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(06-06-2017 02:43 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  All terrorists are just DEVOUT MUSLIMS.

Some are. Quite often though they are genuinely lonely, disenfranchised types who drink, smoke etc—however believe doing the act will mean Allah will forgive them for their transgressions and grant them paradise due to dying for Islam.

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(06-06-2017 11:38 AM)void Wrote:  If you do not vote, you might as well vote for your most hated party. In our country there is no minimum participation limit.
That only leaves voting for a far-right party, for something to change.

Not with the British first past the post system. I live in a heavily Tory constituency so my vote makes no difference whatsoever.

Anyhow... back to terrorists:

Post: #353

Article from 2015, but it's relevant today. The UK currently has no death penalty:

'Bring back hanging for ISIS' says son of UK's last death penalty victim

Quote:Mark Price was a three-year-old boy when his father, Peter Allen, 21, was hanged in 1964.

He and his baby brother Richard had actually been brought along in the getaway car by Allen and his partner in crime Gwynne Evans, 26, when they went to a village in Cumbria to rob van driver John West.

West, 53, was stabbed to death after refusing to hand over money and Allen was later hanged at Walton prison in Liverpool.

The death penalty was abolished in Britain the following year.

But Mr Price, who is now 54, said he believes the death penalty needs to be brought back for Islamist extremists like the killers of soldier Lee Rigby.

Mr Price was brought up by his mother Mary and his stepfather Billy and he said: "My mother brought me up to know that violence is never the answer.

"But I actually believe in the death penalty and that should be brought back in certain circumstances where there is irrevocable proof."

He said some cases, like the Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Sutcliffe, Moors Murderer Ian Brady and Soham child killer Ian Huntley, were so beyond doubt that they should have been executed, rather than "languishing" in jail.

Mr Price also referred to radicalised murderer Michael Adebolajo, who killed Fusilier Lee Rigby in broad daylight in 2013.

He added: "You've got the guys who killed the squaddie Lee Rigby in London in front of everybody hacked the guy to death – why are they languishing in prison?

"There's no question of guilt there. They took a life for no other reason than religion. That's no reason to take a life.

"There are no real reasons to take a life but I believe if you take a life in those circumstances, you forfeit your own," he added.

Mr Price, himself a former soldier, said: "If you had asked me 20 years ago I would have said no, don't bring it back. But I'm a lot older now and when you see someone just murder someone for the hell of it and they go away and get their 25 years in jail.

"But then they do about 15 and they're let out of prison – what right do they have to a life?"

Speaking only a month after the Paris attacks, in which 130 people died at the hands of ISIS terrorists, he said: "I believe the death penalty would make people think twice."

Mr Price said: "Peter Allen is my father. Yes, he did something wrong and he was punished for it. But he's still my father."

A year after Allen's death Labour MP Sydney Silverman introduced a Private Member's Bill to suspend the death penalty, which was passed by MPs.

Ironically Brady and Myra Hindley had murdered their last victim only a month before but by the time they came for trial the maximum sentence available to the judge was a life sentence.

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(06-05-2017 03:58 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  I was just round the corner when this happened. Several of my friends were in that restaurant in the clip which armed police evacuated. Even having been evacuated at gun point, their evening ruined, these people were on Facebook spouting the #lovetrumpshate line. I was at one of my best mates' wedding, and this put quite a significant dampener on the whole affair. A lot of people just wanted to get home once the news broke.

I don't spend that much time in London at the moment, and even less around that part of the city. It is striking how effete the majority of fighting age men in that area are. I don't know that these men, for the most part, are capable of feeling the aggression that would let them form any kind of non-PC thought.

I used to box in the area when I was younger, and the change I noted in the demographic is quite extraordinary. 10 years ago it was a relatively intimidating place. When I used to come down for a match up, it was a much more hostile and forbidding place, due largely to the menace of the local fauna. These days even the 'tough guys' are pop-punk for the most part.

I was in London recently. I was particularly struck at how effeminate the men are there. And I very recently lived in NYC so I have a good basis for comparison. The men there seemed so ghey it was almost surreal. Additionally, there seemed to be a lot of open lesbian couples about. It was as if they had given up on the men entirely. Way way more than what I've seen in NYC or other European cities.

On the bright side, if you were a straight masculine man in NYC who wasn't a total lout, I bet you could do very well with the straight chicks.

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(06-06-2017 01:55 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Article from 2015, but it's relevant today. The UK currently has no death penalty:

'Bring back hanging for ISIS' says son of UK's last death penalty victim

Would capital punishment really be effective for a suicide cult that craves attention?

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(06-06-2017 03:53 PM)ElFlaco Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:55 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Article from 2015, but it's relevant today. The UK currently has no death penalty:

'Bring back hanging for ISIS' says son of UK's last death penalty victim

Would capital punishment really be effective for a suicide cult that craves attention?

Do they still get their toddler sex slaves in paradise if they're executed? What if you incorporated pork products in some way?

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EDIT: @Budoslavic, stop copying me before I can click 'post'.

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(06-06-2017 04:02 PM)iop890 Wrote:  EDIT: @Budoslavic, stop copying me before I can click 'post'.
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Redpillage shared it in the Europe Migrant thread.

Sadiq Khan being elected is of course a symptom. A Muslim mayor will always cuck for Islam first, roll out the ISIS flag when the Caliphate beheads the Queen - that is how things roll.

I am really curious to see how this shit will end.

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(06-06-2017 03:53 PM)ElFlaco Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:55 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Article from 2015, but it's relevant today. The UK currently has no death penalty:

'Bring back hanging for ISIS' says son of UK's last death penalty victim

Would capital punishment really be effective for a suicide cult that craves attention?

I'd rather these guys get executed than spend time in jail.

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"...choose resolve over fear...". Go back into the woods, HRC.

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...says the witch-cunt who took in hundreds of millions from the Sauds and Qatar, among the biggest Islamic terrorist sponsors on the planet.

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(06-06-2017 06:31 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  "...choose resolve over fear...". Go back into the woods, HRC.

Tell that to the Jews when someone crank calls a Jewish center and (((they))) all run around with (((their))) hair on fire about the coming Shoah .

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Australian nurse killed in London attack died running to help victims

Quote:The statement was sent out by Metropolitan Police on Tuesday evening on behalf of the family of 28-year-old Loxton woman Kirsty Boden.

“Kirsty was loved and adored by her family, friends and boyfriend," the statement reads.

"She was the most outgoing, kind and generous person who loved to help people.

"Helping people was what she loved to do in her job as a nurse and in her daily life.

“As she ran towards danger, in an effort to help people on the bridge, Kirsty sadly lost her life.

We are so proud of Kirsty’s brave actions which demonstrate how selfless, caring and heroic she was, not only on that night, but throughout all of her life.

"Kirsty – we love you and we will miss you dearly.

“We will not be making any further comments on this tragedy and ask everyone, especially the media, to give us the privacy we need to grieve away from the public eye.”

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^Brave woman. RIP

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The muslim talking about the conspiracy to lionise Choudry hardens my resolve that all focus and vengeance be placed on the traitors in power and the presstitute whores pumping out fake news 24 hours a day.

Nothing is off the table in regards to dealing with these snakes! Because of them thousands if not millions are consigned to inevitable war and bloodshed. They are living on borrowed time and if there's a God he will judge them harshly.

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My brother told me that one of his coworkers arrived at the scene of the terrorist attack a few minutes after it happened. She was walking down the street towards London Bridge station, and medic yelled at "get the fuck in the bus" and she got in. As the bus drove off she saw the people who had been run over lying in the road. She was really shook up by the whole thing and took Monday off work.

(06-06-2017 11:19 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The muslim talking about the conspiracy to lionise Choudry hardens my resolve that all focus and vengeance be placed on the traitors in power and the presstitute whores pumping out fake news 24 hours a day.

Nothing is off the table in regards to dealing with these snakes! Because of them thousands if not millions are consigned to inevitable war and bloodshed. They are living on borrowed time and if there's a God he will judge them harshly.

Anjum Choudary and his group were always in the media because they "gave good interview" and he fit the stereotype of "lunatic bearded Muslim". He was always guaranteed to make remarks which would piss of the average The media thrives on controversy and ratings.

One of his stunts was promoting this meeting on the 2nd Anniversary of 9/11. He also called the 19 terrorists "The Magnificent 19".



In reality he initially had a few hundred followers, but over time it has grown to a few thousand due to TV and the internet.

I used to work in Luton and see his group sometimes handing out leaflets in the town centre. One of Pakistanis that I used to work with told me that Anjem's crew would have got the fuck kicked out of them if they tried their shit near his mosque. The leaflets said bullshit like accept Islam because Mohammed was forecasted in both the Bible and the Hindu scriptures.

Hate preacher Anjem Choudary - who is accused of grooming London Bridge terrorists - will be free by end of next year

Quote:Notorious hate preacher Anjem Choudary could be released by the end of next year, having served less than half of his sentence, it has emerged.

Choudary was jailed last September for five-and-a-half years after he was convicted of inviting support for a proscribed organisation while he lived on taxpayer handouts.

Due to the time he spent on remand awaiting sentence – almost five months – Choudary could be back spreading hate as soon as December 2018 and no later than the end of January 2019.

The revelation could be problematic for the security services, who have disclosed they are currently handling 500 active investigations.

The extremist, who founded the group al-Muhajiroun, is believed to have inspired the 7/7 bombers and has been linked to the Westminster attacker Khalid Masood.

It is also thought that Choudary aided 110 British jihadists to travel to Syria in order to fight for Islamic State.

Despite being known to spread hate, Choudary was given a platform to speak by the BBC and controversially appeared on Newsnight in 2013.

Then, he refused to condemn Michael Adebolajo after he killed fusilier Lee Rigby.

Hannah Stuart, author of Islamist Terrorism, a definitive analysis of UK attacks and offences, said his release would be a 'massive headache'.

She told The Telegraph: 'When Theresa May talks about longer sentences for terrorists, she will have had in mind extremists like Choudary who are accused of such offences as disseminating terrorist material and glorifying terrorism.'

Despite his ideas spawning a generation of home-grown terrorists and enraging the British public, Choudary had previously thwarted authorities by managing to stay on the right side of the law.

But a pledge of allegiance posted online provided a turning point for police who swooped to arrest British-born Choudary and his deputy Mohammed Mizanur Rahman.

Rahman, who was described as a 'hothead' by the judge, was also given a sentence of five years and six months.

The judge said both men were 'dangerous' and had shown no remorse for what they had done.

Their trial heard Choudary swore an oath of allegiance to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in an East London pub after the so-called 'caliphate' was declared in the Middle East.

He and his deputy then pressed upon Muslims their supposed obligation to 'make hijrah', meaning to travel to ISIS-occupied lands, the court heard.

Choudary rose to notoriety as the mouthpiece of Omar Bakri Mohammed - a Syrian extremist who founded the banned extremist group al-Muhajiroun (ALM).

Choudary courted publicity by voicing controversial views on Sharia law, while building up a following of thousands through social media, demonstrations and lectures around the world.

In one speech in March 2013, Choudary, from Ilford, north-east London, set out his ambitions for the Muslim faith to 'dominate the whole world'.

He said: 'Next time when your child is at school and the teacher says, "What do you want when you grow up? What is your ambition?", they should say,"To dominate the whole world by Islam, including Britain - that is my ambition".'

His supporters included Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale, the murderers of Fusilier Lee Rigby, and suspected ISIS executioner Siddhartha Dhar.

Shortly after the announcement of the caliphate, Choudary held a meeting with his closest aides at a curry house in Mile End Road in east London to discuss it.

Before accepting it was legitimate, he also consulted his 'spiritual guide', Bakri Mohammed, currently in jail in Lebanon, and Mohammed Fachry, the head of ALM in Indonesia.

On July 7, 2014, the trio's names appeared alongside Rahman's on the oath posted on the internet, which stated the Muhajiroun had 'affirmed' the legitimacy of the 'proclaimed Islamic Caliphate State'.

The defendants followed up by posting on YouTube a series of lectures on the caliphate, which Choudary promoted to more than 32,000 Twitter followers.

The married father-of-five denied encouraging his followers to back the terror group and insisted the oath had been made without his knowledge.

He said of the pledge: 'It is completely unnecessary. For the rest of the Muslims it is obedience from the heart.'

Despite protesting his innocence, he continued to express extreme views, refusing to denounce the execution of journalist James Foley by so-called Jihadi John, aka Mohammed Emwazi, in Syria in 2014.

He told the jury: 'If you took an objective view, there are circumstances where someone could be punished.'

Following the convictions, Commander Dean Haydon, head of Scotland Yard's counter-terrorism command, said: 'These men have stayed just within the law for many years.

'But there is no-one within the counter-terrorism world that has any doubts of the influence that they have had, the hate they have spread and the people that they have encouraged to join terrorist organisations.'

Commander Haydon added: 'Over and over again we have seen people on trial for the most serious offences who have attended lectures or speeches given by these men.

'The oath of allegiance was a turning point for the police - at last we had the evidence that they had stepped over the line and we could prove they supported Isis.'

Choudary's conviction was also welcomed by leading British Muslims, who condemned his 'evil' and 'hateful' views.

After his conviction, Choudary's Twitter account was removed by the social media giant.

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(06-06-2017 04:02 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

These people just can't keep their mouths shut. They have all sorts of evil and shady dealings in their past, and yet they still can't help but run their mouth about all sorts of virtuous bullshit.

I hope Trump lights him up hard for this, after all the President has an insane knack for getting things right, before people even know its a thing.

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I have no trouble believing that some journalists put things out of context when it fist their narrative, but Choudary was not saying anything untrue. In fact critics who know the Quran and the teachings of Islam well actually found Choudary refreshing. The reason why it was refreshing, because he said exactly what many Muslims speak in private.

That is why he grew - anyone could get confirmation for everything he said online. But of course the globalists run a double strategy of stifling free speech for critics of Islam while equally supporting true Devout Muslims as Mohammed would have wanted them to be - terrorists, Jihadis, supporters of violent Jihad.

Choudary was just ahead of his time.

Funny stuff - the hambeast woman who married the Moroccan and has a child with him:


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3738576/wi...-her-gay/#

It is the usual Tunisian love rat phenomenon where more attractive North Africans marry fat, ugly or old women for their right to stay. At least she did not convert and left him as he wanted their daughter to be brought up Muslim.

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As much as one might admire the nurse for her desire to help - this should have waited for the attack to end.

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One of the first victims was a Canadian woman who was likely a liberal who helped in homeless shelters. I guess it came as a surprise that the Religion of Peace suddenly was not as peaceful as she thought it would be.




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Funny vid by Louder with Crowder where he plays William Wallace in our times.





Katy Perry - the foreign policy expert with the LOVE ONE ANOTHER strategy on Islamic terror.

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Anjem Choudhary and his crew were allowed to gather in public and the British police did nothing:



Watch how the Indian police deal with Muslim protesters:

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(06-07-2017 01:35 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  I have no trouble believing that some journalists put things out of context when it fist their narrative, but Choudary was not saying anything untrue. In fact critics who know the Quran and the teachings of Islam well actually found Choudary refreshing. The reason why it was refreshing, because he said exactly what many Muslims speak in private.

What Choudary was saying stood in stark contrast with the views of the vast majority of muslims in the UK and, more broadly, the world. He was not welcomed in the vast majority of mosques. He was opposed by the vast majority of relevant religious leaders. You have video evidence of this opposition provided above.

I don't doubt that some muslims found Choudhary refreshing. My point is that they were in the vast minority. Most muslims disagreed with him and still do. He was not a widely accepted figure, and he certainly wasn't the "leader of islam in the UK" that the media branded him to be.

When men like Choudhary, his followers, and the results they create are used to create a narrative that inevitably leads to "ban islam and ban muslims" (a narrative which has taken a firm hold in this particular forum as well), it is imperative that the fact that the vast majority of muslims opposed and did not welcome Choudhary be brought up.

At the end of the day, Choudhary, his people, and their points of view are blown out of proportion to create a narrative that is beneficial to some (ex: media who thrive off of controversy) and harmful to many (the vast majority of muslims whose far less controversial points of view simply don't make for good TV). This is done blatantly and intentionally.

All you're doing here by passively writing this dynamic off and implying that Choudhary is actually not that controversial or far beyond the mainstream in islam (when he very clearly is not) is going right along with that narrative and its intended aims, which are to facilitate more controversy and division.