new to me, but I want to leave my comfort zone.

Thanks

Post: #3702

(01-02-2019 07:32 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  How would you guys approach/open a girl who bumped into you and says sorry (so chances of it being an IOI) at

(a) daytime in a mall/street etc?
(b) night venues eg. a pub?

'That's fine' or something along those lines is probably a conversation ending response. Thoughts?

Couple of good suggestions from themalebrain, pretty much you want something that frames you as the prize and her being a little desperate to get her hands on you.

Something like:
"That's a bit forward!"
"Hey, hands of the merchandise"
"That's a bit friendly"
"I know, quite the chunk of man meat right?" With a smirk

Work out something that you can see yourself using, and try that.

Post: #3703

(01-03-2019 06:03 PM)Davinator Wrote:  Cheers,

I need to say that I never really did daygame. Night-, Social circle-, and Onlinegame was my way to go. Why? I am honest to myself, daygame and coldapproach require more balls and I did very well with the other methods, so I didn't leave my comfort zone.

The only way to change is to come out of the comfort zone. Try being committed to Roosh's 100 challenge - open a girl every day for 100 days.
My percentage were horrible. But I became outcome independent.
The more you do it, the less you'll have "inner game" issues.

(01-03-2019 06:03 PM)Davinator Wrote:  My problem is, that I need hours to find a hot girl which is walking around ALONE. I was today for 2-3 hours in the city center and only approached one girl. I saw tons of other targets, but they were always around 1/2 friends or their parents. My spanish is okey, basic level, but I think it's not good enough to approach a group.

That's a buffer, as Rollo calls it. You can approach a 2-set or even a 3-set. Yes, the odds are against you, but so what?
Alone is better, we agree. But if not, look for the 2-set which seems "bored" and approach them.

(01-03-2019 06:03 PM)Davinator Wrote:  Any ideas? I was thinking about to write my number on small papers and give it to hot girls in goups. Like "hey I saw you, you are sweet, I am a bit busy, here is my number, text me and we will drink something together, adiós." This could work? I would consider my SMV here as very high. Any other ideas? As I said, daygame is new to me, but I want to leave my comfort zone.

Thanks

That's evasion. The girl should be the one to accept or reject your invite. Girls taking your number rarely call you, but you getting the digits means 100% communications.

Seems like an inner game issue. Try committing to approaching as part of your daily routine, assume that the failures will teach you.
Sounds like you have "the looks" advantage. Go use it.

Post: #3704

What do you think of this approach opener method for girls talking on their phones or texting?
"Excuse me, just tell your friend an attractive man has walked up to her and wants to get to know her/take her out and that this has to wait."
Seems like it establishes bluntly that its your frame and you are the one with higher value.

Post: #3705

(01-05-2019 04:12 AM)SaintLaurentJake Wrote:  What do you think of this approach opener method for girls talking on their phones or texting?
"Excuse me, just tell your friend an attractive man has walked up to her and wants to get to know her/take her out and that this has to wait."
Seems like it establishes bluntly that its your frame and you are the one with higher value.

Sound interesting.
Do a field "study" and try it on several girls. I believe most of us will be curious to learn how it went.

Post: #3706

(01-03-2019 10:06 PM)Bluey Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 07:32 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  How would you guys approach/open a girl who bumped into you and says sorry (so chances of it being an IOI) at

(a) daytime in a mall/street etc?
(b) night venues eg. a pub?

'That's fine' or something along those lines is probably a conversation ending response. Thoughts?

Couple of good suggestions from themalebrain, pretty much you want something that frames you as the prize and her being a little desperate to get her hands on you.

Something like:
"That's a bit forward!"
"Hey, hands of the merchandise"
"That's a bit friendly"
"I know, quite the chunk of man meat right?" With a smirk

Work out something that you can see yourself using, and try that.

Would you use all of them for day approaches? I imagine option 2 can be used anywhere anytime.

She's probably going to laugh at any one of those replies if she was interested. How would you continue the convo with a follow up topic?

Post: #3707

Went to farmers market in the morning. My eyes caught those of a girl at a stand, an 8. Had a little elderly chat and good eye contact then I went to a cafe. Went there again and told her she looked like a female Santa Clause and that she looked cute. Asked if she wanted to grab a drink sometime and to my surprise she agreed. Got her number.

What are you supposed to do in those (awkward) moments when she's entering her name and number into your phone?

Texted her about an hour and a half later with "Hello Santa Clause" but got no answer. Not sure if it was the text or the approach that was the problem.

Post: #3708

Saw an HB8 maybe 18 or 19 y/o Mixed White/Asian girl at a QFC today, didn't approach her because she was with her mother. We were exchanging eye contact but I didn't approach because of the parental factor.... Fuck me.. Kind of regret it now. Haven't been approaching lately for about 3 months and really felt the approach anxiety again.

Post: #3709

(01-05-2019 08:30 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(01-03-2019 10:06 PM)Bluey Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 07:32 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  How would you guys approach/open a girl who bumped into you and says sorry (so chances of it being an IOI) at

(a) daytime in a mall/street etc?
(b) night venues eg. a pub?

'That's fine' or something along those lines is probably a conversation ending response. Thoughts?

Couple of good suggestions from themalebrain, pretty much you want something that frames you as the prize and her being a little desperate to get her hands on you.

Something like:
"That's a bit forward!"
"Hey, hands of the merchandise"
"That's a bit friendly"
"I know, quite the chunk of man meat right?" With a smirk

Work out something that you can see yourself using, and try that.

Would you use all of them for day approaches? I imagine option 2 can be used anywhere anytime.

She's probably going to laugh at any one of those replies if she was interested. How would you continue the convo with a follow up topic?

For me it depends on context, if it's clear she's really accidentally run into you and not interested, let her walk.
Otherwise you've already set the frame of being the prize, flirt a little and game as usual. Ask why she's in such a hurry, comment on something she's got, standard day game stuff. All got to be congruent with your personality. I've seen a guy use the chunk of man meat line and it worked for him because it fits.
I've used the line about being a bit friendly because I'm more laid back and reserved, it fits me. Opening tends to be the hard part, and it's already covered.

Post: #3710

(01-05-2019 05:54 PM)duedue Wrote:  Went to farmers market in the morning. My eyes caught those of a girl at a stand, an 8. Had a little elderly chat and good eye contact then I went to a cafe. Went there again and told her she looked like a female Santa Clause and that she looked cute. Asked if she wanted to grab a drink sometime and to my surprise she agreed. Got her number.

What are you supposed to do in those (awkward) moments when she's entering her name and number into your phone?

Texted her about an hour and a half later with "Hello Santa Clause" but got no answer. Not sure if it was the text or the approach that was the problem.

You did good by getting the number.
But probably was in a hurry to text.
Try again in a day or two. If not, then move on.

As per the (awkward) moments - you stand there and wait.

Post: #3711

I'm planning to approach with a wingman. We're both newbies and have been deliberating on whether mid-week bar scene or outdoor approach is optimal. We'll be in Hartford CT so it will be chilly.

For context I'm black, 31, 6" and he's white, 26 and 6"1. Both fit athletic builds and attractive

Post: #3712

(01-07-2019 04:37 PM)Snag87 Wrote:  I'm planning to approach with a wingman. We're both newbies and have been deliberating on whether mid-week bar scene or outdoor approach is optimal. We'll be in Hartford CT so it will be chilly.

For context I'm black, 31, 6" and he's white, 26 and 6"1. Both fit athletic builds and attractive

Good luck. Havent been to CT but Im sure you guys will do fine as many guys are just doing tinder swipe shit nowadays and cold approach is more rare now.

Post: #3713

(01-05-2019 09:04 PM)Bluey Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 08:30 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(01-03-2019 10:06 PM)Bluey Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 07:32 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  How would you guys approach/open a girl who bumped into you and says sorry (so chances of it being an IOI) at

(a) daytime in a mall/street etc?
(b) night venues eg. a pub?

'That's fine' or something along those lines is probably a conversation ending response. Thoughts?

Couple of good suggestions from themalebrain, pretty much you want something that frames you as the prize and her being a little desperate to get her hands on you.

Something like:
"That's a bit forward!"
"Hey, hands of the merchandise"
"That's a bit friendly"
"I know, quite the chunk of man meat right?" With a smirk

Work out something that you can see yourself using, and try that.

Would you use all of them for day approaches? I imagine option 2 can be used anywhere anytime.

She's probably going to laugh at any one of those replies if she was interested. How would you continue the convo with a follow up topic?

For me it depends on context, if it's clear she's really accidentally run into you and not interested, let her walk.
Otherwise you've already set the frame of being the prize, flirt a little and game as usual. Ask why she's in such a hurry, comment on something she's got, standard day game stuff. All got to be congruent with your personality. I've seen a guy use the chunk of man meat line and it worked for him because it fits.
I've used the line about being a bit friendly because I'm more laid back and reserved, it fits me. Opening tends to be the hard part, and it's already covered.

Edit: I was referring to option 3 "... a bit friendly" as the go to opener. Yeah I would imagine the other options to be more ballsy and vibe dependent.

I guess the challenge with this kind of scenario is that immediately you are left with asking more about her activities like where she is going or what she is about to do due to her being in a 'hurry' and not all girls may be comfortable to discussing their plans with a stranger they just met. To be on the safe side, you got to backtrack back to a more neutral opener.

Post: #3714

I am using Gmail for the official purpose and it is really the best platform for free email service but from few days I am getting Gmail error 007 but cannot able to understand why such an error is occurring. Can anyone tell me the valid reason and also any suggestion to solve this issue?

Post: #3715

(01-12-2019 07:29 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 09:04 PM)Bluey Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 08:30 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(01-03-2019 10:06 PM)Bluey Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 07:32 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  How would you guys approach/open a girl who bumped into you and says sorry (so chances of it being an IOI) at

(a) daytime in a mall/street etc?
(b) night venues eg. a pub?

'That's fine' or something along those lines is probably a conversation ending response. Thoughts?

Couple of good suggestions from themalebrain, pretty much you want something that frames you as the prize and her being a little desperate to get her hands on you.

Something like:
"That's a bit forward!"
"Hey, hands of the merchandise"
"That's a bit friendly"
"I know, quite the chunk of man meat right?" With a smirk

Work out something that you can see yourself using, and try that.

Would you use all of them for day approaches? I imagine option 2 can be used anywhere anytime.

She's probably going to laugh at any one of those replies if she was interested. How would you continue the convo with a follow up topic?

For me it depends on context, if it's clear she's really accidentally run into you and not interested, let her walk.
Otherwise you've already set the frame of being the prize, flirt a little and game as usual. Ask why she's in such a hurry, comment on something she's got, standard day game stuff. All got to be congruent with your personality. I've seen a guy use the chunk of man meat line and it worked for him because it fits.
I've used the line about being a bit friendly because I'm more laid back and reserved, it fits me. Opening tends to be the hard part, and it's already covered.

Edit: I was referring to option 3 "... a bit friendly" as the go to opener. Yeah I would imagine the other options to be more ballsy and vibe dependent.

I guess the challenge with this kind of scenario is that immediately you are left with asking more about her activities like where she is going or what she is about to do due to her being in a 'hurry' and not all girls may be comfortable to discussing their plans with a stranger they just met. To be on the safe side, you got to backtrack back to a more neutral opener.

Not really, and it's not your business either so keep it ultra casual.

You can say anything. I like to use the environment or make a comment about something she is wearing... or her long nails/nail colour if it's something other than red.

Or ask if she's German... right? (I narrow the country based on their look)

Post: #3716

Was yesterday at a pub/bear garden as part of a social event.
Company was nice, but no potential target (only one girl I banged last year). Talked and moved around the table, then went to the rest room.
A cute HB7 was standing there.
Me: "Age before beauty" (signaling her she can go out).
HB7: "No. I'm waiting. There is only one booth".
Me (After looking at her): "That's an interesting fashion statement. You have pants with vertical lines. Show me your blouse"
HB7: "It's a plain shirt".
Me: "MMM. You are slim, you could have either went with a darker color or extending the lines to make you taller"
HB7 (dear in the headlight eyes): "Are you a stylist?"
Me: "I wish"
Then the rest room was vacated and she went in. Came out a minute later.
Me: "that was fast"
HB7: "Don't you want to go?"
Me (smirking): "I want to make sure you don't pip"
She laughed, but excused herself.

My bad for not trying to stop her and continue the interaction.

Post: #3717

At the supermarket spotted a girl with strawberry blonde hair, looked pensive. I went for it.

Excuse me I wanted to tell you you look cute
[smiles] Thank you
I think you are a student
Yes
You study...[bullshit guess]
I study business [smiles again]
So you wanna be a businesswoman
I don't yet know what I wanna be
You wanna be the boss!
....was nice to meet you [How fast did I kill her excitement???]
Why don't you give me your number so we go grab a drink sometime [my voice was somewhat hesitant as I was unprepared]
Thank you but I have a bf [looked down presumably because was making this up]

Of course girls like the guy to be at least a little persistent but then persistence can land you in the "harassment" zone. But I could've told her my usual "don't bring him with you".

Post: #3718

Just started trying out daygame approaches. Earlier activity has been through apps, social circle or various other unintended encounters.

While I am really comfortable with girls usually, I really struggle with making myself do cold approaches. It's not about feeling nervous around talking to strangers per se, but more that I feel like I have to pretend to be someone else when doing them. I always thought it was somehow "below me" to do cold approaches, but I have come to realize the limitations of apps and such to reach a certain type of people and proceeded to give it a try. In a way I feel like daygame approaching doesn't square with my personality, but my desires are still pushing me to do it.

Anyhow, I was lucky to have my very first approach lead to a number and a date. Less than ten total approaches so far, hoping to go out and do some more soon.

Post: #3719

I was doing approaches in a bar tonight and around the time of 11 a ton of people flooded in. And I noticed my social energy dropped from about a 7 out of 10 to 0. I felt drained and that I had to step outside.
I also noticed my self confidence dropped. Negative thoughts like "I cant do this." Or "She wont talk to me" entered my mind. I could not activate conversations in my head because my thoughts were drowned out.

This never happens with smaller groups but I remembered this is not the first time its happened. I know I have avoided the bars in the past because of this kind of thing but I wanted to do it anyway.

I am starting to wonder if I can do the bar scene or any form of night pick up. I cant seem to match the energy of large crowds.

Anyone else experience this feeling?

Post: #3720

(02-10-2019 12:57 AM)XThrax Wrote:  I was doing approaches in a bar tonight and around the time of 11 a ton of people flooded in. And I noticed my social energy dropped from about a 7 out of 10 to 0. I felt drained and that I had to step outside.
I also noticed my self confidence dropped. Negative thoughts like "I cant do this." Or "She wont talk to me" entered my mind. I could not activate conversations in my head because my thoughts were drowned out.

This never happens with smaller groups but I remembered this is not the first time its happened. I know I have avoided the bars in the past because of this kind of thing but I wanted to do it anyway.

I am starting to wonder if I can do the bar scene or any form of night pick up. I cant seem to match the energy of large crowds.

Anyone else experience this feeling?

You are probably an introvert. This means that a having a crowd around may drain you.
If this is true, not need to fight it. Game at smaller venues suited to your strengths.

Post: #3721

Grocery Store
Spotted 3 Latinas, group set cold approach.
5/7/5 went for the 7 latina.
Group sets are difficult for me so wanted to go out of my comfort zone.
Me: Ayo whats up chicas? Wanted to stop by cause I found her ( mild hand gesture towards her) to be intriguing, cute as well. (Looking at the 7)
Group : *Group Laugh* Oh my god.. That's quite forward
HB7 : (Smiles) Nice to meet you name is Elisia.
Me : Oh wow, quite the unusual name. I just wanted to do some in-person approaches, too much online dating swipe bullshit these days (I use Tinder for pipelining but want to garner some respect for what I'm doing here without looking needy).
Group : (collectively, in sort of a hive mind female response) I know... !! There's so much flaking and deceiving going on for online dating.
Me : Yep. So do you speak Spanish well Elisia?
HB7 : Yeah Im not fluent but I can speak Spanish pretty well, my parents moved here from Honduras.
Me : I see. I have quite a few friends from Honduras and El Salvador from my old HS, very warm people, seems like your no exception as well.
HB7 : Thanks (genuine laugh), where are you from?
Me : Ah I'm Chinese American. Grew up here but Studied in China for about 4-5 years to gain fluency in Mandarin. Tough stuff but man did it pay off.
HB7 : Oh wow (in a raising voice) I'd like to travel more too. I've only been to Canada and Mexico sadly.
Me : No doubt its one of the best things to do in life. Great talking to you Elisia, whats your Snapchat and number ? I'd like to keep in contact, you seem worthwhile.
HB7 : Sure ! Whats your name again ? (Realized suddenly that I didnt introduce my own name throughout this encounter)
Me : Jake.
*Types her number and Snap in*
Me: Cheers, chao Elisia.
Elisia : Bye Jake
After leaving, noticed the group talking about the approach no doubt, normal.

I had a few different approach convos in mind but might have been too suggestive or escalating too quick as this is Day-game after all. One of them was to suggest that she did something else at night time,that she was two different people depending on the time of day. Obviously this suggests shes a pro or "naughty" at night. She was dressed quite provocatively with a skimpy black top and super skinny jeans to show off her ass. But this approach seemed easy for her to blow off and risky to me.

Post: #3722

(02-12-2019 09:22 PM)SaintLaurentJake Wrote:  Grocery Store
Spotted 3 Latinas, group set cold approach.
5/7/5 went for the 7 latina.
Group sets are difficult for me so wanted to go out of my comfort zone.
Me: Ayo whats up chicas? Wanted to stop by cause I found her ( mild hand gesture towards her) to be intriguing, cute as well. (Looking at the 7)
Group : *Group Laugh* Oh my god.. That's quite forward
HB7 : (Smiles) Nice to meet you name is Elisia.
Me : Oh wow, quite the unusual name. I just wanted to do some in-person approaches, too much online dating swipe bullshit these days (I use Tinder for pipelining but want to garner some respect for what I'm doing here without looking needy).
Group : (collectively, in sort of a hive mind female response) I know... !! There's so much flaking and deceiving going on for online dating.
Me : Yep. So do you speak Spanish well Elisia?
HB7 : Yeah Im not fluent but I can speak Spanish pretty well, my parents moved here from Honduras.
Me : I see. I have quite a few friends from Honduras and El Salvador from my old HS, very warm people, seems like your no exception as well.
HB7 : Thanks (genuine laugh), where are you from?
Me : Ah I'm Chinese American. Grew up here but Studied in China for about 4-5 years to gain fluency in Mandarin. Tough stuff but man did it pay off.
HB7 : Oh wow (in a raising voice) I'd like to travel more too. I've only been to Canada and Mexico sadly.
Me : No doubt its one of the best things to do in life. Great talking to you Elisia, whats your Snapchat and number ? I'd like to keep in contact, you seem worthwhile.
HB7 : Sure ! Whats your name again ? (Realized suddenly that I didnt introduce my own name throughout this encounter)
Me : Jake.
*Types her number and Snap in*
Me: Cheers, chao Elisia.
Elisia : Bye Jake
After leaving, noticed the group talking about the approach no doubt, normal.

I had a few different approach convos in mind but might have been too suggestive or escalating too quick as this is Day-game after all. One of them was to suggest that she did something else at night time,that she was two different people depending on the time of day. Obviously this suggests shes a pro or "naughty" at night. She was dressed quite provocatively with a skimpy black top and super skinny jeans to show off her ass. But this approach seemed easy for her to blow off and risky to me.

Damn balls of steel. I need to get up to this level on daygame.

Thanks for documenting the whole thing.

Post: #3723

(02-05-2019 05:02 AM)HAcoreRD Wrote:  Anyhow, I was lucky to have my very first approach lead to a number and a date. Less than ten total approaches so far, hoping to go out and do some more soon.

So turns out I was able to convert my very first cold approach into a lay. I can picture my imaginary dad with tears in his eyes!



Unfortunately I haven't really gotten around to doing more approaches. Sufficient flow from Tinder is keeping me at bay.

Post: #3724

(02-13-2019 07:14 PM)HAcoreRD Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 05:02 AM)HAcoreRD Wrote:  Anyhow, I was lucky to have my very first approach lead to a number and a date. Less than ten total approaches so far, hoping to go out and do some more soon.

So turns out I was able to convert my very first cold approach into a lay. I can picture my imaginary dad with tears in his eyes!



Unfortunately I haven't really gotten around to doing more approaches. Sufficient flow from Tinder is keeping me at bay.

Good job, any details on how you went about the approach?

Post: #3725

Me, trying out a new blazer: "Hey what do you think of this one?"

Her: "It's a bit big. You need to gain some weight"

I laughed. This is Miami Beach.