Post: #1

Anyone ever f-closed an online date on the first night? I can get my share of dates on sites like Match etc....but I always take it slow because that seems to have the most success. When I push it, they usually get scared away, but if i go out first date, don't touch them, lay back, become a challenge, i usually get a second date and then we are off.

But I'm starting to think that maybe i should just run higher numbers and try to close on the first date instead of doing the basic "meet-up" date that online dating seems to make famous. I have also noticed that even when i push hard on the second date, they get scared away and flake even if i have success. It's like i need to wait until date four to f-close in order to build enough comfort and keep them from freaking out.

For instance, last night, went out with this chick from eastern Europe and we grabbed a drink, but I kept it short and ended the date early so I can create some challenge. I'm pretty sure I have the second date locked up and that's where I'll move more phsycial, but I was just curious if there are guys out there that try to close dates online on the first night and if they had success?

I know in Roosh's book Bang he says to push hard early, but I feel like online dating is a bit different than getting some chicks number in the open and then setting up a date.

What do you think?

Post: #2

http://hokieblogger.com/2011/08/09/weigh...rst-dates/

My percentages in the comments.

In a nutshell for the TLDR's, it's easier to bang a girl on the first date if you met her online.

Post: #3

(04-02-2012 11:43 AM)Gmac Wrote:  http://hokieblogger.com/2011/08/09/weigh...rst-dates/

My percentages in the comments.

In a nutshell for the TLDR's, it's easier to bang a girl on the first date if you met her online.

That's interesting. I have never actually pushed hard for the same night lay with online dating. Do you just treat it like it's a normal first date with someone you met at a bar?

Post: #4

it's easier to bang a girl on the first date if you met her online.

Post: #5

Since I live in the country, outside a small town (a small town to me is 2500 people, not 50K like some here), I run online game a bit differently.

Saying that, I have around a 90% F close rate on first dates. This is because I spend a lot of time communicating with these broads before ever meeting as I usually have to travel an hour or more and do not want to waste a trip for no ass. Or, I am simply in town for work and will not be staying long. I get sexy talk going by dropping innuendos to get her going and simply escalate from there.

I also generally don't meet for dates, rather go to her place or she comes to the hotel I am staying at. The most I'll do for a date is meet at a bar for a few drinks, some are nervous about meeting in private even after all the shit they say on the phone, before heading back to wherever we are going to close the deal.

I may take a week getting a broad warmed up before meeting her and yes, some drop out but not very many. The ones that stick it out are almost guaranteed to be DTF when we do finally meet.

And no, sex is not all I talk about but it is consistently there so they know what's gonna happen. I'm just not blunt about it generally.

Like GMAC says, after the prep work it's like a second or third date when we finally meet as we know a fair bit about each other.

Well, I know more about her than she knows about me...

Post: #6

(04-02-2012 12:26 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  I also generally don't meet for dates, rather go to her place or she comes to the hotel I am staying at. The most I'll do for a date is meet at a bar for a few drinks, some are nervous about meeting in private even after all the shit they say on the phone, before heading back to wherever we are going to close the deal.

If you're at a hotel with a bar, logistics are already taken care of.

Post: #7

heh Yeah, but I'm a cheap bastard when I'm staying at hotels near the worksite.

Hell, a lot of places don't even have hotels with bars.

Since I'm generally on the worksite for 14 hours about all I do in the room is sleep and occasionally fuck so I don't go high end if it's available.

Nice thing is I pretty much sit in my truck all day so plenty of time to spend online as long as I can get a reception on my phone for the wireless.

Back to the OP, since I have generally had to travel for online snatch my text game has gotten very good and I just default to the taking it slower to meet thing as that's what I am used to. Even if I could meet the broad the same or next day I'll play it out for several days.

And yes, I have unlimited texting on my phone.

Post: #8

In my experience, a first date bang with a girl I've met online is more the norm than an exception. I do my online gaming on POF for the most part and I could count on one hand the number of girls that I didn't close by second meet, many on the first.

Like a previous poster accurately pointed out, when you're gaming online, you can establish a lot of attraction and comfort via email, TXT and phone game before you even meet. When you do meet, I find things progress much more quickly.

I typically exchange a few emails, then TXT, then phone and then meet for a drink. If I've done my work properly beforehand, a quick bang is almost guaranteed. These POF girls, especially in my area are DTF quickly.

Post: #9

(04-02-2012 12:26 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Since I live in the country, outside a small town (a small town to me is 2500 people, not 50K like some here), I run online game a bit differently.

Saying that, I have around a 90% F close rate on first dates. This is because I spend a lot of time communicating with these broads before ever meeting as I usually have to travel an hour or more and do not want to waste a trip for no ass. Or, I am simply in town for work and will not be staying long. I get sexy talk going by dropping innuendos to get her going and simply escalate from there.

I also generally don't meet for dates, rather go to her place or she comes to the hotel I am staying at. The most I'll do for a date is meet at a bar for a few drinks, some are nervous about meeting in private even after all the shit they say on the phone, before heading back to wherever we are going to close the deal.

I may take a week getting a broad warmed up before meeting her and yes, some drop out but not very many. The ones that stick it out are almost guaranteed to be DTF when we do finally meet.

And no, sex is not all I talk about but it is consistently there so they know what's gonna happen. I'm just not blunt about it generally.

Like GMAC says, after the prep work it's like a second or third date when we finally meet as we know a fair bit about each other.

Well, I know more about her than she knows about me...

This is the key right here. If you've communicated online enough before that first meeting, you can build comfort. Try to take your communication off-site, to chat or webcam/videocall. Naturally, talking by phone also. It's also important which site you used. Some, like Match.com and eharmony are geared towards relationship/marriage, not hookup. Pick a site where chicks are more likely to not want to bullshit and go right in hard. Of chicks I've fucked off of sites, I did the messages on site, to chat, to videocall, to cell, to meeting, to fucking the first in-person meeting. The one I hit in London was second night just because she had to get home. We went out again the next night and I closed. For local chicks you should be able to progress much quicker.

Post: #10

I`m a big online dating site gamer and have had lots of success. I think the key as previously mentioned is getting in a bit of communicating with the girl before meeting up. Get a bit flirty and be funny with them and never be the needy desperate sounding type of guy.Have fun and have a don`t care type of attitude. Then when you do actually meet up, its not as daunting because of the prior communications you have had with her. Just go with the flow - be a little flirty with her, try some kino escalation and in most cases she will be DTF. If not on first date then most likely on the 2nd date.

Post: #11

I don't think this really needed it's own thread considering we already have this one: /thread-3601.html

Post: #12

I usually sat "WHAT THE FUCK?!!" when i don't get some ass the first "date" from an online girl. The date usually consists of coming over to my living room, getting fucked up and pulling my dick out. Try to get her over and get the drinks going man. Most online girls just want some dick. You should be able to tell if they're actually looking for a relationship before y'all even meet up.

Post: #13

(04-03-2012 02:58 AM)houston Wrote:  I usually sat "WHAT THE FUCK?!!" when i don't get some ass the first "date" from an online girl. The date usually consists of coming over to my living room, getting fucked up and pulling my dick out. Try to get her over and get the drinks going man. Most online girls just want some dick. You should be able to tell if they're actually looking for a relationship before y'all even meet up.

I would say that if they come to your house when they've never met you before, yeah, she probably just wants to getting fucked. If you're meeting out somewhere, you still need to sell it a little. Just make sure you're the same dude she's been communicating with, and you should be golden.

Post: #14

I thought the point of online dating was to have a first night fuck?

The only time I didnt get laid on a first date with a chick online is if she was really sketchy.

Like Uncle Roosh says...always go for the bang

Post: #15

I've been away from the on-line dating world since 2005.

When I was there, I was in my late 40s. My target population was women between 30 and 45.

I never got laid on a first date, but I got laid on EVERY second date.

My hypothesis: all of them were DTF by the end of the first date, but we're telling themselves. "I'm not the kind of girl who fucks on the first date." So they all wanted a second date to feed their hamster.

Post: #16

(04-04-2012 08:49 AM)DecoHappy Wrote:  I've been away from the on-line dating world since 2005.

When I was there, I was in my late 40s. My target population was women between 30 and 45.

I never got laid on a first date, but I got laid on EVERY second date.

My hypothesis: all of them were DTF by the end of the first date, but we're telling themselves. "I'm not the kind of girl who fucks on the first date." So they all wanted a second date to feed their hamster.

I hear ya. That's where I am right now, and I target 35 to 45, a little older if she's kept herself tight. Most are first-nighters, with one holdout for second night. If you work them right online, but the time you meet they can't wait to fuck you.