(02-24-2017 03:40 AM)apolis Wrote: (02-23-2017 02:44 PM)giama Wrote: definitely an inbalance, i remember at times in east london i would go weeks without seeing a 7
Was that in the 80's or are you blind? Every time I visit Westfield, I see tons of hot girls. I think some guys on here should write less and approach more.
Too much theory and misleading information in this thread.
In addition, being in London where age does not matter and fucking 44 y.o women is just misery.
I don't think he's saying London is terrible. Getting sex isn't hard at all. But what is skewed is chances with the hottest women vs well presented men.
The other big cities in England are just better for good looking, youngish guys who don't have big money, mega social circles etc.
Ofcourse, shopping centres is where you'll see the hot young babes. You might find it harder spotting them in the "meat markets" ie pulling bars and clubs tho! If you walk round Chelsea, Notting Hill, Bond St etc etc, you'll see the most stunning women in the World. But will the average income, good looking 20 something guy with top game get them? Its far harder than in Manchester, Bristol, Birmingham etc.
(02-23-2017 02:44 PM)giama Wrote: definitely an inbalance, i remember at times in east london i would go weeks without seeing a 7
you made some good points, its tilted. And yes guys are really gyming and getting in fantastic shape to deal with 5s and 6s.
SMV (Sexual market value) really is a market, supply and demand.
a lot of guys with money in London, a good amount of gym obsessed guys and its not known as a city to be swarming with beautiful women.
You could not even begin to compare the quality of women to cities like Miami, Los Angeles, Rio, Medellin, Santiago (DR)
On average in London i would say a guy 7 goes with a female 5.5 (as a average) (theres almost a 1.5 trade off due to the market conditions)
So this deficit plus the London Culture doesnt help: Alcohol, lots of fast non quality food, lack of sun, the need to stay in doors for a lot of winter months, this has a negative effect on peoples bodies. But as we know guys are more active then women in London. Power League, Gym etc etc, where as some women are not staying active.
I personally dont get involved in any trade offs with 1.5 deficits. Like most of my male friends have.
I just focus on self development and the next holiday.
Yes I think working/lower middle class men tend to be far more in shape than their female counterparts. This is changing tho, with the advent of so many cheap gyms starting to appear. ALso SJW-ism doesn't help. Fatness and sloth being "celebrated" etc Just look at that "bikini body ready" advert that got banned from the Tube by lunatics!
There's other issues to consider for LOndon.
1)Good luck if you dream of moving here and finding an "English rose" ie classic pale faced beauty. White Londoners account for just 44% of London's 8m or so people, according to "official stats". White people overall account for just 54% of London. ANd that doesn't include the large numbers of unrecorded residents from the EU or worldwide. Furthermore, the younger the age group, the less white Brits you will find. In some boroughs, its over SEVENTY percent nonwhite amongst the 18 to 25 age group! Now in terms of fucking, I like some ethnic groups - Orientals, mixed race blacks, Slavs, Latinos. But the main non white ethnic groups will be Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Indian, Nigerian and fully West Indian etc. I've got friends from these groups, some of them v good friends. But South Asian, Nigerian women and the like just don't tend to appeal to me sexually. Firstly on appearance, and also often due to cultural compatibility. As one example, wealthy Muslims date white women. But Muslim women are unlikely to date or readily fuck white Christian guys, atleast in my findings. Its the same with Hindus and certain African groups etc. So again, it really shows the statistical aspect.
2)Property prices are through the roof. Look what £800k gets you in Ldon. An average apartment sometimes. £500k gets you a fantastic home (mansion) in other British cities. Even formerly shit areas have become expensive and "cool". (Notting Hill used to be slums!) Now some guys make money young and quickly. But a key factor is inherited money and the private school (called "public school" for some unknown reason) network. Add ontop, the international wealthy kids - Arab, Chinese, Russian and everywhere else.
So London is becoming a place for rich or poor, with no middle ground. Bits are like Monaco, bits are like that hideous programme "Brideshead Revisited". And bits are almost like Lagos or Mumbai. Go to West London (fairly expensive area!) and you'll actually see tin shacks illegally erected in the gardens to house lots of migrant workers.
3)Its the epitomy of the globalist and the liberalist culture. Now some may like that, others won't. In some ways, its more extreme than the US, in some ways less so. If you are coming from elsewhere, that may be a culture shock to you. I've lost count of the times I've had to say "she isn't my partner, she is my girlfriend, partner refers to homosexuals".
4)London isn't like Manhattan. It shouldn't be considered a unified whole.
A newcomer will do better if they try and settle into a particular area and circle. For instance, Camden for the music scene. It takes a lot of time to go right across London, so social ties will often be strained/weaker if they mean lots of travel. Newcomers should also consider the wider areas. For instance, Essex is where working class East End Londoners often originally came from. You also have lots of nice areas to commute into central London from. The trick is to use your commute time productively on laptop/smartphone/with your mrs or whatever. Because 2 hrs a day of boring void can get VERY draining. Ofcourse living outside the centre has merits and demerits. Younger, unattached people would very likely prefer living centrally.
5)One thing newcomers should not underestimate is the power of "old boy networks" (thats old boys of v high priced private schools) in certain business and cultural sectors. If you care about progressing on merit you may find this very frustrating. Ofcourse its no different to racial discrimination, but I don't think a single legal case has ever been won in Britain on "social class discrimination". Youcould even find the same thing with your own business and applying for tenders etc. I saw how quickly a private school relative of mine became rich and it was one of the reasons I decided I'd had enough of London in my 20s.
6)From the above, it may sound that I utterly hate London. I don't.
I'd had enough of it in my 20s, but now I am considering moving back. Being older, more streetwise, with more money I could make it work for me. London has some terrific plus points. For many people, it can be the most wonderful place in the World! Work wise, it really can be a centre of the World. And if you have niche hobbies/interests you can often find LOTS of people just like you. So ironically, one of London's main benefits is entirely unrelated to career and material things. For instance if you love drama, or photography or some niche sport, you could probably find a vibrant group to do that with every night of the week. Good luck trying that in most other cities! Likewise, there's always different ways to become the "best version of you". It could be as a barman in a posh cocktail bar, a bouncer in a club in Knightsbridge, an artist living on a canalboat. Whatever, you don't need to be an Old Etonian at Goldman Sachs, or an Arab property speculator. Just understand the statistics, understand the dynamics of the place.
You need to treat social stuff and pussy seriously, a little like a career if you want to succeed in London. Don't think "it will just happen". You don't want to become another robot, dragged along in the tide. So to me, THAT is the secret.