Post: #9751

Good points. It's been a long time since I had anything over an 8. I'll kick back, tease her lightly, and see what happens.

Post: #9752

(04-27-2017 11:51 AM)serendickitous Wrote:  My strategy:

- Tickle her brain (I'm nearly done with an MA in philosophy)

Don't ever attempt this ever. This thread explains why.

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Post: #9753

Good thread. Thank you.

Post: #9754

Girl ghosted out on me a week ago and then hit me up out of the blue via text, never bet her before. An OKC prospect I had forgot.

Her: "hey what are you doing tonight" - She wants the D
Me: "making dinner, light drinking, watching movies" - come get the D, hoe
Her: "K. I might invite myself over later"
Me: "roll through, [address]"

She got her own cab and got over to my house. I met her out front of my apartment and opened the cab door, hugged her hello, lead her by the hand to my house. She had already had a little bit to drink but she wasn't sloppy drunk or anything like that but fuck so had I at this point. I keep teasing her about being a spoiled rich girl and she's getting offended but being sweet about it at the same time. Everything is going well. She's staring me right in the face the whole time we're talking and will not break eye contact with me. After about 20m I feel like it's a shit test of sorts (or she really wants the dick), either way I start imposing more dominant body language by putting a foot on either side of her where she's sitting and tilting my head a little bit down at her from above. Subtle, but I was a little drunk who knows what it atually looked like. She ended up looking away after a while but maintained really strong eye contact throughout the whole night.

We start making out. I push her off a few times to pour another drink or to use the bathroom (trying to get her to chase). When I come back from the bathroom she says "How come you aren't giving me tongue" with a silly little sad look on her face. I just tell her "damn girl, why don't we just take it slow". And go to kiss her again with a fuckload of tongue lol. Now for the LMR

She says "we aren't having sex tonight". I don't even answer her I just stare at her. She says "what?". I tell her I'm not that easy, I'm not a slut, I just don't sleep with everyone and continue making out before she can retort. That same situation plays out about 3-4 more times with the whole "i'm not having sex with you" routine and me almost mockingly telling her I'm not a hoe, I don't give it away for free, etc etc. I haven't grabbed her anywhere near the pussy or anything like that I'm trying to play it cool.

Eventually we end up in bed to "watch a movie" and she starts grabbing my dick. I just ask her "You want my dick" she says "do you have..." I complete her sentence "a condom, yes". Ended up taking it off and blowing in her after she said she had an IUD. I gotta stop doing that, i'm fucking retarded. But hey if she gets pregnant her family is rich so who knows I should probably stop drinking and fucking because I always end up going in raw and wanting to bust inside. Gotta get checked

After sex was weird though I woke up at 4AM a little hungover and fucked her some more and she cut me off about 15m in saying she was getting really anxious and i fucked her too hard last time and it was sore. She went out to smoke, i gave her a xanax and passed back out. Ended up driving her home around 5:30 AM because she said she really needed to get home and take her meds (yiiiikes). Car ride was a little bit awkward because I made kind of a big deal about her not even helping me get off the 2nd time but I managed to push through it with some alright conversation. Make-out goodbye, Her "goodbye" was looking me in the eyes and say "i'll see you later". I told her to shoot me a text. Sent her a safety text when I got home.

No reply to the safety text, sent another at 1PM today asking if she got to sleep alright. No reply. My guess is she feels like a little bit of a slut and I didn't make sex okay enough for her and didn't sooth the hamster like I should have. So she's feeling a little guilty for letting a stranger blow inside of her. We did end up getting a little drunk and I did feed her a xanax at the end of the night to calm her nerves so I'm hoping this doesn't come back on me at all. I think I'll be fine though.

Gotta stop getting drunk and nutting in girls, I'm fucking stupid.

Post: #9755

Sounds like she just wanted a ONS maybe. You texted her after ball is in her court. Don't sweat it.

Also, everyone has their own risk levels for blowing inside. If she told me she had an IUD I'd be bustin' all kinds of nuts in there with reckless abandon.

Post: #9756

(04-27-2017 11:51 AM)serendickitous Wrote:  Got a date with an Instagram model. Matched on Bumble. 26, 9/9. We have strongly similar backgrounds. She seems like a good family girl. Told me she isn't looking for anything specific, is too busy to date much, so is trying Bumble. (My profile specifies much the same -- that I'm busy and if they are flexible, we'll get along.)

My strategy:
- Frame: strong, silent, intellectual, intriguing
- Tickle her brain (I'm nearly done with an MA in philosophy)
- Don't compliment her looks or IG spread

This girl will get a match every time she swipes right. I don't want to fuck this up. Anyone have experience with these amateur model girls?

She's not a model unless she's actually signed with an agency.

Philosophy doesn't tickle pussy, adrenaline and fun things do.

Post: #9757

Well, that's why I said "Instagram model," which refers to girls who are amateur and unsigned. Agency models are on Instagram as well, but no one would refer to them that way.

Post: #9758

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Philosophy doesn't tickle pussy, adrenaline and fun things do.
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But you can. You really can play the teacher role with artsy girls and get that pvssy tingling. You have to talk about the subject making her look like a little child that is not really grasping it but it's ok because you know she's like that. You would be surprised at how much this is used in academic circles, hypergamy is real there too.

Post: #9759

I just got approached by a 7 at the gym. And I think I blew it. God damn it.

I'm at the gym doing cardio, headphones on just doing my thing. This chick gets on the stairmaster next to me. In my periphery I can see her looking in my direction several times during 15 minutes.

Then she gets on the bike next to me.

After a few minutes she looks at me and says "Damn you're killing it!" while indicating the digital dashboard on my bike. I'm at 170 pulse with moderately high gear on, nothing special IMO.

I take my headphones off and blurt out "Seriously? You think so?"



Her: "Yeah! Do you compete? We're really disciplined to be here on a Friday evening."

Me/Her: *fluff talk which doesn't really take it anywhere near a proper close and I can feel the moment slipping away*

End it with me saying "It's gonna be interesting to walk home after this right" (while looking at her legs pumping away at the pedals)

Her: *laughs and put her headphones in*

As I walk out the door all possible conversational threads and comebacks open up before me. Like a slap in the face.



My only saving grace is that I may have come off a bit disinterested, also OK body language. But that's being optimistic.

Let's see what happens next time she's there. Got totally thrown off my game.

But shit, at least she opened me. Never had a pretty chick approach me day time like that before. Good feeling!

Post: #9760

Happens to the best of us. As men we're SO unused to being opened by women that by the time it clicks it can be too late.

I know for a fact this has happened to me a couple times. Especially if you're a gym rat and you actually have an impressive physique you will get opened by men and women and it can be hard to tell sometimes even when it's in your face.

Shuffle it away for next time and take it as a lesson.

Post: #9761

Yeah serious fitness girls must be a proper niche, where they will respect and be attracted to your display of strength or ability, in a way that normal girls wouldn't necessarily.

If they're mainly attracted to a certain type of guy, there probably aren't too many of them around so if you fall into that box, they may well just go direct and open you.

My niche is slightly different in martial arts but it must work the same.

I do mma and boxing and tonight just come from a rolling session where there were two girls.

One is a multiple world champion muaythai fighter and there is always a lot of sexual tension between us.
I pay her for private pad work sessions leading up to my fights she's that good.
She gets mad respect around the gym but is always like a giggly little girl around me, coiling up, all shy smiles if I poke or touch her.

She is with someone and has a kid so I don't push it but it's fun to flirt.

First time I ever rolled with her tonight and it was great, throwing her around and just dominating her for fun.
Eye contact while im in her guard said it all.

The other girl has been coaching the first girl and is a brown belt ju jitsu from a top London gym.

I was about to roll again with the first girl when she said to the brown belt 'why don't you have a go with him'

Again 60+kg woman v 84kg man meant I could have fun with her and she was loving it. Looking back at the first girl saying "ooh he's strong isn't he! I like him throwing me around!"

Grinding herself onto me in her guard saying "I think I'll just stay here, I'm having a good time!"

At one point she had her knee jammed in my nuts and when I'd got the mount and we parted to restart, she rolled into her back, opened her legs wide, put both hands over her pussy and said laughing 'now you can get me back, but go easy!'

It's really fucking a turn on iv got to say, it's primal!

When im fucking a girl I love going really rough but I always take the edge off, so it's never quite 'violent'.

But this girl loved the violence.
she was going full power trying to get a submission on me and I was just using my strength to wrestle and literally flip, spin and throw her around, laying on her with full chest pressure, pinning her, sliding round onto her back and trying with all my strength to slide a choke in deeper while she's breathing heavy with her jaw jutted and pulling on my arm, faces next to each other, her hair in my mouth and all the while rolling over and over. Like I say, when u can let go and go all in like this it's fuckin primal.

When I tapped her she gets up onto all fours, sexily pads away slinking her tight arse at me and looking over her shoulder, sweaty, heavy sexual breathing and looking at me right in the eye with pure lust!

She says "Daayym, your strooong" and calls over to the first girl and says 'now I know why you gave him to me' and they laugh.

My point in saying all this though is that these girls, like your fitness girl and probably any number of other types, are a niche. These ones are hard nosed tough women attracted to a certain type of guy and in this arena, my ability and experience make me one the top guys they come across so I don't even need to use my game! (I do though lol)

But in a club, or any other situation I'd just be another guy for most women, without that in-built advantage.

Post: #9762

(04-28-2017 01:02 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  *snip*

Yeah maybe you blew it but whatever - I hate having to be on my game when working out personally. When I'm at the gym I just want to focus on lifting weight and nothing else. I try not to think of the gym as a venue where picking up women is on the table. I try to treat it like it's my workplace. I'm not there to ogle bitches and spit game, and if a female approaches me I'm going to try and not have it in my head that I could have sex with her.

Post: #9763

This post is a little of a rant, I need to share what I have been thinking, any comments will be appreciated.

I'm bored. For the last month I have lived in a sea of pleasure, without putting in much effort into making things better. I just meet these two girls twice a week, have dinner with them, fuck them good, go to sleep and to class the next day. Barely no approaching, certainly no worthwhile approach where I tried to escalate, my fitness is remaining the same, at least I'm advancing with the guitar.

Last time I was with shy girl we were having dinner when I became aware of how she wasn't wearing an specific item I told her to wear. I remembered Leonard's post about training dogs and proceed to show disinterest whilst still having casual chat, it worked like a charm. When we were in my bedroom and she was all tied up she said she loved me. Well, the rope is magical like that. But something died inside me after hearing those words, knowing that I have her well tied up (metaphorically, not only literally) made me lose a lot of my interest. Same thing happened yesterday with first girl. We were taking a walk, when she “casually” referred to me as her boyfriend, whilst making plans for the summer. All fine, I like trips with cute girls.

I guess I'm getting to know myself better, and I'm discovering that I like the excitement of making a new girl mine, but once that's done...I become bored. I like them, they are sweet to me, shy girl's body gets me going like nothing has yet, but still...I want new ones. I guess I've been postponing this as long as I could because I know that chasing new prey will make these ones fall off rotation sooner or later, and I don't want to have to hurt them. Then again, they maybe wouldn't give a fuck, but still, I would feel guilty. But know it's time to confront this too. I will hit the grounds again.

One last thing, any good resources or advice about managing multiple LTRs?

Post: #9764

(04-29-2017 11:40 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  This post is a little of a rant, I need to share what I have been thinking, any comments will be appreciated.

I'm bored. For the last month I have lived in a sea of pleasure, without putting in much effort into making things better. I just meet these two girls twice a week, have dinner with them, fuck them good, go to sleep and to class the next day. Barely no approaching, certainly no worthwhile approach where I tried to escalate, my fitness is remaining the same, at least I'm advancing with the guitar.

Last time I was with shy girl we were having dinner when I became aware of how she wasn't wearing an specific item I told her to wear. I remembered Leonard's post about training dogs and proceed to show disinterest whilst still having casual chat, it worked like a charm. When we were in my bedroom and she was all tied up she said she loved me. Well, the rope is magical like that. But something died inside me after hearing those words, knowing that I have her well tied up (metaphorically, not only literally) made me lose a lot of my interest. Same thing happened yesterday with first girl. We were taking a walk, when she “casually” referred to me as her boyfriend, whilst making plans for the summer. All fine, I like trips with cute girls.

I guess I'm getting to know myself better, and I'm discovering that I like the excitement of making a new girl mine, but once that's done...I become bored. I like them, they are sweet to me, shy girl's body gets me going like nothing has yet, but still...I want new ones. I guess I've been postponing this as long as I could because I know that chasing new prey will make these ones fall off rotation sooner or later, and I don't want to have to hurt them. Then again, they maybe wouldn't give a fuck, but still, I would feel guilty. But know it's time to confront this too. I will hit the grounds again.

Sounds like you need a new campaign.

http://www.rooshv.com/what-is-your-campaign

Specifically, a business.

Quote:One last thing, any good resources or advice about managing multiple LTRs?

Experience.

Every PUA blog has a different take on juggling chicks. It's up to how you frame it, who you are, how much you tell them, and how you manage things.

Here's some of my favorites.

http://yareallyarchive.com/2012/6/#comme...ste-347499

https://www.goodlookingloser.com/laid/in...ck-buddies

https://www.goodlookingloser.com/laid/in...-necessary

Cover your tracks, don't be dumb, be ready to cut your losses, and you'll be fine.

Post: #9765

(04-28-2017 01:02 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Then she gets on the bike next to me.

After a few minutes she looks at me and says "Damn you're killing it!" while indicating the digital dashboard on my bike.

Haha. I think she's reading this forum. That's exactly a line someone suggested to use while approaching girls at the gym.

Post: #9766

^^^^^^^^^^

Found it. It was Redbeard.

/thread-24128...pid1356291

Post: #9767

I tend to agree with Gen. Stalin's views regarding making plays at the gym. I mean, sure, one can conjure up opportunities throughout a wealth of scenes, but training is serious business that requires focus. If something comes about, great, but we're there for one reason.

Post: #9768

(04-29-2017 02:30 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  I tend to agree with Gen. Stalin's views regarding making plays at the gym. I mean, sure, one can conjure up opportunities throughout a wealth of scenes, but training is serious business that requires focus. If something comes about, great, but we're there for one reason.

Part of it is that I just hate the distraction. I think Tuth made a post about it one time, something about self-imposed approach anxiety: feeling an obligation that you could/should be gaming these half-naked yoga pants broads as they saunter around the gym. This is one of the reasons why I go to a dingy warehouse gym. Not a whole ton of women that go there, and half the ones that do are not women you want to bang...

Post: #9769

(04-29-2017 01:59 PM)Jagnum Wrote:  

(04-28-2017 01:02 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Then she gets on the bike next to me.

After a few minutes she looks at me and says "Damn you're killing it!" while indicating the digital dashboard on my bike.

Haha. I think she's reading this forum. That's exactly a line someone suggested to use while approaching girls at the gym.

(04-29-2017 02:00 PM)Jagnum Wrote:  ^^^^^^^^^^

Found it. It was Redbeard.

/thread-24128...pid1356291

This makes me happy.

I haven't secured "the gym bang" yet. I got a date with one and we made out, but didn't follow through.

I'll continue to do gym game. If you ever complain about your sex life but also put constraints on yourself like, "I'm too focused in the gym," you have no excuse. What if we made the same excuse everywhere?

"I'm too busy with my bros at the club to mack."
"I'm too focused on this podcast to approach on the subway."

I get it...I have times I don't want to waste time and to lift. FFS though I'm at the gym enough that I can spare 10 minutes to talk to a chick. I usually wait until I'm bored doing accessories or even when I'm done. If you're worried about the time it's an actual "false time constraint."

"This was fun talking, but I have to...you know...lift. I can't stand around talking to girls all day. We should hang out sometime..."

Post: #9770

What's your take on girls aggressively kissing you in public on a date?

Happened to me recently and I did not like it.

I was having a drink with a girl I have slept with a couple of times previously, she's a bit crazy and gets pissed off over stupid shit and disappears for a month or two between meets.

I don't like PDA anyway, even when I was married let alone with a girl I'm just seeing.

But we're sitting there chatting, in an outdoor seating area surrounded by other people, have not kissed all evening apart from a peck when I first greeted her and were now starting to get a bit drunk.

As she gets up and comes past me to go to the bar, she suddenly leans down grabs my head in both hands and awkwardly kisses me hard on the mouth, no tongue, just like a prolonged, forced peck on the lips.

I play it cool and don't say anything because she only kissed me after all but I didn't like it. it's unnecessary in a lit area in front of everyone and I just felt a bit disrespected that she felt she could grab my head like that.

She lunged over and tried it again a bit later and I stopped her saying "don't do that, I don't like it"

She acted all huffy saying "well fuck ya then I won't bother anymore, I'm only kissing you....you're so cold, blah blah blah"

We move past it and had a good night as usual but it's stuck in my mind as something that girls don't usually do but something I definitely didn't like.

Would it bother you?

Post: #9771

Was she below your standards? Was she pretty? Did you actually like her as a person or just a hole to fuck? Are you seeing another girl that you're more attached to?

I kiss girls in public if they are pretty enough and haven't offended me by being dumb bitches or telling me they have slept with half the town. Sometimes they don't like it, but I do it anyway. I'm happy to be seen macking on a cute girl in public especially if it's somewhere I frequent as it seems my status goes up.

Whatever the case it's all good, you have your boundaries and if it feels bad it feels bad. You're gonna have a hard time explaining you don't like PDA to a girl who does because she clearly likes you enough to show it in public and it will come off like you dont. I completely understand being turned off by a girl who is being aggressive though, boner killer

Post: #9772

Yeah she's pretty and 10 years younger than me so it wasn't that I was embarrassed to be seen kissing her.

She is a bit low class though, or rough as we call them, single mum and I would never have a relationship with her.

Now you mention it, I think it was just more that she acted like the man, being aggressive by kissing me while I couldn't do much but sit there for a few seconds like a little boy.

Definitely a turn off!

Post: #9773

^^^Think bigger picture Medium & Eugenics

It's obvious see she sees Medium as her man, she's marking her territory.

You aren't about that life so she was right in saying "you're so cold" - because your body language states that you aren't really together.

Your mistake is not nexting her after you realized she's a bit crazy and gets pissed over stupid little shit, then ghosts a month or two.

It isn't worth the headache of managing a bitch like that.

A few options:

-Invite only to your place to fuck or a very mellow and non populated venue.

-Explain to her in hamster terms the following, "I'm not a big fan of PDA, I'm more of a.....in the bedroom kind of guy (said with a smirk/grin/smile)"

"It's means more when it's private, and not for everyone to see" Something along those lines.

Even better commenting on a couple making out and saying that shit should be left for in private.

-Stop drinking as much when going out to bars, girls LOVE to get touchy feely with a man they're fucking, this always happens

-Stop seeing her as much

-Or simply fadeaway from her

Post: #9774

Yeah man I know she likes me, she keeps trying to sell me the 'boyfriend dream' on the sly, and I don't really feel or show much affection for her.

In fact I roast her most of the time so it was probably just her way of reaching out to me but in the moment, it irritated me.

I don't really have to manage her she just comes and goes as the mood takes her and I don't miss her.

She doesn't say it obviously but Im sure she's also seeing other guys too when she disappears but I let her creep back when she wants to because the sex is great, I bite and rump the absolute fuck out of her and did i mention she squirts? ... a lot! lol

So it is what it is but I don't think I'll ever be big on PDA whoever it is.

The most I ever used to give my wife who I adored was a peck on the forehead.
Just feels gay AF!

Post: #9775

Don't be irritated a girl wants to be all over you - that's a sign of you doing something right.

That's fine, she can cum and go, literally.

I'm not big on PDA, I don't ever try to make a move like that on a girl, I've had girls pull that on me, I don't mind much.


It's not gay to express your emotions physically to a woman.

We game so much we get detached from showing affection physically - we become a bit cold and distant (this is part of the process).


Just keep her in the bedroom or do things very low key, use the hamster explanations, and guide her.