Post: #351

(07-15-2018 01:56 PM)pirate Wrote:  I'm an Afrikaner. I have met alot of colleaugues/randoms born to South African parents in Australia and New zealand.

They are indistinguishable from the locals, I wouldn't have known if they didnt tell me.

I notice girls from South African families in NZ are on average considerably(1-2 points) hotter than the local Kiwi girls. Often more psychologically well-adjusted too.

Post: #352

If the afrikaners didn't invade land that wasn't their's and began engaging in mass atrocities against the natives this wouldn't happened. This is fair game due to what they did.Apartheid was literal hell for the SA blacks. It's very hypocritical of you guys being against the so -called "migrant" invasion but at the same time being for European invasion and destruction of others lands.

Afrikaners are know for the trouble, poverty and destruction they caused throughout southern Africa, To even suggest that South africa is their "homeland" while maintaining a straight face is utter craziness. They came from Holland and France with guns and claimed that the land were theirs and took it. They abused the natives and made them non-citizens in their own land

First and foremost what the Afrikaners did to the natives is far worse then genocide. Why are you guys behaving like that the Afrikaner invaders were peaceful humans who came to enlighten the Africans. It's better that you guys in this thread are honest we all know that you have hatred in your hearts for darker skin humans. Your double standard proves this instantly.

You are against a black or arab migrating to western nations. You claim because they are on a mission to destroy western civilization. Have we come to Europe with machine guns forcing you to leave your home? Have we taken your belongings our YOUR land ? Have we removed your government and installed our own? The answer is plain no but still you guys see this as a invasion?

Why? Because you only care about what could effect you. You only care about what could benefit your life's. You're entirely consumed with your weird little superiority complex. You simply only care about what's good for you and your race. But Africans aren't allowed to think like this, Then your blood boils and you claim that were are simple savages with low levels of IQ.

You claim that everything good about Africa is derived from Europeans, You claim that Germanic peoples which most whites have roots from are more smart and sophisticated then others. That's very retarded logic and quite funny. The Germanic peoples didn't create the basis of western civilization they took it from the Romans and greeks while they destroyed them. Before this your ancestors were cave-dwelling serial masturbators with no inkling of human civilization or greatness. Everything before the Roman destruction was primitive and non-existent in the lands of your supposedly great ancestors. Your forefathers came from us, Always remember that you guys are my grandchildren.


Why is it that when whites invade African lands repeatedly or other places you don't see it as a invasion even when it clearly is. Why is it? Do you guys wan't everyone in the world to be white? Do you wan't destroy others cultures and nations? Because that is what you guys are alluding to.

Post: #353

No, of course we don't "wan't" to destroy other cultures and nations and we care very much about how this misconception "effects" the world's view of us.

Grabbing some popcorn for the responses to this, man this is going to be entertaining.

Post: #354

I was about to type out a long response then I noticed the Swedish flag.

Post: #355

Lol like Scotland is a bastion for red pillness

Post: #356

(07-15-2018 09:02 PM)VisionsofGandhi Wrote:  If the afrikaners didn't invade land that wasn't their's and began engaging in mass atrocities against the natives this wouldn't happened. This is fair game due to what they did.Apartheid was literal hell for the SA blacks. It's very hypocritical of you guys being against the so -called "migrant" invasion but at the same time being for European invasion and destruction of others lands.

Afrikaners are know for the trouble, poverty and destruction they caused throughout southern Africa, To even suggest that South africa is their "homeland" while maintaining a straight face is utter craziness. They came from Holland and France with guns and claimed that the land were theirs and took it. They abused the natives and made them non-citizens in their own land

First and foremost what the Afrikaners did to the natives is far worse then genocide. Why are you guys behaving like that the Afrikaner invaders were peaceful humans who came to enlighten the Africans. It's better that you guys in this thread are honest we all know that you have hatred in your hearts for darker skin humans. Your double standard proves this instantly.

You are against a black or arab migrating to western nations. You claim because they are on a mission to destroy western civilization. Have we come to Europe with machine guns forcing you to leave your home? Have we taken your belongings our YOUR land ? Have we removed your government and installed our own? The answer is plain no but still you guys see this as a invasion?

Why? Because you only care about what could effect you. You only care about what could benefit your life's. You're entirely consumed with your weird little superiority complex. You simply only care about what's good for you and your race. But Africans aren't allowed to think like this, Then your blood boils and you claim that were are simple savages with low levels of IQ.

You claim that everything good about Africa is derived from Europeans, You claim that Germanic peoples which most whites have roots from are more smart and sophisticated then others. That's very retarded logic and quite funny. The Germanic peoples didn't create the basis of western civilization they took it from the Romans and greeks while they destroyed them. Before this your ancestors were cave-dwelling serial masturbators with no inkling of human civilization or greatness. Everything before the Roman destruction was primitive and non-existent in the lands of your supposedly great ancestors. Your forefathers came from us, Always remember that you guys are my grandchildren.


Why is it that when whites invade African lands repeatedly or other places you don't see it as a invasion even when it clearly is. Why is it? Do you guys wan't everyone in the world to be white? Do you wan't destroy others cultures and nations? Because that is what you guys are alluding to.

Most of the tribes the afrikaners displaced were non-native to their areas, as they displaced other african tribes a short time earlier. So how far back to you have to go before finding someone who isn't an "invader"?

Post: #357

(07-15-2018 09:02 PM)VisionsofGandhi Wrote:  Snip.........

A couple of things.

One, I do agree with VisionsofGhandi on the fact that South Africa are not the ancestral homelands of the Afrikaaners. I don't care if South Africa was empty when the Afrikaaners first arrived. The white South Africans have only been there, what, 400 or 500 years? No way in hell does that make South Africa ancestral homelands to ethnic Europeans, and to say otherwise is laughable. To have claim to ancestral homelands, people need to have been there for thousands (plural) of years, not hundreds.

The Afrikaaners will never be African, they will always be European in the same way that Africans in Europe will always be Africans. Hundreds of years does not replace tens of thousands of years of history.

With that being said, VisionsofGhandi, I think your history is a bit off. Admittedly, my historical knowledge on South Africa or Africa in general is very weak. However, to the best of my knowledge, the Europeans colonized South Africa when it was pretty much an empty land or sparsely inhabited land. It certainly was not comparable to the colonization of North and South America by the British, French, Spanish and Portuguese.

On the topic of VisionsOfGhandi being the "grandfather" of ethnic Europeans, I would like to remind him that the "Out Of Africa" theory is exactly that, a theory. It has not been proven and nobody knows for certain if we all came from Africa. It's has been proven, however, that Asians and Europeans interbred with the Neanderthals while the Africans did not. So, that makes it even more murky. Don't get me wrong, I'm very open to the idea, but lets not pretend that it's an absolute fact when it's far from it.

The situation in South Africa is messy, and I don't pretend to know the solution. The ethnic Europeans built the country of South Africa to what it is today, but that country is not the ancestral homelands of the ethnic Europeans. It's a sticky and complex situation. With that being said, it's a crying shame that no western country is extending a helping hand to the European diaspora in this part of the world.

Finally, it's very disturbing to see how a first or second generation Somali immigrant to Sweden (I think VisionsOfGhandi mentioned that here on RVF before) talks about Europeans in general.

The world has seen what Europeans are capable of when we get pissed off. Fear not, VisionsOfGhandi, for you won't have to worry about us "primitive cave-dwelling serial masturbators" for much longer. Rest assured, by the end of the century if things keep going the way that they are going, you and your grandchildren will be back in glorious Africa in no time.

Only this time, under Chinese rule, which will ultimately be better than anything else that has come out of the shithole known as Somalia.

Post: #358

Funny thing is that the way i were talking about the glorious Europeans and the language i used describing them, Is used regularly when talking about Africans and other blacks in this site. Especially by several members in this particular thread who don't ever let one day pass without using names such as "savages" repeatedly to talk about Africans or other blacks.

Lol, A European soy boy is no match to Somali nomadic warrior. What are Europeans capable of? For the majority of history you guys were the designated shithole. The only time you ever managed to win against others are when you had a clear technological advantage. No spine so far i see.

What do you expect that i will bow down for you? That because your white you deserve my respect and admiration, Don't you know that White color is a mutation caused by a recessive gene coming from interbreeding, This means that they fucked Neanderthal animals plus their cousins, mothers and sisters as well. Wouldn't surprise me if they fucked their dogs to.

If you feel that what i stated was to harsh remember that a big part in this forum repeatedly mentions the well known hoax and blatant lie that blacks are of low iq

Let's go back to the invaders, What we know is that South Africa under boer rule was a terrorist regime during the majority of it's existence. Which the boers will ultimately pray the price for. In my opinion it's best for them to leave. You don't want the zulu to get angry it never ends well for their enemies.

Post: #359

(07-16-2018 02:19 AM)VisionsofGandhi Wrote:  Funny thing is that the way i were talking about the glorious Europeans and the language i used describing them, Is used regularly when talking about Africans and other blacks in this site. Especially by several members in this particular thread who don't ever let one day pass without using names such as "savages" repeatedly to talk about Africans or other blacks.

Lol, A European soy boy is no match to Somali nomadic warrior. What are Europeans capable of? For the majority of history you guys were the designated shithole. The only time you ever managed to win against others are when you had a clear technological advantage. No spine so far i see.

What do you expect that i will bow down for you? That because your white you deserve my respect and admiration, Don't you know that White color is a mutation caused by a recessive gene coming from interbreeding, This means that they fucked Neanderthal animals plus their cousins, mothers and sisters as well. Wouldn't surprise me if they fucked their dogs to.

If you feel that what i stated was to harsh remember that a big part in this forum repeatedly mentions the well known hoax and blatant lie that blacks are of low iq

Let's go back to the invaders, What we know is that South Africa under boer rule was a terrorist regime during the majority of it's existence. Which the boers will ultimately pray the price for. In my opinion it's best for them to leave. You don't want the zulu to get angry it never ends well for their enemies.

We Wuz Kangz gonna We Wuz Kangz.

Don't feed the troll folks.

Post: #360

Stop with the foolishness Contagion. A neanderthal animal is waiting in bed to please you.

Post: #361

(07-16-2018 02:19 AM)VisionsofGandhi Wrote:  Funny thing is that the way i were talking about the glorious Europeans and the language i used describing them, Is used regularly when talking about Africans and other blacks in this site. Especially by several members in this particular thread who don't ever let one day pass without using names such as "savages" repeatedly to talk about Africans or other blacks.

Lol, A European soy boy is no match to Somali nomadic warrior. What are Europeans capable of? For the majority of history you guys were the designated shithole. The only time you ever managed to win against others are when you had a clear technological advantage. No spine so far i see.

What do you expect that i will bow down for you? That because your white you deserve my respect and admiration, Don't you know that White color is a mutation caused by a recessive gene coming from interbreeding, This means that they fucked Neanderthal animals plus their cousins, mothers and sisters as well. Wouldn't surprise me if they fucked their dogs to.

If you feel that what i stated was to harsh remember that a big part in this forum repeatedly mentions the well known hoax and blatant lie that blacks are of low iq

Let's go back to the invaders, What we know is that South Africa under boer rule was a terrorist regime during the majority of it's existence. Which the boers will ultimately pray the price for. In my opinion it's best for them to leave. You don't want the zulu to get angry it never ends well for their enemies.

Lies lies and only lies. The wheel hasn't been invented in most African countries until the Europeans came in the 1820-30s. There haven't been any 2-story buildings except for Abyssinia with a 30% Euro-admixture and Christian religion.

There have been even recent tests done in South African colleges, but it's all a lie. Must be all oppression, White devil's fault. Must be all White oppression too for North Asians to do extremely well wherever they settle.

Screaming and hollering about facts being lies does not make it true. And if you cannot understand the difference between averages and single cases, then there is no helping you either.

Post: #362

Since when are Southern Semites from Yemen of Euro-admixture? Why don't you let your hatred against us wither in to the sky and begin using facts in your arguments

I know it's hard but it's what men do. Aren't you of Germanic descent?. Are you aware of the fact that your ancestors where low intelligence barbarians who couldn't even eject a simple stone building until the Romans came and helped you out. I know it hurts but it's the truth accept it for once.

If Africans are of Low IQ why do nigerian and kenyan students do much better then kids of Anglo descent in the UK. You're blood brothers are barely even making the cut. It seems like their brain stopped working at the age of 4 but hopefully new technology can restore them to a sufficient level of intelligence perhaps if things go well around the level of turtles , cats and other animals. In the same level as the old germanic barbarian tribes.

Post: #363

Simeon i will gracefully accept defeat if you actually could prove me wrong step by step in my first post in this thread.

It will be impossible but i would like to see you try

Post: #364

Do you know what selective bias is? Many of the African and Caribbean immigrants coming to the West are some of the smartest and most educated ones.

You get tens of millions of Africans above an IQ of 95, which should suffice to do many jobs and succeed.

The IQ aspect is actually not really up for debate - it's a scientific fact - a so-called hate-fact now. It's part of the global claims that there are no fixed genders and that men and women are equal under all aspects. In some colleges you cannot even state that men are stronger and taller than women on average.





Alternative Hypothesis has a lot of videos out with an insane amount of studies on his site.

Or you hear it from a black MENSA member - or go check out Renegade of Funk https://righteousruminations.blogspot.com.





And this is just tens of thousands of years of evolution. Northern - White and Asian societies take longer to develop due to the climate, selected simply for a more necessitous higher IQ, but they are far more stable and progressive once they start going. When you have a different climate in a hunter-gatherer society then the advantages of a 75 vs 140 IQ guy are close to nil. The faster runner, stronger hunter will have the best competitive advantage. And nature does not spend more than necessary on added energy expenditure - brain power or muscle mass.

However that is by no means any definitive statement. African countries could easily help along evolution by positive eugenics - the smartest men having the most children. Within a few generations you close the gap or just keep on going until you pass every other tribe. And trust me - you would be looking at a highly different tribe then.

I have no beef on that topic - I am mainly interested in truth. And I accept intellectual superiors to me like the 160-IQ black Renegade of Funk. If you for example put the 10 million smartest blacks into a country, then you would find very quickly that it would become more like Switzerland. Sure - a positive economic and social system helps, but even Euro-level of communism was different than African countries attempting communism.

Anyway - there is a lot of data out there on the topic. If you just listen to the mainstream, then you won't be any wiser because the globalists spread lies to get their global empire going and wipe out the hegemony of White Western states, so of course they cannot tell the truth just as they cannot tell the truth about women and their highly different psychology/mental makeup.

Post: #365

(07-15-2018 09:02 PM)VisionsofGandhi Wrote:  Why? Because you only care about what could effect you. You only care about what could benefit your life's. You're entirely consumed with your weird little superiority complex. You simply only care about what's good for you and your race. But Africans aren't allowed to think like this, Then your blood boils and you claim that were are simple savages with low levels of IQ.

Think all you like, no one has stopped you........so what has Africa given the world? At a time, when not a white soul had set foot in parts of Africa for your resources, the Renaissance was giving the world towering feats of engineering, architecture and literature, the flowing with riches Africa still couldn't do squat.

I laugh when they talk about Oral tradition being literature, says it all really.

What were Europeans given? Nothing. Who gave us our head start? Nobody. We didn't have to be told to go after the starting gun was fired! Europe is resource deficient and always was and STILL we managed to pull a civilization off. What was Africa's excuse? How many civilisations fell and rose in Europe for thousands of years, yet Africa never built one at all.

Africans are sitting on top of the most resource dense continent in history, if anything they should have been the first people to do something with and yet they didn't.

Time for Africans to start thinking about what is good for their race and they can do so.....at home. By themselves. I won't hold my breath however.

I do look forward to the Wakanda football matches played with diamonds though. That I can be certain of.

Post: #366

You are a Celt though, The romans did give you a head start before the romans what did the Irish give the world?

Post: #367

(07-16-2018 04:03 AM)VisionsofGandhi Wrote:  You are a Celt though, The romans did give you a head start before the romans what did the Irish give the world?

The submarine

The armoured tracked tank

The modern tractor (Massey Ferguson)

Seismography

The hypodermic syringe

Early colour photography

The ejector seat.

The cure to leprosy while looking for one to cure TB.

Post: #368

Romans were White and so were the Greeks. So it was simply a different tribe and the Roman civilization height was all gone when the Northern European tribes rebuilt it. If we are technical, then Indians reached a higher level than the Romans before them. And over there it's easily explainable as well - the castes which had the know-how were indeed smarter and for a medieval society that is all you need - a significantly high amount of smart people in a sea of illiterates. You require however a smarter people for an industrial or our post-industrial society.

I might add that it's really funny for supposed white supremacists to give East Asians a higher 106 IQ and Ashkenazi Jews an even higher one. Very few people know that Hitler threw out the science-based IQ tests, because he did not like the results - he came up with an Aryan history bullshit test. Thus - don't be like Hitler - heh!

Post: #369

This were individuals . You can't take pride in something others have achieved just because you have similar genetic traits.

Post: #370

I am not taking pride per se personally. I belong to the Euro-tribe in this life. But since I believe in reincarnation, then Soul gets reborn in all tribes.

Still - currently the tribes have evolved different physical and mental capabilities that manifest itself in different societies they build. It takes one smart positive ruler from a small country like Togo to change things. When that ruler creates a positive eugenics policy and creates a real-life Wakanda, then the rest may follow.

If for example Chinese wanted to have the best sprinters and have the top 10 be 80% Chinese at the Olympics - then they can do so too - have the fastest breed with the fastest until maybe in 200 years they may get there and you get some 10 mio. Chinese who are super-athletic.

I personally don't need to take pride in a culture or society to enjoy it. I find the Japanese one sublime and their culture fantastic. Some of the old European ones were also great. Those cultures are a net result of a specific tribe coming with certain metrics of physical and mental abilities and given a better or worse system. Slavery was shit in Roman times and held back the country - or they would have reached the industrial revolution in the year 50. Literacy also rewires the brain and makes all tribes slightly smarter - the elite long feared the peasants to start to read - they thought that they would oust them if they did. But it turned out that getting all those geniuses from the farms and factories was good - they would make even the elite richer.

And by that measure - denying those differences won't get us closer to solving inequality. When you find it to be true you can leave it at that and simply accept that only 1% of blacks vs 12% will become American CEOs (which corresponds to the IQ distribution):



Or you decide to change it by enacting a positive eugenics policy so that in 100 years 10%+ of blacks are CEOs and everyone performs about the same. Heck - we could keep going and raise global IQs. (that would be my choice of action)

But when you study what is going on you find out that the global elite DOES NOT WANT THAT. The last thing they would want is a smarter population - regardless of race. As George Bush once said - if the people found out what we are all doing, then there would be riots tomorrow.

Post: #371

This thread has seriously taken an unproductive turn. There is precious little difference between either camp of racialists.

The most correct view of civilization is a cyclical one. There exists epochs/periods of dominance by certain civilizations rather than sustained dominance (as our European brethren would have us believe). If anything, the claim to greatness probably rests with the Chinese by a long shot - yet white nationalists who are quick to disparage other races on the basis of IQ would have us believe that IQ should be discounted in our analysis of Asians.
White Nationalist: "Asian IQ is solely due to dogged determination and discipline and the Asian is incapable of innovation only bland mimickery".

Allah have mercy, we're talking about the most innovative people in history (see Science and Civilisation in China).

So we have a fluid metric to judge races, one which is easily pliable manipulated to meet one's own cognitive bias.

The problem with South Africa need not be delineated with pernicious racial fixation (I myself have unfortunately fallen prey to this before).

The problem is a starved nation, deprived of accurate information, longing to enjoy imagined luxury has been misled by a radical communist (Julius Malema and his false promises). This in turn has led to a ruling elite caving under pressure and becoming increasing radical given their diminishing support base. Whites being the easiest target given the historical context within which the narrative plays out. A class war has been deferred by the black elite, however, this angst has festered into racially charged incivility with the majority turning on all minorities - including the other sizeable minority, the three percent of Indians in South Africa.

It will not end well but constantly diverting the discussion toward questions of IQ or racial superiority ignores pertinent issues at hand.

Post: #372

That's what i stated repeatedly in other forum discussions. Thousands of civilizations and people hav walked the earth some are still here some are extinct, Like the Hittites, Huns and others the only trace they left are their genetic markers and traits.

The question is who will survive? Who will prosper? That is a question left to be seen. Bye i'm out now.

Post: #373

(07-15-2018 09:02 PM)VisionsofGandhi Wrote:  Why is it that when whites invade African lands repeatedly or other places you don't see it as a invasion even when it clearly is. Why is it? Do you guys wan't everyone in the world to be white? Do you wan't destroy others cultures and nations? Because that is what you guys are alluding to.

No, it was an invasion but last time I checked that was several hundred years ago. And it was super easy because you guys hadn't even invented the bloody wheel yet, let alone had ever built more than a one story straw hut.

Per your b.s. about Germans stealing everything from the Romans. So the Renaissance was Roman? All the social, scientific, and cultural achievements you take for granted today were stolen from the Romans? Wow, your hamster must be on roids....

If we wanted to destroy other cultures we wouldn't keep feeding and saving them. Perhaps what we should do is to withhold any type of aid, e.g. medicine, food, subsidies, etc., for a few years and see what happens. As a matter of fact I believe this is exactly what's going to happen in the coming decade and I am eager to see how in particular Africa and the Middle East will prosper when finally Whites cease to interfere.

Have a good life.

Post: #374

As I noted - you won't find Hitlerian Neonazi talking points here regarding the Chinese.

Civilization is cyclical, but it remains to be seen of why some cultures are far more stable than others.

The Chinese or Japanese could have developed the European industrialization as well. They obviously had sufficient smarts. I think that one of the reason they did not was because they were both uniform nations and they were isolationists. It was the internal competition that likely facilitated the rise in Euro-nations. If for example France had conquered all of Europe in 1200, then it's very much possible that it would not have moved past the Renaissance. Still - as soon as given access to that developmental advantage - the Japanese, and the Chinese with a step back due to communism - they both began to rise to the level their IQ points to.

In medieval and less advanced societies you need much lower IQs - 85 or lower will suffice, because all you need are a few scientists and smarter folk to guide society. Egypt was such an example.

When you move further along, then operating a McDonald's cash registry necessitates a level of 93-94, so large parts of the world would not be qualified to work at a Western McDonald's or would do it badly. They are however more than qualified to work in a medieval economy or even one comparable to 1400 Europe.

Post: #375

Who knows maybe we blacks are happier in our mud huts living a pastoral hunter gathere lifestyle. One mans meat is another mans poison. Perhaps civilisation isnt our thing.

I just hope we dont fall under Islamic rule. I would take the Chinese rather than Arabs.