Posted a version of this in the "I-Just-Got-Laid"/ "Plus-Notch" thread, but thought it'd be cool to share here.
+2 for 2017, 18th notch. 28yo Latina in building, about 4 years older than me. Face a 5, body a 6, but she fucked pretty well. SO much LMR. Said "she wasn't ready" probably like 10 times. I plowed through that. The language was reminiscent of some of the LMR & "shit-tests" I've heard here. It was amusing.
Met her for the first time 8 days ago outside my building. We hung out once before, and during the encounter I made sure to touch her leg and stroke it slightly. Also was in my apartment & we watched TV - seems I built up "comfort"
Lessons:
1) go to physical contact in some form, specifically the thighs, ASAP - before going in for the kiss with all but one new girl I've banged over the past 18 months, I've done some form of thigh touch/stroking, even if I didn't go for the kiss on that particular instance. The "rejection sting" of getting my hand brushed away doesn't bother me as much as getting a kiss rejected.
2) Lol LMR - I've really let SJW rape culture influence my hesitation when it comes to pushing through the "objections" of women. Goodness knows how much pussy I've missed out on by stopping at the first no. If the no is not a hard, forceful no, then it's a maybe. Unless the chick is completely trashed, then circumstances might be different.
2nd notch after losing my 2016-TR two months ago, both of whom fucked better than said 2016-TR. Fourth girl I've gotten to 1st base or farther with since then.
1) go to physical contact in some form, specifically the thighs, ASAP - before going in for the kiss with all but one new girl I've banged over the past 18 months, I've done some form of thigh touch/stroking, even if I didn't go for the kiss on that particular instance. The "rejection sting" of getting my hand brushed away doesn't bother me as much as getting a kiss rejected.
In my game all erogenous zones can accomplish this. I go for the low back. Also getting her to invest touching in you is what its really about IMO--Placing her arms around your shoulders or around your waist. I read somewhere that peer bonding occurs for the person when they do something for/to someone else instead of receiving--I interpret this as getting her to touch your erogenous zones. Your ass is a good one for this. Ill grab a girls ass and tell her some shit about how its only right if she grabs mine and then i'll take her hand and place it on my ass.
Ive recently started dabbling with my legs touching her legs with seating, I'm pleased with having added it to my game.
Another thing I picked up on from my blue pill days was a date I went on I was holding this girls hand and when we parted ways she did this lingering touch thing where she was pulling away but still trying to hold on. I make all of my touches like that now.
Touch your partner anyplace — arm, leg, back, hand, face — and as you remove your hand from their skin, slow down and let your fingers trail off their body… let your fingers linger like you don’t want to let go because it feels so good.
Ever so slowly slide your fingers away like you are stuck to your partner with sticky taffy or molasses.
Notice every second of what their skin feels like on your fingers. Become aware of the magnetic attraction that your hands have for their body.
Touch them like you can’t get enough of that wonderful feeling. Perhaps even get in a little last second squeeze before your fingers ever so slowly trail off.
#of chicks approached * time you spend rapping. Call it "woman hours"
Keep in mind she's been getting approached since puberty, all day every day. So she has an insurmountable lead in her "man hours" aka interaction time. Plus she's been trained to deal with these situations, and has optimized her look, as well as constantly sharing data about the state of play as a matter of course.
Two months into the new year. How's everyone progressing with the goals they've set?
Admittedly, I have not been exposing myself enough to capitalize on day, networking/professional/social game like I planned, but I know what I need to do though.
18th notch girl who lives in my building is amusing.
28, and is showing nearly all the signs of Roosh's female age breakdown.
Rejected my advances because "she's confused" and has "mostly been dating women for the past two years."
This was after another girl, my prior notch who I've been trying to plate, flaked on a plan to hang out this evening, but was down to "meet up to study." Needless to say I curved that.
Jesus - and now she's ranting about how her roommate, who is 29, has "issues with men" and how they are great roommates because they both never bring any guys home.
(02-17-2017 06:05 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote: And I quote - "I like you, and I can only have sex with people I don't like."
These are great situations to push your game forward.
to which you reply, "Good, I'm so fucking tired of pretending"
*emphasis on fucking*
When guys spit PUA game for cats to learn from this is the sequence
Approach/open
If opens - run attraction
If not open, try openers and 3
If not open on 3 then eject
But when a chick rejects you, when she's not testing you
- that is the time to say some shit YOU BEEN MEANING TO SAY FOR A LONG ASS TIME.
You have nothing to lose, everything to gain.
All them times you wondered.."What if..." - when a bitch rejects you - that's when you are free to say whatever the fuck you been meaning to say.
"Damn girl, and I was really trying to suck on them titties tonight. "
You don't say this shit because you're trying to turn the shit around - you're trying to LEARN.
What happens when I really cut loose?
How do chicks react to me, when I really keep it as fucking real as I want to keep it, instead of pussy footing around.
Chances are - you were right - a chick might go off on you about being sexist - BUT - you're going to find that the "truth telling" will be one of the most cathartic things you can do for your game - in that you now know what happens.
(02-17-2017 06:59 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: ^Smells like nice guy syndrome on your part.
The girl isn't playing with all the marbles, is the juice worth the squeeze?
I just don't want a headache. If I bang again, I bang again, but the chance to plate has already been lost.
And yes, I'd say I have a fair case of "nice guy" syndrome. It's part of my charm though :/
Reminds me of this scene
I'm a "bad" guy but that doesn't mean I'm a bad guy.
Much like you're a "good" guy doesn't mean you're a good guy. It's all about frame of reference. Even goody two shoes with his sweatervest can have a mean streak or 2.
Is what it is. Should never let a girl think she has you figured out all the way.
(02-17-2017 04:28 PM)DimeBait Wrote: Two months into the new year. How's everyone progressing with the goals they've set?
Admittedly, I have not been exposing myself enough to capitalize on day, networking/professional/social game like I planned, but I know what I need to do though.
Finances are going somewhat well... Lots of new business. I just need one more large scale customer and ill be set for the year.
Behind on the majority of game goals - The only positive is that I lost 10 pounds over the last few months or so. I am within six pack range for the summer. I am back to my mid 20s weight.
- Behind on the gym. I could be making progress much faster but the dieting has worked wonders.
- Behind on the sleeve tattoo I wanted (Improving physical attraction)... I am trying to get an appointment with top artists in Europe and there seems to be a learning curve. I got some advice and hopefully next time I try to land an appointment when theres an opening I get in.
- No NEW notches for the year... just old/repeat ones. I need to clear out my whole lineup and breathe some fresh air into my shit. I am gonna look into that after German holidays are over. I got alot of girls that are not acting how I want them to act either. My lineup right now is like a car that turns over and runs but has engine problems. I am inches from going complete blackout on these chicks and starting from scratch.
- I have started playing around with Tinder a little but with pretty dismal results. I have managed to match with just 1 or 2 cute chicks but I really feel like I know what I need to do here.. its just a matter of doing it.
Lastly:
- I THINK I am starting to notice a pattern of what types girls in Germany are into black guys. They all seem to have a similar look. Its not like in the US where you can smell it from a mile away but some do seem to have a "look". Its not set in stone as I notice these girls also date white guys or dont like black guys at all (it is Germany after all) but there is something here I am investigating. Maybe it could increase closure.
Thats my mid 1st quarter game update. I guess I can't complain because finances are ok.
(02-17-2017 04:28 PM)DimeBait Wrote: Two months into the new year. How's everyone progressing with the goals they've set?
Admittedly, I have not been exposing myself enough to capitalize on day, networking/professional/social game like I planned, but I know what I need to do though.
I am pushing hard with my language acquisition (learning Spanish) and being more consistent about working out. I am pleased with my results. I would like to increase my lizard takedowns (which was discussed on the Archie pod). All I can do is align my elbow and let the shots fall as per correct form..
Anyone here wear chain necklaces? I always see black dudes with stylish chain necklaces when I'm going out. I need to up my fashion game because my clothing is too bland (Jeans and VNeck). Where are you buying the chain necklaces or other accessories?
(02-17-2017 06:05 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote: And I quote - "I like you, and I can only have sex with people I don't like."
These are great situations to push your game forward.
to which you reply, "Good, I'm so fucking tired of pretending"
*emphasis on fucking*
When guys spit PUA game for cats to learn from this is the sequence
Approach/open
If opens - run attraction
If not open, try openers and 3
If not open on 3 then eject
But when a chick rejects you, when she's not testing you
- that is the time to say some shit YOU BEEN MEANING TO SAY FOR A LONG ASS TIME.
You have nothing to lose, everything to gain.
All them times you wondered.."What if..." - when a bitch rejects you - that's when you are free to say whatever the fuck you been meaning to say.
"Damn girl, and I was really trying to suck on them titties tonight. "
You don't say this shit because you're trying to turn the shit around - you're trying to LEARN.
What happens when I really cut loose?
How do chicks react to me, when I really keep it as fucking real as I want to keep it, instead of pussy footing around.
Chances are - you were right - a chick might go off on you about being sexist - BUT - you're going to find that the "truth telling" will be one of the most cathartic things you can do for your game - in that you now know what happens.
Having fun with group in NYC attracts attention. When I was with a larger group of people, I saw women grabbing me and pushing me towards their friends. Said friends didn't jump on me though. I think I should have still looked at it as an opportunity.
The reports on night game being dead are somewhat discouraging to me, as they (somewhat) make me not want to try as hard as I should. Like while it's tangential, I spent a $10 shot on some chick who just walked away from me - perhaps I wasn't engaging enough, but still. Also, like, just after a certain time in NYC, I don't have success pulling. Like the chicks left are either immensely dismissive, or I've internalized "not being able to pull" at a certain time. The only "night game" girls I've gotten to another interaction ended at 1st base.
Part of me just wants to stop with night game, and just concentrate on having fun while going out at night & have attention come my way via that. I definitely think I would have better luck like that. But from there, it comes down to me being ok with being struck down infront of my friends.
I'm might be making excuses, but solo game in NYC seems hard. Night game pisses me the fuck off. It's the only place women have some sort of semblance of control in the world. It makes me somewhat angry.
Would really love to spearhead an NYC datasheet for African-American males. I want to be able to pull a ONS from NYC night game. I just think if you're not doing it as a group, you're screwed.
Unless y'all have suggestions. WIA - I somewhat tried your strategy with girls I know weren't interested in me, but said things that would fall under the "spammy faggot game" umbrella.