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how have you faired with dating 30-37 year olds?

The issue with that age is all are passed there best, and bodies usually kinda bad at that point. I noticed a lot of 6.5s if single will co-operate when they reach about 29 years of age. Its because they know there not top notch and there time is almost up, and they know the new crop of women are better then them.

What is the average age of the black girls you are talking to that mention about money, if there 23 and your late 30s, there probably thinking you have money. Black girls will generally date up to about 5 years up, after the dynamic changes into a sugar daddy relationship. IMO, most of uk probably the same.

These London girls/students/20 somethings are getting up to all kinds, but you wouldnt even know it, sometimes its not even a public thing, there getting cabs directly to these guys apartments, to carry on these secret relationships.

I know a lot of shit about these chics, the london urban scene is small and very connected, all the girls know each other. Wont be suprised if there is some London based documentaries that come out soon. Its sad but its reality.

Some even go to Nigeria/Ghana, but admittedly only the real hardcore ones are willing to do this. But ive seen it a girl with no connection to those countries over there, and then i find out later why they went.

Also please be aware of african culture when dealing with black/brown women.

African men spoil there women, thats cultural. So if the 8 or 9 is from a african background, her suitors will be spoiling her and she will expect you to match that, as thats what shes use to.

If you date a caribbean descendant 8 or 9, with strong caribbean roots, there not as money orientated. They will turn down men with money to deal with there regular guy. They dont place as much value on what a man has in his pocket. They wont expect you to come to the table with as much, This is the lane thats given me most success. But what works for one man wont work for another.

Mixed race girls 8s and 9s can be super narcissistic, as they have the highest perceived value by men. All races will give it a go.
Mixed race girls will crush your ego unless you know better.

Im talking generally ofcourse.
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I've been living in London and must say I agree with what is being said here.London is a city that will destroy your soul.Women have an attitude of feeling they are too important to give you the time of day even if they are 5 and 6's. You've got fat girls thinking they are models.You walk on the sidewalks and you see girls with scowl on their faces more often than not who don't hesitate to change sides if they are alone and see you walking in their direction.An abundant share of over cynical women moulded by the feminist values that are arising in this city exist and it can get quite frustrating.

As mentioned before,social circle and online sites work better here.In my experience most lays have come from OK cupid (several fucking on the first date).Tinder might work but most of the women feel entitled and have such snobby attitudes.
02-20-2017 01:41 PM
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i think now is a good time to find out where the attractive girls from the ages of 31-38 are, i do wonder what black hole they fell into, deep down i know they are in relationships, and a large percent have lost there bodies.

these girls would have missed the online generation, and should not have the big following and ego that social media brang, the problem is in this age group and i think the women have young kids, or not so good looking any more, its a shame because its not old, its just women dont look after the bodies in the UK., they dont eat right and dont have the incentive to work out as there is always guys offering sex. But it would be nice to have that age range to fall back on.
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(02-20-2017 01:41 PM)etlapot Wrote:  I've been living in London and must say I agree with what is being said here.London is a city that will destroy your soul.Women have an attitude of feeling they are too important to give you the time of day even if they are 5 and 6's. You've got fat girls thinking they are models.You walk on the sidewalks and you see girls with scowl on their faces more often than not who don't hesitate to change sides if they are alone and see you walking in their direction.An abundant share of over cynical women moulded by the feminist values that are arising in this city exist and it can get quite frustrating.

As mentioned before,social circle and online sites work better here.In my experience most lays have come from OK cupid (several fucking on the first date).Tinder might work but most of the women feel entitled and have such snobby attitudes.


Exactly. the market is embalanced, i know guys that are in competition shape (adonis shape, personality, status, good looking) with fat pigs, who were fat throughout the relationship.

I know good looking talented, wealthy guys, with game with women who are out of shape and wont be getting in shape any time soon, and bring no £ to the relationship.

I know a guy whos reasonably good looking, in shape of a welterweight boxer, who has a fat out of shape girlfriend, unattractive with kids prior to meeting.

The guys that are successful have average girls, i know some guys who have dated on there level.

But i dont know any instances where a guy would be considered a 7 and the girl a 9, dont know one guy personally thats remotely close to that.

Im finding that a large portion of women just dont want to work out, they just don't see the need to. Ive personally changed my whole perspective on the dating scene in London
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and yeh if you talk to a girl who is a 7 or above she puts up auto defence

I remember being on the west coast of the USA and girls were fine to talk, there was no problem, would chop it up, its a respect embalance thing.

I feel sorry for guys who have not had the opportunity to travel. i have seen adverts about mens mental health recently in the UK i can understand why, i personally think its down to a lack of access to free mutual sex.

i knew a guy years ago who was much older then me, hung himself over a girl, because she left him, the girl was just a low level hoodrat, i dont think he had an opportunity to see beyond the London wasteland which MANY have said can destroy your soul.

He is long gone now, but would have been fantastic for someone like that to see countries such as Latin America, in fact anyone thats feeling down about these women, just know that i was fucking women that looked like Halle Berry in her Prime in the dominican republic, the women that look like the ones in the music videos, and you can too, all you need to do is travel and see where it takes you.

London will destroy your soul if its all you know.

the girls i had in D.R were beautiful so it makes no sense to respect these london girls, in Latin America they cook, they clean, they mop the floor, wash your clothes, and look better, and they act FEMININE, london girls can be masculine
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Fuck that place. The arrogance of those women. I shudder at the thought of finding a wife in such a place. I mean you can, as the numbers are in your favor. To be honest, I'd approach immigrants. British born? Pfft, forget it. The juice ain't worth the squeeze. These girls have so many options and they know it. Seriously, fuck that place. If you're an average dude, you'll be fighting for scraps.

"Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you"
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(02-20-2017 02:16 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  Fuck that place. The arrogance of those women. I shudder at the thought of finding a wife in such a place. I mean you can, as the numbers are in your favor. To be honest, I'd approach immigrants. British born? Pfft, forget it. The juice ain't worth the squeeze. These girls have so many options and they know it. Seriously, fuck that place. If you're an average dude, you'll be fighting for scraps.


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I actually look late twenties/early thirties. With some of the black chicks I was in a business outfit (smart shirt and trousers) which I think explains a bit why they oriented the discussion to money but with others I was dressed casual.

I usually avoid girls who are 22 years old as I like when a woman has some experience and some perspective in life. All the girls I had here were between 29 and 44 and all had good bodies except the british one ( I said above their background).

The 2 I am seeing currently are 38 ( born and raised in Brasil, on the chubby side but super horny and kind) and 44 (mixed british/carribean, has 2 kids and I can tell you she is incredibly beautiful and classy. She is tall, has fair skin, a very pretty face and a thin body. Whenever she visits me men stare at her in my building).

When they get older they just want a simple relation, they only require kindness and honesty which Is also what I like.
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@Lino

Thats interesting, between the ages of 29 and 44 im suprised they had the money mentality, i have very little experience with this age group. I thought at that age they would realise they are not PRIME material. but it would depend on how attractive the girl is, some of the canary wharf workers are some of the best from what i seen.

The brazilian make sense, the 44 y/o mum sounds like a good catch, at that age like you say i imagine they just want something stable with 1 man.

I actually look forward to that period (being late 30s and early 40s), a lot of the beautiful women now should be easy pickings in about 10-20 years, there kids will be grown up and be easy pickings, a lot of girls who i didnt bang in my late teens i got to bang them around 25-28, when there value decreased a bit.

Im very early 30s, as you get older, i get wiser and more patient, creating a foundation of wealth and passive income is the primary focus.

It will allow me to travel and create the structure for the long term. when im in London it will give me the harem set up., which i can change at will. Im no longer playing for the short term gratification.
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The girl that said- "If you wanna make me happy buy me Louboutin"

she sounds immature, i would expect that of a 18-24 year old. What a cheek. and shes 29-44 i thought they grew out of that stuff. The game must be worse than i thought
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(02-20-2017 03:00 PM)giama Wrote:  Im very early 30s, as you get older, i get wiser and more patient, creating a foundation of wealth and passive income is the primary focus.

It will allow me to travel and create the structure for the long term. when im in London it will give me the harem set up., which i can change at will. Im no longer playing for the short term gratification.

This is very smart, it is also my state of mind, even though I started later. I am staying in London just because of my goal, which isn't related to pussy.

Regarding the girls between 29 and 44, I was talking about the women I slept with, not all the chicks I have interacted with. All the gold diggers were way younger, except the eastern european. I noticed no matter what age they are they still chase money.
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And don't get me started on when they go out on a Hen do.It's disgusting how you see fatties wearing short dresses, showing off their chunky and wobbly tighs, no pantyhose, zero class , stumbling drunk on the streets wearing heels they don't know how to wear and how to walk with them. Usually (as it's the case when they go to party as well, just get on the underground near midnight) you'll see them with their other girl friends (groups of 3 or more) talking obnoxiously loud and should you try to talk to them, her friends will gladly cockblock you.
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RE: London
Solid data guys!

So how do you crack the Hipster early to mid 20s market. Is day game the only way ? The clubbing girls obviously has extreme bitch shields on but how do you go after the 8s who are more social hangout pub girls as opposed to clubs? How do you run the social circle games. Are there events, get togethers etc you can rsvp on websites ?

Thanks
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London meet up next month, details: /thread-35130...pid1513657
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(02-20-2017 12:14 PM)giama Wrote:  10 years ago the game was different.

The 43 year old finance guy who earns £200k a year and lives in fulham, could not chat up the beautiful 22 year old sales worker from the council estate in Edmonton.

The 45 year old rich guy from Nigeria, who travels extensively, couldnt chat up the beautiful 19 y/o selfridges worker from Battersea.

But there is internet sites that connect these people up. Prior to the internet i imagine it would have been very hard and socially awkward for these sets to match up.

This has an effect on the dating options for regular hook ups, if there was tens of thousands of 8s then it wouldnt have much effect, but london does not have as many 8s, so i believe it has an effect on anyone focused on quality.

My theory is this, Im going to give you some insight on a girl im good friends with, who would probably be considered a 6.5-7.5 by most but is very curvacious which is her main sex appeal

Shes fun fucking a couple guys with paper, that treat her. She has another guy who shes madly in love/lust with.

So shes probably sleeping with 3 guys currently, 2 rich guys, and 1 guy she really likes.
So there is no space for her to be fun fucking the guy that has some game that she met in a club, she knows that will mess up her time with the 2 rich guys. Unless the new guy she meets replaces the 1 guy she really likes.

Lets just assume all 8s and 9s (if not in a LTR) have a rotation of 3 dicks, 2 are rich dicks, and 1 dick is the guy she really likes but that guy is not trying to wife. When she goes out she will only add you to her rotation if your her (a)- picture perfect man, or (b), a rich dick.

Im talking about the top notch women, not 5s and 6s.
10 years ago i imagine the top notch women didnt have access to rich dicks so easily and were given more regular guys a chance. more fun fucking. Theres no incentive anymore, they know they cant fuck a guy everyday or manage another guy so they prioritise. That results in the not interested/up there ass attitude that many complain about from London girls

A while back, I tried to work out whether it was indeed worse in London or England for males than it is in certain other countries or places. The reason being, if any myths could be checked out, you could decide whether London is actually worth any time.

I used to live in London and found it sometimes good, and often poor. At the time, I didn't have lots of money, so that worked against me. Now I've left there, succeeded in work, I think I'd find it a lot easier. But I would certainly avoid many places and many demographics.

If you want to fuck, then its not that hard there. Problem is, most guys are gonna get 6.5s or lower. 7s are hard, and 8s are ultra hard unless you have other things in your favour.

My theory is that its down to how males and females are rated, according to themselves and the opposite sex.

For instance London has a lot of guys in cool jobs (eg TV), or well paid jobs. Or the guys have inherited/trust fund money at 22 years, or have lived there for life and have a terrific, loyal social network (male and female). The guys may be looks/fashion obsessed - mixing with or working in "the model/fashion crowd". The expensive private school crowd have ways of working things in their favour too. Guys are now into exercise in a big way. When I was a kid, men weere either skinny, skinny fat, athletically slim, fat, or muscular but with fat on too. Nowadays they can get muscular without the extra fat. That was rare back then tho. And the key aspect is, to women, a mixture of these things can get a man a 10 rating. He can be 18 years old, or 49, or even older. And a high ranking man, to a woman can be skinny or muscular, or just "normal" looking eg if he's got something cool about himself.

But what gets a woman an 8, 9, 10 rating? Pretty much just looks and youth. It doesn't matter that she has a cool job, a trust fund, money. And she drops down the rankings if she's a "hot older lady".

So while we might think that an equal number of male and female 10s exist, once its broken down, its clear that the female 8 to 10s are heavily outnumbered by the male 8 to 10s. Even looking at the age aspect alone, the 18 to 30 yrs girl is the target of men from 18 yrs to... who knows? Somewhere in his 50s or 60s?

Guys won't necessarily lust after a slim 45 year old former catwalk model in TV work, with a trust fund and a 3m penthouse. But the male reciprocal of that will need to beat the women off with a shitty stick.

Then there are other demographic aspects. Less young people, more older people. The hot Poles you saw in the day etc are probably working in a bar on Fri/Sat night. And the wealthy Muslim/Hindu etc males are out pulling, but the Muslim females are more likely NOT! Likewise with Orthodox Jews, wealthy Africans etc. Hot women might be off the market because they are hookers. Whereas the male "equivalent" of that occupation is a dealer who is aiming to pull left, right and centre.

And London is RIDICULOUSLY expensive compared to most of the World. It fosters the most obnoxious, greed filled bad attitude imaginable. I've seen scrawny old men fight each other to get through a door first for a meeting. So its no surprise the hot women or plain ones can end up such skanks.

Back when I was there, I found London women just a bit plain, not bad looking. Some were a bit out of shape, some were vacuous, others greedy, some were nice. Some were quite corporatised. They just weren't the sort I'd want to settle down with. There seemed to be far better available in other places.

PS its interesting that some with the most upbeat views of London seem to be from visitors. Maybe they feel there's something "exotic" about London and give the women higher rankings? Maybe its because women want a foreign man? Maybe its something to do with women not being able to test out the man's social circle/perceived value eg income?
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Would you say Soho is the best place to stay in London?
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definitely an inbalance, i remember at times in east london i would go weeks without seeing a 7

you made some good points, its tilted. And yes guys are really gyming and getting in fantastic shape to deal with 5s and 6s.

SMV (Sexual market value) really is a market, supply and demand.

a lot of guys with money in London, a good amount of gym obsessed guys and its not known as a city to be swarming with beautiful women.

You could not even begin to compare the quality of women to cities like Miami, Los Angeles, Rio, Medellin, Santiago (DR)

On average in London i would say a guy 7 goes with a female 5.5 (as a average) (theres almost a 1.5 trade off due to the market conditions)
So this deficit plus the London Culture doesnt help: Alcohol, lots of fast non quality food, lack of sun, the need to stay in doors for a lot of winter months, this has a negative effect on peoples bodies. But as we know guys are more active then women in London. Power League, Gym etc etc, where as some women are not staying active.

I personally dont get involved in any trade offs with 1.5 deficits. Like most of my male friends have.
I just focus on self development and the next holiday.
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(02-23-2017 02:44 PM)giama Wrote:  definitely an inbalance, i remember at times in east london i would go weeks without seeing a 7

Was that in the 80's or are you blind? Every time I visit Westfield, I see tons of hot girls. I think some guys on here should write less and approach more.

Too much theory and misleading information in this thread.

In addition, being in London where age does not matter and fucking 44 y.o women is just misery.
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Drop info or stop posting, it's simple.

There are 44 y o women probably hotter than most of the chicks you picked in your life but that would be another topic.

Cheers.
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(02-24-2017 03:40 AM)apolis Wrote:  
(02-23-2017 02:44 PM)giama Wrote:  definitely an inbalance, i remember at times in east london i would go weeks without seeing a 7

Was that in the 80's or are you blind? Every time I visit Westfield, I see tons of hot girls. I think some guys on here should write less and approach more.

Too much theory and misleading information in this thread.

In addition, being in London where age does not matter and fucking 44 y.o women is just misery.

I don't think he's saying London is terrible. Getting sex isn't hard at all. But what is skewed is chances with the hottest women vs well presented men.
The other big cities in England are just better for good looking, youngish guys who don't have big money, mega social circles etc.

Ofcourse, shopping centres is where you'll see the hot young babes. You might find it harder spotting them in the "meat markets" ie pulling bars and clubs tho! If you walk round Chelsea, Notting Hill, Bond St etc etc, you'll see the most stunning women in the World. But will the average income, good looking 20 something guy with top game get them? Its far harder than in Manchester, Bristol, Birmingham etc.


(02-23-2017 02:44 PM)giama Wrote:  definitely an inbalance, i remember at times in east london i would go weeks without seeing a 7

you made some good points, its tilted. And yes guys are really gyming and getting in fantastic shape to deal with 5s and 6s.

SMV (Sexual market value) really is a market, supply and demand.

a lot of guys with money in London, a good amount of gym obsessed guys and its not known as a city to be swarming with beautiful women.

You could not even begin to compare the quality of women to cities like Miami, Los Angeles, Rio, Medellin, Santiago (DR)

On average in London i would say a guy 7 goes with a female 5.5 (as a average) (theres almost a 1.5 trade off due to the market conditions)
So this deficit plus the London Culture doesnt help: Alcohol, lots of fast non quality food, lack of sun, the need to stay in doors for a lot of winter months, this has a negative effect on peoples bodies. But as we know guys are more active then women in London. Power League, Gym etc etc, where as some women are not staying active.

I personally dont get involved in any trade offs with 1.5 deficits. Like most of my male friends have.
I just focus on self development and the next holiday.

Yes I think working/lower middle class men tend to be far more in shape than their female counterparts. This is changing tho, with the advent of so many cheap gyms starting to appear. ALso SJW-ism doesn't help. Fatness and sloth being "celebrated" etc Just look at that "bikini body ready" advert that got banned from the Tube by lunatics!

There's other issues to consider for LOndon.

1)Good luck if you dream of moving here and finding an "English rose" ie classic pale faced beauty. White Londoners account for just 44% of London's 8m or so people, according to "official stats". White people overall account for just 54% of London. ANd that doesn't include the large numbers of unrecorded residents from the EU or worldwide. Furthermore, the younger the age group, the less white Brits you will find. In some boroughs, its over SEVENTY percent nonwhite amongst the 18 to 25 age group! Now in terms of fucking, I like some ethnic groups - Orientals, mixed race blacks, Slavs, Latinos. But the main non white ethnic groups will be Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Indian, Nigerian and fully West Indian etc. I've got friends from these groups, some of them v good friends. But South Asian, Nigerian women and the like just don't tend to appeal to me sexually. Firstly on appearance, and also often due to cultural compatibility. As one example, wealthy Muslims date white women. But Muslim women are unlikely to date or readily fuck white Christian guys, atleast in my findings. Its the same with Hindus and certain African groups etc. So again, it really shows the statistical aspect.

2)Property prices are through the roof. Look what £800k gets you in Ldon. An average apartment sometimes. £500k gets you a fantastic home (mansion) in other British cities. Even formerly shit areas have become expensive and "cool". (Notting Hill used to be slums!) Now some guys make money young and quickly. But a key factor is inherited money and the private school (called "public school" for some unknown reason) network. Add ontop, the international wealthy kids - Arab, Chinese, Russian and everywhere else.

So London is becoming a place for rich or poor, with no middle ground. Bits are like Monaco, bits are like that hideous programme "Brideshead Revisited". And bits are almost like Lagos or Mumbai. Go to West London (fairly expensive area!) and you'll actually see tin shacks illegally erected in the gardens to house lots of migrant workers.

3)Its the epitomy of the globalist and the liberalist culture. Now some may like that, others won't. In some ways, its more extreme than the US, in some ways less so. If you are coming from elsewhere, that may be a culture shock to you. I've lost count of the times I've had to say "she isn't my partner, she is my girlfriend, partner refers to homosexuals".

4)London isn't like Manhattan. It shouldn't be considered a unified whole.
A newcomer will do better if they try and settle into a particular area and circle. For instance, Camden for the music scene. It takes a lot of time to go right across London, so social ties will often be strained/weaker if they mean lots of travel. Newcomers should also consider the wider areas. For instance, Essex is where working class East End Londoners often originally came from. You also have lots of nice areas to commute into central London from. The trick is to use your commute time productively on laptop/smartphone/with your mrs or whatever. Because 2 hrs a day of boring void can get VERY draining. Ofcourse living outside the centre has merits and demerits. Younger, unattached people would very likely prefer living centrally.

5)One thing newcomers should not underestimate is the power of "old boy networks" (thats old boys of v high priced private schools) in certain business and cultural sectors. If you care about progressing on merit you may find this very frustrating. Ofcourse its no different to racial discrimination, but I don't think a single legal case has ever been won in Britain on "social class discrimination". Youcould even find the same thing with your own business and applying for tenders etc. I saw how quickly a private school relative of mine became rich and it was one of the reasons I decided I'd had enough of London in my 20s.

6)From the above, it may sound that I utterly hate London. I don't.
I'd had enough of it in my 20s, but now I am considering moving back. Being older, more streetwise, with more money I could make it work for me. London has some terrific plus points. For many people, it can be the most wonderful place in the World! Work wise, it really can be a centre of the World. And if you have niche hobbies/interests you can often find LOTS of people just like you. So ironically, one of London's main benefits is entirely unrelated to career and material things. For instance if you love drama, or photography or some niche sport, you could probably find a vibrant group to do that with every night of the week. Good luck trying that in most other cities! Likewise, there's always different ways to become the "best version of you". It could be as a barman in a posh cocktail bar, a bouncer in a club in Knightsbridge, an artist living on a canalboat. Whatever, you don't need to be an Old Etonian at Goldman Sachs, or an Arab property speculator. Just understand the statistics, understand the dynamics of the place.

You need to treat social stuff and pussy seriously, a little like a career if you want to succeed in London. Don't think "it will just happen". You don't want to become another robot, dragged along in the tide. So to me, THAT is the secret.
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02-24-2017 05:35 AM
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RE: London
London is full of women... simply full. There are millions of them! You can swipe on tinder all day for a week and not run out of girls to swipe! Yes many are ugly but that's cos every single girl in the city is on there so of course there will be uglies... it's just Maths!

So yes, only a small proportion of this huge number will be hot - this is the same all over the world, except perhaps slavic countries which has disproportionately hotter women.

You have to sift through the dross to find the hot ones... hence why a lot of guys talk about how ugly the women in London are. Sorry not true... some of the hottest chicks in the world gravitate to the city.

So where are they Boris, I hear you cry?

Let me tell you....

They are at:

Project Club
Maddox Club
Mayfair Bar
Toy Room
Charlies

Just as a small selection (check my recent data sheet, there are many more)

These clubs are all within 10 mins walking distance of each other, you have no excuse not to visit them on a Friday or Saturday. Find a wing, put on a blazer and a shirt, go there, and if you still think there are no hot women in London, then frankly you must be blind!

OK so let's say you failed to get into any of the above clubs (if you can't get into a single one then THAT is probably your problem and explains why you fail to get laid in London but I digress...) then go a little further down the scale...

Go on to the Sintillate website (they are a promoter, google it, I have no affiliation with them BTW) and get on the guestlist for one of their events. They hold them every weekend, they currently do a Saturday night at 100 wardour street which is great. You will need to email them to be on the list but there will be no hassle getting in once you are on the list.

Again, go there and tell me there are no hot women and frankly I will laugh in your face. These events are full of essex girls, high heels short skirts, fake tans, totally DTF. Sintillate post pictures of all their events on their website - look at a recent gallery and tell me there are no hot women... are you mad? Here, I've even done it for you... have a look:

https://www.sintillate.com/photos/london...h-feb-2017

If you can't pull here guys... frankly you are not gonna pull anywhere.

Oh and as regards daygame... just forget it! Girls in UK don't like being approached by creepy guys in the street sorry... this is a developed country not Ukraine! Get a friend, go to some bars and chat to women.

Rant over...
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They all call London the capital of day game . I would think that's because nightlife is shitty.
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RE: London
My preference has always been higher end clubs. London has lots of them. Here's a few, I've been in at various times.

Dstrkt
Boujis
Tramp
Buddha Bar
Cirque le Soir
Project
Tramp
Mahiki
Novikov

They won't be everyone's cup of tea.
They are expensive, and yes there are some gold diggers. But you'll find very hot women and good ratios. So I consider that infinitely better value than a sweaty place with cheap beer and masses of shitfaced guys.
You also have to negotiate the members/guest list booking issues etc
Things do change rapidly with bars and clubs, so its best to get up to date information.


Now the above places might not be for everyone. It really pays to choose somewhere suitable for you to live in London and also seek out the best places fairly near there for pulling, and also just social mingling.
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And these very hot women are attainable? There shouldn't be people complaining on here then.
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Whats up London Guys, so the weather is picking up marginally, how is everything going with the co-operation levels from the females/

What have you been working on in terms of self improvement? Physique, new wardrobe, day gaming, night game. whats recent observations or experiences.

As much as i am not a fan of London, reality is have to deal with what we have here as its a world class city for business, which should be everyones goal. So making the best of it.

Personally, I been working on physique, 18 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks, lean growth, no dirty bulk. Feel like im in the top 8-10% physically in the city now.
(6'4, 245 pounds good shoulders, back, looking solid) Noticing a lot of IOI since the muscle gain but as per usual dont see many high quality women per month in east london.

Working on a new wardrobe.

You really have to dial up everything to get chosen here, you really have to get in championship shape to secure something of reasonable quality. Women have it great here. When im in this physical shape, quality women in the states women actively choose at this point, so will be interesting the next few weeks when i come across some quality and see how the interactions play out in London.

One thing i have been working on is having an approachable and friendly vibe as possible.
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