Post: #551

(01-09-2019 02:19 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(01-09-2019 02:11 PM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  do you know of anyone who would make a good president at this point ?

Seriously?

Yeah, she would not.

Her father was okay, but the globalists managed to scare him in the 70s (bombed his family's house in 76, killed the party's number 2 in 78 ..).
After that he knew he could stay only if he showed he would never win, and subsequently sabotaged himself several times.
I say okay not good, because reading his memoirs led me to believe he was soft, and soft is not what france needs.

Anyway, I met him personally last year in an airport, it was only 2 minutes but I was certainly very proud of being able to shake his hand and have a small conversation.
He was in a wheelchair being pushed by a young man which looked like a bodyguard, and it made me extremely sad to see him in this state - old and decrepit.
He is definitely one of the last great dinosaurs of french politics, if not the very last.
There is nobody of that quality in the current french political scene, hence my question.

His daughter, well she (just off the top of my head) :
1. kicked her dad out of the party he had founded himself. That alone disqualifies her totally in my opinion. Family is sacred, period.
2. took a gay man as number 2 for the party. Who divided their electoral base, then later abandoned ship.
3. did not support the massive anti-gay-marriage popular demonstrations.
4. sucked the jewish lobby's dick, thinking they would stop blocking her for the presidential election (of course they didn't - they just enjoyed less people voting for her because of that, and vetoed her anyway in the end).
5. courted the muslin population of the french ghettos (with the help of alain soral), thinking the foreign lumpenproletariat living on social benefits would vote for a party called the fucking NATIONAL FRONT. This level of stupidity sometimes makes me doubt the validity of darwin's theories, logically she should have died somewhere along the way.
6. said she would not remigrate anyone. Which is the first and most important reason anyone would vote for her party in the first place.
7. got humiliated by macron, the fag with a lisp. Have you seen the video ? She doesn't have what it takes to be a president, period.
8. is a woman. I don't think I need to expand on this point on this forum.

She is weak sauce, incompetent and corrupt.
Honestly I don't believe that anything but balls and hate will save france at this point.

What does she have ? a fat gut and menopause.
Oh and some fancy moves on the dancefloor AFTER LOSING THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION to a cuck who announced he would sell the country to globalists :



No shame, no dignity, no nothing.
Fuck that shit, if you pardon my french.

(01-09-2019 02:19 PM)balybary Wrote:  That's what a globalist agent posing as a patriot would say

I never said anywhere that I was a patriot.
I am a darwinist, and I do not believe in any kind of democracy.

Post: #552

The Nazis couldn’t expel the Jews because the flight of wealth would have brought down the German economy, so they needed to seize their asset. But the USSR did organize major population displacements, including millions of ethnic Germans from Prussia, Pomerania, Silesia and Sudetenland. It has been done and will likely be done in the future. The question of course is who will expel whom.

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Post: #554

We cannot be domesticated no matter how hard they try. I am so proud to be French.

About the yellow vests movement ; I suggest all french people meet in Brussels. Would be amazing ; and no cultural shock there as Brussels look like Paris and same language is spoken .

It s strange that noone thought about this : people can freely take the train ; the car or the plane to visit Belgium from France ; but would french police be allowed to go there help Belgian police ? A "commando" of 200/300 k french people.helped by a strong logistics in Brussels made of wallons ans Flemish patriots could make us enter the European parliament .

I really want to see the pictures of the european parliament in flames ( with no casualties of course ) with thousands of French speaking patriots in there all waving the flags of their respective regions while all European Union flags would burn.

Post: #555

Main pointers:

* The French are angry at the government.
* France has finance laws that political candidates like Macron exploit (they don't disclose who financed them).
* Mid January is when the French are going to conduct a bank run. This is how you affect change. It may or may not work though. Looking forward to mid January!

(01-09-2019 03:53 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

Post: #556

There was a conspiracy theory that if Occupy Wallstreet became too bad in USA (and the National Guard wasn't responding) then they had a loophole / secret treaty that Canada could had sent 60,000 soldiers and SWAT to the United States.

Of course I don't really buy it because the U.S. military (screwing the law) would step in if the National Guard somehow became corrupted.

Post: #557

The plan to destroy nations is on for many centuries. France is a tough one to destroy. Even without resources , indoctrination and mass immigration people are still proud. They won't give up on this plan and I accept the more this yellow yest movement continue the tougher the reactions will be. We will start to witness a little division between the ones who want to keep their privileges as rulers of France and their global masters .

We must absolutely gather as nationalists of all Europe and target specific targets . I suggest

on the global level :

- The European Central Bank in Frankfurt
- The European Parliament in Brussels
- Jewish institutions (like CRIF in France , equivalent of AJC or AIPAC in USA)
- Free masons institutions
- ONG promoting mass immigration - Soros-like type of stuff
on local level :

- Burning all EU flags

I think it's a blessing that most people have been dumbed down. You just have to activate them and make them understand the basic of economics (they are stealing our money) and they turn into hooligans.

I am still curious why Macron is so dumb. If he would make right now a referendum on two sensitive topics like punishing speculators & immigration , he would be reelected easily as his IQ is much higher than the rest of his opponents.

Post: #558

Reported by Vox Day;

https://voxday.blogspot.com/

Interesting tactic, if true;

Quote:Yellow Vest protesters are hoping to trigger a bank run with a nationwide coordinated cash withdrawal. By threatening the French financial system, protesters say, they want to peacefully force the government to pass their reforms.

“If the banks weaken, the state weakens immediately,” said Yellow Vest “sympathizer” Tahz San on Facebook. “It’s elected officials' worst nightmare.”

Protesters plan to empty their bank accounts on Saturday, withdrawing as much money as possible in a bid to undermine the French banks – if not the euro itself. The plan is to “scare the state legally and without violence,” forcing the government to adopt the movement’s Citizens’ Referendum Initiative, which would allow citizens to propose and vote on new laws.

“We are going to get our bread back…you’re making money with our dough, and we’re fed up,” said protester Maxime Nicolle in a video message shared on YouTube.

A well-coordinated financial action has the potential to bring the French banking system – and by extension the euro – to its knees, as banks always hold only a fraction of the funds the country’s citizens have in their accounts. However, most banks limit ATM withdrawals to a relatively low amount, meaning protesters would have to line up inside the banks to withdraw the rest of their money, giving the state plenty of time to place restrictions on withdrawals – though this would, no doubt, spark further protest.

Tricky one for the globalists to respond to! I mean, they can't just stop citizens from withdrawing their own money! And with banks only holding a fraction of what's held in accounts, together with the limited amount of cash actually held in the Cashpoints themselves.

Even if they cope (as they say they will), these things tend to have unintended and unexpected consequences.

Post: #559

(01-10-2019 04:41 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  Tricky one for the globalists to respond to! I mean, they can't just stop citizens from withdrawing their own money!

lolnope, they can and they will.

It's called the Bank Holiday, and governments from FDR to Harold Wilson in the UK have used it to stop people doing precisely that.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #560

Not sure what the consequences would be, honestly.
Most transactions here are done via debit card anyway (food, gas, etc).

I'm pondering whether I should withdraw some cash in advance, in case none would be available anymore starting from this weekend.
However with the banks closed most businesses will not want to accept cash anyway, for they would then sit on mountains of bills they cannot deposit anywhere and this is an obvious security risk.
Plus I could always go to switzerland or germany to draw some cash if it's really needed, although I would not be the only one with this idea in the region ..

I don't know, anyone really thought this through ?
What was your conclusion ?
Except that withdrawing some cash just in case would not hurt if nothing happens, of course.
But would it really help if something does happen ?

I normally would not think of this, but a belgian friend of mine bought a safe a couple years ago, precisely to store some cash.
I couldn't really understand what he was planning at the time, if the financial system collapses cash would probably be useless anyway wouldn't it ?
But this got me thinking again, maybe I am missing something important here ?

Post: #561

It's a good idea to have some cash, also better to have it when no one else needs it than to need it when everyone else needs it. This is exactly what a run on the bank does, the panic goes viral and everyone starts withdrawing their accounts and then the banks do not have enough cash on hand to fulfill those withdrawals and then more people freakout and start withdrawing. The people at the end of the line are stuck without cash.

The French so far seem to be civil enough towards their fellow countrymen directing their anger towards the establishment so I don't see anything too crazy happening

That said worst case scenario, you would basically want what preppers stock. Without cash things that you can barter will be how you will trade such as toilet paper, alcohol, non perishable food, medicine, etc. You can also stock a week or more supply of food, water and other basic necessities such as toilet paper in case as you said, businesses cease to operate normally.

I recently was in another part of the world where a crisis did happen where supermarkets were not stocked and people's cars ran out of gas. Everyone was civil about it even for being a more dangerous country however it was inconvenient and there were lots of people walking along the highway. Things could have escalated rapidly had the government not intervened.

Just watch some Prepper TV shows but don't take it that far.

Post: #562

(01-10-2019 04:41 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  Tricky one for the globalists to respond to! I mean, they can't just stop citizens from withdrawing their own money!

Of course they can.
Man you guys have short memories.
Greece and Cyprus limited cash withdrawls to under 100 euro PER WEEK a few years ago during the euro crisis.

Post: #563

Just buy stuff you need anyway but more of it.

Even if all you've got is a credit card then get everything you need for a month and pay it off asap if nothing happens. If it's stuff you're going to buy week to week anyway then all you're really paying is a little bit of interest at worst (or nothing extra if you pay it off before the month is out).

In a situation like this never put yourself in a position to have to leave the house if you can avoid it at all. There's no point in hoarding cash if it means having to step onto the street and find someone to barter with when you could have just bought the shit you needed in the first place.

Do a month with long life food instead of fresh (power goes out and your month worth of non-uht milk isn't going to last long). Treat it like a test run for serious social disruptions that are bound to follow in the future.

The only thing you should have large stores of cash for is if you have to flee intra-nationally and even in that case you're better off getting easily recognized nationally minted precious metal coins. Further down the line when your currency has been inflated 10,000% the gold coins you bought a year or two ago are still worth a shitload and the border guard you're bribing is well aware of that. Meanwhile the cash you hoarded is basically fancy toilet paper.

Take this stuff seriously.

You don't need to fear the yellow vests as much as you need to fear the extreme measures the government will take to maintain control.

Post: #564

Good points both of you.

Is there a topic about this somewhere on this forum already, in order not to derail this thread ?

Post: #565

Here you go.

/thread-71972.html

Post: #566

One of Vox's commenters discussed how banks work, historical bank runs, and how a bank run can potentially lead to shockwaves of panic that can collapse the EU. You have to remember the people in power are the ones that have the most to lose and at the end of the day we're all irrational and that might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I vaguely remember banking principles from school but admittedly don't know how the EU, IMF, or even the Federal Reserve might respond to an international shitshow. Another tactic the protestors can try is create a barter system like cigarettes. We'll find out in a couple weeks if this nukes the EU.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/01/yello...6758644777

""Can a bank run even work with the way things are currently rigged? Won't they just print mire money?"

Not legally.

If they obtain more cash from the printers than what they turn in for destruction (due to wear and tear), then that becomes another liability, of which they can, at max, return out only (100-Reserve)%.

However, because they need that cash to REPLACE the withdrawn funds. So, if the reserve mandate is 10%, and it has 100 Billion Euros (100 Thousand Million for you Brits) of account holders deposits, then a well-run bank will have 90 Billion (90 Thousand Million) of that loaned out. To make the nightly balance, if 1 Billion (1 Thousand Million) were withdrawn, then the bank would be forced to call in 9 Billion (9 Thousand Million) in outstanding loans. But you can't get money from borrowers that don't have the money and are unprepared to make loan payments much larger than their monthly payments. They used that money to buy stuff, not park it in a savings account that pays less interest than what they are paying on the loan.

Remember, everything is upside down in a bank -- when you make a $10,000 deposit in a bank account, that is NOT $10,000 in assets for the bank -- it's a $10,000 LIABILITY (because some day they will have to pay that back to you -- or, if you die, your estate). Similarly, for a bank, a $100,000 mortgage is NOT a liability -- for them, it is an asset (they are making money on it, and it has a value -- they can sell it to another bank). This is why bankers tell you that taking out a mortgage to buy a house is an asset. It's not an asset for you, it's a liability -- the mortgage itself *IS* the asset, because the bank is earning money on it, and they can sell it.

(Hmmm, inversion. Satanic???)

Ultimately, if depositers from the general public decide to withdraw, say, 20 Billion Euros in cash, the ONLY way the bank can balance the book at the end of the night is to call in 18 Billion Euros worth of outstanding loans (not going to happen -- if the creditors could pay off that debt overnight, they would do so), OR they can replace 20 Billion Euros of money from private depositors (20 B liability) with a 20 loan from another bank (another 20B liability), essentially, making that bank a new depositor.

This is how banks worked before the Federal Reserve System law. Now, the Federal Reserve is the "Lender of Last Resort" and the purpose was to stave off bank runs, by reassuring people that their bank would NEVER fail, so don't screw up the bank's books by wanting to withdraw all of your money out of fear. This, in turn, would supposedly stave off recessions and depressions. Yet the Federal Reserve System's first test resulted in the BIGGEST depression we've ever had, causing a worldwide depression.

(Continued)"

Post: #567

(01-10-2019 10:05 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Here you go.

/thread-71972.html

Ok so I guess there wasn't

Thank you anyway, I'll try and see if I can come up with something of added value in that new thread then.

Post: #568

Example number 1574252514 of a women accepting the big salary of a management position, but without the responsibilities (because pussy pass) and the sense of duty.

https://www.france24.com/en/20190109-fra...sts-macron

Quote:French official tapped to lead Macron’s ‘national debate’ quits amid salary controversy

The official appointed by the French government to lead a national debate over the grievances raised by so-called “Yellow Vest” protesters quit on Tuesday following a controversy over her salary.

Chantal Jouanno, a former sports minister, said she could not guarantee conditions for a calm debate as she had become a focus of attention after a news magazine revealed she was paid 14,700 euros ($16,800) per month to head France's National Commission for Public Debate.

The Commission is a consultative body on environmental issues.

Jouanno's sudden withdrawal marks an early setback for the national debate due to be launched next week, giving embattled President Emmanuel Macron little time to appoint a successor.

The debate, whose precise mechanisms remain unclear, is one of the key proposals he made last month in response to the wave of sometimes violent protests that has spread across the country since November.

It is expected to touch on a range of subjects including ecology, taxes, citizenship and democracy, and take place in town halls across the country as well as online.

Post: #569

France is not going to have bank runs. Let's say one million of those yellow vests decide to withdraw the last bucks in their accounts. Let's say on average they have around 1000 euros (although I'm pretty sure it is much lower than that if not negative). That's only 1 billion euros of cash. There is 1.12 Trillion of euro bank notes in circulation in the euro zone. France has at least 10%, so at minimum 112bn of bank notes are circulating.

You are also very unlikely to convince 1 million person in france to withdraw their money. Also don't forget that these people are protesting because they are broke. Not much to withdraw anyway.

Post: #570

Banks need to have set floats of reserves on hand to remain solvent, this is why Bank runs make Banks nervous. When people take out all of their cash, technically, the Banks then can't go outsource other cash, can't lend, etc. which constrains their ability to do business. The whole idea of the scam of a Bank is that you never expect everyone to want their money at the same time. You never actually have your money kept in your account, it is simply just a guarantee, and then the Banks go lend out and shop your money to bring in returns -- this is how modern fractional reserve banking works. Technically, if I recall, Banks only need to keep 10% of their reserves and they can go gamble the rest away.

In the digital world it is difficult to do because a Bank can manipulate it systems to hold and delay cash from being accessed by the people. They have the ability to create instant traffic jam in their systems. Expect lineups that go on for days as the Banks limit the cash to a trickle and place withdrawal restrictions per transaction.

So, all the French people would have to do is withdrawal around 8-12% of their cash value and the Banks would be in trouble - maybe then $11-12 billion, which for a modern and large economy is not that much money (which also shows you the danger of how delicate the Banking sector is).

Post: #571

The first scam of banks is that you pay them a monthly fee to have an account there, you know, to deposit your monthly salary on it then withdraw some in cash when you need it.
Concretely, this means that you pay them to take your money.
Once they have it they are free to do whatever they want with it, transfer it, invest it, play with it, as said above nobody's going to withdraw everything they have at the same time anyway.

This is their foot in the door, and as long as people do not revolt over this completely incredible idea, I'm afraid things won't change.
I might have heard that this is different in the US ? But here in europe it's like that.

After that yeah they have many other scams, like PEL, livret A, etc.
Basically accounts where you deposit a certain amount each month, it's blocked for a certain period of time (4 to 15 years for the PEL for instance) and you get some (lower than inflation) dividends.
So yeah, your money is blocked, it loses its value, and after some time you're free to access it and you gained .. what exactly ?

But people here are very happy when they have all the different such accounts they can get, and when they are full, "hey - I have money and it's invested somewhere".
Yes it is, just not for you to profit from it ...

Post: #572

To be fair, they're charging a service charge. Why would they just hold your money for free? Most of the time also, the bank doesn't charge your account if you maintain above a certain amount in the account.

Post: #573

(01-10-2019 02:19 PM)kosko Wrote:  Banks need to have set floats of reserves on hand to remain solvent, this is why Bank runs make Banks nervous. When people take out all of their cash, technically, the Banks then can't go outsource other cash, can't lend, etc. which constrains their ability to do business. The whole idea of the scam of a Bank is that you never expect everyone to want their money at the same time. You never actually have your money kept in your account, it is simply just a guarantee, and then the Banks go lend out and shop your money to bring in returns -- this is how modern fractional reserve banking works. Technically, if I recall, Banks only need to keep 10% of their reserves and they can go gamble the rest away.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers...el-iii.asp

Post: #574

(01-10-2019 04:07 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  To be fair, they're charging a service charge. Why would they just hold your money for free?

Because it's money.

It's not just sitting there idly, it's being used for speculation and other activities from which they earn more money for themselves.
And not only am I getting nothing out of all this, but I have to pay for them to be willing to take it from me.

Am I really the only one here who finds this crazy ?

(01-10-2019 04:07 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  Most of the time also, the bank doesn't charge your account if you maintain above a certain amount in the account.

Yup, saw this in switzerland, starting from seven thousand francs on your account which is reasonable for most people over there.
Never saw it in france or germany though.

Post: #575

Get around that by using Custodial banks.