Post: #251

anyone know some west florida spots, like sarasota?
you guys are not selling miami

Post: #252

I must disagree about International Playboys opinion about Vegas having the highest quality girls in the U.S. I go to Vegas at least 3 times a year, Miami one or twice a year, and been to New York. The hottest looking girls (even though they are tougher to game than most cities) are HANDS DOWN IN L.A. They come from good backgrounds (high status), therefore, take care of themselves, beauty, being in shape, and the whole Hollywood thing has made them competitive. I would say that Vegas is a close number 2 though, and Miami number 3, and lastly New York. This is my opinion. My best friend and wingman is from Vegas, he lived there for 10 years, had a good business, cool pad, connections, good game. He moved to LA two years ago, and says the girls here blow away the Vegas girls. In Vegas, the local girls can be pretty average. And you also get a lot of mediocre girls that come into town from the Midwest, small cities. Then you will get the hotties thrown in there, but a lot of them come from other cities such as LA, New York, to party there.
I do agree you will find better Latin girls in Medellin, Rio, than you will in Miami or L.A., not even a comparison. And they have better personalities, values, are more respectful to men, etc. than the girls here.

Post: #253

LA/Vegas if you like blondes, real or fake.

Miami if you like latin girls, models, and international travellers (in season.)

NYC if you want volume and variety.

Vegas:
There is a lot of interchange between Vegas and LA, because LA party girls go to Vegas for the weekend to party (or work as strippers/hookers.)

Miami:
Your typical LA/OC blonde is somewhat out of place in Miami, probably only there for vacation. Because of the shift in the culture and environment they won't be happy there and will leave.

NYC:
NYC is everything. The quality is there, sometimes it just looks like its rarer because of the sheer fucking volume of people in such a small space. The guys I know that can bang a few girls a week (I can't) live in NYC.

Personally, I do well with LA girls, but I meet them in Vegas or NYC. I don't really like LA as a place to live.

Post: #254

(03-04-2012 06:02 PM)Golden Boy Wrote:  I must disagree about International Playboys opinion about Vegas having the highest quality girls in the U.S. I go to Vegas at least 3 times a year, Miami one or twice a year, and been to New York. The hottest looking girls (even though they are tougher to game than most cities) are HANDS DOWN IN L.A. They come from good backgrounds (high status), therefore, take care of themselves, beauty, being in shape, and the whole Hollywood thing has made them competitive. I would say that Vegas is a close number 2 though, and Miami number 3, and lastly New York. This is my opinion. My best friend and wingman is from Vegas, he lived there for 10 years, had a good business, cool pad, connections, good game. He moved to LA two years ago, and says the girls here blow away the Vegas girls. In Vegas, the local girls can be pretty average. And you also get a lot of mediocre girls that come into town from the Midwest, small cities. Then you will get the hotties thrown in there, but a lot of them come from other cities such as LA, New York, to party there.
I do agree you will find better Latin girls in Medellin, Rio, than you will in Miami or L.A., not even a comparison. And they have better personalities, values, are more respectful to men, etc. than the girls here.

This is simply a taste question.

I have crossed the 50 night threshold in all four cities. (Some cities way more than that obviously).

I rank them:

1. Miami
2. NYC
3. Las Vegas
4. LA

LA gets dissed in my book for the "concentration" factor.

I will go for some road work and see 3-8 fly girls in South Beach.

In LA (pick a hood, any hood) and I will see 1-3 of same quality.

Post: #255

Drawing the distinction between Vegas and L.A. is like splitting hairs. Girls from Arizona, Vegas, LAX, OC, SD are all SoCal.

It's like one big bloc really.

Post: #256

Are obesity rates in these places catching up with the rest of the US?

seems like it's out of control ...

Post: #257

Obesity is becoming a problem everywhere. Less prevalent on the West Coast, but a solid plurality of the girls here are fat. That's still better than Middle America, where all the girls not in high school seem to be fat.

Post: #258

(03-04-2012 07:36 PM)scorpio Wrote:  Obesity is becoming a problem everywhere. Less prevalent on the West Coast, but a solid plurality of the girls here are fat. That's still better than Middle America, where all the girls not in high school seem to be fat.

This is really terrible.
It's like a sci-fi/horror movie.
I don't understand why people are not horrified by this.

Post: #259

(03-04-2012 07:49 PM)The_CEO Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 07:36 PM)scorpio Wrote:  Obesity is becoming a problem everywhere. Less prevalent on the West Coast, but a solid plurality of the girls here are fat. That's still better than Middle America, where all the girls not in high school seem to be fat.

This is really terrible.
It's like a sci-fi/horror movie.
I don't understand why people are not horrified by this.

I AM horrified by this as I live in the upper Midwest. And to make it even worse many of the ones that are not fat do little to nothing to improve their looks.

If you get away from the cities a minority of them actually dress well or try to look nice. No heels, dresses, etc.

It sucks...

I've been with a number that would be pretty damn hot if they took the time to do something with themselves but for some reason some time spent on the hair and a nice outfit is too much for them.

Can't wait to get the hell out of here.

Post: #260

(03-04-2012 07:19 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 06:02 PM)Golden Boy Wrote:  I must disagree about International Playboys opinion about Vegas having the highest quality girls in the U.S. I go to Vegas at least 3 times a year, Miami one or twice a year, and been to New York. The hottest looking girls (even though they are tougher to game than most cities) are HANDS DOWN IN L.A. They come from good backgrounds (high status), therefore, take care of themselves, beauty, being in shape, and the whole Hollywood thing has made them competitive. I would say that Vegas is a close number 2 though, and Miami number 3, and lastly New York. This is my opinion. My best friend and wingman is from Vegas, he lived there for 10 years, had a good business, cool pad, connections, good game. He moved to LA two years ago, and says the girls here blow away the Vegas girls. In Vegas, the local girls can be pretty average. And you also get a lot of mediocre girls that come into town from the Midwest, small cities. Then you will get the hotties thrown in there, but a lot of them come from other cities such as LA, New York, to party there.
I do agree you will find better Latin girls in Medellin, Rio, than you will in Miami or L.A., not even a comparison. And they have better personalities, values, are more respectful to men, etc. than the girls here.

This is simply a taste question.

I have crossed the 50 night threshold in all four cities. (Some cities way more than that obviously).

I rank them:

1. Miami
2. NYC
3. Las Vegas
4. LA

LA gets dissed in my book for the "concentration" factor.

I will go for some road work and see 3-8 fly girls in South Beach.

In LA (pick a hood, any hood) and I will see 1-3 of same quality.

I have crossed the 50 night threshold in each city too, lived in Vegas, New York, and been lots to Miami, and I see better girls in the nightclubs and shopping malls (Beverly Center, The Grove, and Century City) in LA. I guess this is a subjective thing. We might be referring to day game, night locations. It is perhaps true that for day game, you may see more hot girls in Miami or NYC. And you are right, LA has the concentration factor. I guess what you are saying that only in certain cities within LA (such as Hollywood, West LA, or BH) you will see high quality chicks. When I say hot girls, I mean specifically girls in West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, West LA.But for me, overall, I have done better in LA than anywhere. There is not a lot of competition either from other dudes, where as on the east coast you have more guys with money and image to compete with than in LA. I guess all of these cities are good, because we refer to them in the threads regarding 1st tier cities in USA. A lot of our personal opinions have to do with where you have done well, your social circles in the town, career their, etc. I love Vegas and Miami game too, NYC is a little too cold or hot in summer, so i have not been lately. How is the night scene, day game, and girl scene in NYC lately? Anyone care to comment.

Post: #261

This blogger does a good comparison between NYC and LA women.

http://thecorner33.blogspot.com/2010/02/nyc-vs-la.html

Post: #262

(03-04-2012 07:26 PM)scorpio Wrote:  Drawing the distinction between Vegas and L.A. is like splitting hairs. Girls from Arizona, Vegas, LAX, OC, SD are all SoCal.

It's like one big bloc really.

Not true at all Scorp, gonna have to disagree that LA (not LAX) girls are different than girls from San Diego, and Orange County, and ESPECIALLY GIRLS FROM ARIZONA (no way are they So Cal). These girls are much more conservative, than LA girls and behind in their fashion, tastes. Also, in LA, you have many more types of girls (Asian, Anglos, african american chicks, European chicks, and chicks from all states), whereas in San Diego and Arizona, majority are either anglos, mixed with a few latinas and few other types. But LA chicks are more diverse, and from more backgrounds. They can also be more superficial though , on the down side, thats why it gets shot down in threads.Statements like this are bordering on trolling Scorp. And whomever, says that LA is land of the blondes is way off (I think babelfish 669 said this). I see many more dyed blondes in OC, San Diego, Scottsdale or Phoenix. In LA, the blond thing ended in the late 90s.

Post: #263

(03-05-2012 12:21 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  This blogger does a good comparison between NYC and LA women.

http://thecorner33.blogspot.com/2010/02/nyc-vs-la.html

OMG Henc, just read this bloggers post. This is GENIUS. This dude is so spot on, I cannot describe it any better. He says LA, Miami, and NYC have the hottest chicks. He states that if you mix looks with personality NYC girls win,but he agrees with me that on sheer looks (no personality) LA barely edges out Miami. And this is what I was referring to in my posts, in LA i see more head turners than other city because of the Hollywood thing, competitiveness factor, plastic surgery haven of Beverly Hills, and the fact that more girls here rely on meeting dudes to take care of them. Good job Henc +1 from me for that blog post. !!

Post: #264

(03-05-2012 12:25 AM)Golden Boy Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 07:26 PM)scorpio Wrote:  Drawing the distinction between Vegas and L.A. is like splitting hairs. Girls from Arizona, Vegas, LAX, OC, SD are all SoCal.

It's like one big bloc really.

Not true at all Scorp, gonna have to disagree that LA (not LAX) girls are different than girls from San Diego, and Orange County, and ESPECIALLY GIRLS FROM ARIZONA (no way are they So Cal). These girls are much more conservative, than LA girls and behind in their fashion, tastes. Also, in LA, you have many more types of girls (Asian, Anglos, african american chicks, European chicks, and chicks from all states), whereas in San Diego and Arizona, majority are either anglos, mixed with a few latinas and few other types. But LA chicks are more diverse, and from more backgrounds. They can also be more superficial though , on the down side, thats why it gets shot down in threads.Statements like this are bordering on trolling Scorp. And whomever, says that LA is land of the blondes is way off (I think babelfish 669 said this). I see many more dyed blondes in OC, San Diego, Scottsdale or Phoenix. In LA, the blond thing ended in the late 90s.

Agreed with this.

You see way more of the stereotypical "LA Blonde Girl" in OC or San Diego.

Even then you don't see it as much as you think.

Well, maybe you do in OC.

Golden -

You might enjoy my breakdown of South Florida VS Southern California.

Way more thorough than that other one (although that one was good too).

California Game VS Florida Game for International Playboys http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2011/08/cal...yboys.html

Post: #265

(03-05-2012 12:55 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-05-2012 12:25 AM)Golden Boy Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 07:26 PM)scorpio Wrote:  Drawing the distinction between Vegas and L.A. is like splitting hairs. Girls from Arizona, Vegas, LAX, OC, SD are all SoCal.

It's like one big bloc really.

Not true at all Scorp, gonna have to disagree that LA (not LAX) girls are different than girls from San Diego, and Orange County, and ESPECIALLY GIRLS FROM ARIZONA (no way are they So Cal). These girls are much more conservative, than LA girls and behind in their fashion, tastes. Also, in LA, you have many more types of girls (Asian, Anglos, african american chicks, European chicks, and chicks from all states), whereas in San Diego and Arizona, majority are either anglos, mixed with a few latinas and few other types. But LA chicks are more diverse, and from more backgrounds. They can also be more superficial though , on the down side, thats why it gets shot down in threads.Statements like this are bordering on trolling Scorp. And whomever, says that LA is land of the blondes is way off (I think babelfish 669 said this). I see many more dyed blondes in OC, San Diego, Scottsdale or Phoenix. In LA, the blond thing ended in the late 90s.

Agreed with this.

You see way more of the stereotypical "LA Blonde Girl" in OC or San Diego.

Even then you don't see it as much as you think.

Well, maybe you do in OC.

Golden -

You might enjoy my breakdown of South Florida VS Southern California.

Way more thorough than that other one (although that one was good too).

California Game VS Florida Game for International Playboys http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2011/08/cal...yboys.html

Just read your breakdown/mini blog on this G- Man. That was GOOD, BRILLIANT, SHIT IN YOUR PANTS FUNNY stuff. Holy, cow, the analogies, metaphors in this are hilarious, and borderline on great comedic and satirical writing. I don't fare out as well in Miami as i do in LA, this is so true. But boy are you write, the hot latinas any day in any city (Miami, Colombia, Brazil) blow any other type of girls... period. +1 from me G-Man for your website and contributions to this forum, we can all learn from TRUE INTERNATIONAL PLAYBOYS like you.....

Post: #266

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/reales...ml?_r=1&hp

Post: #267

In comparing all these places as far as women go, I think it all depends on the time of year. In Miami during peak season you are gonna find more bad bitches than probably anywhere in the states. I'm not sure how it goes in NYC or LA though. In Vegas I have also found this to be the case. The busier town is the more quality there is.

Post: #268

So, I'm definitely over Miami. I'm gonna spend another 6 months here raking up cash, cause I'm banking right now. I'm gonna save up at least $15k and head to South America for as long as I can (I also plan on writing a book about my experience). I need to reward myself for the hard work I've put in and some of the hell Miami's put me through. Don't get me wrong, I've made some great friends and had a lot of fun. I'll have fun and make friends anywhere I go, but in Miami I know I'm limiting myself. I feel like here I'm only getting 50% out of life when I should be getting 100%. It's just not my spot. People for the most part suck. The women are the worst in the world (As far as attitudes go and ease, they are definitely beautiful though). I feel like I suck at game sometimes, but then I realize it's just Miami sucks. It takes me leaving Miami to realize this. When I travel it feels like I'm in a planet with different women, and they're so much easier! I'm not gonna say miami straight up sucks, it's just for certain types of people. If you're sitting on a nice bankroll, miami could be your spot. Right now though, where I'm at in life, Miami is not a place for me, and even if I am sitting on a nice stack of money, I'd preffer other places where people are more genuine.

Yes, Miami has some amazing tallent as far as looks go, but it's also hands down the hardest place I've ever been to pick up, nowhere comes even close! The competition is fierce! The women think they are way hotter than they actually are. I think part of it also has to do with a lot of the guys down here try and pull any ass they can. So when a 5 has dudes hollering at them all day, she's gonna think she's a 9. I've found myself here hitting up girls I would normally never call again to try and get sex because I'm in a dry spell, and they won't answer my calls. It's so frusterating. I think to myself, "Damn, in Brazil or Colorado, I probably would have never fucked this girl in the first place, and here in Miami I can't even get a second bang!?" It's funny how you can go somewhere with much higher quality women, but yet you're pulling much lower quality than you were in the place with the lower quality women. You would think since there are so many beautiful girls it might humble them a little, but that's definitely not the case. I'm also a white boy which makes me a minority here. In many places I would use that to my advantage. In Brazil it seemed to work to my advantage a lot, but here in Miami I feel it may work against me. Maybe I just don't have the Miami swagger. The story could be different for others, who knows. I don't know many cats that are banging frequently out here though, and the ones that are, definitely aren't pulling real high quality.

For anyone thinking of moving to Miami, just know that the competition is very high, and the women are very hard. I thought it was gonna be a pussy paradise, and yes, there are tons of beautiful women, but good luck pulling them. The place I came to Miami from at any given night probably had close to a 5 or 6 guy ratio to 1 girl, and I still pull much higher quality there. You'd have to come down and experience yourself to see what I'm saying. It may be a good place to vacation for a week, and maybe you'll come out for a week and get lucky and pull a cute tourist girl, but trust me, it's much different living here. Miami is for top notch play boys only. I feel I have solid game. I've pulled some real nice tallent, and in other places I'd pull frequently, sometimes 3 or 4 7's and 8's a month, but here in Miami, there are times I'll have 3 month dry spells. Shit sucks. I've decided I just need to get out of here. Can't wait to be around those genuine latina broads. For you older playboys that spend time in MIA? Do you think it's much harder than a lot of other places you've been to as well? My Argentine roomate tells me that he feels it's much easier than argentina, but pretty much anyone whos read up on the forum about argentina can probably come to the conclusion that Argentina must be a damn hard place to pull.

Post: #269

IP thanks for your honest post

Interesting to hear as most people such as myself fly in for a weekend then head home

Seems like it is best to keep it as a place to visit.

Post: #270

Yep, that's my thought exactly. I make it sounds like it's a terrible place, it's not. Theres a lot to do and its definitely a nice place to visit. Just don't expect just because there are gorgeous women that you'll be fucking all of them. Also a hard place to meet people. It's not that you won't meet people, it's just 10 times harder to meet good geniune people than other places. At least the types of people I like to hang out with. How do you do as far as pulling girls goes in MIA bigxxx?

Post: #271

One thing that I think Miami did for me though was improve my game. At first I thought it may have fucked it up because at some points I just get sick of approaching and getting rejected. I'll go a week sometimes without approaching. But then when I traveled last, I realized how easy it was and that my game had definitely improved. I'll see how my game fairs in NYC next month, though I have a feeling the competition could be pretty tough in NYC as well. I just don't see anywhere being as tough as Miami. I mean shit, in Brazil when I didn't speak the language it was still much easier than MIA and 85% of my options were eliminated because they didn't speak english (Which later I just got past that and tried in shitty portuguese).

Post: #272

IP first time there I scored with a tourist and overall that trip was a blast. Successive trips were still fun although I didn't pull anything. But I do the whole hotel on collins-b service 3 nights then back home

It doesnt surprise me day to day is much different

Post: #273

Another reason I may not pull as much in MIA is because I'm not very good at club game as well. All the tourists like to go to the clubs. I'm not much of a dancer, I'm more of a talker, and it's hard to talk at clubs. It's hard for me to build intimacy at clubs. At the bars here you don't find much quality. Maybe that's why I was so much better in CO and Brazil. Most of the places I picked up girls weren't at clubs. It was more bars and day game or social circle. Though even then, I had a much better success rate in clubs in Brazil or CO than I do here in MIA. I even have all the hook ups to most clubs. I'm getting into LIV free and a lot of places I'll get free bottle service. Even with free bottle service it's still not very easy. These days half the club has bottle service, especially if you're at some of the upscale places. A place like Mokkai, 85% of the club is at a table with bottles, maybe more! There just isn't much of a bar scene here in Miami or maybe I just don't know the spots to go. A lot of the spots I like as far as vibe just don't have talent.

Post: #274

Glad to hear you are getting out of Miami bro. I lived there for 2 years (I got down there about 8 months before you did) and I don't miss it one bit.

I didn't read the whole thread, but did you ever make it to the Keys? I liked it down there much more than MIA. I remember coming back from the Keys and seeing the "Welcome to Miami-Dade County" and feeling like I just got sucker punched in the gut.

Also, did you get hit on by a lot of gay dudes like I did? Maybe it was because I was scrawny and let my hair grow out, but there were so many times where dudes propped me after a short convo.

Post: #275

Yeah I made it to the keys, and the keys kick ass. It's just a great place to get away and relax. I haven't been down there on a big weekend, but it didn't seem like a good place to pick up either. I definitely like getting away for a couple days down there but I could definitely not see myself living down in the keys. It's way too far from everything. How was your success with women in MIA? Yeah, I get a lot of homos hitting on me. I'm a skinny guy as well. I try and work out but with two jobs its real tough to keep up with it. Some weeks I do well, others I don't work out at all. That's another thing as far as competition goes. A lot of people out here work out a lot. As soon as I get to south america and drop my two jobs I plan on working out much more. I'm not going for the roid giant look, I just want a nice slim cut look. It's easy for me to get a 6 pack and some abs going since I'm skinny. All in all though, fuck MIA. I'm gonna miss the good friends I made down here and the good friends I have down here I knew from before I moved out here, but I don't think I'll miss Miami itself much. I'll miss the weather and the ease of making money and looking at the talent (But whatever, I'm not fucking much of it). But the people in general, I won't be missing much at all.