Post: #276

Glad to hear that bumble is working out for some of you. I will give it a go after new years. Perhaps my timing was off when I tried it in the fall.

(12-14-2017 06:59 PM)kash_MD Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 02:17 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  Bumble has been hoppin' the last couple weeks. Tons of matches and seemingly eager targets. Same thing happened a couple months ago when I got my first pro photo.
Enjoy cuffing season while it lasts.

Bumble has been the best thing that has ever happened to me. Tons of matches daily, and they message first.

Moved to a major east coast metro and in the past year and a half I've probably been with 50+ girls I would say 75% off of bumble a, 3 - 5 off tinder, 3 - 5 off POF, 3 - 5 off CMB, 1 off of OKC, and 2 real life work bangs.

I did pay for bumble coins to try to pick up the hotter ones but it was 25 dollars that did not work and would not recommend it. With that said, with the amount of pussy I've been able to get off of bumble it was my way of saying thank you.

Post: #277

(12-14-2017 07:12 PM)HedoRick Wrote:  Glad to hear that bumble is working out for some of you. I will give it a go after new years. Perhaps my timing was off when I tried it in the fall.

Same. I think it is the better alternatives. The fact that it cuts matches if a girl doesn't respond compensates for the attention whoring on tinder. I've never found bots on bumble.

Post: #278

Has anyone tried the other bumble modes too? I looked at BFF for a little and it seems like it might be a good place to seek out other wings. It does feel weird swiping on dudes though.....

Also, has anyone had any issues adding data to the "about me" section? Since I've installed this app, I've never been able to add anything to it, just pictures.

Post: #279

(12-15-2017 10:53 AM)rapaz12 Wrote:  Has anyone tried the other bumble modes too? I looked at BFF for a little and it seems like it might be a good place to seek out other wings. It does feel weird swiping on dudes though.....

Also, has anyone had any issues adding data to the "about me" section? Since I've installed this app, I've never been able to add anything to it, just pictures.

I spam cold approach whereas tinder/bumble are fallback instead of actual game IMHO. With respect to wings, if you are spamming cold approach, you find wings. Girls you pull, take digits, and pull some more. Dudes, you would likely get blocked by or possibly even fight with. Just being a cool guy, you make new friends and wings. At the gym, i've made quite a few friends and gym partners over the years. This is actual game. Interestingly enough, game translates everywhere from job interviews, to hooking up with girls, and making new friends.

Post: #280

Meetjoeblack,it seems we are on the same page about things then.
I just get tired of hearing guys lament about hoe dumb / stupid women are because they don't text back or put any effort.

All it takes is one "natural alpha good looking playboy" type friend to show you the other side of the coin. Women certainly are texting back, it's just only to the top X% of guys in their roster.

And to bring it back on the topic of Bumble, this app cannot be your main source of nutrition, but it can certainly supplement and be part of a balanced diet

Post: #281

(12-15-2017 03:25 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  Meetjoeblack,it seems we are on the same page about things then.
I just get tired of hearing guys lament about hoe dumb / stupid women are because they don't text back or put any effort.

Cheers mate!

I know many guys who ebrag about tinder/bumble. They post bios of being on steroids and their parent's beach house but, they have nothing and if pushed to approach, they would run out of the bar/club screaming while throwing a hissy fit. I know other guys who do nothing, rely heavily on social circle, and do creepy shit to put themselves over. Like, they would talk you down or create rumors and virtue signal their moral superiority. Cowardice at its finest.

(12-15-2017 03:25 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  All it takes is one "natural alpha good looking playboy" type friend to show you the other side of the coin. Women certainly are texting back, it's just only to the top X% of guys in their roster.

Exactly. Women be skiing down cawk mountain. Be running through playboys and cucks and beta male providers are expected to foot the bill when it all goes down. I WONT DO IT.

Key is SMV. PERIOD.

I watched a cuck follow a 30 + divorced single mom around the bar during her workout and this same said male would ebrag about his game. I've never seen anything more pathetic. You cannot get more bottom feeder then single moms.

(12-15-2017 03:25 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  And to bring it back on the topic of Bumble, this app cannot be your main source of nutrition, but it can certainly supplement and be part of a balanced diet

cheers mate! We're on the same page.

Post: #282

Post: #283

(12-14-2017 06:11 PM)meetjoeblack Wrote:  

(12-11-2017 06:43 PM)corsega Wrote:  I've gotten 30 numbers, most of the numbers have flaked. .

No offense bud but, that is indicative of your game. Not shocked.

Maybe. I've switched things up after posting that, I now go for the date pitch right away after 5-6 messages, and get them locked down for a date/time rather than texting with them for a while, it seems to be working better.

In any case, I am in San Francisco, the worst city in the US for Game, and the flakiest city in the US in terms of culture (maybe second to LA). Every guy gets flaked on here.

Post: #284

(12-15-2017 08:42 PM)corsega Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:11 PM)meetjoeblack Wrote:  

(12-11-2017 06:43 PM)corsega Wrote:  I've gotten 30 numbers, most of the numbers have flaked. .

No offense bud but, that is indicative of your game. Not shocked.

Maybe. I've switched things up after posting that, I now go for the date pitch right away after 5-6 messages, and get them locked down for a date/time rather than texting with them for a while, it seems to be working better.

That is the key... I don't waste much time getting the number

The other key is your about me section has to have a conversation starter, its gotta be witty, even though the girl is messaging first you've got to have the conversation starter that easily builds comfort and leads to date/plans.

It's much harder if you give them nothing to work with and they start off with a hi or hello, you're starting from behind at that point.

bumble is a pussy mine when used correctly .

Post: #285

(12-15-2017 10:55 PM)kash_MD Wrote:  That is the key... I don't waste much time getting the number

The other key is your about me section has to have a conversation starter, its gotta be witty, even though the girl is messaging first you've got to have the conversation starter that easily builds comfort and leads to date/plans.

It's much harder if you give them nothing to work with and they start off with a hi or hello, you're starting from behind at that point.

bumble is a pussy mine when used correctly .

My social media and online needs an overhaul but, I rely heavily on actual game and pickup. In part, I have a fear of the cucking that is prevalent online so, a woman gets knocked up, and thats your baby. Woman just jumped off some dude's cawk and calls you up. Cesspool of stds. A lot of these women are SJWs, women studies and liberal arts majors (equivalent of cereal box education), nonfree thinkers, low hanging fruit, and whores. Now, finding the one alternative in the history of online dating is not an argument.

Again, I am not saying not to swipe right or use online but, I am saying, diversity in pickup, actual cold approach goes along way. My mate and I matched with this girl. She is a attention whore. Another wing nailed her. Its purely ego gratification for her and other jump off low hanging fruit.

I've been ripping Jlaix's ETP 2.0 program. thus far, the emphasis is pretty poignant, humor bios and pics, something that portrays lifestyle, avoidance of TRY HARD (pics with good looking women as its transparent as to what you are doing), anything that emphasizes passions and purpose. I am still going through it but, I will tell you what I come of it.

Post: #286

(12-15-2017 08:42 PM)corsega Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:11 PM)meetjoeblack Wrote:  

(12-11-2017 06:43 PM)corsega Wrote:  I've gotten 30 numbers, most of the numbers have flaked. .

No offense bud but, that is indicative of your game. Not shocked.

Maybe. I've switched things up after posting that, I now go for the date pitch right away after 5-6 messages, and get them locked down for a date/time rather than texting with them for a while, it seems to be working better.

I was being a bit of a dick there but, I found you being confrontational and boasting about having it all figured out so, I fired back.

I don't count cold approaches as in, X amount, how many digits, batting average, close ratio, analytics, etc. Its the mating call of the loser IMHO. My ratio would be gross.

Manlet, balding, below average penor size, grew up poor, socially inept, AFC, under weight, etc. I am not trying to compete there. My shift in game was shaving my head. Growing facial hair (goatee lol), correcting my posture, gaining lean muscle mass, developing confidence, pursuing cold approach regardless of blow outs no matter how harsh, having sexual encounters and blowing on a college girl's face regardless of way below average penor size.

Its pretty ridiculous where my game has gotten given the place of origins I came from. The amount of being emasculated by women, the beta male provider beginnings, and the shift from that place. Changing my paradigm from "what do I say?" to, coming into the knowing that, I am not getting out of this alive? That, I have lost a father and sister in a terrible unnecessary accident, experienced a series of traumas in life, and I AM STILL FUCKING HERE!

I've burned the boats a long time ago. Conquer or perish. I know my true north. I am after top form SMV. I want a wife, a quality woman, the sort to be the mother of my children. This is why I found and pursued game. I will acquire this or my genes will be weeded out of existence. No cratered SMV for me, no single moms, bastard children or low hanging fruit. Its not just about looks because this wont last forever but, fat is unacceptable. Substance, free thinker, pursuing self knowledge, not following the beaten path.

If I die tomorrow, I swear, I did everything humanly possible within my power every time without fail. Every blow out, ever flake, every time a woman ghosts, I did the best that I could in that given situation.

#NEXTSET

Post: #287

I'm also a manlet and bald, so we're in the same boat. However, I think I'm proof that one can still do pretty well online while not being good-looking, just by hacking the system and optimizing one's bio.

I'd caution you against setting your sights on a wife. Long-term monogamy is impossible: http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2012/12/0...ummarized/

But I want to have kids some day myself. I won't be finding the future mother of my children on an app.

Post: #288

I know we've touched on this briefly before, but what are you guys doing, specifically, with chicks who just answer your questions and say nothing else to keep the convo going? It's a personal pet-peeve of mine and I usually just stop messaging but I still feel like I'm leaving p00sy on the table.

Post: #289

(01-04-2018 03:26 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  I know we've touched on this briefly before, but what are you guys doing, specifically, with chicks who just answer your questions and say nothing else to keep the convo going? It's a personal pet-peeve of mine and I usually just stop messaging but I still feel like I'm leaving p00sy on the table.

Realistically, these girls are probably just not that interested in you. They are giving just enough back so you keep messaging and validating them while they are bored.
If there's 0 investment back on the girls part, it's usually best to just leave it be.

Post: #290

(01-04-2018 03:31 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 03:26 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  I know we've touched on this briefly before, but what are you guys doing, specifically, with chicks who just answer your questions and say nothing else to keep the convo going? It's a personal pet-peeve of mine and I usually just stop messaging but I still feel like I'm leaving p00sy on the table.

Realistically, these girls are probably just not that interested in you. They are giving just enough back so you keep messaging and validating them while they are bored.
If there's 0 investment back on the girls part, it's usually best to just leave it be.

Yeah, I agree. I did re-engage a chick who did this recently with just my number. She was completely engaged over the phone but extremely lackluster online. I ended up smashing the first night I met up with her.
I think I'll just make it a habit of messaging my number, along with "I'm no good at perpetual texting" and if they buy in, go from there, if not, oh well.

Post: #291

(01-04-2018 03:31 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  Realistically, these girls are probably just not that interested in you. They are giving just enough back so you keep messaging and validating them while they are bored. If there's 0 investment back on the girls part, it's usually best to just leave it be.

I'm trying to figure this one out as well. If a guy is going to make the leap to asking for a meetup, you'd think he'd want to time it at the peak in the dynamics of the conversation when there seems to be synchronicity or things are getting increasingly intimate with sharing personal biography. Instead what tends to happen is the converation gradually loses steam.

Part of the problem is the context of the conversation, that women are only getting back to the chat when they feel like it. Conversations rely on steady escalation, but breaking it up with hours or even days worth of gap just lets the air out of the balloon again.

Out of all my pre-holiday leads all of them have gone silent and instead of trying to pump life in them again I unmatched all but one who I will probably also unmatch.

I mean, there's just very little investment on display in these chats and the net result is women come across as disinterested. Unless she's super hot I'm just not going to stick my neck out to ask for a meetup. She's gotta show some enthusiasm first.

I like the idea of terminating things with the hail-mary-pass of giving out a number but at the same time, it still comes across as needy to me. If they were that interested you wouldn't expect them to let the conversation dead-end like this. But I guess at that stage there's nothing to lose. I am just tired of going on lackluster icebreakers.

I mean, women are just wasting a guy's time matching when their level of interest is so marginal.

Post: #292

BUMBLE

“Curbing world overpopulation one expired chat at a time.”

Yes, yes let the women initiate...

Ain’t nobody meetin’.
Ain’t no fuckin’ goin’ on.
Ain’t no babies gettin’ born.
Mmmhmm

Post: #293

BUMBLE

“You better like Asians!”

Post: #294

(01-04-2018 03:39 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 03:31 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 03:26 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  I know we've touched on this briefly before, but what are you guys doing, specifically, with chicks who just answer your questions and say nothing else to keep the convo going? It's a personal pet-peeve of mine and I usually just stop messaging but I still feel like I'm leaving p00sy on the table.

Realistically, these girls are probably just not that interested in you. They are giving just enough back so you keep messaging and validating them while they are bored.
If there's 0 investment back on the girls part, it's usually best to just leave it be.

Yeah, I agree. I did re-engage a chick who did this recently with just my number. She was completely engaged over the phone but extremely lackluster online. I ended up smashing the first night I met up with her.
I think I'll just make it a habit of messaging my number, along with "I'm no good at perpetual texting" and if they buy in, go from there, if not, oh well.

This is essentially what I do. I'll try texting a bit and if it seems dull, I'll just suggest a meet and ask for her number. If not that, I'll text that I'm a bad texter and that we can talk on the phone later and then I'll suggest a date if she seems somewhat interesting during the call.

Post: #295

One thing I want to throw out there:
You guys - being the logical, pragmatic, and intelligent men you are - are messaging girls with too much of a goal in mind. Simply enjoy the process and have conversations with these girls during your downtime when you are on your phone. Stop thinking too much about "whats my next step?" Stop thinking too much about how to get her number and get off the app and how to get her to meet up. Instead just simply converse and banter, try and enjoy the process. If a girl is feeling you, things will naturally progress in a meet-up if that is in the cards for you two.

Try and "dumb things down" a bit and just try and enjoy conversing with beautiful women that swiped right on you. Things will fall into place a little bit easier.

I'm not saying don't apply game or don't logically think anything through, but just tone that down a little bit.

Post: #296

(01-05-2018 02:25 AM)The_e_man Wrote:  One thing I want to throw out there:
You guys - being the logical, pragmatic, and intelligent men you are - are messaging girls with too much of a goal in mind. Simply enjoy the process and have conversations with these girls during your downtime when you are on your phone. Stop thinking too much about "whats my next step?" Stop thinking too much about how to get her number and get off the app and how to get her to meet up. Instead just simply converse and banter, try and enjoy the process. If a girl is feeling you, things will naturally progress in a meet-up if that is in the cards for you two.

Try and "dumb things down" a bit and just try and enjoy conversing with beautiful women that swiped right on you. Things will fall into place a little bit easier.

I'm not saying don't apply game or don't logically think anything through, but just tone that down a little bit.

I understand your point. It sounds good in theory, but when you're dealing with ten, twenty different women, it's becomes a time sink with minimal return for your effort.
Sometimes you just know when a chick is cool an engaged, oftentimes you'll get a bullshit "Hi" which is simply an invitation to entertain her. There is no science to this, but I usually go with my gut. My days of providing entertainment and work-day distractions for random bishes are over.
Besides, online dating should only be a supplement to your real world game. Not your primary source of poon.

Post: #297

Just thought I'd give you guys a heads up:

I asked my buddy to take a few pro photos of me (he did it for free) and these are the ones I used:

-Photo of me suited up in a garden area, sunglasses, looking away from the camera
-Photo of me riding my Harley, casual clothing, no helmet, sunglasses
-Photo of me hands on hips, sunglasses, casual/surfer clothing, smiling looking away from the camera

There were a few others but I didn't upload them, I kept a few old photos.


The results: I've gotten about 26 matches on Bumble in since Monday night. (some I've unmatched)

Fucking fantastic !

Post: #298

I am starting to see a mass exodus of better quality girls leaving tinder for bumble. It's so good in fact, that I've elected dropping out of tinder soon.

Tinder in my area has been basically reduced to white trash, pof quality of women. Bumble has been the opposite for me lately. I racked up a bunch of matches that were much hotter than the average tinder girl.

I let photofeeler pic the best pics for use, but I also included a picture of me hanging out with my shih Tzu at the park.

Post: #299

I re-joined bumble again but deleted it again after 48 hours. I got 0 matches, so spending any more effort on there is a waste of time.
Great feedback though! It's time to go monk mode and sort my life out first.

The women I have been dating that I've met and pursued in person are ghosting, being flakey and not that interested in meeting up so I thought I would try meet some women online.

Something has changed, I am now late 30's and being a student is not acceptable in their eyes. Income expectations of women have gone up. In person I can pass for late 20's.

I don't think online dating is going to work for me until I find a decent job.

Post: #300

Limiting beliefs