Post: #26

AxeMan

That is one of the most well thought out and written posts ever. Some of it is really applicable to Latin culture in general. Just straight props and well done.

Post: #27

Whoa, great work on the datasheet, man. Plan to use it on my Peru trip in a few weeks. Major kudos.

I want to hit up some other cities in Peru. Cuzco for sure, maybe go to Lago Titicaca or Iquitos, also Arequipa sounds underrated. Have you hooked up with chicks in these other cities? How do they compare with Lima chicas? Sounds like there are different reports on Cuzco, have you been?

I'm into mountain trekking and exploring, so any hints on destinations is appreciated.

Post: #28

This is one of the best datasheets I've read on this forum. A lot of it applies to most of Latin America and everything seems correct about Peru from what I remember from being there a couple years ago.

(11-28-2016 10:40 PM)AxeMan Wrote:  In Peru, machismo usually means that mothers favor and so coddle their sons, turning them into lame, entitled betas. These betas then go on to impose their own inadequacy-based neuroses on the women. So, in a land of machismo, where men are supposed to be strong, confident, etc., you have a lot of vaguely prickish, not-very-manly dudes who try to wheedle or beg their way into a girl’s coochie. Added to which, many of them are insanely jealous and insecure, and forbid their girlfriends to go out dancing or wear revealing clothes in the street. The result: many women are afraid to express their sensuality lest they look like sluts.

I didn't understand this when I first went to Latin America. I kept hearing talk of macho and machismo but I kept seeing guys that were small and not confident. It wasn't what I expected. Axeman describes it very well.

A lot of the girls in Latin America have had a physically abusive boyfriend in the past and the psychological issues that come with that territory. Gringos who understand how to make a girl comfortable can do well.

Some Latin guys are insecure about gringos and will try to undermine your game. They are not confrontational but they try to create problems in a passive aggressive way. There are also Latin guys that will go out of their way to try to help you with your game. Gay guys are discriminated against in this culture and a gringo being friendly and respectful to a gay guy can lead to very warm introductions to that gay guy's girlfriends.

(11-29-2016 03:10 AM)kazz Wrote:  Why did you stay there for several years if it was so bad, also your 'deep background' theories are very jaded, one sided and over the top to what i experienced, I also lived in lima; if you go to a place and look for the bad in it you will certainly find it, especially in a poor developing country. I guess we can all see things in different ways. Anyway no disrespect , I appreciate the write up. And guess it will help guys that have never been to a non western poor country before.

I am all for staying positive especially on this forum but I don't agree that Axeman was negative. I think he stated some harsh but accurate truths. I met Axeman a couple years ago and he is the type of guy who sees the best in Latin culture but accepts the worst.

I think there are times when you have to understand the negative aspects of a culture (or person, situation, etc.) in order to accept those negative aspects and then focus on the positive aspects.

Post: #29

This is one of the best datasheets I've seen. Amazing sociological analysis/perspective, having lived in Mexico/LatAm for several years this applies to Mexico as well. Kudos!

Post: #30

Excellent posts by O.P. and really good thread overall. I say easily the top two problems with Latin America are the generally horrible level of education and the serious confidence/trust issues, both in oneself and other people. This is, of course, a generalization, and there are many people from all Latin American countries, including some forum members, who do not have those negative characteristics. I would say that lack of quality of the women, outside of Argentina, is the third biggest problem, but I could see some guy or guys coming on here saying all women in Cali, Colombia are supermodels or better or something like that.

Post: #31

(11-29-2016 05:28 PM)Pointer Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 03:24 PM)zoom Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 11:09 PM)AxeMan Wrote:  4. White God Factor: There’s lots of talk on the forum about how all white guys need to do to get laid in Peru is show up. This is true—if you only want to bang shitty women.

In all my time in Peru, I’ve rarely seen a white dude with an amazing girl. Eighty, eighty-five percent, I’d say, are punching below their weight. It always happens: walking down the street, I’ll catch sight of a tall, good-looking, blue-eyed dude, and lo and behold, he’s with a chubster who’s a 5 at best. Maybe he’s into stubby girls with baby fat. Or maybe he had shitty results back in the States due to bad game, and then replicated those results in Peru.

This is true. In my four months total in Peru, I've seen it one time. A white foreigner with a girl in the 8 range. It's funny reading about guys going to Peru and banging X number of girls X days. You just know they are going to be sub-par girls from the internet.

This applies pretty much everywhere. I see it in Poland all the time.

Happens in the Philippines a lot too. Saw a lot of older white guys that could do a lot better. I think a lot of guys just latch on to the first girl that is younger than them that pays attention. If your game is bad at home, and your frame internally reflects that, you'll do poorly on the road. White God factor isn't a cure all.

Post: #32

(02-05-2017 08:19 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  I would say that lack of quality of the women, outside of Argentina, is the third biggest problem, but I could see some guy or guys coming on here saying all women in Cali, Colombia are supermodels or better or something like that.

Not all colombian chicks look as supermodels for sure, but Depends of your tastes, Maybe you can like "argentinas", But i have met tons of argentinas and they weren't impressive,
Also members and other people mention the overhyped of argentinas. Let's be honest, when people(latins and foreigners) talk about latinas, We imagine a hot colombiana or brasileña.

(02-05-2017 08:21 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  [quote='Pointer' pid='1453680' dateline='1480458526']
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4. White God Factor: There’s lots of talk on the forum about how all white guys need to do to get laid in Peru is show up. This is true—if you only want to bang shitty women.

Happens in the Philippines a lot too. Saw a lot of older white guys that could do a lot better. I think a lot of guys just latch on to the first girl that is younger than them that pays attention. If your game is bad at home, and your frame internally reflects that, you'll do poorly on the road. White God factor isn't a cure all.

It is not only the lack of game, It is the easiness of the process. Most of foreigners in Peru are the typical backpacker type, despite of that, they can bang a decent number of peruanas in the 4 to 6 range without much effort, just relying in the White God Factor.

The guys know that they can get better quality, but they don't want to put the effort and time. They play the swiping right mode and bang shitty peruanas and from what i notice, even a good number of forum members only focus their game in tinder, without any cold approach or daygame activity behind them.

In Fact, if We analize deeply, Maybe the white god factor is not a total cure, but in the mind of these guys, they are happy collecting notches and this factor is their everything.

Post: #33

^^^
I've spent plenty of time in both Colombia and Argentina. Although Argentina's quality is far from great, especially with the ever increasing immigration in Buenos Aires, it blows Colombia out of the water. I'm at a loss as to how it is even debatable. I will say that Colombia is much better than all Central American countries with the exception of Costa Rica, as I say Colombia is only slightly better than Costa Rica.

Post: #34

(02-05-2017 10:58 PM)Drix Wrote:  Let's be honest, when people(latins and foreigners) talk about latinas, We imagine a hot colombiana or brasileña.

Yep, or the fast-disappearing "thin Mexicana" type.

Quote:even a good number of forum members only focus their game in tinder, without any cold approach or daygame activity behind them.

Cold approach and the Peruanas magically become younger, thinner, and hotter.

ps The backpackers always seem dirty & sweaty.

Post: #35

Great analysis Axeman. This data sheet is right on the money.
Everything you said reminds me of my ex-Peruvian girlfriend. Never offered to pay for anything. Never said thank you. A cold fish in bed.
But physically she's a 8. Took her on vacation and dropped some serious bank. Paid for everything. She was studying law. I asked her why she chose law and her reply was that she didn't want to be "cheated" by other people.
Before me she dated an Australian, then after me, a local Peruvian, and now she's married to a New Zealander. Knew this was going to happen. She definitely liked foreigners and I had a feeling she was looking to get out of Peru.
But like Axeman said, the whole La Viveza Criolla thing was foreign to me at the time and totally took me by surprise. Even after we broke up, I would get occasional texts from her. Hell, she texted me after she got married and told me she was in town. Her subtle and devious tactic was trying to get me to reply and ask her if she wanted to meet up with me. Of course she would want to go out and have dinner and drinks and have me pay for it but she wouldn't do anything in return because she's a married woman now. So I just ignored her text and happily carried on living my life. I feel bad for her Kiwi husband.

Post: #36

(02-06-2017 04:48 PM)LostAwake Wrote:  Great analysis Axeman. This data sheet is right on the money.
Everything you said reminds me of my ex-Peruvian girlfriend. Never offered to pay for anything. Never said thank you. A cold fish in bed.
But physically she's a 8. Took her on vacation and dropped some serious bank. Paid for everything. She was studying law. I asked her why she chose law and her reply was that she didn't want to be "cheated" by other people.
Before me she dated an Australian, then after me, a local Peruvian, and now she's married to a New Zealander. Knew this was going to happen. She definitely liked foreigners and I had a feeling she was looking to get out of Peru.
But like Axeman said, the whole La Viveza Criolla thing was foreign to me at the time and totally took me by surprise. Even after we broke up, I would get occasional texts from her. Hell, she texted me after she got married and told me she was in town. Her subtle and devious tactic was trying to get me to reply and ask her if she wanted to meet up with me. Of course she would want to go out and have dinner and drinks and have me pay for it but she wouldn't do anything in return because she's a married woman now. So I just ignored her text and happily carried on living my life. I feel bad for her Kiwi husband.

I may very well have moved on as soon as I heard the part about the Australian before you.

Post: #37

(02-05-2017 08:21 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  ...
If your game is bad at home, and your frame internally reflects that, you'll do poorly on the road. White God factor isn't a cure all.

Being white is an advantage in Asia or Latin America. However, my results have improved drastically over the last 2 years, both in terms of quantity and quality of girls, but my skin color isn't any whiter than it was before.

Improvements in my appearance during the last 2 years:

* I've added muscle and lost fat by eating reasonably healthy, improving my sleep habits, following the training advice of elite trainers who share their advice for free on the Internet, etc.

* I've bought a lot of new clothes. I've been to the alterations shop at least 10 times to get my clothes altered so they fit well.

* I've changed hairstyles and get my haircut more frequently.

* I've experimented with at least 4 different styles with my facial hair.

* I've improved my grooming habits. I use vitamin e oil and coconut oil on my skin and hair. I brush, floss, and oil pull more often. I shave or trim body hair more often.

* I've added about 3/4 inch of height by buying dress shoes with heels. (I know there are elevator shoes that add several inches but I know style experts that don't recommend these shoes for a few reasons.)

* I've added about 3/4 inch of height by spending 1-2 hours per week in the gym working on mobility and posture. Obviously the main reason for spending all that time isn't to increase my height, but the extra 3/4 inch still helps.

7 bullet points and I haven't even mentioned game or logistics.

...

Short guys will claim they have a huge disadvantage. Latin and Asian guys will obsess about White God Factor. Tall guys will rationalize how being tall isn't an advantage. Older guys won't approach the young girl because they convince themselves she won't be interested in an older guy, but truthfully it is just a rationalization for not dealing with their approach anxiety.

Everyone wants to downgrade the advantages they were born with, i.e. appearance or height.

Everyone wants to claim all their success is due to the things they have improved, i.e. being jacked or their extensive knowledge of game.

All of this is just noise that is polluting your brain.

All of this is directly connected to insecurity and self-limiting beliefs.

Being positive and taking action is a game changer.