Post: #201

Seems like a good strategy would be to try to line up a date(s) in the early to mid evening with a previous number close or Tinder match. Once those are over hopefully it's after midnight and you can go stand outside the exit to one of the big clubs and approach the women as they are leaving, as some of you have described above. I've done that in other cities and I think it's a very underrated way to easily meet women who are eager to keep the party going or looking to hook up to complete their evening.

Post: #202

^
That sounds like a good strategy if you're a Vegas local, or perhaps if you're in town solo. However, as a tourist visiting in a group, you're likely going to be partying at night until 4am, as well as in the day time especially in summer (or gambling, etc). I can tell you that the last thing in the world you're going to want to do on a Vegas weekend is to go on a one-on-one date at 9pm.

Furthermore, it's pretty damn tough to meet Vegas locals if you're a tourist on the strip on the weekend. I've probably met ~200 girls in Vegas clubs in my 10+ trips there (ie: got numbers, hooked up, or banged), and I cannot recall EVER meeting a Vegas local. The one time I ever did was at the casino after the club, and the only reason she was there is because of her friend visiting from out of town. If you're going for the tourists, there's virtually no chance that a tourist girl is going to break away from her group on their Vegas weekend to meet a guy for a date. They're partying just as hard as we are.

Here's a solid strategy for a 2-3 night trip:

1) Get a ton of numbers on the first night. Go for the bang, but don't be reluctant to take a number if its not happening. Then, if you're staying nearby (especially if same hotel!), have her and her friends come to pre-drink in your room. If you're going to the same club, try to meet up there. Keep it fun the entire time - nobody meets their future wife on the strip haha. If you're both going to Omnia on the night after you met at the day party, and she seeks you out when she gets there, there's a solid chance you're going to bang her.

2) Avoid going during peak weekends. Memorial Day and Labor Day in Vegas are an absolute fucking nightmare. Not only are the lines and charges much more for the clubs, but everything else also has a line - food, cabs, etc. I've seen taxi lines of 2+ hours on MDW. Logistics will also be worse since the hotels with the clubs will be charging $400+/night, and good luck getting a girl in her heels to walk halfway across the strip with you. Meanwhile, random weekends can be amazing. I was in town on a rainy weekend this January with a buddy, and it was one of the best nights I've had at Hakkasan - same numbers of girls as MDW, but without the clusterfuck

3) Buy pre-sale tickets for the club, or get on the guest list. If you have girls in the group, guest list can get you in for free or for $20 or so, though you usually have to show up before midnight. Inside the club, avoid the dance floor at all costs, unless you're really tall and good looking. At Hakkasan especially, you can literally get caught on the dance floor for an hour and not be able to move, it once happened to me and I will never step foot on that dance floor again. Post up in areas with a lot of foot traffic and some space. At XS (my fav club), the outside area next to the pool, as well as the outer loop on the inside, are money for meeting chicks.

4) If nothing strikes at the club, hanging outside of the club is a solid move as Veloce said. I'm often too tired for this, but there are dozens of hotties pouring out of the club starting at 2am. There will be a lot of girls in the casinos till probably ~5am.

5) Finally, be direct. The absolute best part about Vegas is there are literally hundreds of bangable women all over the clubs and casinos. You'll never run out of girls to approach. If she blows you out, on to the next one.

Post: #203

Good info, is Labor Day really that bad? I was deciding whether to go to Vegas or NYC for Labor Day because getting time off at work now is a pain in the ass and my shift isn't ideal. Flight and hotel wasn't too bad but I would be flying in Saturday and not Friday so I already miss a day.

Post: #204

Most weekends in Vegas already have a ton of people in the popular spots. I'd say too many people, which is why I avoid going anywhere on the weekend. Holiday weekends just make it ten times worse without much of a benefit.

Post: #205

There are a ton of (annoying) East Coasters in Vegas for Labor Day Weekend. I hate going there that weekend. Its as bad as they say. The thing is, Labor Day and Memorial Day is when all the clubs would go all out and get the best musical acts. Now they just book them every weekend, but it's still going to be nuts.

Post: #206

(08-06-2017 01:04 PM)TejasRojo Wrote:  Good info, is Labor Day really that bad? I was deciding whether to go to Vegas or NYC for Labor Day because getting time off at work now is a pain in the ass and my shift isn't ideal. Flight and hotel wasn't too bad but I would be flying in Saturday and not Friday so I already miss a day.

It's pretty bad, but given the circumstances it might be one of few opportunities for you to make it. I'm lucky to live about a ~4 hour drive away, so I can basically go on a whim.

If you have no option besides going on Labor Day, the most important tip I can give you is make sure your logistics are as tight as they can possibly get. For example, if you're hitting XS, your hotel room is at the Encore, Wynn, or perhaps Palazzo/Venetian. If you're clubbing at Hakk, you're at the MGM or one of the hotels next door. There will still be girls at the clubs, and presale tickets will still get you in if you arrive on time - just be prepared for even the most basic things (food, cab lines, drinks at bars, presale ticket lines, etc) to take extra time.

Here's a story from Memorial Day 2 years ago (which is similar to Labor Day). I was staying with a few friends at Monte Carlo, a mediocre hotel, for $400/night. We've regularly gotten suites at Encore or Palazzo for ~$300/night on weekends, so it was crazy overpriced already. Met a girl outside of Omnia around 3am and somehow convinced her within 5 mins to go drink in my room. We go outside, and the cab line is literally about 300 people deep. I offer the guy $40 to cut the line, and he straight up laughed at me. I had $100 cash, but wasn't willing to throw that much, and I have a strong feeling he would've said no as well. I walked to one of the "limo" SUVs, and got quoted $150. To go just over one fucking mile. After that, as you may expect, the entire vibe was gone and she dipped.

If your logistics are good, you can still have a great time. Just consider if there are other weekends that work as well.

Post: #207

What's the crowd like during rodeo week in December? I had assumed it would be a sausage fest but read somewhere it's the opposite. I'm itching for a Vegas trip and have November and December (after Halloween and before Christmas) potentially free.

Any specific time within that that will be optimal?

Post: #208

(08-06-2017 01:18 PM)Corollary Wrote:  Most weekends in Vegas already have a ton of people in the popular spots. I'd say too many people, which is why I avoid going anywhere on the weekend. Holiday weekends just make it ten times worse without much of a benefit.

I'm not a big Vegas fan, have been there a few times, only time I was truly impressed was when I went to Xs on a Monday night - mostly locals - and the talent was insane.

Post: #209

Negatives about Vegas...
-Almost everything is designed to take your money. A lot of the hotels have even started charging for parking on top of their $30 resort fee and almost 20% tax.
-Logistics can be tough. If your hotel is not the next hotel over from the venue, you will have to take a taxi or Uber which can involve a long walk just to get to the taxi stand then a long wait for the taxi.
-Venue changes are difficult if not impossible. You are pretty much locked into the club you start in. Although you could take a girl out of the club to one of the "quieter" bars nearby.
-There are lots of fatties like everywhere in the USA and there are lots of ratchet, sleezy women.
-Summer is way too hot for a human being.
-Did I say you will need at least a $200 a day budget for one person sharing a hotel room?


Positives about Vegas:
+There are also lots of hot women. A female friend I have describes it like this, "When I go out in Southern California there are lots of hot guys and only a few hot girls. When I go to Vegas there are lots of hot girls and hardly any hot guys." Most of the guys in Vegas seem to spend too much time in the office, meaning they are out of shape and rely on money instead of game. I have an 8.5/ 10 pool body and got tons of attention when I went several weeks ago to the pool parties.
+Women in Vegas are DTF. I had hot women in their early 20s approaching me (I am over 35). Again though, the problem can be logistics.
+The energy is super fun for a few days.
+You can find cheapish deals during slow periods. Also there is great, reasonably prices (for America) food if you look around a bit.
+If you go with a girl who is hooked up with (good) promoters, you can skip the lines and get VIP entrance into most clubs.
+Walking around is fun and there is some great people watching, but you will become disgusted with humanity.
Overall I like Vegas once a year for like 3 days but not on weekends in the summer.

Post: #210

Why would anyone go to Vegas on the cheap? Doesn't make any sense.

Are you prepared to walk miles from your Super 8 by the airport to get to the strip?

Post: #211

There's a decent bus system for the strip and other places. The RTC system, and the drivers are generally nice if you aren't a dick. I don't know if they go to the Super 8, but it's a way to save money and I would even suggest it to most people here. Not really for ALL your transport needs, but during the day when you're sightseeing or going back to the hotel with your dick in your hand at night.

Post: #212

Vegas is somewhere to go wild and that includes with your paycheck. You ain't gonna impress any bitches there. Even the illegals there would expect a bit of free spending.

Post: #213

Vegas has so many hidden fees for hotels that you think your booking for $50 and then get the $30 resort fee.

AVOID LOCATION: avoid FREEMONT street old vegas.

BEST LOCATION: Anything around VEER Towers and the NY NY Park. that side of strip has lots of outdoor seating and is great for people watching and approach after dark.

Best bet is a long term rental but ATTENTION: the highrises no longer can do airbnd , daily or monthly and have to be 6 month contract and strict

I use to rent a unit at Panorama towers or VEER for a month and you literally can just walk out your door and approach with "You should see the view from my highrise"

Monthly units use to run like $1500-1800 a month from Panorama, Martin and VEER
I used an agent Ashley at http://www.lasvegasrealestate.org/las-ve...ondos.html

You can see the highrises are awesome!!!!!!!

There is one development called Meridian that will still take month to month but 1 block off the strip.

But plain and simple if you are going to stay 6 month or a year .... get a rental at VEER, your front yard is the strip and your backyard is ARIA. Huge pool on roof.

Last time I did rental at Martin and lost a bit of mojo even from 1 block away. Ashley referred me to a guy name Dan who has a hot agent Shannon who helped me last time. (to bad she is married)

You will see all the high rises on their site here http://www.lasvegasrealestate.org/las-ve...ndos.html\
But if your not doing a long term 6 month lease or year at VEER or Panorama then go for the Meridian..... or just Booking.com

Vegas is not cheap --- Its just fun. and every man should spend at least a winter season in Vegas and live in VEER.
It use to be so easy .....but like all good things they either disappear or get more expensive. Now its 6 months and over $2K a month - (still cheaper than hotels)

I think the cheapest monthly rent on 6 month commitment is $2200 at VEER & the only reason I'm going to do it this season is because in the end its cheaper on game. See the POOL & Fitness center on roof on site. OHHHH!!!! take the front strip building. the back one not as solid. The front building has pool & fitness center with views that just lock it up. (back building can not use the front building amenities and vise versa)

also note there is great crossfit 1 mile away - Max Effort . you will get in crazy good shape
NY NY has dualing piano bar.
Monday night on season cosmo does movie by the pool

Recommend Nov - Easter (avoid spring break , just stupid)

in a nut shell : its cheaper to spend more on a great high rise condo with view right on the strip. hate the 6 month lease but I tried the monthly at others and VEER is just a PIMP paradise for players.

"You should see the view from my penthouse! well maybe not a penthouse but its right here on the 26th floor."

Rinse - Repeat

Post: #214

Is November a good month to visit vegas for pickup?

What are the best months to visit Vegas? Saw this on a website: The best time to visit Las Vegas is from March to May and from September to November. Does this check out?

How are things in Las Vegas post country concert terrorist attack? Are things back to normal or is it still scaring folks away?

Post: #215

(11-12-2017 10:51 PM)TIOT12 Wrote:  Is November a good month to visit vegas for pickup?

What are the best months to visit Vegas? Saw this on a website: The best time to visit Las Vegas is from March to May and from September to November. Does this check out?

From my experience, besides maybe Christmas or Thanksgiving, there is no time in when there will be not be girls in Vegas. I have NEVER run out of girls to approach in a good Vegas club. You literally can run laps around the club all night and you won't run out of chicks, and this is the case whether its July or January. Realize that no matter when you go, there will be women there.

My least favorite time to go is during peak weekends, specifically Labor Day, Memorial Day, and New Years (I've explained this in detail in an earlier post on this thread, but those weekends are extremely crowded and overrun with dudes). My favorite time to go is during the springtime (April and May) and during late summer weekends excluding LDW (August/September). April/May/Sept are my fav because the pools are open but it isn't quite as hot as in the peak of summer so you can actually go to the parties and have fun. Spending all day in the sun when it's 110 degrees outside is brutal.

Now, a few years back I drove up with a buddy of mine to bet on the NFL playoffs during a January weekend. It was pouring rain, and we didn't have high expectations for the clubs at all. Well, we went to Hakkasan, and it was poppin the fuck off. It definitely helped to have a 40th floor suite for 130 dollars (no chance can get that deal in summer) and to win the bets we made, and overall it was a great trip.

Anyway, the point is that there really isn't a bad time to go to Vegas. If you go to the right spots (think Omnia, Hakkasan, anything at the Wynn/Encore) and have solid game, you'll have a good time.

(11-12-2017 10:51 PM)TIOT12 Wrote:  How are things in Las Vegas post country concert terrorist attack? Are things back to normal or is it still scaring folks away?

I actually went the weekend after the shooting happened. We had planned the trip in advance and couldn't cancel. Once again, we had low expectations, but figured we will make the most of it and support the city while we're at it as well.

It ended up being the best weekend I've had in Vegas. Both clubs we went to had ratios that I had never seen before in those spots. From talking with girls, all of them had also booked trips in advance (bachelorette parties, etc) and couldn't change it. Meanwhile, the San Bernardino weekend warrior groups of dudes didn't make the drive up, thinking that it will be dead. Several places also had drink specials where the money for a specific drink went to charity, so it was a win-win.

Would be curious to hear info from the guys that actually live in Vegas, but my feeling is that it hasn't slowed down that much.

Post: #216

What time(s) of year do tourists from various countries normally come to Las Vegas? For example, when do people from South American and European countries typically visit Las Vegas during the year? Is it reasonable to assume that like right now one would expect to see more people from colder weather spots like Canada or Russia?

I also realize it is Vegas and will draw people year round but I also know that there are waves of tourists so was curious how those waves play out over the course of the year.

Post: #217

All year there's tourists from all over the world. Using tinder/bumble on the strip (depending how far you set the radius), probably 1/5 women are visiting from a foreign country.

Generally, more from Europe. A lot from Brazil in South America, then Japan from Asia.

Internationally, those from more socially liberal (not the same as politically liberal in the Anglosphere sense) countries seem to travel there. France, Netherlands, Scandinavian countries willl be more represented than Eastern Europe, but this could simply be a matter of economy.

Another thing that stood out, the amount of escorts on tinder, they're up front about it as well.

Post: #218

I did two Vegas trips in the last year and have some interesting intel based on some things that were discussed earlier in this thread.

Firstly, after reading and writing about the awards programs, I decided to double down on that strategy and really focus all my gambling and purchases on the casinos where I wanted to build up my points. So I decided that the Cosmopolitain Identity program gave good award and I wanted to get free nights at Caesar's. During that trip I made sure I spent a lot of time gambling in Caesar's Palace. When you are gambling they calculate how much you are betting by guessing your average bet and multiplying it by how long you play. guessing the number of hands/spins per hour. I play roulette a lot and the average bet is usually around $25 so if I play for a couple of hours I get decent points.

First Trip: Stayed at Encore & Cosmopolitan hotel. Used my points from previous trips to get 2 free nights at Cosmo and good room rates at the Encore. Then when I was gambling in the Wynn/Encore I asked the pit boss about comps so he looked at how much I was betting and he told me to make sure I charged everything to my room and then on my last day go to the Floor manager and ask for a comp. He said they would take off some of those charges. That turned out to be important, as you will see below.

I had some meetings on this trip so wasn't spending as much time going out as I would normally. One night I was checking out the bars in the lobby and at one point I ran across a tall 25yo blonde with a huge rack and a clingy silk shirt unbuttoned all the way to her waist with nothing on under. She was as close as you could be to naked as you could get and still be allowed to walk around. So when she approached me I said no thanks, I don't want to pay. So she says I just want to party, you don't have to pay. So I was like, OK let's get a drink. Sitting there in the bar, i notice a woman seated across just staring at her. I followed her eyes and see that one tit was completely uncovered for all the world to see, I help her cover that up and said let's go somewhere and she says she wants to come to my room and do stuff. I had a bottle of vodka on ice and some snacks and drinks. So I wasn't worried about raiding the minibar. But the combination of jetlag, some drinks and the big naked tit had made me leave my senses and think I could outscam the (probable) scammer. So she ends up in my room and wants to open a bottle of Veuve Cliquot from the minibar. I said no. And she is like you are cheap! I'm going to go out in the hallway and tell security you attacked me. So I said, OK, take it and go. So she pours a glass and goes out and walks down the hall with a bottle of champagne. Luckily it was only a half bottle, but it was still $70. That went on my room bill. At the end of my stay in the Encore I probably had $250-300 on my room bill and the woman managing the comps told me, OK I will comp you on all your room charges. So Encore covered my ass on the scheming bitch.

At one top club (which will remain nameless) I'm standing in line behind 4 guys when the bouncer lets them in, I stand there and wait and he says are you together? And one of the guys goes, yeah, come with us. So we go in and they turn out to have the biggest table right on the dance floor. One guy was paying and he must have spent $10,000 or more. Non-stop champagne, a full-bar on the table and club employees in charge of hunting down girls and bringing them to our table. When we sat down and talked he said, "you were alone and you looked sharp, so I said come with us". Never believe that dressing well doesn't pay off in spades. The most interesting girls at the table were a russian and a ukrainian and they were drinking hard and partying hard. I started making out with the Russian and she was grabbing my dick and stuff. But then she and her friend said they had to go to the bathroom and disappeared without coming back. After they left I bailed too. I didn't see many girls who looked like they were sticking around but maybe that worked itself out by the end of the night. Most of them just came to leech free drinks there was one group of 3 hotties that grabbed a drink then did their best to avoid talking to any of us. There was a group of girls at the table behind us and when I sat on the back of the sofa I was sitting next to this hardbody girl who told me it was her birthday. She was chatty so I tried to set her up with the guy who invited me in, but no go. She was about 28-30yo, at least a 9/10.

On the last day at the Cosmo, when I asked the pit boss about comps he sends me to talk to the floor manager in the VIP room of the casino. I was wearing a nice sport jacket so I was like, OK, let's see how this goes. But the guy was a real dick and said, if you want comps I need to see you playing $100/hand, plus you already have two free nights here, so I'm not going to give you anything. He said that with my level of play I would still get free room offers. So cosmo is much better than Wynn/Encore for room deals, but Wynn is much better for comps.

Second Trip: My focus on the Caesar's Palace awards program (Total Awards) worked. So by the time I planned the next trip, about four months later, I had 4 room nights comped in any of the Total Rewards program hotels (Planet Hollywood, Caesar's, etc) but when i used the online booking on their site it gave me six free nights. I booked 5 free nights at Caesar's because weekends weren't available. A night here is usually $250+ on weekdays and $350+ on weekends. This was a long trip so for the last few days I ended up staying somewhere else. I waited until the last minute to book because I was planning to use priceline. Not the name your price thing, but something similar where for the last minute deals they say, you get an unnamed 5* hotel on the NE Strip for $xxx. If you look at the hotels they have on the normal booking section and see what's still available at the last minute. You can figure out what the no name hotel is. I reserved a room at Planet Hollywood. Price was about 1/3 off when I did it. I think that hotel is a good mid-range deal. The crowd inside is young partiers, not full of site seers like Cosmopolitan/Caesar's and there are lots of restaurants, bars and even a live music place. For Planet Hollywood I got the deal from Priceline.

I met a guy while playing blackjack at Caesar's who told me that he gets flown out from Tennessee for free whenever he wants, free flights, rooms, food everything. He said, it's free, but believe me, you pay for it! Big guy probably 6'4", soft spoken, very friendly about 28-30. I don't know who he was but I just had a feeling he was a pro-football player. I felt like he was waiting for me to tell me I knew who he was.

At Caesar's there's a food court to the side of the gaming floors just before the passage to the big mall. That's a good cheap place to eat if you're solo and also to scope for pairs of girls.

Not much else to report on the Cheap Vegas Ideas except for I really avoided the clubs on the 2nd trip and tried the bars. Outside of the Omnia I picked up a Russian girl who was heading out of the hotel when I was walking in (I was staying there) and I took her to the bar. Having lived in EE for quite awhile I wasn't super impressed by her look, but a lot of people around were. When she went to the bathroom a working girl (I'm assuming) sitting next to us at the bar asked me if it was my wife. Also a young guy, about 21-23 tried to steal her off me. Just walked up to her when we were sitting at the bar drinking and said, I met you in LA last week, blah blah blah do you want to sit with me and my friends? She didn't want to talk to him or go with him but she told me she did meet him out one night in LA when she was there the week before. Later when I was going to order the 2nd drink she told me she was only 20yo and hoped they wouldn't ask her for her ID. I haven't had a girl tell me that since i was in college. She was leaving the next day so she hung around to talk and drink for awhile but wasn't down for anything. Still in contact with her, so maybe on some other trip west we'll meet. I also found a bar with live music in Bally's hotel. The band was really good and the crowd was really fun. I think it's a good place to start the night. Especially for solo guys.

Post: #219

I've gone to XS at Encore a few times this summer and wanted to toss out a few updated tips/observations. It is still one of the best clubs on the strip in my opinion and is worth going to, just with these caveats:

- Do not go in the guest list line. Maybe a few years ago being on the "guest list" was cool, but nowadays there are so many promoters out there and all it takes is one text to get on. There are hundreds of people in that line, it barely moves, and unless you're showing up before the club opens, as a guy you will have to pay $50-75 (the price of a ticket) depending on the night (the only people who it is worth it for is groups of only hot chicks, they get taken out of the line and brought in free). The worst part: You ONLY get outside access with guest list. While I enjoy the outside of XS for small periods, it is lame as fuck to be unable to go inside, especially in the summer heat.

- The pre-sale ticket line, on the other hand, is very quick, and gives you inside and outside access. I rolled in for a big-name DJ at 11:45 on a weekend and got inside within 10 minutes, the line was even shorter than the table line. Note that the entrance is in the front of the club now instead of on the side where it used to be. The signs in the casino are really confusing about this so just ask an attendant if you're lost. My strong recommendation is to just buy pre-sale tix on the club website.

- I always figured this was the case, but it is definitely possible to get tables for cheaper than retail, even as a group of guys. I casually asked several people a few weeks ago what their mins were, and it was amazing how much variability I heard. Plenty of people paying retail, but plenty getting 50%+ discounts. Just something to keep in mind, I don't have great advice for how to hack it, but my guess is these guys weren't bullshitting.

- I do NOT recommend getting a table here unless you have a really good plug like above (ie: if you can get on the dance floor for ~$3k min). Having a table outside just isn't worth it cause the energy level is so low, and the minimums on the inside tables are very high for what you get. Also, the club is so spacious and easy to navigate, and the bouncers can be almost too chill with letting random guys mob around, hang with tables, and even climb on the ledges. Just isn't worth it. You can meet plenty of girls w/o a table.

- A basic drink is ~$18, and a top-shelf drink is ~$20. So stick with the nice alcohol, it's worth the $2 in my opinion

Hope this helps!

Post: #220

I'm in Vegas as of yesterday night, staying beyond Thanksgiving (likely leaving next Sunday or Monday). If anyone is in town and wants to go out, hit me up. I'm doing daygame, nightgame/table game, and online.

Post: #221

^ Have fun man, definitely report back what you think of Vegas during this time of the year. I've always been really skeptical to go around the Holidays but perhaps its not as quiet as I would imagine.

Post: #222

(11-20-2018 02:33 PM)corsega Wrote:  I'm in Vegas as of yesterday night, staying beyond Thanksgiving (likely leaving next Sunday or Monday). If anyone is in town and wants to go out, hit me up. I'm doing daygame, nightgame/table game, and online.

Awesome... how is the traffic in Vegas for the weekend ?

Post: #223

I am also interested to here the report of Vegas during Thanksgiving week. I have gone to LV countless times (twice this year, three times last year) for business and pleasure. A few times I have gone the frugal route, adding a night or two on the back-end of a work trip, cashing my points in on my credit card for a room. Other times, I've been fortunate to be in the company of some high rollers.

When I was there in early October, a co-worker's very rich brother was having his birthday celebration. This was the weekend of the McGregor fight, and Drake was also having a concert that weekend. Needless to say, there were dozens of 9s around in the high end hotel casinos all weekend. I stayed at the Vdara (decent hotel 3.5/5 stars), however my co-worker and his brother's crew were all at the Encore towers. They had tables for Friday and Saturday night, and experiencing Omnia at the dancefloor table (25K min that night) gave me a different view on the Vegas nightlife.

It is absolutely not worth that kind of money, however we had a section full of 8s and 9s coming and going, drunk and high all night there. Most of the women I encountered who were DTF the most were foreign (UK, Russia, Sweeden, Brazil). Once you filter through the bottle rats and working girls, you find the ones who are there trying to live their best life, and live the phrase "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas".

Post: #224

Thanksgiving in Vegas: Part One

DAY 1

Arrived Monday evening and an Indian PUA I knew from one of the Facebook groups picked me up from the airport. He had a promoter connection at Jewel, so we went and picked the guy up. The deal is, because he's a promoter, he can get free tables and bottles at a bunch of clubs as long as he brings girls in. We were free to join him at the table as long as we could pull girls off the casino floors into the club, and give him about $20 in tip money. I ended up cold approaching a 4-set power walking to the club and they hooked immediately. I pitched the table and they were down. Girls from San Francisco in town for circus acrobat training. 4s-6s, but they got us in the door and on a table. Had a ton of fun the first night running "table game". Basically, the deal is you just chill back at the table and let your relative status and preselection do the work for you. I wasn't satisfied with this, though, and not being attracted to any of the girls at the table, I set out to cold approach other girls at the club. Quality was extremely low, but I managed to pull a 3-set of Chinese girls up to our table, only to be informed that the alcohol had run out. They got bored and left.

LESSON 1: Your table only gets you so far. Girls are distracted by shiny things. Game matters.

Late in the night my buddy proposed bouncing the most DTF circus girl to our place, but I wasn't interested, so we let her go. The club was running dry, so I ran lobby game and approached two Finnish nurses waiting for an Uber. Told them to cancel their Ubers and hang out with us instead. We paired off and soon we suggested a walk up the stairs and out the casino. Halfway through the walk the girls asked where we were going. We pitched them going back home to see our cat. They huddled and one of the girls said something to the other one to sabotage the pull. They got an Uber home and we called it a night.

Ended the night with two numbers, neither of which responded.

DAY 2

We hit up the gym and traded some Tinder tips. My buddy showed me some of the girls he has closed from Tinder and my jaw dropped. This guy is overweight, bald, and Indian, with a strong accent. He looks actually worse than many of the guys here complaining about not getting laid.

Fellas, this fucking Indian guy is closing girls HOTTER THAN YOU ARE. 6.5s to 7.5s. The occasional 8. And all because he has hustled to improve his Tinder photos, bio, text game, and date game. He also moved from St. Louis to Vegas to concentrate on improving at Game. The next time some Indian guy claims he can't get girls, I will pistol whip him with this guy's story.

LESSON 2: Super easy to do quality on Tinder if you have good photos, text game, and above all, LOCATION.

We headed out that night to Omnia. The quality was terrible (head it was the worst quality my friend had seen in 1.5 years in Vegas). Pretty much got nothing inside the club despite approaching every moderately attractive girl there. Ended up meeting some other PUAs including a couple guys I knew from back in San Francisco who had moved here. Headed out to run lobby game and grabbed a couple of IGs/numbers from 8s and a 9.5. Only one responded, then she went cold.

LESSON 3: Vegas is kind of dead during Thanksgiving - but it doesn't matter. Better than back home.

DAY 3

My friend was leaving on a flight to South Africa, so I hit up Light at Mandalay Bay with my new promoter friend from Night 1 to run table game again. Approached 2 girls in town from South Carolina off the floor and brought them in with us. Only one was borderline bangable, but I didn't spend much time on her early in the night because I wanted to work on cold approach. This was a tough night - volume was very low and all the hot girls were at tables. I approached probably 15 girls and got nothing out of it. Finally returned to the table and my promoter firend encouraged me to save the hotter South Carolina girl from this low-value promoter who was trying to mack her. I AMOGed the guy by bodyblocking him trying to grind on her and he disappeared. Her friend was into this other black promoter so we separated the girls a little bit and I ran some gamey stuff (I have no idea what I'm doing). Lots of teasing, she was qualifying herself, being fairly receptive to kino, etc. but I could tell she wasn't really that into me. At one point I pulled her hair and said "I bet you like that" and she responded in the affirmative.

I huddled with the other promoter and announced a plan to bounce the two girls to my pad. At 2 AM, the girls had to go to the bathroom so we went with them and then tried the pull when they came out. The girls weren't interested in pulling and gave a hard no on going to my place. I pulled my girl aside and started sexualizing the conversation, telling her what I wanted to do to her, but she wasn't having it (nor was she completely blowing me out). It was late and I had an early morning meeting so I ejected.

LESSON 4: I'm absolute trash at nightgame, even with a table. This week is all about getting better.

I'm here until Monday, so... to be continued!

Post: #225

^ Nice man, putting in work!

My guess is Friday and Saturday should be better since a lot of people are going to come up just for the weekend after doing family stuff on Weds/Thurs.

Just a reminder that girls are in Vegas to have fun, so you should really play up the fact that you are doing the same. When I approach groups of girls in Vegas, I keep the conversation really basic (where are you from, first time or repeat visitor, where are you staying, bachelorette party or birthday?, etc) and hope that within a few mins I get something to stick. For example, we're both from the same city, we're both staying at Wynn. Then, basically just keep the energy going and pull to your spot under the pretense of keeping the party going.

This is where logistics and having your spot stocked with booze is key. If you're staying in the same hotel as them (or the same hotel as the club), it makes life a lot easier in that sense.

When approaching solo girls, especially later in the night, just escalate quickly, find out her story (why she's alone!) to screen that she's a normal chick and not a hooker (I think this is less common than people tend to think, but they're out there), and pull to your spot.