Post: #26

Again, it's a cultural thing. If you meet someone in a bar in most EE countries and have a chat with him or her, they will offer you a drink when they order one for themselves, provided that they are enjoying hanging with you. Not buying one for the people you hang with often means that you don't really want them there - it's a diss of sorts.

This doesn't mean that you should open girls by offering to buy them one - that's lame everywhere. But if you have been talking and dancing for a while, and if you are buying one for yourself, it's considered rude not to ask.

Post: #27

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Post: #28

(03-04-2012 07:17 PM)scorpio Wrote:  To give you a gents just an update: A different girl from my social circle is a solid dime piece in her mid 20's. She's been flirting heavily on me since last October. Found out she got engaged in January. She's still coming at me hard. Wish I could say this was the first time. Unfortunately, I can't. And no, she's not off-limits Charging it to the Game. Some of you guys might judge me, but like I said, this happens way too often for me to notice, care, or take responsibility anymore.

If you want to become a Roosh legend, fuck her, tape it, send video to fiancee, document his response, then spill the whole thing on here.

A poster named YaBoyDave did all that in stunning detail on the Bodybuilding.com Misc forums, one of the funniest, most legit things I've ever seen on the net. Link

Post: #29

(03-04-2012 09:22 PM)basilransom Wrote:  If you want to become a Roosh legend, fuck her, tape it, send video to fiancee, document his response, then spill the whole thing on here.

A poster named YaBoyDave did all that in stunning detail on the Bodybuilding.com Misc forums, one of the funniest, most legit things I've ever seen on the net. Link

Is this Beta?TM

Post: #30

(03-04-2012 09:39 PM)scorpio Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 09:22 PM)basilransom Wrote:  If you want to become a Roosh legend, fuck her, tape it, send video to fiancee, document his response, then spill the whole thing on here.

A poster named YaBoyDave did all that in stunning detail on the Bodybuilding.com Misc forums, one of the funniest, most legit things I've ever seen on the net. Link

Is this Beta?TM

Honestly, I'd actually pay to see that.

Wait, would that be beta too?

Oh, and about that Misc story...

Post: #31

Funny thing I actually had an arguement with an American cow (from DC no less) last week in a bar about how guys in the UK don't buy girls drinks. I was chatting to her friends when she came over and interrupted starting to complain about how she never gets bought drinks from guys in bars in London. To which I said yeah why would they, so you can just take their drink and bugger off.

She said no because its a great conversation starter and a "real" gentleman would always buy a drink for a girl. I said how is it a great conversation starter? She said well its better than just standing around hoping a girl will talk to you like you probably do (even though I had approached her friends with my innovative, how low can you go opener). I wanted to send a torrent of abuse her way but thought to just play it cool and shrug it off. Her friends apoligised for her bitchiness after anyway.

Post: #32

I'm from the UK, in my mid-twenties, have never bought a girl a drink at a bar in my life.

In fact, I rarely even buy myself drinks, so someone must buy them for me. I don't know how typical this is.

ps. Was this beta?

Post: #33

American women have been the same in regards to drinks for a long time now.

Here is Richard Feynmen's experience with American women back in the 1930's-1940's.

Quote:"OK," he says. "The whole principle is this: The guy wants to be a
gentleman. He doesn't want to be thought of as impolite, crude, or
especially a cheapskate. As long as the girl knows the guy's motives so
well, it's easy to steer him in the direction she wants him to go.
"Therefore," he continued, "under no circumstances be a gentleman! You
must disrespect the girls. Furthermore, the very first rule is, don't buy a
girl anything -- not even a package of cigarettes -- until you've asked her
if she'll sleep with you, and you're convinced that she will, and that she's
not lying."
"Uh... you mean... you don't... uh... you just ask them?"
"OK," he says, "I know this is your first lesson, and it may be hard
for you to be so blunt. So you might buy her one thing -- just one little
something -- before you ask. But on the other hand, it will only make it
more difficult."
Well, someone only has to give me the principle, and I get the idea.
All during the next day I built up my psychology differently: I adopted the
attitude that those bar girls are all bitches, that they aren't worth
anything, and all they're in there for is to get you to buy them a drink,
and they're not going to give you a goddamn thing; I'm not going to be a
gentleman to such worthless bitches, and so on. I learned it till it was
automatic.

Quote:I stop suddenly and I say to her, "You... are worse than a WHORE!"
"Whaddya mean?"
'"You got me to buy these sandwiches, and what am I going to get for
it? Nothing!"
"Well, you cheapskate!" she says. "If that's the way you feel, I'll pay
you back for the sandwiches!"
I called her bluff: "Pay me back, then."
She was astonished. She reached into her pocketbook, took out the
little bit of money that she had and gave it to me. I took my sandwich and
coffee and went off.
After I was through eating, I went back to the bar to report to the
master. I explained everything, and told him I was sorry that I flunked, but
I tried to recover.
He said very calmly, "It's OK, Dick; it's all right. Since you ended up
not buying her anything, she's gonna sleep with you tonight."
"What?"
"That's right," he said confidently; "she's gonna sleep with you. I
know that."
"But she isn't even here! She's at her place with the lieu --"
"It's all right."
Two o'clock comes around, the bar closes, and Ann hasn't appeared. I
ask the master and his wife if I can come over to their place again. They
say sure.
Just as we're coming out of the bar, here comes Ann, running across
Route 66 toward me. She puts her arm in mine, and says, "Come on, let's go
over to my place."
The master was right. So the lesson was terrific!
When I was back at Cornell in the fall, I was dancing with the sister
of a grad student, who was visiting from Virginia. She was very nice, and
suddenly I got this idea: "Let's go to a bar and have a drink," I said.
On the way to the bar I was working up nerve to try the master's lesson
on an ordinary girl. After all, you don't feel so bad disrespecting a bar
girl who's trying to get you to buy her drinks -- but a nice, ordinary,
Southern girl?
We went into the bar, and before I sat down, I said, "Listen, before I
buy you a drink, I want to know one thing: Will you sleep with me tonight?"
"Yes."
So it worked even with an ordinary girl! But no matter how effective
the lesson was, I never really used it after that. I didn't enjoy doing it
that way. But it was interesting to know that things worked much differently
from how I was brought up.

Post: #34

We can conclude from this that Feminism has very little to do with our women's behavior; American culture has been making it's women incorrigible for quite some time now.

If anything, feminism is a by-product of American women and not responsible for how atrocious American women behave.

Post: #35

(03-05-2012 10:25 AM)Samseau Wrote:  We can conclude from this that Feminism has very little to do with our women's behavior; American culture has been making it's women incorrigible for quite some time now.

If anything, feminism is a by-product of American women and not responsible for how atrocious American women behave.

The way I see it, feminism is just a societal shit-test; One that Western men have thus far completely failed.

I tihnk the term a PUA would use is that we're now in 'Damage Control,' which sounds remarkably fitting. As does the fact that when in 'damage control' most guys try to overcompensate the girl for fucking up the first time round.

Kind of like the continual pandering to ever-increasingly ridiculous feminist bullshit in legal and media outputs.

Post: #36

What happens when you buy a drunk girl drinks in America? You might go to jail if she then drives a car and gets in a crash. Crazy.

Post: #37

Damn, I tried to use this thread to my advantage but it backfired due to texting typos:

"Cool you home? I'm coming over to fuck you like the dirty slug you are"

Didn't end well.

Post: #38

(03-03-2012 09:45 PM)Amour Fou Wrote:  Whereas in Hawaii I had girls asking me to buy drinks saying that otherwise they wouldn't keep talking to me. I had a friend of a girl I opened elegantly saying to me "Buy her a fucking drink, it's her fucking birthday".

My say.

Holy shit. I'd probably lose it.

Post: #39

(08-05-2013 09:54 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Damn, I tried to use this thread to my advantage but it backfired due to texting typos:

"Cool you home? I'm coming over to fuck you like the dirty slug you are"

Didn't end well.

Maybe you should have called her a dirty pug.

Post: #40

If a woman accepts drinks from you in Poland it means she accepts to get fucked.If a woman accepts drinks from you in Ukraine or Belarus it does not mean she accepts to get fucked as well.You just have the right to tough a bit her thigh.

Post: #41

(03-04-2012 11:21 PM)Excelsior Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 09:39 PM)scorpio Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 09:22 PM)basilransom Wrote:  If you want to become a Roosh legend, fuck her, tape it, send video to fiancee, document his response, then spill the whole thing on here.

A poster named YaBoyDave did all that in stunning detail on the Bodybuilding.com Misc forums, one of the funniest, most legit things I've ever seen on the net. Link

Is this Beta?TM

Honestly, I'd actually pay to see that.

Wait, would that be beta too?

Oh, and about that Misc story...

Bumping for this great story. Hope a few other people who never heard it before like it.

Post: #42

Funny thing. I met this girl off tinder last year. She was gorgeous looking, a 9 in my books - a Russian looking Latvian student girl with sizable boobs and nice ass and some freckles but sorta like that brunette chick from Lost.

We went out twice and I could tell she was traditional. I got her drinks etc but when I joked via txt "ok next time you're getting the drinks" she sort of told me "I expect you to pay because I was brought up this way" and went on to say how amazing she is and deserves to be treated well and how she'll give her 100% to a man that treats her well.

Initial thought was "gold digger" but after reading this maybe she wanted a man who's gonna tick that tick box.

Anyway I stalked her on fb for few months later and now she's engaged. She seemed like one of those rare gems now that I look back at it. That being said I don't like being told what to do with my monies.

Post: #43

It got discussed several times on other threads, never buy a drink to a girl if she asks for it. She's just trying to get one more free one.
Men have contests about how many women they can fuck.
Girls have contests about how many betas then can convert into free drinks.

Post: #44

Well in the UK if your buying a girl a drink and you've just met her or don't even know her then I'd expect her to disappear shortly after getting the drink, if you do know her then I wouldn't expect to see a drink coming your way soon as they usually expect guys to buy their drinks so they can tell their friends how they spent only the bus fare home. That said its not all but its seems to be a certain type that are never far away in bars/clubs, the ones that do show appreciation are becoming rarer and rarer.

I find Polish girls to see things differently and have had girls look around later on in a night for me just to find me to buy me a drink back, its like they are not just out to get as much free stuff as they can unlike the english girls.

Post: #45

Post: #46

My experience is that in order for you to go further with girls in FSU countries, when initial attraction has been established at a bar or nightclub, you have to buy her drinks. Otherwise, she will get upset and disqualify you (at least, for mature women).

In my country, Sweden, that's definitely not a prerequisite.

I would be really interested to see what the take is on that on this forum.