Post: #201

2Wycked Wrote:MMX2010's response is that MLK was a hypocrite and a fraud. His video details how MLK banged whores, plagiarized his speeches and writings, was egocentric, etc. Calling somebody a hypocrite and a fraud is simply attacking somebody's character and nothing more.

Your summary of the video is a lie, because the video also:

(1) Claimed that the enslavement of Blacks by Americans wasn't really oppression because: (A) Africans enslaved other Africans, so much that the American demand for slavery didn't cause an increase in enslaved Africans, (B) Muslims enslaved Blacks even more cruelly by castrating all Black male slaves and murdering them when they became useless, and © the literacy rate for Blacks enslaved by Americans was higher than the literacy rate for contemporary Russians AND far higher than the literacy rate for enslaved Blacks in Africa.

(2) Claimed that segregation isn't oppression.

(3) Claimed that Northern Whites had rose-colored conceptions of Blacks, but quickly imposed some forms of segregation laws once a large number of Blacks settled in places like Philadelphia. (His explanation is that pre-judice is when you have negative feelings towards a certain race before you've interacted with them, but post-judice is when you have negative feelings towards a certain race after you've interacted with them. Therefore, Whites don't experience pre-judice against Blacks, just post-judice.

(4) Claimed that the consumption of federal programs by American Blacks MINUS the payment of federal taxes by American Blacks EQUALS a deficit of 300 billion per year, which is half of American military spending.

Your inability to glean these important points from the video suggests that you're unwilling to seriously consider what race realism actually is.

You'd rather just lie about it, because it challenges your pre-conceived notions of racial equality.

Post: #202

@Genghis Khan,

If your friend is literally disgusted by the behaviors of modern women, then he's unfit for marriage. This is because no woman wants to - nor ought to want to - marry a man who might explode in rage, because some other woman did something he disapproves of.

Your entire post moralizes women's choices - as if your engineer friends are entitled to good wives, because they've followed a checklist of behaviors that you morally imply that women should want. Women aren't going to marry a man who moralizes women's choices this way.

kaotic is unfit for marriage because he literally said, and literally believes that women shouldn't be allowed on YouTube/Twitter. I shouldn't have to explain why this belief is unattractive to any woman seeking marriage, so I won't explain it.

If you were merely resigned by women's bad choices, you'd probably have more women seeking long-term relationships with you. But you're not merely resigned, you're deeply affronted - and no woman wants to marry that attitude.

Your explanation about society and women's choices is correct in the Abstract. But generalizing about Abstract concepts doesn't change who you are as a person. And no woman marries a man because she agrees with his Abstract musings.

Post: #203

(03-11-2018 07:10 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  If you were merely resigned by women's bad choices, you'd probably have more women seeking long-term relationships with you. But you're not merely resigned, you're deeply affronted - and no woman wants to marry that attitude.

By all means, you are more than welcome to enter LTRs with and marry sluts.

I will not. Some of us have a bit more self-respect than that.

Speaking of which: how successful is your dating/marriage life again? Please tell us about all the sluts that are throwing themselves at you.

Quote:If your friend is literally disgusted by the behaviors of modern women, then he's unfit for marriage.

I take it you're a fan of JBP - so you must know disgust is an inherent feeling, strongly connected to high levels of conscientiousness. It's an evolved and deep-seated response. Perhaps instead of having a knee-jerk reaction, you should consider why exactly it is that men feel disgusted by hoe behavior. Maybe, just maybe, there's a really good reason for it.

Quote:Your entire post moralizes women's choices

You damn fucking right it does. Women respond exceptionally well to shame.

We're in this mess because too many dudes were weak and let women do whatever they wanted. We're hitting civilizational decline precisely because we don't moralize hoe behavior anymore.

Quote:kaotic is unfit for marriage because he literally said, and literally believes that women shouldn't be allowed on YouTube/Twitter.

Did he really say that? Damn, I'd rep him again if I could. Prophet Kaotic speaks the truth!

Quote: - as if your engineer friends are entitled to good wives, because they've followed a checklist of behaviors that you morally imply that women should want. Women aren't going to marry a man who moralizes women's choices this way.

Do tell us about the women who will marry you since you don't moralize their choices.

All aside, it is true - neither my engineering friends nor I are entitled to a good wife. Absolutely true, 100%. Women aren't entitled to the civilization built upon our engineering skills either though.

I'm sure you'll agree that no one is entitled to the fruits of our labor, which includes clean and 24/7 available water, well-paved roads, electricity, fighter jets, the internet, plastics, modern medical technology (MRI, CAT) and really every single modern amenity.

No doubt you will feel outraged at anyone professing entitlement to those things.

I remember reading a story about women in Venezuela having to give BJs for toilet paper since their society collapsed. But hey, at least they don't have to deal with the outrageous entitlement of engineers who think that perhaps they should get something in return for keeping the entire world running.

You know, the Romans had an amazing recipe for concrete, and had really nifty air conditioning systems. And probably quite a lot of other engineering marvels. Oddly enough, all that knowledge got lost over time. Almost as if Roman engineers were human beings who respond to incentives. Almost as if they weren't getting incentivized to keep going...hmm...

Post: #204

(03-08-2018 07:10 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Black and latino teachers voice bias against whites all the time and rarely get fired for it

Polynesian teachers support Kill Haole Day.

Aloha!

Post: #205

(03-12-2018 12:18 AM)Kona Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 07:10 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Black and latino teachers voice bias against whites all the time and rarely get fired for it

Polynesian teachers support Kill Haole Day.
Aloha!

I have not heard that term since 1999. Gives me a flashback to guys talking pidgin with high pitched laughs and fish hook necklaces. Good Times!

Post: #206

(03-11-2018 07:10 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  @Genghis Khan,
If your friend is literally disgusted by the behaviors of modern women, then he's unfit for marriage. This is because no woman wants to - nor ought to want to - marry a man who might explode in rage, because some other woman did something he disapproves of.
Your entire post moralizes women's choices - as if your engineer friends are entitled to good wives, because they've followed a checklist of behaviors that you morally imply that women should want. Women aren't going to marry a man who moralizes women's choices this way.
kaotic is unfit for marriage because he literally said, and literally believes that women shouldn't be allowed on YouTube/Twitter. I shouldn't have to explain why this belief is unattractive to any woman seeking marriage, so I won't explain it.
If you were merely resigned by women's bad choices, you'd probably have more women seeking long-term relationships with you. But you're not merely resigned, you're deeply affronted - and no woman wants to marry that attitude.
Your explanation about society and women's choices is correct in the Abstract. But generalizing about Abstract concepts doesn't change who you are as a person. And no woman marries a man because she agrees with his Abstract musings.

You seem to have completely failed to notice that while women hate misogyny, they desperately love misogynists.

You can kiss female butt all you like... they won't love you for it.

Post: #207

I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't give a flying fuck how Indians run India or how any other homogeneous, multi-millenial culture goes about their business as long as they're not directly fucking with me or mine, or flooding me and mine for that matter.

I am also at peace with the fact that Western female behaviour will not be corrected on this side of the 147th quindecadial Grand Corpsemaking Festival (this one will be the best yet). Decent women can still be found and kept but it requires sacrifices to be made to one's lifestyle along with the acceptance of realistic expectations in return for decency and loyalty.

As it's always been since the dawn of time, it seems not everyone can have it all.

Who'd have thought it?

Post: #208

EndsExpect Wrote:You seem to have completely failed to notice that while women hate misogyny, they desperately love misogynists.

You can kiss female butt all you like... they won't love you for it.

Could you tell me a story about how at least two women want to marry you, or do no women want to marry you?

Post: #209

Genghis Khan,

"Women aren't entitled to the fruits of male engineering labor!" --- lives in a nation in which women profit from his male engineering labor.

"We're on the verge of civilizational collapse, because men aren't calling out women's hoe behavior!" --- lives in a civilization which he alleges is collapsing, but anonymously - not as a man somewhat famous for calling out hoe behavior.

Genghis, you were invited to compare your attitude to happier men who believe what you believe about women, AND YET DON'T possess your angry moralistic attitude - but you rejected the invitation.

Why self-improve while being a member of this forum devoted to male self-improvement, right?

Genghis Khan Wrote:Speaking of which: how successful is your dating/marriage life again? Please tell us about all the sluts that are throwing themselves at you.

I think women who want marriage and children are morally obligated to choose the absolutely best husband to raise their future children. (I'm not sure whether you believe this, because you say things like, "If women want a marriage and family, they could easily...") Since I'm not among the absolutely best future potential husbands, women don't want to marry me. Unlike you, I don't let this rejection bother me.

Post: #210

I'll break this down in steps:

1. Civilization is built upon monogamy and division of labor - man works super hard, sometimes to the detriment of every other aspect of his life, woman takes care of the house and kids. Civilizations in fact are built upon extreme division of labor - the absolute best in any field are typically horrible at everything else. Men were incentivized to work because they got pussy. This is how we get stable societies - they're built on mutual sacrifice. In game theory, it's called a cooperative-cooperative situation.

2. Men have held up their end of the bargain, women have not, nor do they want to anymore. They want the absolute best man they can fuck to commit to them. Society encourages them as well. It's women's prerogative to choose who they want to fuck or marry. But it's also men's prerogative to respond to a lack of incentives.

Quote:Why self-improve while being a member of this forum devoted to male self-improvement, right?

I am self-improving. But do you understand a day only has 24 hours - and I can't work 12-16 hours in lab, while also going to the gym, dressing well, having an active social life, having interesting hobbies, reading outside my field, travelling to different countries.

What do you think happens when the guys who are the 20% that produce 80% of the value in this society stop working 60-80 hour workweek and focus on actively pursuing pussy? Do you think they'll keep producing 80% of the value? Do you believe they should keep being cooperative when women are not?

Quote:"Women aren't entitled to the fruits of male engineering labor!" --- lives in a nation in which women profit from his male engineering labor.

In the past 2 years, as I've focused on self-improvement, my productivity has dropped in proportion. Like many men, I'm already planning on quitting the rat race soon. I'll focus full-time on improving myself and getting what I want - it will benefit me personally.

This stuff takes decades to play out. What we have right now is a bubble, aptly called the misandry bubble:
http://singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-m...ubble.html

Quote:I think women who want marriage and children are morally obligated to choose the absolutely best husband to raise their future children.

Dude, are you really that much of a hypocrite? On one hand, you berate me for morally judging women's bad choices, but on the other you say women are morally obligated to choose the best men. Choosing is judging. So you're saying it's OK for women to morally judge men. Got it.

What about men? Do men not have the same moral obligation? Do I not also have a moral obligation to pick a decent wife? That's been the crux of my argument:

"Men who want marriage and children are morally obligated to choose the absolutely best wife to raise their future children."

History, science, the Bible, take your pick - everything points to the best wives being those who weren't slutting around in their 20s. Divorce rates quadruple once a girl isn't a virgin anymore.

Why should I accept a woman who has made bad choices as a wife? I feel absolutely morally obligated to any future children of mine to pick the right woman to be my wife.

If a man wasted away his 20s not being productive, would you berate a woman for judging him to be unsuitable for marriage? Or would you tell her "If you were merely resigned by men's bad choices, you'd probably have more men seeking long-term relationships with you"?

For LTR and marriage, I will judge women harshly, just as women judge men harshly.

Quote:Since I'm not among the absolutely best future potential husbands, women don't want to marry me. Unlike you, I don't let this rejection bother me.

Post: #211

"I'm not obligated to choose a decent, productive man", she says, "now all you decent, productive men shut the fuck up, pay your female welfare taxes, pay your bad-boy-gave-me-tingles-single-mother taxes, pay your flippant divorce child support, pay for my government make-work job and pay the associated costs of 'gender equality' in the workforce, which is to say do all the shit jobs while me and the gals get all the cushy ones we're almost capable of doing."

Sounds legit. No point in getting butthurt about our democratic race to collapse, but we might as well call it like it is. Modern western women are mostly parasites who are not entitled to a fraction of what they receive, and suggesting that they are somehow masters of their own destiny who've earned the right to choose whatever man they please is a fucking joke.

I would be like everyone in my street voting to force me to maintain their yards, then waving away my gripes that I had no free time while they all sat around and got drunk.

Post: #212

(03-12-2018 06:45 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  "I'm not obligated to choose a decent, productive man", she says, "now all you decent, productive men shut the fuck up, pay your female welfare taxes, pay your bad-boy-gave-me-tingles-single-mother taxes, pay your flippant divorce child support, pay for my government make-work job and pay the associated costs of 'gender equality' in the workforce, which is to say do all the shit jobs while me and the gals get all the cushy ones we're almost capable of doing."

Sounds legit. No point in getting butthurt about our democratic race to collapse, but we might as well call it like it is. Modern western women are mostly parasites who are not entitled to a fraction of what they receive, and suggesting that they are somehow masters of their own destiny who've earned the right to choose whatever man they please is a fucking joke.

I would be like everyone in my street voting to force me to maintain their yards, then waving away my gripes that I had no free time while they all sat around and got drunk.

I own a company in a blue collar industry. Lots of kids out of wedlock and divorces. Every third guy has a Friend of the Court (FOC) order. Some guys will just quit as soon as the order comes in. (not every company actively reports their New Hires as they are supposed to)

One of my guys has an FOC order for arrears due for a kid who died at age 18. So by definition the money LITERALLY CANNOT be spent on the child and he is STILL LEGALLY OBLIGATED to pay and I am legally obligated to take the money of of his paycheck and send it to Friend of the Court.

To quote the Shakespeare of the Manosphere, Heartiste: Fuck this Gay Earth.

Post: #213

Genghis Khan Wrote:I'll break this down in steps:

As I told you earlier, there are plenty of men who agree with everything you said AND YET aren't nearly as angry as you are about women's choices. Their lack of anger puts them in an infinitely better position to acquire what you claim to want: A happier life (definitely) and a happy marriage (possibly).

Lecturing me about abstract facts that I already agree with just makes my argument stronger: you were invited, multiple times, to see how better men react to the facts you've stated (that we all agree with), but the only viewpoint you can see is your own.

You can't see how to make your emotional responses to the situation better.

Post: #214

Leonard Neubache Wrote:Sounds legit. No point in getting butthurt about our democratic race to collapse, but we might as well call it like it is. Modern western women are mostly parasites who are not entitled to a fraction of what they receive, and suggesting that they are somehow masters of their own destiny who've earned the right to choose whatever man they please is a fucking joke.

Pick one of the following, Leonard: (1) Society gets better as women choose mediocre men to be husbands and fathers. (2) Society gets better as women choose superior men to be husbands and fathers.

Pick one of the following here, too, Leonard. (1) I believe my wife chose me because I had mediocre potential to be a good husband and father. (2) I believe my wife chose me because I had superior potential to be a good husband and father.

I'm asking because of your word choice in this paragraph, "I'm not obligated to choose a decent, productive man", she says, "now all you decent, productive men shut the fuck up, pay your female welfare taxes, pay your bad-boy-gave-me-tingles-single-mother taxes, pay your flippant divorce child support, pay for my government make-work job and pay the associated costs of 'gender equality' in the workforce, which is to say do all the shit jobs while me and the gals get all the cushy ones we're almost capable of doing."

Post: #215

MMX - I seriously doubt that Leonard disagrees with you on the current state of divorce laws and feminist madness as high-IQ women freeze their eggs and then wail and scream as they cannot get pregnant any longer aged 44.

Post: #216

(03-13-2018 11:53 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  MMX - I seriously doubt that Leonard disagrees with you on the current state of divorce laws and feminist madness as high-IQ women freeze their eggs and then wail and scream as they cannot get pregnant any longer aged 44.

Leonard apparently disagrees with me over Genghis Khan's emotional well-adjustment. And that's what we're discussing.

If you believe that women seeking to have children are morally obligated to marry "decent men", you'll likely turn into a bitter, resentful man. But if you believe that women seeking children are morally obligated to marry superior men, then you'll likely turn into an emotionally well-adjusted man, even if you don't end up having "enough" sex as a young man, nor a wife and children as an older man.

Post: #217

Quote:Lecturing me about abstract facts that I already agree

Here's your argument:

Quote:Women went through a culture that promotes narcissism, which utterly ruins their ability to become wives, but men went through the exact same culture, and survived largely unscathed?

Your argument was that both men and women are messing up. That a large group of men are now unsuitable for marriage. I absolutely disagree. My argument:

Quote:...Men have held up their end of the bargain, women have not, nor do they want to anymore...

My argument was that women are messing up, while men are holding up their end of the bargain.

Do you understand the difference? Do you understand we don't agree at all?

Here, let me put it side by side:

You: both men and women are messing up.
Me: women are messing up, while men are holding up their end of the bargain.

Do you see the difference?

Quote:As I told you earlier, there are plenty of men who agree with everything you said AND YET aren't nearly as angry as you are about women's choices. Their lack of anger puts them in an infinitely better position to acquire what you claim to want: A happier life (definitely) and a happy marriage (possibly).

You're a keyboard jockey. I hope you know that. You haven't had a happy marriage yourself - I'll listen to guys who have what I want, not you.

You talk about how my "anger" will repel women, this despite the fact that I have a girl right now literally begging me to stay in the US and asking me if she can help me find a job so I can stay in the US. How she really like me and hope there's something long-term bla bla bla.

But I don't know why you assume I'm angry though. Why though? Because I said women aren't entitled to men's productivity? Or because I dare to judge women for their behavior? Man, the only people who seem to project their anger about that are

1. slutty women who want a beta at the end of their carousel ride

2. their enablers: white knights and tradcons

And based on what you've written in this thread, I can only assume you're one hardcore white knight tradcon who hasn't really swallowed the red pill yet.

Quote:If your friend is literally disgusted by the behaviors of modern women, then he's unfit for marriage. This is because no woman wants to - nor ought to want to - marry a man who might explode in rage, because some other woman did something he disapproves of.

White knight defending women's bad behavior.

Also, what kind of weird argument is this? Do you automatically go from feeling disgusted to exploding in rage? When you see dog shit on the street and are disgusted, do you explode in rage or something?

Do you understand you can be disgusted by someone's behavior and not want to harm them at the same time?

Quote:If you were merely resigned by women's bad choices, you'd probably have more women seeking long-term relationships with you. But you're not merely resigned, you're deeply affronted - and no woman wants to marry that attitude.

Classic tradcon response of "Man up and Marry that Slut"

Quote:Since I'm not among the absolutely best future potential husbands, women don't want to marry me.

While you're at it, why don't you build that pedestal even higher. Maybe if you build it really high, one day one of your precious women will grace you with their worn out pussies and you can finally enjoy the pleasures of marrying a post-wall woman whose bad choices you're merely resigned to. If you're really lucky, you can be a stepdad too.

Quote:I think women who want marriage and children are morally obligated to choose the absolutely best husband to raise their future children.

But they're not morally obligated to keep their legs shut until they get married?

But they're not morally obligated to find a husband who will provide, be a good father and caring husband to them in their early 20s instead of wasting away their main value (youth, beauty and virginity) on a string of guys with no real long-term future?

But they're not morally obligated to not divorce their husbands because they're not haaaappy and ruin their children's lives in the process?

Can you white-knight any harder for women?

This, from the Vox Day thread:

Quote:Alphas feel compelled to help people, while Sigmas absolutely do not.

The fact you actually believe this makes me wonder if you've ever lived in the real world. Want to talk about abstract concepts. You can't even seem to conceptually grasp what Alphas are. You think proper felon thugs like Jeremy Meeks who's dating a billionaire heiress feel compelled to help people?

If you genuinely believe that all Alphas feel compelled to help people, that they're all good guys, instead of reality: which is that they often times don't give a fuck about anyone else, that they live in the moment, acutely and innately aware of what will bring them popularity and don't particularly care about long-term consequences when it comes to other people...which is why women gravitate to them...no wonder you put women on a pedestal.

(03-13-2018 11:53 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  MMX - I seriously doubt that Leonard disagrees with you on the current state of divorce laws and feminist madness as high-IQ women freeze their eggs and then wail and scream as they cannot get pregnant any longer aged 44.

But that can't be - why would those Alphas who feel compelled to help people just pump and dump women in their 20s?

Anyway, I'm done arguing with you though, MMX. Throughout threads, you've been constantly obtuse and all you do is throw out random arguments that make no sense. Your last post in this thread is a great example.

Quote:Pick one of the following, Leonard: (1) Society gets better as women choose mediocre men to be husbands and fathers. (2) Society gets better as women choose superior men to be husbands and fathers.

Pick one of the following here, too, Leonard. (1) I believe my wife chose me because I had mediocre potential to be a good husband and father. (2) I believe my wife chose me because I had superior potential to be a good husband and father.

I'm asking because of your word choice in this paragraph, "I'm not obligated to choose a decent, productive man", she says, "now all you decent, productive men shut the fuck up, pay your female welfare taxes, pay your bad-boy-gave-me-tingles-single-mother taxes, pay your flippant divorce child support, pay for my government make-work job and pay the associated costs of 'gender equality' in the workforce, which is to say do all the shit jobs while me and the gals get all the cushy ones we're almost capable of doing."

I still don't understand what you're trying to say here.

But hey maybe I'm just too angry to see the amazing logic in your posts. Or maybe I'm just too dumb, perhaps if I was as high IQ as your Supreme Dark Overlord I would understand the wisdom of your words.

Sadly I'm not. I'm a dumb angry man who is angry he can't get women because he's too dumb to not be disgusted by hoe behavior. No point in arguing with me though, I'm too dumb and angry.

Post: #218

(03-13-2018 11:47 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

Leonard Neubache Wrote:Sounds legit. No point in getting butthurt about our democratic race to collapse, but we might as well call it like it is. Modern western women are mostly parasites who are not entitled to a fraction of what they receive, and suggesting that they are somehow masters of their own destiny who've earned the right to choose whatever man they please is a fucking joke.

Pick one of the following, Leonard: (1) Society gets better as women choose mediocre men to be husbands and fathers. (2) Society gets better as women choose superior men to be husbands and fathers.

Pick one of the following here, too, Leonard. (1) I believe my wife chose me because I had mediocre potential to be a good husband and father. (2) I believe my wife chose me because I had superior potential to be a good husband and father.

I'm asking because of your word choice in this paragraph, "I'm not obligated to choose a decent, productive man", she says, "now all you decent, productive men shut the fuck up, pay your female welfare taxes, pay your bad-boy-gave-me-tingles-single-mother taxes, pay your flippant divorce child support, pay for my government make-work job and pay the associated costs of 'gender equality' in the workforce, which is to say do all the shit jobs while me and the gals get all the cushy ones we're almost capable of doing."

--> this is supposed to be a discussion about my emotional well-adjustment?

(03-13-2018 03:56 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  Leonard apparently disagrees with me over Genghis Khan's emotional well-adjustment. And that's what we're discussing.

Must be over my IQ grade

Post: #219

MMX believes he is operating from an infallible point of logical perfection.

Therefore arguments others perceive as emotionally neutral appear to him to be emotionally motivated, typically by anger because that's want most men snap to when upset. How else could they not be? You're either logical or emotional, right? MMX = logical. Everyone who disagrees with MMX = illogical = irrational = emotional. By definition.

Hence MMX labels others as being "angry" when in reality they're just people coming to a different conclusion than him.

Post: #220

Genghis Khan Wrote:Your argument was that both men and women are messing up. That a large group of men are now unsuitable for marriage. I absolutely disagree. My argument:

Quote:
...Men have held up their end of the bargain, women have not, nor do they want to anymore...

My argument was that women are messing up, while men are holding up their end of the bargain.

Do you understand the difference? Do you understand we don't agree at all?

What makes you think that "men are holding up their end of their bargain"?

Answer: You have a checklist of what you believe women should want from marriage. When women reject your checklist, you don't assume that your checklist is wrong, you assume that women are wrong.

Do you know what we call someone who imposes his own desires and expectations onto an entire gender, rather than letting an entire gender define their desires for themselves? Narcissistic.

Do you know what else we call such men? Emotionally unfit for marriage.

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Leonard Neubache Wrote:MMX believes he is operating from an infallible point of logical perfection.

That's because I am.

Both you Genghis Khan are asserting that women should want "decent men" for marriage. I assert that women should want "superior men" for marriage.

I also assert that women are morally obligated to reject "decent men" and "inferior men", because their future children deserve "superior men" as fathers.

I gave you the opportunity to rebut this argument, but, by not addressing it, you failed to rebut it. (I also did an amazing job of asking you whether you believe your ride chose you because you were "decent" or "superior" - which, of course, you didn't address.)

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Personally, I don't view shrinking marital numbers as a crisis. I feel sad (but only slightly) for the vast numbers of women who remain unmarried, because no one told them that their dedicated pursuit of superior husbands would result in around 50% of women remaining unmarried. My sadness is replaced with annoyance, when I realize that these women vote for social programs that tax all men - because these women have no husband.

But asserting that men have largely been unscathed by our narcissism-promoting culture - while also imposing on women your expectations of what women should want in marriage - is hilariously narcissistic.

Post: #221

Genghis Khan Wrote:-> this is supposed to be a discussion about my emotional well-adjustment?

It is.

I'll spell it out for you.

Question: In your opinion, are women morally obligated to have children with average, decent men?

If you answer, No, then you just blew up every argument you've made about women's "slutty behavior", and "I know a lot of decent, engineer friends who can't get dates, can't get sex, and can't get relationships." And you blew it all up, because I can just point out that these men are merely average and decent, and, therefore, don't deserve dates, sex, nor relationships.

So now I'll sit back and wait as you argue that" average, decent men" are actually superior fathers and husbands. And that children don't suffer by having average, decent fathers as opposed to exceptional fathers.

Because if you can't make that argument then all of your "I'll judge them harshly!" arguments will be dismissed as the rantings of an average, decent man who wants the rewards of the superior man - without self-improving until he's superior. This desire for reward without self-improvement makes you emotionally unstable, and unsuited for marriage and especially fatherhood.

Post: #222

(03-19-2018 11:18 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  [...

Leonard Neubache Wrote:MMX believes he is operating from an infallible point of logical perfection.

That's because I am.
...

MMX, you are like the autistic brother I never had, and I mean that in the best way possible.



Solomon Grundy, born on Mondee...

Post: #223

(03-19-2018 11:18 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

Leonard Neubache Wrote:MMX believes he is operating from an infallible point of logical perfection.

That's because I am.

Post: #224

(03-19-2018 11:18 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  I also assert that women are morally obligated to reject "decent men" and "inferior men", because their future children deserve "superior men" as fathers.

Whether they are or are not be morally obligated to reject "decent men" in favor of "superior men" as fathers for their future children is largely rendered moot by the fact that they are largely incapable of accurately making that distinction for themselves until they're past being what a superior man will choose for himself

Post: #225

MMX, the idea that women have infallible judgement is laughable. No idea why you're white knighting.

Gengis, you've made some great posts in this thread. Really like the Bhagavad Gita one.

Too bad all of these great posts have zero to do with the original topic