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RE: U.S. Supreme Court, including Gorsuch nomination
Jeff Flake and John McCain (Republicans in name only) could be very, very dangerous for Trump's appointment plans.
If they both abstain, the VP could break the 49-49 tie. If they both vote against, it's a rejection of the appointment.
It's concerning for sure. McCain in particular seems to want to spend his dying breath lashing out at Trump.
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RE: U.S. Supreme Court, including Gorsuch nomination
(06-28-2018 09:34 AM)Hypno Wrote: DOJ has the power to investigate a judge
They can make public their findings
For example Rhein quits was on medication that caused him to see and hear a hints other people didn’t see or hear. DOJ could investigate RBG health or connections to Russia and publish, which might result in legislation or impeachment. Not saying that she has done anything worthy of investigation or impeachment, just that the President has that power. The limits you state are accurate but Trump like FDR might act unconventionally
They have to have probable cause to investigate her to begin with, otherwise that is a violation of the 4th Amendment. No DOJ (especially today's) is going to bother looking at her, unless they get a referral of some sort. At that point of the matter, that is on congress to address not Trump. The president has no powers to affect any standing judge, period. Once they are sworn in, that is it. Done. Till death. Only congress can remove them, then the president appoint a new candidate. That's it.
Court packing is a throwback to a different time. It likely would not be tolerated in America today. Trump has enough problems, this would make stuff 100 times worse. This was one of the downsides of FDR and how they passed an amendment to limit presidential terms to 2, like George Washington recommended, because he went too far. My personal view, if Trump tried that, an amendment would likely get bipartisan support and be very swift. Just because an exploit hole is still present, does not mean it is wise to use it.
(06-28-2018 09:37 AM)Hypno Wrote: Travelerkai you should reset the history of FDRs relationship with the SCt. It’s a major exception to your view of history.
See above.
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RE: U.S. Supreme Court, including Gorsuch nomination
What are you two talking about? John McCain is not in ICU or some near death state. He will be around to stir shit up for as long as anyone's guess. He has 4 more years to embarrass himself and the idiotic people of Arizona and it will take him drooling and falling over his podium for replacement/removal talks to even be considered.
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RE: U.S. Supreme Court, including Gorsuch nomination
(07-05-2018 12:25 PM)godfather dust Wrote: Excellent, not picking a woman (which would be a disaster, don't care how "conservative" she is.)
Well don't let your guard down yet. There are two more possible judges that could be filled later on, so we could still see one of them.
What I do not want to see is like for like replacements. Such as, a guy steps down, a guy put in, a woman steps down, another woman put in her place. Fuck all that. Put the right man in, regardless. If Clarence steps down, don't go find whatever black man you can find like some bullshit affirmative action hire. If you know anything about Clarence, he would hate Trump to death for doing that.
If one of those women steps down, the press is going to furiously rage out and howl to death for another liberal woman. Many will settle for and hold their breath for a conservative in lambskin woman. Trump should put another man in there white or not, and refuse to budge even an inch on that.
A court stacked with men will go a long way towards key issues not subverting the country deeper than it already has.
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RE: U.S. Supreme Court, including Gorsuch nomination
(07-05-2018 01:33 PM)Hypno Wrote: @ TravelerKai
You may be right but yours is not a mainstream view. Major outlets wrote articles expecting him to step down on July 4. The importance of Kennedy’s replacement to Trumps legacy, and McCains animosity towards Trump and conservative values, might have affected his expected decision to step down
I don’t have a personal view on McCain’s intentions
I did not see any news articles on this before or today when I saw your post and did a quick google check. If you have some proof of his failing health provide a link.
If he was intending to resign, he would very likely hold a presser and make a formal statement with the date he would be stepping down. He is not really the surprise type of person. He's 80. In some ways that is one of the ways we can easily track or monitor him. He's fairly consistent in his behavior by now.
If he had to suddenly step down, it means his health is extremely bad, even for him.
Last article I saw recently says he is in physical therapy:
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...749657002/
July 1 is the date of the article. That is 4 days ago.
Does someone in PT, sound critically ill to you? Not to me. You usually do not get put in PT unless your surgery or treatments were successful.
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RE: U.S. Supreme Court, including Gorsuch nomination
(07-05-2018 03:57 PM)TravelerKai Wrote: (07-05-2018 01:33 PM)Hypno Wrote: @ TravelerKai
You may be right but yours is not a mainstream view. Major outlets wrote articles expecting him to step down on July 4. The importance of Kennedy’s replacement to Trumps legacy, and McCains animosity towards Trump and conservative values, might have affected his expected decision to step down
I don’t have a personal view on McCain’s intentions
I did not see any news articles on this before or today when I saw your post and did a quick google check. If you have some proof of his failing health provide a link.
If he was intending to resign, he would very likely hold a presser and make a formal statement with the date he would be stepping down. He is not really the surprise type of person. He's 80. In some ways that is one of the ways we can easily track or monitor him. He's fairly consistent in his behavior by now.
If he had to suddenly step down, it means his health is extremely bad, even for him.
Last article I saw recently says he is in physical therapy:
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...749657002/
July 1 is the date of the article. That is 4 days ago.
Does someone in PT, sound critically ill to you? Not to me. You usually do not get put in PT unless your surgery or treatments were successful.
Average life expectancy of someone with his type of brain tumor: 12-15 months. Ted Kennedy, who died of the exact same type of tumor, lasted 15 months.
McCain diagnosed July 2017. And he's 80, so i'm going to assume he can't be expected to materially beat the averages. He'll be dead by the fall. Sorry if that seems cold. It's based n the medical situation, not what i'd like to see.
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RE: U.S. Supreme Court, including Gorsuch nomination
If only you knew how bad things really are.
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