Post: #301

(02-09-2017 08:36 PM)Lino Wrote:  I am staying because I am setting up a company here, it takes time and is very painful

Have basically the same plan. What do you think of London from this perspective. Was the incorporation, getting the bank account and dealing with all the rest a smooth experience?

Btw, 8 notches in 3-4 months isn't that bad for a city like London, how was the quality of those 8?

Post: #302

I would advise anyone who lives in London to try to make the best of it.

If you don't enjoy London or don't bang 8's and 9's regularly, as you would probably do in Kiev, just buy a ticket and leave.

Too many guys are whining and complaining and repeating cliches and stereotypes instead of trying to find solutions.

London is what it is. If you don't like it, leave. But if you stay, try to understand how things work. Vacationers or even guys who've been here less than 2 years is impossible to understand the complexity of London and get solid results.

Post: #303

fuck this. i think this is the month of February and everything is complaining. come july and everyone is boasting notches.

london is a cool global city. I am assuming you are not making minimum wage. you can go out, get girls, do what ever you like, yah sure some girls are off limits but most are 7s who you can get a bang with reasonable effort

Post: #304

(02-10-2017 02:21 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  This thread has been super informative..

I was thinking about moving to London from Germany but upon reading what you guys say here I am considering other English cities instead.

Germany is shit and I need to get outta here in the next 5 years.

I'd take a lot of this with a grain of salt to be honest. You really need to gauge what it is that you want from a city and really at the end of the day you almost have to live somewhere first to see if you'd do well long term.

I absolutely love London. The weather is perfect (never too hot/cold), the transit system works albeit it's expensive, as a young married professional it's very easy to break into social circles of similar people, and networking for work is even easier.

London is NYC with class.

The key difference for me though is i'm not gaming and dealing with single women. I tend to roll in different circles and partying isn't my be all end all. I'm awkward as $hit at bars and clubs. The London tribe knows what's up

Regardless, i've met a ton of very reliable people who stick around and aren't tempermental. Frankly Kir, i think you'd find London swell even as a black man (which no one in England cares about). You're a professional dude and would do well.

If you're thinking of visiting ping one of the London guys and you can meet the crew. I love England even in the winter (rarely snows or goes below freezing).

I'd check out London and the UK for work sooner rather than later with all of the Brexit stuff happening.

Post: #305

"The weather is perfect"

Post: #306

(02-11-2017 03:05 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  "The weather is perfect"

You laugh, try living in Boston for a few years!

Post: #307

(02-11-2017 03:24 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  You laugh, try living in Boston for a few years!

I really laughed too though. Were you living in Alaska before Boston? How is London's weather good, man?

I think London has worst weather in Europe, probably like with Tromso from Norway.

Post: #308

(02-11-2017 06:03 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

(02-11-2017 03:24 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  You laugh, try living in Boston for a few years!

I really laughed too though. Were you living in Alaska before Boston? How is London's weather good, man?

I think London has worst weather in Europe, probably like with Tromso from Norway.

I've lived in New England for most of my life. For me, winter always meant multiple meters of snow, needing snow tires, freezing to death when walking outsides, having multiple days (and later in my adult life weeks) off from school/work because of snow, and paying out the ass to keep myself warm. The thermostat never went higher than 66* F.

I'd write up all of the reasons why London has way better weather, but I don't need to. It's all outlined in this post:

/thread-21413...#pid963282

For the record, i've had more snow days for work than i've ever had for school. The weather this year too got so bad in Boston they gave 2 days off to everyone in the city because the subways can't run!

After living in England and the UK now for awhile, it's a tropical paradise in comparison. I haven't seen snow in over a year which absolutely blew my mind. It rarely drops below freezing and the air is remarkably humid all of the time. I joke when I say England sent all of its undesirables to a veritable frozen circle of hell (but it's true).

Contrast that with New England: the air is dry, rests several degrees below freezing, the wind chill makes it even colder, and then you've got several feet of snow to deal with. fuck.that.shit!

England's temperature is mild. While it doesn't get too cold it doesn't get very hot either. The amount of rain is the trade off for this which I absolutely do not mind.

Alaska is in a different league when it comes to miserable winters. In certain places, you need a block and fuel heater to be able to run your car there.

I know winter and London doesn't hold a candle to winters in New and the midwest. Take a trip to the snow belt (Buffalo NY) right about now for a test of your winter fortitude.

Post: #309

''I think London has worst weather in Europe, probably like with Tromso from Norway.''

@Rossi, I would be very cautious, before making such totally untrue statements.

London's weather is definitely better than thousands other cities in North - Central Europe or UK.

Post: #310

(02-10-2017 02:21 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  This thread has been super informative..

I was thinking about moving to London from Germany but upon reading what you guys say here I am considering other English cities instead.

Germany is shit and I need to get outta here in the next 5 years.

Each to their own, I would advise living in cities such as Brighton or Manchester, liverpool even. They used to have a bad reputation well mainly the latter two. But ultimately they are way better in terms of lifestyle, rent and girls. I was surprised to see people in their mid 20s buying their own houses up north. Something which you won't see in London unless money is passed down in the family.

Post: #311

(02-11-2017 12:49 AM)1799 Wrote:  

(02-09-2017 08:36 PM)Lino Wrote:  I am staying because I am setting up a company here, it takes time and is very painful

Have basically the same plan. What do you think of London from this perspective. Was the incorporation, getting the bank account and dealing with all the rest a smooth experience?

Btw, 8 notches in 3-4 months isn't that bad for a city like London, how was the quality of those 8?

The incorporation was the easiest, I would recommend to get an accountant who will guide you through the process.
The incorporation takes more or less 3 days, opening the business account took ages for me as you need to have a tenancy agreement on your name. You have to register your company to the VAT and get a PAYE scheme to pay the income tax and national insurance. The simplest is to go through these steps with an accountant.

The quality of girls was ok, 1 gorgeous brasilian who unfortunately got caught by the police while working illegally and sent back to Brasil. I am still in touch with her and hopefully will see her again. The others were brasilian, jamaican, mixed jamaican/dutch, mixed british/carribean, filippina, south korean and british.
You find girls coming from everywhere here which is a good thing.

I am sharing my experiences in this city, I don't see the point of messages such as "yesterday I fucked a serbian, life is good" or "make the most out of London, love it or leave it"...
As I said earlier, to each his own, this is my experience, I lived in several countries before and am looking for a good quality of life and women with good attitudes.

I think one of the reasons why I loved the first brasilian here is that she was fresh off the plane, she still had the good attitude brasilian women have, warm, kind, smiling and very passionate. After a couple of years in London all the chicks get their ego inflated and get bad attitudes. If you guys are fine with that I am really happy for you, I prefer women with good attitudes.

I travel a lot for my job and I work hard, when I have a job offer which allows me to do interesting things and to earn money then I give it a try, which is what I am doing here, but it takes time in London.

Post: #312

I had a weekend in London about a month ago, first time since discovering "red pill" or whatnot.

I LOVED IT!

I mean, even though the percentage of girls that are hot in London (compared to Sweden) are worse, I think guys forget to consider that London is a huge city with a big population - and thus London has more hot girls aswell (even though the majority of the girls are ugly or fat there). So basically, even though - on average - the girls might be prettier in Sweden or Ukraine, or whatever place you want, I believe it's about looking at how many 9's and 10's you can find in a place. And London did deliver on those terms.

I particularly remember going to Project Club, it's a pricey high end club (at least if you don't got much of a network over there), but the talent there was very impressive.
Some super hot girls. Tinder worked like a dime there, seems to be even bigger there than it's in my country. And girls were more friendly and open aswell. Got opened myself by a few chicks there out in the night life, which rarely happens otherwise.

Actually, being back in UK for the first time in about 10 yrs, it reminded me of how much I like the place and that I've become too used to accept snarky, boring, stiff, uptight and passive aggressive Scandinavians. Impressive how people in a big city like London still are much friendlier and helpful than most places in Scandinavia.

If I should find something to complain about it's how expensive London is, especially transport. £ 12 for a daycard and it can often take ages to get around with all the traffic, engineering work etc.

+ Btw, a great place to go for a date is Rumpus Room. Was a bit crowdy and hard to find seats there after about 9 pm but it's a cool sky bar with a great view over the city.

Post: #313

Moved to London couple of months back. Just about settled now, renting a flat in Clapham and furnished , painted personalised it.

Now looking to shoot a video datasheet and go heavy on the pussy hunt.

Untill now really havent had a minute free but managed to hit Electric, the famous club in Brixton and 2 weekends in a row I got put on the guest list as I was friends with the DJs playing that night. I saw huge queues of people all night outside the venue and instagram hoes paying £40 to get in. Even with my fame game couldnt get anyones attention rest alone pulling. Most girls were entitled up their arse under 23 nose pierced choker wearing uni hoes dancing with a backpack on while sipping some coctail with the straw and had an attention span of 15 seconds on average and cared more about being cocky and putting a guy down than have an actual conversation or make out.

I remember hooking up with 2 similar english birds while on tour with some DJs in Berlin last year and that was mechanical but easy. After 2 nights at Electric and Grand Union another popular place in Brixton without much success I am looking for a hack to crack the code.

Tinder hasnt been kind to me either.

So fellas with all your London experience where did you get your bangs from ? Which demographics? Which area? Which bars/clubs? What game did you run ?

I appreciate concrete result oriented personal experience based data than a general commentary on the club scenes like in Boris Alotofmuff's London Datasheet (although I appreciate the work put into that sheet) .

Any data is much appreciated and I will make a professionally shot detailed analytical video datasheet and release in the coming months.

THANKSS

Post: #314

(02-20-2017 07:45 AM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  Moved to London couple of months back. Just about settled now, renting a flat in Clapham and furnished , painted personalised it.

Now looking to shoot a video datasheet and go heavy on the pussy hunt.

Untill now really havent had a minute free but managed to hit Electric, the famous club in Brixton and 2 weekends in a row I got put on the guest list as I was friends with the DJs playing that night. I saw huge queues of people all night outside the venue and instagram hoes paying £40 to get in. Even with my fame game couldnt get anyones attention rest alone pulling. Most girls were entitled up their arse under 23 nose pierced choker wearing uni hoes dancing with a backpack on while sipping some coctail with the straw and had an attention span of 15 seconds on average and cared more about being cocky and putting a guy down than have an actual conversation or make out.

I remember hooking up with 2 similar english birds while on tour with some DJs in Berlin last year and that was mechanical but easy. After 2 nights at Electric and Grand Union another popular place in Brixton without much success I am looking for a hack to crack the code.

Tinder hasnt been kind to me either.

So fellas with all your London experience where did you get your bangs from ? Which demographics? Which area? Which bars/clubs? What game did you run ?

I appreciate concrete result oriented personal experience based data than a general commentary on the club scenes like in Boris Alotofmuff's London Datasheet (although I appreciate the work put into that sheet) .

Any data is much appreciated and I will make a professionally shot detailed analytical video datasheet and release in the coming months.

THANKSS

London is not easy, womans market IMO, a lot of thirsty guys, a lot of wealthy guys to compete with. and not a huge amount of 7.5+.
the 6s and 7s can destroy your ego, so yeh don't take it personal, its the way it is here, just the state of play. Girls dont really show respect men in London due to being overly liberal/feminised/beta society. The status of play is you chase me, i decide if i want to give you attention, or even ignore if i feel like. Especially girls in the age of 18-23, that would be a nightmare.

Hope you crack the code though. London is clique/groups.

essex glam
West End glam
city /square mile
Brick Lane/Camden funky style
Urban Road
Urban Upscale
Etc etc

There is some crossover of course, A lot of times they date/smash within there circles, so you have to find what lane works for you, so just be self aware.

The issue is a lot of the 6s think there 8s, due to the distorted market.

Credentials: London born and raised, early 30s, 100+ conquests

Post: #315

Having lived in London 13 yrs now its IMHO probably one of the hardest places to get high quality girls consistently. As others have pointed out there's a lot of guys was ££$$ down to the city financial centres , and not a huge amount of quality women. Cities like Liverpool or Manchester have a better split.
Saying that I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Social circle game is probably the best game in town , unless you do night club promotion , have tables etc.

Post: #316

Idk where in London you are or what your age is, so this may not be helpful for you, but I studied abroad in London and found it very easy to hook up with good looking 20 somethings. I lived near my school, Goldsmiths, in the New Cross area of London. The girls there like to party HARD and not are particularly resistant to going home with you.

Check out the Hobgoblin Pub early or the New Cross Inn late. The Goldsmiths student union bar is also open to the public, though if you look significantly older than college age that may be weird. People tend to go there on Wednesdays.

Post: #317

(02-20-2017 07:45 AM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  So fellas with all your London experience where did you get your bangs from ? Which demographics? Which area? Which bars/clubs? What game did you run ?
THANKSS

I'd say 80% of my bangs come from online, the rest are from indirect approaches, with my schedule I don't get as much time to go out and approach.

I'm surprised you said Tinder hasn't been treating you well, over the valentines day week I had a ton of luck come through with it. Is it possibly your pictures or bio?

I'm in West London so the places I frequent mostly will be the bars/clubs around Sheperds Bush (Brewdog/Princess Victoria) & Uxbridge (Slug & Lettuce/Liquids < this is a dive but you're bound to get some action/The Met)

These places are both mixed bags.

You will find more diversity in Bush but better quality in Uxbridge.

Post: #318

So how is the day game in London? Lets say you are experienced and have a lot of approaches under your belt in other major cities. I am guessing its pretty good, because the Brits are highly receptive to approach and game outside of London. But I could be wrong when they are on their home turf. Probably shouldn't admit this here, but I have a thing for British women. Probably my programming as a kid watching Samantha Fox, The Divinyl's and Shirley Manson. I think British women are really hot. Of course if they take care of themselves, have a nice body, dress well, etc. The adventurous/outdoorsy aspect is a turn on. Blue eyes, style, quirkiness, I really dig these chicks. I've dated a lot of them. All different types of British chicks too, north, south, Londoners, etc. There is a certain look that hot British girls have that no other countries have, I can't put my finger on it, but you know it when you see it. But I've experienced exactly the type you describe in London, the insufferable narcissistic careerist 7. This is always a total turn off. I think there are better ones than that, but they may be harder to find. I'd imagine men in other countries feel that way about American women, who I have really no interest in at all.....

Post: #319

(02-20-2017 08:49 AM)giama Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 07:45 AM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  Moved to London couple of months back. Just about settled now, renting a flat in Clapham and furnished , painted personalised it.

Now looking to shoot a video datasheet and go heavy on the pussy hunt.

Untill now really havent had a minute free but managed to hit Electric, the famous club in Brixton and 2 weekends in a row I got put on the guest list as I was friends with the DJs playing that night. I saw huge queues of people all night outside the venue and instagram hoes paying £40 to get in. Even with my fame game couldnt get anyones attention rest alone pulling. Most girls were entitled up their arse under 23 nose pierced choker wearing uni hoes dancing with a backpack on while sipping some coctail with the straw and had an attention span of 15 seconds on average and cared more about being cocky and putting a guy down than have an actual conversation or make out.

I remember hooking up with 2 similar english birds while on tour with some DJs in Berlin last year and that was mechanical but easy. After 2 nights at Electric and Grand Union another popular place in Brixton without much success I am looking for a hack to crack the code.

Tinder hasnt been kind to me either.

So fellas with all your London experience where did you get your bangs from ? Which demographics? Which area? Which bars/clubs? What game did you run ?

I appreciate concrete result oriented personal experience based data than a general commentary on the club scenes like in Boris Alotofmuff's London Datasheet (although I appreciate the work put into that sheet) .

Any data is much appreciated and I will make a professionally shot detailed analytical video datasheet and release in the coming months.

THANKSS

London is not easy, womans market IMO, a lot of thirsty guys, a lot of wealthy guys to compete with. and not a huge amount of 7.5+.
the 6s and 7s can destroy your ego, so yeh don't take it personal, its the way it is here, just the state of play. Girls dont really show respect men in London due to being overly liberal/feminised/beta society. The status of play is you chase me, i decide if i want to give you attention, or even ignore if i feel like. Especially girls in the age of 18-23, that would be a nightmare.

Hope you crack the code though. London is clique/groups.

essex glam
West End glam
city /square mile
Brick Lane/Camden funky style
Urban Road
Urban Upscale
Etc etc

There is some crossover of course, A lot of times they date/smash within there circles, so you have to find what lane works for you, so just be self aware.

The issue is a lot of the 6s think there 8s, due to the distorted market.

Credentials: London born and raised, early 30s, 100+ conquests

@Giama your view about London is very accurate imo, I am here since only few months but I feel exactly the same about this city.
@Napoleon, this is London mate, don't take it personally, you need to find your niche.
Not sure I can give you concrete advises, back home I do street picking with good results but in London it doesnt work, had maybe 10 numbers in the street from girls who were 7-8 but it didnt go far with them, I can't stand their attitude actually, thry really dont respect men here, you send a whatsapp message and they barely answer...Also another topic is many black chicks seem to be gold diggers, at least the ones who live in the Canary wharf area, I had within the first texts questions like "it's my birthday next week, what are you getting me?" Or "how do you spend your money? If you wanna make me happy buy me Louboutin" or "I cant date at the moment because I have financial problems"...wtf??

My bangs all came from tinder, the first weeks I was going on dates and paying drinks or dinner and getting nothing, now I m not spending more than 10£ on a bitch and either I get her home quickly or I tell her to fuck-off.

Post: #320

(02-20-2017 09:59 AM)Lino Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:49 AM)giama Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 07:45 AM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  Moved to London couple of months back. Just about settled now, renting a flat in Clapham and furnished , painted personalised it.

Now looking to shoot a video datasheet and go heavy on the pussy hunt.

Untill now really havent had a minute free but managed to hit Electric, the famous club in Brixton and 2 weekends in a row I got put on the guest list as I was friends with the DJs playing that night. I saw huge queues of people all night outside the venue and instagram hoes paying £40 to get in. Even with my fame game couldnt get anyones attention rest alone pulling. Most girls were entitled up their arse under 23 nose pierced choker wearing uni hoes dancing with a backpack on while sipping some coctail with the straw and had an attention span of 15 seconds on average and cared more about being cocky and putting a guy down than have an actual conversation or make out.

I remember hooking up with 2 similar english birds while on tour with some DJs in Berlin last year and that was mechanical but easy. After 2 nights at Electric and Grand Union another popular place in Brixton without much success I am looking for a hack to crack the code.

Tinder hasnt been kind to me either.

So fellas with all your London experience where did you get your bangs from ? Which demographics? Which area? Which bars/clubs? What game did you run ?

I appreciate concrete result oriented personal experience based data than a general commentary on the club scenes like in Boris Alotofmuff's London Datasheet (although I appreciate the work put into that sheet) .

Any data is much appreciated and I will make a professionally shot detailed analytical video datasheet and release in the coming months.

THANKSS

London is not easy, womans market IMO, a lot of thirsty guys, a lot of wealthy guys to compete with. and not a huge amount of 7.5+.
the 6s and 7s can destroy your ego, so yeh don't take it personal, its the way it is here, just the state of play. Girls dont really show respect men in London due to being overly liberal/feminised/beta society. The status of play is you chase me, i decide if i want to give you attention, or even ignore if i feel like. Especially girls in the age of 18-23, that would be a nightmare.

Hope you crack the code though. London is clique/groups.

essex glam
West End glam
city /square mile
Brick Lane/Camden funky style
Urban Road
Urban Upscale
Etc etc

There is some crossover of course, A lot of times they date/smash within there circles, so you have to find what lane works for you, so just be self aware.

The issue is a lot of the 6s think there 8s, due to the distorted market.

Credentials: London born and raised, early 30s, 100+ conquests

@Giama your view about London is very accurate imo, I am here since only few months but I feel exactly the same about this city.
@Napoleon, this is London mate, don't take it personally, you need to find your niche.
Not sure I can give you concrete advises, back home I do street picking with good results but in London it doesnt work, had maybe 10 numbers in the street from girls who were 7-8 but it didnt go far with them, I can't stand their attitude actually, thry really dont respect men here, you send a whatsapp message and they barely answer...Also another topic is many black chicks seem to be gold diggers, at least the ones who live in the Canary wharf area, I had within the first texts questions like "it's my birthday next week, what are you getting me?" Or "how do you spend your money? If you wanna make me happy buy me Louboutin" or "I cant date at the moment because I have financial problems"...wtf??

My bangs all came from tinder, the first weeks I was going on dates and paying drinks or dinner and getting nothing, now I m not spending more than 10£ on a bitch and either I get her home quickly or I tell her to fuck-off.

A lot of the black girls that are 8s and 9s have sugar daddys, sometimes even the 7s, if they have a good body.

This is who they are having sex with, there getting dirty for there sugar daddies, who may be city workers, anyone who has done well financially. Serious money in London! You will never see a photo of these guys.

then there is a bunch of regular guys vying for those girls to, so they will do stuff like that to work out which guys they can break for money. They have a lot of options at the higher end.

You have to do a lot of work and go through a lot of nonsense eventually you will find a humble 7 or 7.5, but its very hard. A humble 8 gold dust, these will be wifed up by the time they reach 26.

Lots of guys are dating down. The p**sy is put on a pedestal here.

@Lino what race are you?

Post: #321

(02-20-2017 10:23 AM)giama Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:59 AM)Lino Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:49 AM)giama Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 07:45 AM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  Moved to London couple of months back. Just about settled now, renting a flat in Clapham and furnished , painted personalised it.

Now looking to shoot a video datasheet and go heavy on the pussy hunt.

Untill now really havent had a minute free but managed to hit Electric, the famous club in Brixton and 2 weekends in a row I got put on the guest list as I was friends with the DJs playing that night. I saw huge queues of people all night outside the venue and instagram hoes paying £40 to get in. Even with my fame game couldnt get anyones attention rest alone pulling. Most girls were entitled up their arse under 23 nose pierced choker wearing uni hoes dancing with a backpack on while sipping some coctail with the straw and had an attention span of 15 seconds on average and cared more about being cocky and putting a guy down than have an actual conversation or make out.

I remember hooking up with 2 similar english birds while on tour with some DJs in Berlin last year and that was mechanical but easy. After 2 nights at Electric and Grand Union another popular place in Brixton without much success I am looking for a hack to crack the code.

Tinder hasnt been kind to me either.

So fellas with all your London experience where did you get your bangs from ? Which demographics? Which area? Which bars/clubs? What game did you run ?

I appreciate concrete result oriented personal experience based data than a general commentary on the club scenes like in Boris Alotofmuff's London Datasheet (although I appreciate the work put into that sheet) .

Any data is much appreciated and I will make a professionally shot detailed analytical video datasheet and release in the coming months.

THANKSS

London is not easy, womans market IMO, a lot of thirsty guys, a lot of wealthy guys to compete with. and not a huge amount of 7.5+.
the 6s and 7s can destroy your ego, so yeh don't take it personal, its the way it is here, just the state of play. Girls dont really show respect men in London due to being overly liberal/feminised/beta society. The status of play is you chase me, i decide if i want to give you attention, or even ignore if i feel like. Especially girls in the age of 18-23, that would be a nightmare.

Hope you crack the code though. London is clique/groups.

essex glam
West End glam
city /square mile
Brick Lane/Camden funky style
Urban Road
Urban Upscale
Etc etc

There is some crossover of course, A lot of times they date/smash within there circles, so you have to find what lane works for you, so just be self aware.

The issue is a lot of the 6s think there 8s, due to the distorted market.

Credentials: London born and raised, early 30s, 100+ conquests

@Giama your view about London is very accurate imo, I am here since only few months but I feel exactly the same about this city.
@Napoleon, this is London mate, don't take it personally, you need to find your niche.
Not sure I can give you concrete advises, back home I do street picking with good results but in London it doesnt work, had maybe 10 numbers in the street from girls who were 7-8 but it didnt go far with them, I can't stand their attitude actually, thry really dont respect men here, you send a whatsapp message and they barely answer...Also another topic is many black chicks seem to be gold diggers, at least the ones who live in the Canary wharf area, I had within the first texts questions like "it's my birthday next week, what are you getting me?" Or "how do you spend your money? If you wanna make me happy buy me Louboutin" or "I cant date at the moment because I have financial problems"...wtf??

My bangs all came from tinder, the first weeks I was going on dates and paying drinks or dinner and getting nothing, now I m not spending more than 10£ on a bitch and either I get her home quickly or I tell her to fuck-off.

A lot of the black girls that are 8s and 9s have sugar daddys, sometimes even the 7s, if they have a good body.

This is who they are having sex with, there getting dirty for there sugar daddies, who may be city workers, anyone who has done well financially. Serious money in London! You will never see a photo of these guys.

then there is a bunch of regular guys vying for those girls to, so they will do stuff like that to work out which guys they can break for money. They have a lot of options at the higher end.

You have to do a lot of work and go through a lot of nonsense eventually you will find a humble 7 or 7.5, but its very hard. A humble 8 gold dust, these will be wifed up by the time they reach 26.

Lots of guys are dating down. The p**sy is put on a pedestal here.

@Lino what race are you?

I'm white, I look latin. Fair skin, dark hair...

Post: #322

(02-20-2017 10:52 AM)Lino Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:23 AM)giama Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:59 AM)Lino Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:49 AM)giama Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 07:45 AM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  Moved to London couple of months back. Just about settled now, renting a flat in Clapham and furnished , painted personalised it.

Now looking to shoot a video datasheet and go heavy on the pussy hunt.

Untill now really havent had a minute free but managed to hit Electric, the famous club in Brixton and 2 weekends in a row I got put on the guest list as I was friends with the DJs playing that night. I saw huge queues of people all night outside the venue and instagram hoes paying £40 to get in. Even with my fame game couldnt get anyones attention rest alone pulling. Most girls were entitled up their arse under 23 nose pierced choker wearing uni hoes dancing with a backpack on while sipping some coctail with the straw and had an attention span of 15 seconds on average and cared more about being cocky and putting a guy down than have an actual conversation or make out.

I remember hooking up with 2 similar english birds while on tour with some DJs in Berlin last year and that was mechanical but easy. After 2 nights at Electric and Grand Union another popular place in Brixton without much success I am looking for a hack to crack the code.

Tinder hasnt been kind to me either.

So fellas with all your London experience where did you get your bangs from ? Which demographics? Which area? Which bars/clubs? What game did you run ?

I appreciate concrete result oriented personal experience based data than a general commentary on the club scenes like in Boris Alotofmuff's London Datasheet (although I appreciate the work put into that sheet) .

Any data is much appreciated and I will make a professionally shot detailed analytical video datasheet and release in the coming months.

THANKSS

London is not easy, womans market IMO, a lot of thirsty guys, a lot of wealthy guys to compete with. and not a huge amount of 7.5+.
the 6s and 7s can destroy your ego, so yeh don't take it personal, its the way it is here, just the state of play. Girls dont really show respect men in London due to being overly liberal/feminised/beta society. The status of play is you chase me, i decide if i want to give you attention, or even ignore if i feel like. Especially girls in the age of 18-23, that would be a nightmare.

Hope you crack the code though. London is clique/groups.

essex glam
West End glam
city /square mile
Brick Lane/Camden funky style
Urban Road
Urban Upscale
Etc etc

There is some crossover of course, A lot of times they date/smash within there circles, so you have to find what lane works for you, so just be self aware.

The issue is a lot of the 6s think there 8s, due to the distorted market.

Credentials: London born and raised, early 30s, 100+ conquests

@Giama your view about London is very accurate imo, I am here since only few months but I feel exactly the same about this city.
@Napoleon, this is London mate, don't take it personally, you need to find your niche.
Not sure I can give you concrete advises, back home I do street picking with good results but in London it doesnt work, had maybe 10 numbers in the street from girls who were 7-8 but it didnt go far with them, I can't stand their attitude actually, thry really dont respect men here, you send a whatsapp message and they barely answer...Also another topic is many black chicks seem to be gold diggers, at least the ones who live in the Canary wharf area, I had within the first texts questions like "it's my birthday next week, what are you getting me?" Or "how do you spend your money? If you wanna make me happy buy me Louboutin" or "I cant date at the moment because I have financial problems"...wtf??

My bangs all came from tinder, the first weeks I was going on dates and paying drinks or dinner and getting nothing, now I m not spending more than 10£ on a bitch and either I get her home quickly or I tell her to fuck-off.

A lot of the black girls that are 8s and 9s have sugar daddys, sometimes even the 7s, if they have a good body.

This is who they are having sex with, there getting dirty for there sugar daddies, who may be city workers, anyone who has done well financially. Serious money in London! You will never see a photo of these guys.

then there is a bunch of regular guys vying for those girls to, so they will do stuff like that to work out which guys they can break for money. They have a lot of options at the higher end.

You have to do a lot of work and go through a lot of nonsense eventually you will find a humble 7 or 7.5, but its very hard. A humble 8 gold dust, these will be wifed up by the time they reach 26.

Lots of guys are dating down. The p**sy is put on a pedestal here.

@Lino what race are you?

I'm white, I look latin. Fair skin, dark hair...

OK, messed up that the girls are running that game on you. As a note my lane is the urban upscale lane, (nothing upscale about it, just basically non-ghetto urban)

IM assuming you like brown/black girls
Have you been to Latin America?

I went to dominican republic and have 0 interest or motivation to deal with a woman from London and the nonsense, after experiencing that. You get treated like a celebrity. and the women look better then in London. Better body, better attitude. i havent cold called for years, but out there its super easy when your a tourist.

I just hope you know that there is another world out there, im thinking your in your early 20s. And let me sum it up like this.

In terms of latina/mixed/black women.
You can spend the next the next 10 years of your life chasing women in London and look back and you will have a decent list and a lot of head ache. You could go to South America or Dominican Republic for 1 month and i guarantee you will smash finer women in that month, then you will smash in 10 years of being in London.

Once you go there and come back you will really laugh at the London chics and there expectations. And that is priceless, because it will mature you as a man, you will be more alpha on your return too, because you wont put up with nonsense

What i do(and would recommend) is find a 6.5 or 7 thats humble (not easy), or with a small social circle (not a nightclub girl) and keep that as the regular fuckbuddy, and build your finances/businesses, and deal with women abroad. Chasing the next 8 in London, will leave most men running around like a headless chicken, its a hard task as there is more demand then supply.

Travel where your £ goes further and the women are naturally beautiful.
In terms of black Women they have better bodies in Spanish Caribbean and L.A then you will find in the UK, pound for pound. And you have all shades of the rainbow. from olive skin to jet black. Its in their culture to cook, clean and please a man. literally in there culture.

The Black/mixed girl 8s and 9s split into two categories:
70% fall into the insta famous category- dating u21 players from London football clubs, the players in the full team just smash them they never date them, nigerians throwing money at them, shopping trips, getting flyed out to miami/dubai, rappers after partys, have sugar daddys, VIP tables, Louboutin, channel handbags, those girls live all that for free. A lot dont work but get through on looks. A lot of the 7-9s are doing this. Generally aged 19-28, after that age usually they fade or fall off. But some black girls age very well and can pull it off into there late 30s. Its a job for them.

20% are the ones that may not agree with the life or dont have the personality or circle for those crowds, for example a mixed race girl who is a 8 but shes very hippie and into fashion school, more of a creative artsy type, but dont be fooled even those can have sugar daddys too. But they dont look as materialistic on the outside and generally are not.

10%- girls that are humble, that dont realise how fine they are, and just dont have the game, skills or confidence required to get wealthy men. Dont package themselfs the way the insta girls are.

Dont estimate the effect of money will have on dating if your goal is getting with top notch women in London

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10 years ago the game was different.

The 43 year old finance guy who earns £200k a year and lives in fulham, could not chat up the beautiful 22 year old sales worker from the council estate in Edmonton.

The 45 year old rich guy from Nigeria, who travels extensively, couldnt chat up the beautiful 19 y/o selfridges worker from Battersea.

But there is internet sites that connect these people up. Prior to the internet i imagine it would have been very hard and socially awkward for these sets to match up.

This has an effect on the dating options for regular hook ups, if there was tens of thousands of 8s then it wouldnt have much effect, but london does not have as many 8s, so i believe it has an effect on anyone focused on quality.

My theory is this, Im going to give you some insight on a girl im good friends with, who would probably be considered a 6.5-7.5 by most but is very curvacious which is her main sex appeal

Shes fun fucking a couple guys with paper, that treat her. She has another guy who shes madly in love/lust with.

So shes probably sleeping with 3 guys currently, 2 rich guys, and 1 guy she really likes.
So there is no space for her to be fun fucking the guy that has some game that she met in a club, she knows that will mess up her time with the 2 rich guys. Unless the new guy she meets replaces the 1 guy she really likes.

Lets just assume all 8s and 9s (if not in a LTR) have a rotation of 3 dicks, 2 are rich dicks, and 1 dick is the guy she really likes but that guy is not trying to wife. When she goes out she will only add you to her rotation if your her (a)- picture perfect man, or (b), a rich dick.

Im talking about the top notch women, not 5s and 6s.
10 years ago i imagine the top notch women didnt have access to rich dicks so easily and were given more regular guys a chance. more fun fucking. Theres no incentive anymore, they know they cant fuck a guy everyday or manage another guy so they prioritise. That results in the not interested/up there ass attitude that many complain about from London girls

Post: #324

also with the 8s and 9s social status is another thing worth mentioning, typically they date "up" in social status. (Which is expected with women)

so more often then not you will be dating down/frustrated, it just compounds in london because of all the other factors in the pot.

Post: #325

You are actually describing what I am experiencing currently. An additional element is I think women's attitude in London would be different if cost of living was lower.

I am actually late thirties, I do indeed love mixed brown/black women and I went to Brasil nearly 2 years ago, I had maybe the best women of my life there and totally felt in love with these women. I agree once you experienced that you have no patience or will to deal with London pigs. Actually I lived in Sweden and even there women were way nicer, they were feminist but if they had a thing for you they would fuck you the 1st night and wouldn't care at all about your money.

I am planning to stay 2-3 years here maximum, unfortunately I am not location independant or I would be living in Brasil.

Again I think you are spot on with the instagram brown chicks, keep on with the analysis mate, it is golden for me, not to help me getting laid but to understand better the social dynamics.

Btw I am also above the 100 conquests (I say it in all humility, first time I mention it), I manage to get laid here but the attitude of chicks really putts me off and didnt catch yet one of these mixed curvaceous babies.