Post: #26

Okay, if you're asking me to believe that this woman wasn't solely responsible for this fuckup then you're at least going to have to provide me with a shitload of other minorities to blame.

You can't expect me to just not blame this tragedy on people that look different to me. It's simply not a reasonable proposition.

Post: #27

(03-17-2018 05:56 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Okay, if you're asking me to believe that this woman wasn't solely responsible for this fuckup then you're at least going to have to provide me with a shitload of other minorities to blame.

You can't expect me to just not blame this tragedy on people that look different to me. It's simply not a reasonable proposition.

To be fair, it is the greed and hubris of white men that is at the root of this type of thing. You gotta be pretty corrupt to think it's alright to hand this kind of power to women, presumably thinking the consequences won't affect you.

Post: #28

Quote:“It’s very important for me as a woman and an engineer to be able to promote that to my daughter, because I think women have a different perspective. We’re able to put in an artistic touch and we’re able to build, too.”

Nice art. "Dead people under bridge. An artist's impression". The stupid broad should have know her limitations and become a beautician. Those people would still be alive.

Post: #29

(03-17-2018 05:56 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Okay, if you're asking me to believe that this woman wasn't solely responsible for this fuckup then you're at least going to have to provide me with a shitload of other minorities to blame.

You can't expect me to just not blame this tragedy on people that look different to me. It's simply not a reasonable proposition.

Len...It's south Florida. YOU are the minority mate.

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Post: #32

Thanks, Obama!

Post: #33

I would hold off on blaming her for the bridge collapse, seems like it was a new experimental construction type designed by academics that didnt realize how much instructions get messed up.

Post: #34

Obama can't stop killing people.

If this was Rome, the bridge designers would have to endure a test run of standing under the bridge as Roman legions marched across the bridge.

Post: #35

(03-19-2018 11:25 PM)oilbreh Wrote:  I would hold off on blaming her for the bridge collapse, seems like it was a new experimental construction type designed by academics that didnt realize how much instructions get messed up.

If it was experimental, why didn't they shore the ever living daylights out of this thing, or do a small-scale reproduction safely away from a live worksite? It is beyond belief how these things ever get greenlighted.

Post: #36

(03-19-2018 11:55 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 11:25 PM)oilbreh Wrote:  I would hold off on blaming her for the bridge collapse, seems like it was a new experimental construction type designed by academics that didnt realize how much instructions get messed up.

If it was experimental, why didn't they shore the ever living daylights out of this thing, or do a small-scale reproduction safely away from a live worksite? It is beyond belief how these things ever get greenlighted.

It was experimental alright, but not the first time applied. Dozens of similar construction designs were used with the same method before.

Maybe the misogynist math truly was at fault.





"How do numbers make you feel?????"

Even if the women put in PR were not at fault this time around - sooner or later this anti-science, anti-meritocracy, diversity affirmative action will let more than small bridges crumble. If you think that all this agenda pushing will be without consequences, then you are mistaken.

Post: #37

(03-19-2018 10:32 PM)glugger Wrote:  Thanks, Obama!

If you like your bridge, you can keep your bridge.

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(03-16-2018 12:25 PM)Enigma Wrote:  Did anyone really think this woman went and personally built this bridge, by herself, with no one else involved? Of course not.

The point is that the people pushing these "women in STEM" narratives and similar ideas willfully promote incompetence to the point that they can't even fulfill their basic responsibilities, like building a small bridge in the [current year] that doesn't fall and kill people.

Good post. Glad I'm not the only one.

The problem isn't women engineers. The problem is the religious idea that *we need* more women in STEM or whatever bull shit. As if women want to be in STEM naturally, but they're prevented somehow.

As Peterson says, "The biggest difference between men and women is a difference in interest. Men are generally interested in things. Women are generally interested in people. It's not a difference of intelligence. There might be some small differences, where women have a slight edge in verbal intelligence, and women have a slight edge in spatial intelligence. And there are some differences in personality that are not just trivial. But the biggest differences is in interest."

To which I add, we shouldn't push people into areas they aren't terribly interested.

Post: #40

The suspension cables and the tower at the top of the bridge were mainly ornamental.

The bridge design is also extremely heavy with lots of concrete. To be honest - they were lucky that it collapsed at such an early stage. If it had been full with students in rush-hour, then dozens might have died.

The bridge design was frankly risky for no reason at all. Then they add suspension cables mainly for design purposes? Why not have a suspension bridge that is both cheaper and well-tested? It would look like that anyway in the end.

The entire bridge fully was dependent on two cables on each side holding up the full concrete structure. Bridges are not projects where you field-test risky new designs on some kind of whim.

Post: #41

Respect the patriarchy.

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The company deleted their Twitter account and also officially denied that the woman above had any hand in the bridge construction.

And hey - it could be true, but the optics of pushing women to the front and letting them blabber on about art in STEM (calling it STEAM now) is just terrible.

I worked with engineering units in the military. Some of their makeshift wooden bridges lasted decades and were later used by the population.

Seriously - I see no reason for such convoluted heavy designs for a pedestrian bridge. Even the argument of speedy on-site construction is moot, since this is not some kind of financial or industrial hub that might result in in millions of losses to the economy if they have to divert the traffic or put up temporary support columns.

It's tantamount to a doctor going up to you and saying: "There is an easy, well-tried, safe and cheap method of doing the surgery on you. However we received some generous government funding and are going for an experimental trial surgery that might leave you dead or permanently brain-damaged for life. Here sign the release form, so that we can harvest your organs just in case. Because you know - as women we are putting a sprinkle of Art into STEM."

Post: #44

(03-21-2018 03:21 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  



The company deleted their Twitter account and also officially denied that the woman above had any hand in the bridge construction.

And hey - it could be true, but the optics of pushing women to the front and letting them blabber on about art in STEM (calling it STEAM now) is just terrible.

I worked with engineering units in the military. Some of their makeshift wooden bridges lasted decades and were later used by the population.

Seriously - I see no reason for such convoluted heavy designs for a pedestrian bridge. Even the argument of speedy on-site construction is moot, since this is not some kind of financial or industrial hub that might result in in millions of losses to the economy if they have to divert the traffic or put up temporary support columns.

It's tantamount to a doctor going up to you and saying: "There is an easy, well-tried, safe and cheap method of doing the surgery on you. However we received some generous government funding and are going for an experimental trial surgery that might leave you dead or permanently brain-damaged for life. Here sign the release form, so that we can harvest your organs just in case. Because you know - as women we are putting a sprinkle of Art into STEM."

Excellent video good find. Let them keep scrambling, it doesn't bring back the dead and only makes them look more stupid.

Government campus, dangerous government built road, government special bridge project, Obama style redistribution through grants and contract awards... Paid for by you.

It's funny how this incident hurts the LOUDEST feminists in some strange way. The new answer to them is "Can you build a bridge, can you do anything useful? " Ok then shut up.

Post: #45

(03-20-2018 03:22 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 11:55 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 11:25 PM)oilbreh Wrote:  I would hold off on blaming her for the bridge collapse, seems like it was a new experimental construction type designed by academics that didnt realize how much instructions get messed up.

If it was experimental, why didn't they shore the ever living daylights out of this thing, or do a small-scale reproduction safely away from a live worksite? It is beyond belief how these things ever get greenlighted.

It was experimental alright, but not the first time applied. Dozens of similar construction designs were used with the same method before.

Maybe the misogynist math truly was at fault.





"How do numbers make you feel?????"

Even if the women put in PR were not at fault this time around - sooner or later this anti-science, anti-meritocracy, diversity affirmative action will let more than small bridges crumble. If you think that all this agenda pushing will be without consequences, then you are mistaken.

I'm surprised the writers on the Simpsons did that given that Matt Groening and the writers are pretty liberal (read Matt's Life In Hell comics for proof of this)

Post: #46

(03-20-2018 10:49 AM)Dusty Wrote:  Respect the patriarchy.

I say respect making people own the risks they foist on others, which practice humanity observed for much of its history. For some reason we decided suing people and allowing them to hide behind corporations or serve short periods in jails was a better way of doing things.

The Romans forced bridge builders to spend time with their families under the bridges they built. That's why the motherfuckers are still standing.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #47

Where is David Hoaoag when we need him most to tell us what to think and do?



Seriously though there was one man who I wish had been alive to analyze this. He was a structural engineer and Leica photographer / blogger whose explanations of building collapses based on photographic evidence or in person visit were second to none, the late Bob Arihood.

Here is an example: http://neithermorenorless.blogspot.com/2...treet.html

Unlike the feminist anti-math redistributionist views in the STEAM program, is that these incidents can be fully known and explained. They are not "some mystery" or some act of god. I am sure many now involved in the FIU bridge are now thinking "well we did the best we could it could not be helped" of some such garbage.

Post: #48

(03-20-2018 09:56 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  



The suspension cables and the tower at the top of the bridge were mainly ornamental.

The bridge design is also extremely heavy with lots of concrete. To be honest - they were lucky that it collapsed at such an early stage. If it had been full with students in rush-hour, then dozens might have died.

The bridge design was frankly risky for no reason at all. Then they add suspension cables mainly for design purposes? Why not have a suspension bridge that is both cheaper and well-tested? It would look like that anyway in the end.

The entire bridge fully was dependent on two cables on each side holding up the full concrete structure. Bridges are not projects where you field-test risky new designs on some kind of whim.

The Roman bridges manages to be both aesthetically pleasing and well functioning.

This bridge manages to be neither.

Post: #49

(03-20-2018 07:22 AM)heavy Wrote:  To which I add, we shouldn't push people into areas they aren't terribly interested.

I am in my late 40s. At 19 I went to an engineering college. The ratio of men to women previous to me being there was 10:1 or greater for undergrads. The year I went in was the year there was a HUGE push to get 'more women into engineering': Heavy recruitment with a degree of affirmative action. The ratio was closer to 5:1 my freshman year.

The results were not pretty. Two examples that were typical:

A woman I shared an apartment with (not a GF) was one of those 'recruited'. In her mind, it was her "duty" to 'girl power' to get a degree in STEM. That mind seed was planted of course by the feminists that pushed this nonsense. Now this woman was not dumb by any means. She was a competent student. However, she was miserable. She kept changing her major (mechanical, civil, chemical) to find SOMETHING in engineering that she didn't hate doing. She eventually dropped out, heavily in debt (despite generous financial 'women in engineering' grants). Worse, she wasted three years of her life.

A second example is a woman I unfortunately got paired with for a design project in senior year. This chick couldn't find her own over-sized ass with the aid of a flashlight, a hunting dog, and an AWAC. She got to where she was because she was good at memorizing, then regurgitating data on tests. In reality, she understood nothing.

Our design project required tackling an issue that wasn't conveniently spelled out in a text book. She was useless and should have been failed out. Instead, she got hired by the Cadillac division of General Motors; a job position that was ONLY to be reserved for the top 5% of any class. Being a woman and a minority, she was hired despite having empty space between the ears.

By my senior year, the ratio of men to women was back up near 10:1 due to attrition of the women. The ones that made it through all had jobs waiting for them, despite a horrible job market for engineering grads at the time.

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< I know some women who love working in STEM - one statistician who adores poring over scores of statistical data and analyzing that for her banking job. But how likely is that woman in the real world? 1-2% of the female population?

My own mother was an engineer who did calculations on projects similar to the bridge. I don't even bother asking her about this bridge, because it includes a new design project, but my guess is that she would call this construction unnecessarily risky and expensive for a mere pedestrian bridge - to rely on two cables and a very heavy design to hold it up while countless cars and pedestrians are stressing the bridge constantly. Since it is a government spending project, then it should be somewhat aesthetically pleasing according to a tried and tested method. If they want to integrate Wifi and sitting options on the bridge, then this can be easily added later.

I also mentioned that my mom was very good at her job - better than most men. But guess what - after some 10 years on the job she attempted to get out, but could not find anything that would get her similar cash. So she continued with the job while not being overly happy with it. And keep in mind - she was good at it. I don't even want to imagine what women will do who are bestowed with lesser intelligence and abilities. You end up with shitty projects like that are part propaganda, part bravado, part splurging of government funds and part lack of common sense.