Post: #51

(01-14-2018 07:55 PM)Agastya Wrote:  I found this answer on a subreddit, thought it was interesting:
My theory is that many of the sorts of women who make the more absurd accusations are the mirror image of "nice guys", a bunch of depressed/anxious/socially maladjusted nerds who spend too much time on the internet masturbating to BL anime fanfics and don't know what real-world sexuality is like. They are horny yet terrified of men, unable to assert their own boundaries, and unaware of what kinds of social cues they are sending.
I mean this girl is what, some Brooklyn hipster photographer living off her parents' money? That's almost certainly what is going on here then. She meets some other famous, socially-maladjusted hipster douche, they have socially-maladjusted, confusing, borderline assault sex, and then they hate each other forever afterwards. Welcome to late-capitalist bourgeois decadence.
To be honest, we can't really blame guys like Aziz for acting like this -- in modern hookup culture it takes a pretty developed sense of discretion and game to navigate the neuroses of modern western women. Literally no one taught him what to do, much like how no one taught that girl what to do. Our culture and our biology give us a million contradictory messages on how to act in a hookup situation.
The problem isn't that Aziz was a rapist, nor is it even that this girl was attention whoring. The problem is that we are decadent and culturally leaderless, which creates unfortunate situations like this.

Dated a gal back in October that on paper checked quite a few criteria.
Pretty gal, petite gal, nice gal, smart gal.

The first date was probably the best first date I've ever had.
All the experience of all those other dates coming to the fore.
Made her laugh here & there, got a kiss at the end of the date. All well & good.
Except...
Except I felt nothing for her...

Had a 2nd & third date which where both better than normal; fine, just nothing amazing.
To the point where the whole circumstance never led to anything.
Perhaps the pheromones simply weren't firing.
Perhaps we simply weren't suited. Can't force desire & all that.
Yet a parting comment that she was perhaps letting insecurity get in the way of a good thing caused a knee-jerk response on her part...

Anyway, point being.
The brash, slutty chicks are inherently more lively & thus more fun. Yet not long term material.
Whereas these 'nice', 'modern' gals as suggested by that subreddit, are seemingly quite insecure in my estimation.
A paranoia about simply living life & a paranoia about sex...

Damned if you do with the brash slutty chicks / damned if you don't with the 'modern' insecure chicks...

Post: #52

Isn't Aziz an Egyptian or Pakistani name? I'd never connect that to India. Or did he just pick it as a pseudonym for SJW attention whoring?

Post: #53

The dude is a celebrity and had probably run this same routine countless times on "easy mode."  He rushed her out of the restaurant and tried to rush her into sex,  because, seriously, it's worked before, and who has time for all the social niceties? 

Yes, he failed to be socially calibrated.  But was this "sexual assault"?  No. There was no physical, economic, or other coercion.  She was free to leave at any time.  In fact, she had to think about it and consult with her friends before deciding that something untoward happened.

This is simply the scream of the hypergamous female who realized that she had just unwittingly serviced a beta.  So yes, she was "raped" by fraud.  She thought she was getting alpha, but it was just beta. 

She's furious at HERSELF for letting her hypergamous instincts be duped.  Hear her plaintive wail.  But it's never the woman's fault. Ever.  Someone must pay.  Time's up, funny man.

Post: #54

(01-15-2018 04:24 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Isn't Aziz an Egyptian or Pakistani name? I'd never connect that to India. Or did he just pick it as a pseudonym for SJW attention whoring?

He's a Thullukan. They have a chip on their shoulder everywhere, even (especially?) in TN-the-Indian-state.

Post: #55

(01-14-2018 07:55 PM)Agastya Wrote:  I mean this girl is what, some Brooklyn hipster photographer living off her parents' money? That's almost certainly what is going on here then. She meets some other famous, socially-maladjusted hipster douche, they have socially-maladjusted, confusing, borderline assault sex, and then they hate each other forever afterwards. Welcome to late-capitalist bourgeois decadence.

Thank you for reposting this. It sums up my own perception of it perfectly, too.

What I said in the other thread, was that there are is a subset of women out there who genuinely believe their favorite rock band had them pulled backstage because they think their fans are cool and they really want to get to know them, or that when a car salesman says it's his "best offer", it really is.

There's an intense, childish lack of awareness in her story of the number of things that go unsaid and why they go unsaid. She spends an hour trying to strongarm him into being her friend, oblivious to the subtext between men and women. She even protests that she didn't get to drink the kind of wine she prefers. Why isn't everyone my friend and taking an interest in me?

Especially when you consider her bizarre wall of text to Ansari and her apparent need to "confront" all of her friends for clarification on whether or not the encounter she had with him was normal, this could easily be an example of a woman on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum, who had a terrible experience with a man who is equally off-center.

Post: #56

I love all these armchair quarterbacks telling people what he did wrong based on a FEMALE's perspective. LOL.

Post: #57

"Open bob" - Aziz Ansari

Post: #58

He has a sms to her admitting his wrongful behaviour. He could have ghosted her, could have told her to GTFO, that he did not knew what was she talking about, etc. Instead he sends her this lame sms...We are not talking about a man here, we ate talking about soy. A male soybean feminist.

Post: #59

(01-15-2018 12:57 AM)Cobra Wrote:  Not sure where I implied anything of the sort. I just called you out for telling me I'm defending a liberal American soy boy that, come to think of it, doesn't even qualify as an IRT except for the fact that he's brown. This reject is the western creation of white liberals, women and fags that originated in this country. I'm going to denounce him as such. You can have him.

Of course he is a product of liberal soy. He works in Hollywood. High soy level is a prerequisite. The only person bringing up him being Indian was you. You don't need to accept or denounce anyone. No one assumed you were related.

The guy should have never apologized. He was trying to do what women say they wanted. To accept responsibility. That still didn't stop this chick from blasting him to the public for some attention. Guys knowing that will better off than crying about how it shouldn't have happened in the first place. This stuff has been happening for a long time. We seem to be hitting the peak.

I remember this one girl a long time ago. We're talking 12 or so years ago... This was way before all of this nonsense was mainstream. I remember her telling me about how she was sexually assaulted in college. Apparently she got really drunk and hooked up with a guy. I asked if she passed out. She said no. I asked if he drugged her. She said no. I had that "WTF" look going on wondering how she could be calling it an assault when it was more about regret than anything else. These days, if I hear anything like that I would walk away. I think people are learning that many of these accusations are bullshit. The idea that a woman would lie about this stuff is becoming widely accepted.

Post: #60

(01-15-2018 10:08 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  I love all these armchair quarterbacks telling people what he did wrong based on a FEMALE's perspective. LOL.

He's not denying her version of what went down. If it's manifestly false, we should at least expect that from him, but so far nothing.

Based on what we know about him and his public asshat male feminist approach to sex and sexual relations, her account is probably not too far off.

Post: #61

Cobra- you keep saying “IRT” not me. I didn’t say it once.

I said you’re defending a gameless Indian, which you are.

In fact, go reread what you wrote entirely, you said word for word that guys on this thread who were focusing on the lack of game instead of how Asnari was being falsely are the same as liberals and women.

You’re also the one claiming it hurts all men so we should all more or less be behind Asnari since he’s being falsely accused. This is why I said if you want to be an advocate for men you should be focused on learning the lessons from his lack of game.

Re me, I just want the one group of people that has a large conservative base to unfuck the country and take control of this shit show. That group of people happens to be white and under constant attack and I’m tired of hearing about it.

If another group of people can make a significant change towards conservatism then great but as for now the future of this country rests on whites getting red pilled and fast.

Post: #62

I'd feel sorry for him, but he's a far left Trump-hating Moooooslim, so fuck him.

Post: #63

The big issue is that men don't have any expectation of privacy anymore. From making stray comments to messing up a date, everything now seems fair game to go public.

This woman anonymously hung this guy out to dry and now his whole family knows his private business. This sets a bad precedent.

Tomorrow it could be you or me getting "reported" anonymously ... yet having committed NO crime.

In the old days, the media would have told this woman: "If he committed no crime there is no story. If he did, go to the police and we'll report the crime."

But the media is no longer reporting facts, as such (i.e. police reports, assaults, etc.). They're now in the business of serving as an unofficial judge and jury, making up their own "laws" of proper behavior along the way.

It's pretty difficult to sue for libel if you're a celebrity. But if this guy's income is hit, he might have a case. If it were me, I'd drag her through the courts until she was penniless from lawyer's fees and mentally exhausted to the point of breakdown.

Someone needs to do this to one of these women or every man's personal history is going to be public knowledge everywhere.

Post: #64

(01-14-2018 03:11 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  Aziz Ansari tried to have sex with a girl.He asked her to blow him and she did.He wanted to have intercourse, the girl said no, so he stopped trying. The girl asked to leave so he called he a car and she left.

That's not how I read it.

He kept badgering her about it, and did so clumsily. When you get LMR is when push pull comes into play, sometimes even freeze out. You have to be willing to walk away, be disinterested. Instead, he seemed to have doubled down. Dude was clumsy with his physical escalation as well; if she consents to fingers in the vag but not your penis then you are doing something wrong.

But yeah I am with you, these days you either have tight game and overcome LMR or its sexual assualt and newsworthy apparrently.

Guy should have have invited her for a drink at his apartment. Escalated more slowly, start with a massage. Have her sit on your lap. I think he wasted 1-2 hours and a lot of money at that restaurant and so he was in a hurry.

Ungrateful bitch got head but even complains that he ordered white wine instead of red. Wow.

Post: #65

(01-15-2018 02:50 PM)Hypno Wrote:  He kept badgering her about it, and did so clumsily. When you get LMR is when push pull comes into play, sometimes even freeze out. You have to be willing to walk away, be disinterested. Instead, he seemed to have doubled down. Dude was clumsy with his physical escalation as well; if she consents to fingers in the vag but not your penis then you are doing something wrong.

Guy should have have invited her for a drink at his apartment. Escalated more slowly, start with a massage. Have her sit on your lap. I think he wasted 1-2 hours and a lot of money at that restaurant and so he was in a hurry.

This is ultimately the key, I think.

He has a career. He was in a hurry. Most starfuckers realize that they're just on a conveyor belt and this type of non-game has probably worked for him in the past. She gets a story about having lobster rolls with somebody famous and that's the deal.

She doesn't get it, and thought they were having a genuine personal interaction as friends and equals. She was not aware that she does not actually have a place in his life and that she doesn't add value.

He handled it like a clown, but he's basically a professional clown. One of them should have been more clued-in than this.

Post: #66

(01-14-2018 10:49 AM)Cobra Wrote:  Aziz Ansari's gamelessness aside, the chick went up to his apartment and was surprised he wanted to have sex, then had sex with him anyways and then complains the next day about how he did it.

So I really don't get how the thread is focusing on lack of game rather than the "fake sexual assault allegation" this really is. It would be nice to separate the two so we don't eat our own (men). That's what the liberals and women do.

I think Aziz is a hapless beta and likely a taint on Indian-American men. However he gets poon because of fame and that's still poon. When he gets a fake accusation, it's still a fake accusation against a fellow man.

I disagree with the bolded part. In this case the context and who he is matters.

Quoting Newsweek:
"Ansari has been a supporter of the Time’s Up movement, which aims to eliminate sexual misconduct, and wore a pin emblazoned with the campaign’s name at this year’s Golden Globe awards. He has also built his comedic career upon focusing on issues of race and sexual consent, earning him the title of a Refinery29 “certified woke bae” in 2016."

I do not consider him to be a man. He lost that card when he supported false and ridiculous allegations against other men. He deserves every second of this.

Post: #67

Quote:It's pretty difficult to sue for libel if you're a celebrity. But if this guy's income is hit, he might have a case. If it were me, I'd drag her through the courts until she was penniless from lawyer's fees and mentally exhausted to the point of breakdown.

Someone needs to do this to one of these women or every man's personal history is going to be public knowledge everywhere.

I’m not a lawyer but who is Aziz going to sue here? The girl used a fake name with the website. I guess he can sue the sites calling him an alleged rapist? All they have to do is put the word “alleged” in there and they are covered I think?

Post: #68

(01-15-2018 03:13 PM)eradicator Wrote:  I’m not a lawyer but who is Aziz going to sue here? The girl used a fake name with the website. I guess he can sue the sites calling him an alleged rapist? All they have to do is put the word “alleged” in there and they are covered I think?

I've wondered about this. Terms like "rape" and "sexual assault" have meanings. "Sexual misconduct" is more vague, but it raises the question of what happens when the media makes a serious accusation that isn't clearly supported by the story the accuser told.

Post: #69

I just checked out some of the other articles on that website. This guy's behavior is nothing he needs to apologize for compared to the shit these women write on that site.

Post: #70

(01-15-2018 03:01 PM)ComebackKid Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 10:49 AM)Cobra Wrote:  Aziz Ansari's gamelessness aside, the chick went up to his apartment and was surprised he wanted to have sex, then had sex with him anyways and then complains the next day about how he did it.

So I really don't get how the thread is focusing on lack of game rather than the "fake sexual assault allegation" this really is. It would be nice to separate the two so we don't eat our own (men). That's what the liberals and women do.

I think Aziz is a hapless beta and likely a taint on Indian-American men. However he gets poon because of fame and that's still poon. When he gets a fake accusation, it's still a fake accusation against a fellow man.

I disagree with the bolded part. In this case the context and who he is matters.

Quoting Newsweek:
"Ansari has been a supporter of the Time’s Up movement, which aims to eliminate sexual misconduct, and wore a pin emblazoned with the campaign’s name at this year’s Golden Globe awards. He has also built his comedic career upon focusing on issues of race and sexual consent, earning him the title of a Refinery29 “certified woke bae” in 2016."

I do not consider him to be a man. He lost that card when he supported false and ridiculous allegations against other men. He deserves every second of this.

I just read the article in the "babe" blog about what he did. Assuming the girl told the truth, he ran the first day bang recipe thing on steroids. He took it to such extreme that if somebody described on this forum having done something like that, he would likely be banned for being a disgrace to the community.

This is the same asshole who made a shit ton of money and became more famous by participating in campaigns fighting cis white male oppression and encouraging women to accuse men of whatever they perceive as "sexual misconduct". Time's Up Movement huh two faced manlet? Karma is a bitch, motherfucker.

Post: #71

(01-14-2018 07:16 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 07:02 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  The guy who devoted half of his standup "comedy" act to blaming men with the false rape culture narrative isn't immune to false charges of sexual assault. Wonder if that dose of reality will red pill him?

More likely :

Voxday - "SJW's always double down."

You were right.

Quote:“In September of last year, I met a woman at a party. We exchanged numbers. We texted back and forth and eventually went on a date. We went out to dinner, and afterwards we ended up engaging in sexual activity, which by all indications was completely consensual,” Ansari told Fox News in a written statement. “The next day, I got a text from her saying that although 'it may have seemed okay,' upon further reflection, she felt uncomfortable. It was true that everything did seem okay to me, so when I heard that it was not the case for her, I was surprised and concerned. I took her words to heart and responded privately after taking the time to process what she had said. I continue to support the movement that is happening in our culture. It is necessary and long overdue.”

Post: #72

I've been following along with the editorial/opinion responses to this story as well as a lot of social media commentary, and I have to say, it's like watching a shitty feminist remake of 300.

A Patriarchian slave army of a million ordinary women trying to tell them they're all idiots and have gone too far this time, while a tiny force of extremely dedicated overweight bluehairs bravely click the angry frownie face emoji and femsplain why nobody understands how Aziz Ansari's star power makes consent inherently problematic and they can't be questioned because they were all raped twice and are therefore experts.

It's pretty great.

Post: #73

(01-14-2018 05:16 PM)dicknixon72 Wrote:  WTF is the jamming fingers down one's throat repeatedly thing about?

Agreed...His gag-a-girl technique is way different than mine

Post: #74

Will somebody think of the white liberal women in the West for once?

Post: #75

I've read half of his "Modern Romance" book. Interesting statistics and good advice if you're a rookie.

As for his Netflix "Master of None" series, many cringe worthy parts. Feminism, Beta, not funny at all.