Post: #1

I had a same night lay with this chick that I met on Saturday. She may have been the hottest girl I've ever banged, and it was some of the best sex I've had in years. She really digged me and was already talking about what we would do next time we saw each other.

Two days later, the following conversation occurred:









A few considerations:

a) My excuse was completely valid: I actually felt like shit and ended up going to bed early and sleeping for 12 hours. I didn't want to drink or get laid even if it meant losing out on her.

b) I had already offered to hang Wed/Fri - if I had agreed to meet up with her that day it would make me look too available.

c) Note the time delay after I asked her availability. There's a good chance she was trying to figure out what other guys she could schedule in at the last minute.



She hasn't responded since then. I can't recall ever turning down a prospect like that in such an overt and honest way, and I'm actually a little surprised I did, though I have zero regrets.

Most women probably assume that guys care so much about sex that turning them down means they're either: not interested, have low T/low libido, or are homosexual. And considering her attractiveness, I do wonder if this has ever happened to her before.



I'm not making this thread for advice on how to proceed (i'm simply waiting to see if she texts back), but how this sort of behavior might effect the typical girl like her with a fairly high SMV (she's 22, tall, brunette, big ass and tits).

Have you ever done something like this (whether calculated or not) ? What was the result?

Post: #2

Women get pissed or freaked out if they are interested in you and you don't close the deal. Thats all Im gonna say....

Post: #3

The get very pissed and irrational after a direct sexual rejection - it really doesn't increase attraction.

I think they go into ego protect mode.

Post: #4

(12-11-2018 05:42 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  The get very pissed and irrational after a direct sexual rejection - it really doesn't increase attraction.

I think they go into ego protect mode.

I figured she already knew I was interested and would understand."Oh no big deal, hope you feel better!" would be a response from a psychologically healthy individual. And hell, I could have easily come up with some lame excuse but I thought my candidness would be appreciated.

The sense of entitlement is simply astounding though - asking someone out at the last minute on a late Monday night, then getting butthurt when they say no? Women really are like children sometimes.

Post: #5

>>She hasn't responded since then.

You don't have enough information to spin all these theories about butthurt, etc. Flake is the most obvious explanation and so you should proceed on that basis. That is, do what you normally so when an excellent prospect disappears. Typically, wait awhile then reinitiate contact.

As for turning girls down for sex, been doing it all my life and still do it. I will not tolerate an insufferable bitch with attitude in my life, no matter how hot, not even as a booty call, and I've always been that way. And yes, the women I reject react very negatively. I don't care. Sex is a short lived pleasure whereas the pain of having allowed a bitch into my life grates on me indefinitely. Also, enemies are better than bad friends, since I know to watch out for the former whereas the latter hit me when and where I least expect it.

Post: #6

Turning down a woman for sex is something you will likely do again. Understand most will move on to the next dick, but that's perfectly fine.

Post: #7

Only women who consider themselves to be of higher value than you will get pissed and stop talking to you if you turn them down for sex. The other ones will still come around.

I also turn down girls for sex quite a lot. Sometimes cause I just don't feel like it (like in the mornings, I almost always turn down morning sex) or if they have a stuck up attitude. Then I next them. If you let a girl shit on your dignity and disrespect you just so you can fuck her then you're a nobody in my book and your character and life will suffer because of it in the long run.

Post: #8

(12-11-2018 06:56 PM)Shemp Wrote:  You don't have enough information to spin all these theories about butthurt, etc. Flake is the most obvious explanation and so you should proceed on that basis. That is, do what you normally so when an excellent prospect disappears. Typically, wait awhile then reinitiate contact.

Is she really an excellent prospect though? Apparently she is very attractive, but he has already had his way with her once and now she flakes on him. Obviously a real slut and on top of it someone who considers themselves out of Batman_'s league. I personally wouldn't reinitiate any contact ever. She is a waste of time.

Post: #9

By the way, I don't like your response in that last message "I have a bad headache - I think someone poisoned me". It sounds very weak and frail. I think this is why she stopped responding to you. Better to just say "I can't tonight". You don't have to give her a reason. She didn't tell you what she had planned for Wednesday (obviously hooking up with some other dude).

I also think you messed up when you texted her again after those messages. If she had even an ounce of respect for you she would've replied with a "Oh, I'm sorry to hear that get well soon" or something similar when you brought up the headache, instead she just ignored you. She obviously thinks very low of you.

Post: #10

(12-12-2018 09:55 AM)Jozi Wrote:  By the way, I don't like your response in that last message "I have a bad headache - I think someone poisoned me". It sounds very weak and frail. I think this is why she stopped responding to you. Better to just say "I can't tonight". You don't have to give her a reason. She didn't tell you what she had planned for Wednesday (obviously hooking up with some other dude).

I also think you messed up when you texted her again after those messages. If she had even an ounce of respect for you she would've replied with a "Oh, I'm sorry to hear that get well soon" or something similar when you brought up the headache, instead she just ignored you. She obviously thinks very low of you.

My second text was sent immediately after the first, but yes I can see your point. And actually I sort of downplayed how poorly I actually felt - I couldn't even walk straight without losing my balance. But that's besides the point.

I don't think she had a low opinion of me prior to that exchange. She was really digging me - puppy dog eyes and wouldn't stop touching me and complimenting me. So those two texts must have completely flipped her opinion of me either by offending her and/or making me look weak. Next time something like this happens I'll make sure not to give a reason.

Post: #11

You already fucked her, you won.

Where you messed up in your texts is the last exchange.

You made a statement, you didn't counter offer, or tell her you'll hit her up when you feel better, or reply with another question.

If that was me, I would of said I had a long day at work and I'm exhausted OR even better "you already have plans"

Then I would've countered offer her with another day

EX:

Girl: Come get a drink with me.

Option 1 You: "I already have plans, let's grab a drink when you get back next Weds, sound good?"

Option 2 You: "Honestly I feel like shit and I'm exhausted from work, let's raincheck and I'll take you out when you get back next Weds, sound good?"

Personally I like option 1 - leaves things vague, and you counter offered, her response will gauge how much she's interested in seeing you again.

Also, keep in contact when she's on her trip, tell her "PS I expect you to send me some pretty cool pics from Florida"

Post: #12

(12-11-2018 07:07 PM)lunchmoney Wrote:  Turning down a woman for sex is something you will likely do again. Understand most will move on to the next dick, but that's perfectly fine.

Quote:The get very pissed and irrational after a direct sexual rejection - it really doesn't increase attraction.
I think they go into ego protect mode.

I dont agree. Women NEVER get turned down for sex or even a date. For me its ALWAYS an attraction builder. Sometimes I even deny a girl the first date just to be sure she doesnt flake on the second.

Btw I think its because I have spent too much time in East-Europe but there are way too many question-marks for me in that interaction.

Thats like text game 101, dont ask, just plan or notify.

Post: #13

(12-11-2018 05:49 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 05:42 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  The get very pissed and irrational after a direct sexual rejection - it really doesn't increase attraction.

I think they go into ego protect mode.

I figured she already knew...

You assumed

ass /u /me

"Makes an ass of u and me"

Its especially true when it comes to thinking women process available info the same way you (a man ) do (does)

Post: #14

Yea, agree the last message was weak, but I think she saw it as more of a rejection than anything. If you only banged her once, she probably thinks it was an excuse to get out of a 2nd meeting. She might even think that you think she's a bad lay lol.

Despite the thot and battlecunt epidemic, women are still fragile creatures. I've offended and (accidentally) rejected women who take the slightest sign of aloofness as a rejection. So whatever.

Post: #15

It's funny women will go dance slutty at a bar and reject 20 dudes, go to her work and reject more dudes, flake on dudes she meets through online dating. But goddamn if she gets rejected just 1 time it's met with a vicious and extreme reaction. They're wired to win all the time, they can't handle it not going their way. Most men accept some level of failure and keep trying, but girls are wired in the most ruthless way to serve themselves. Someone on here wrote they're like a pussy casino, the house always wins and are meant to never lose. It's so unusual to them. They're like Floyd Mayweather boxing except it's innate in them without any instruction or assistance needed.
Men need to stop feeling bad for rejecting or ignoring them.

Post: #16

Too much deep analysis - maybe she decided to stay in or hooked up with another dude...but she may still be open to see you after the FL trip. Just ask her for drinks when she back. No head games...

Post: #17

OP your story doesn't make sense. If you had such a bad headache why did you text her? If you had no interest in sex that day then how did you even think about meeting this girl on Friday? You have to feel horny or miss a girl before messaging her...

Incongruence killed you, she saw that you overplan things and don't act naturally--a monumental turnoff.

Her pussy got dryer than the Sahara desert, and she probably had to take a shower to feel less embarrassed about banging such an low value guy. Guys like you fuck up these girls and make them a nightmare for everyone; stop following a rule book and start acting naturally; if you can't, strengthen your mind until you can.

You have to be able to trust your masculine essence 100% and do things from that place of strength and confidence; overthinking is a man's worst enemy when it comes to women; they simply aren't something to think about; your balls are equipped to handle women, not your brain.

Post: #18

(12-11-2018 05:20 PM)Headbang Wrote:  Women get pissed or freaked out if they are interested in you and you don't close the deal. Thats all Im gonna say....

True and they start hate and talking bad about you haha...

Post: #19

And sometimes they even have you imprisoned by Pharaoh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuleikha_(tradition)

Or burnt at the stake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbain_Grandier

Post: #20

Seems she was horny right then and you happened to be in the right place at the right time, you said no, so your no use to her that minute, then your forgotten. She will not be telling her friends about you or how hot you are or that she had the best sex ever.
She will not be trying to work out what happened as she has 100s more to choose from in a second.

It sucks but thats just how it is now.

Post: #21

(12-12-2018 10:37 PM)Flux Wrote:  OP your story doesn't make sense. If you had such a bad headache why did you text her? If you had no interest in sex that day then how did you even think about meeting this girl on Friday? You have to feel horny or miss a girl before messaging her...

Incongruence killed you, she saw that you overplan things and don't act naturally--a monumental turnoff.

??? Since when do you have to feel horny to text someone? I hate texting 100% of the time - I do it out of necessity. I didn't want to get laid on Monday but figured I would on Friday, that's all.

Quote:Her pussy got dryer than the Sahara desert, and she probably had to take a shower to feel less embarrassed about banging such an low value guy. Guys like you fuck up these girls and make them a nightmare for everyone; stop following a rule book and start acting naturally; if you can't, strengthen your mind until you can.

You have to be able to trust your masculine essence 100% and do things from that place of strength and confidence; overthinking is a man's worst enemy when it comes to women; they simply aren't something to think about; your balls are equipped to handle women, not your brain.

What the fuck are you on about? I wasn't overthinking or overgaming anything. In fact quite the opposite - I did exactly what my gut told me to do. Of course there is analysis afterwards, but that's how it should go. Same thing for cold approach - act confident and spontaneous while you're out, analyze on your off days.

Post: #22

Men that have the luxury of rejection a woman, have multiple options. Women will wan't you more since you have been pre-selected by other women. Only a small group of men have that luxury, other men don't. It's how the game goes.

Post: #23

I don´t see anything bad about rejecting invitation for sex. I see it as totally normal thing, especially if we banged at least 2 times before. Once you bang her, then it´s who cares. These girls hit you again in few days, weeks, months or never. It´s sucks to lose really hot plate, but it´s just something in their heads and it can´t be rationally explained. Either they will come back or no.

What I see as a problem is not taking an action when she wants it, especially at very hot girls. This is a mistake that can´t be taken back and you leave the game even without a bang.