I agree with malo, I've been trying to match 6+ girls in tinder in Manila, got no luck so far. The same profile i use i got ton of matches in BKK.
Most girls in manila say No hookups (I'd say about 80%), Quality wise I think Manila is the worst city if you're looking for 6+. When a FAT FUCK sub 4-5 write no hookups, I just laugh my ass off, who wanna bang that shit anyway?

And not to mention Filipino cupid, Quality is super low too. I think online dating is DEAD in MANILA. I will try Night game and approaching in the malls....

^ They all write no hookups, don't take it seriously. Guys copy paste "hey babe wanna spend the night", that's their tinder game. So girls receive this a few times a day (at least). Even 4's receive it, since guys think they're a sure lay. I've seen "no hookups" in many countries. It's to try to push off the "hi let's fuck" copy paste creeps for the most part.

(01-14-2017 10:27 PM)scotian Wrote:  ^Cogen you can't have it all, easy pussy and cheap razors are getting harder and harder to find these days bro.

Smooth baby face while keeping the budget in check... who needs pussy?

(01-15-2017 09:13 AM)zyz Wrote:  I agree with malo, I've been trying to match 6+ girls in tinder in Manila, got no luck so far. The same profile i use i got ton of matches in BKK.
Most girls in manila say No hookups (I'd say about 80%), Quality wise I think Manila is the worst city if you're looking for 6+. When a FAT FUCK sub 4-5 write no hookups, I just laugh my ass off, who wanna bang that shit anyway?

And not to mention Filipino cupid, Quality is super low too. I think online dating is DEAD in MANILA. I will try Night game and approaching in the malls....

Translation: No hookups (for filipino guys. You will have to take me on 10 dates and if a white guy invites me to his hotel I will flake on you.)

Does anybody have experience hiring Filipinos, either in person or virtually for web/IT/call center etc jobs?

I'm most specifically interested in those whose English writing skills are better than an average native speaker but very interested to hear any stories.

I have experience and I recommend against hiring filipinos for any jobs that are really important. Put up a VERY specific ad up on upwork.com (formally odesk). Make sure you put an instruction like "use this for email title" at the bottom and you should screen out the worst ones who don't know how to follow directions but you're still going to have to heavily screen the rest.

Do you have any other nationality you'd recommend where you can find native level English writers and pay them a good wage in their currency which is still a fraction of minimum wage in UK, USA etc?

(01-19-2017 09:37 PM)the-dream Wrote:  Do you have any other nationality you'd recommend where you can find native level English writers and pay them a good wage in their currency which is still a fraction of minimum wage in UK, USA etc?

Many Western Europeans have very good English although not native, and work for lower rates than native speakers.

I know this because i was working as a writer in English when i started out online and could only get low level gigs despite a decent sized portfolio.

I think it depends on what they are writing. I find in cities in the US where cost of living is super low you can get college graduates that will rather work from home writing than serving coffee at starbucks. They do a good job simply because they really enjoy writing.

Just got back from 8 days in Cebu with another forum member ...banged 9 girls..7 came straight to hotel room from tinder 1 met in mall and went straight back to room and other was number close from Liv club...other forum member had similar results...

Funny thing was seeing 60yr old guys walking around the malls with hotter girls than I banged!

If anything Phils has gotten easier..anyone saying the opposite or struggling to get laid here needs to reasses their life...

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(01-19-2017 01:43 AM)the-dream Wrote:  Does anybody have experience hiring Filipinos, either in person or virtually for web/IT/call center etc jobs?

I'm most specifically interested in those whose English writing skills are better than an average native speaker but very interested to hear any stories.

Unless it's a really simple task with no thinking involved like copy/pasting I wouldn't hire a Filipino.

I hired one for a couple of months but ended up getting rid of her and paying more than double for someone from the UK.

It seemed like a good idea since they are native English speakers, but the best was I can describe it is to say 'the lights are on but nobody's home' - they speak English correctly and seem to understand what you are saying but as soon as they have to think about something a make a decision themselves, they are useless.

I know this is only a sample size of 1 but every time I call my bank call center (in Manila) it's the same kind of thing and winds me up every time lol

You hit the nail on the head slowpoke. Also remember that the ones working at the bank are college graduates. If you need data research filling spreadsheets and stuff like that you can't go wrong.

Great job Freddy!!

I was in Cebu twice last year and loved it both times. Girls are so sweet with nice dark little bodies. English levels are great. I used Filipinocupid and daygame and just killed it.

Congrats bro!!

Yea I noticed Filipinas are pretty slow

Like I never noticed this in any other countries but it happened a lot in the Philippines where cashiers couldn't do simple mental math to give me change

Or like I would give them more than the stated balance so that I wouldn't get a lot of coins and shit in return and they'd be bewildered

I noticed some conflicting reports on the Philippines but I have a theory I'd like to put out there for those on the ground. Duterte seems to be growing a global reputation as a questionable president that even my friends are mostly aware of. People have said the Philippines is starting to get harder but then I hear a report like one from Freddy kind of debunking it. I do think this definitely has to do with what guy is going down there but I'm wondering if Duterte continues to grow a reputation if the Philippines will kind of revert into being an easier country again? My theory is that he may scare some tourists away from the area creating less competition again. Any thoughts on this?

You guys are overthinking it. It's the Philippines. If you are white just show up and plow as many girls as you want as long as you have a little bit of common sense and know how to efficiently talk to multiple girls at the same time. I was here with Freddy and had the same results he had. I can also vouch for him that his post is legit.

I don't think the president is changing anything. If I met any girls out and had conversations with them I would ask what they think about him and then just repeat back what they said like it was my thoughts to avoid any political arugment (they all love him).

Last time I went to Cebu there was no uber. If you have a girl coming right over and don't want to be hassled with waiting or worry about her showing up late you can spend $1.50 to get her an uber and she won't take 1.5 hours taking a jeepney. I would say my results in Cebu are better than they were a few years ago.

I have a Filipino friend who grew up in Manila lives out of the country now in Asia. He has some game and I helped him pick his tinder pics out and told him some lines to use on girls. He told the girls he was Hawaiian and in the Philippines visiting on business and booked a place in BGC. He banged 5 girls in a weekend and they were all pretty cute (by filipina standards). If he can pull that off I can't see how anyone here can say the Philippines is hard now.

^ I'm in Cebu now as well.

I see no conflicting reports on this thread. To explain once again my initial rant a few pages ago, I came to PH with a lazy attitude, wanted to concentrate on work and "swipe and fuck with good quality girls" on the side without putting in too much effort.

That works much less for me here, it used to work much better a year ago, even better two years ago.

Once I changed my attitude, brushed up my game, and increased my in-field hours, I'm seeing results, with quality similar to the pics Freddy posted.

So to make a nuanced point clear and hopefully put an end to this specific debate:

"Be white and just show up" => No.

"Be white who looks like a male model and just show up" => Yes.

"I have good game so I'm slaying here more than in other places" => Yes.

"I'll fuck anything no matter how low the quality" => No prob, just show up.

"Duterte" => Irrelevant.

Hope this helps clear up a great mystery

I agree Malo. The hotter the girl is the more you have to try. I will add that I'm far from a male model and average looking but get laid no matter where I go. In the Philippines it's just way easier.

I finally got to meet a girl I've been chatting with on and off for over a year. She is the most beautiful women I have been with in Asia and spent two nights with me, but something about her was cold.

Even though she speaks perfect english, has a nursing degree and was going to graduate school she meets up with a married man in the morning 2-3 days/week to go for a 2 hour walk outside for "exercise".

He pays her 500 pesos for each walk. I asked if his wife knew about the walk and she replied, "I don't know, what does it matter? I'm not doing anything wrong." This is a guy she met of Cupid some time ago and is now married with a wife and child in Tagatay but he spends most of his time in Makati.

I imagine they do more than just walk and I wouldn't be surprised if she's a semi-pro of some kind. I was ready to rent a house and live with her until I found out about her "part-time job". It explains why she felt cold in bed, but what a beauty. Damn shame.

Those 60 year olds walking around with truly hot girls are probably paying for it in some way or another. I don't think the Phils or many other countries will ever be dead in that regard.

If Duterte keeps up with the killing he'll indirectly make things better for foreigners through thinning out the local male population and making legitimate money more valuable.

I doubt that it applies to your post if she told you that straight up and is just a funny coincidence but "walking" in the Philippines is a code word for having sex with a prostitute. There are various facebook groups and Tagalog message boards with names like "Makati Walks", "Cebu Walks" etc that are pimps and prostitutes selling their services and men looking for girls to "walk".

Onto,

Your assessment is spot-on. I actually had a very similar experience just last night with a girl. I was having dinner with her, and I was explaining to her in a very verbose way why I chose to leave America. (Selfie shit, consumer culture, zombies on iPhones, people who don't care about one another just $$$, etc etc.) Anyways, she said this to me: "It's ok, you don't have to explain. I already understand. I can see how you feel in your eyes and the way you speak about it."

I'd be lying if I told you a chill didn't run up my spine at that moment.

Anyways, most of the girls I slept with so far in the Phils have been sweet, caring girls, but the conversations have been pretty basic, mostly just me flirting with them and then fucking them an hour or two later. But with this girl, we talked about deeper shit, life, pain, experiences, values, etc. The date lasted about 8 hours in total. I had seriously started considering a mini-LTR with her, (I'd probably still fuck other girls, but make her #1). But all that changed when we had sex 6 hours into the date. She just started giving off the slut vibe. As I was fucking her, she said she wanted to feel my dick. I pulled out, she grabbed it, and made a comment like "Ok, just an average size." I'm not one to be insecure about my dick, as I know it is average, which is fine, but the comment just didn't fit in with the rest of the night.

After we finished having sex, she asked me several times if I wanted to see her again. I had already affirmed multiple times throughout the night (before sex) that I liked her a lot and looked forward to seeing her again. I knew since she asked this immediately after sex that she had been pumped and dumped by at least one foreigner before, which told me she was used to fucking on the first date. I asked her and she admitted that it had occurred with two British guys on different occasions.

Honestly this girl has an amazing personality. She's sweet, caring, deep, a good listener, knows how to cook, loves her family, etc etc. But I just can't get over her sluttiness. Not her past---that's not the issue. The issue is HOW her past affects her today. During sex she was just disconnected. She just emotionally wasn't there. Normally that isn't an issue to me, because most girls i'm only interested in fucking---but after spending six hours connecting with her, I really had expected the sex to be bonding, not just physical sensation. And it's a sad reality---she's been pumped and dumped and ridden the carousel for too long. I don't know how many guys she's been with---I'd guess maybe half a dozen---but it's clearly affected her ability to associate sex with bonding.

All this is a long way of saying the following:

Pinay girls are some of the sweetest, most caring, and loving girls you'll ever meet. But unfortunately, due partially to their tendency to wait until late to get married (not uncommon to meet girls who are 25 and just starting to date) and the Filipino guys tendency to cheat, coupled with the pillaging of these girls by foreigners----many of them are losing their ability to really connect with you on the deepest level. Which is just a shame, because they're such wonderful girls.

Resolute, Thanks for sharing your experience. I never expected this girl to be a pro of some kind. She never asked for money and she seemed normal, except when it came to physical intimacy. It was then you could sense something was off. Like she was damaged in some way. I could understand being pumped and dumped by a foreigner and being gun-shy, but this was a different kind of coldness that probably only comes with selling your body. That kind of thing must deaden the spirit in some way where she won't be able to be physically intimate with a man. Her hands were cold too.

It's been said, you have to get these girls early before they get ruined.

the-dream, thanks for sharing that. I never heard of it before.

If a girl compares you to other guys one way or another, to your face, that's a girl with issues in my book.

Girls normally try to hide their experiences with other guys, rather than openly share them with a new guy they're dating.

I'd go as far as immediately disconnect from girls who say statements on Tinder such as "Most guys here are.." "Guys here told me that.."

I end the conversation immediately.

If she's sleeping with guys for money, then at least that explains the behavior. If she's just a normal girl dating and behaves like that... that's some damaged attitude in my opinion.

(01-31-2017 02:08 AM)Onto Wrote:  She never asked for money and she seemed normal, except when it came to physical intimacy. It was then you could sense something was off. Like she was damaged in some way. I could understand being pumped and dumped by a foreigner and being gun-shy, but this was a different kind of coldness that probably only comes with selling your body. That kind of thing must deaden the spirit in some way where she won't be able to be physically intimate with a man. Her hands were cold too.

There are certainly different degrees of coldness and disconnection, and I wasn't trying to imply that being pumped and dumped and being a prostitute resulted in the same type of disconnection, but I do think it's important for guys who are visiting or considering visiting to be aware of this fairly common scenario with Pinay girls. That being, that they are often VERY sweet, warm, caring, affectionate----but at the end of the day, damaged from riding the carousel. It can be a mind fuck for guys coming from the West---at least it was for me. It was hard to wrap my head around the way these girls treated me and yet the damage they had sustained.

That said, despite these flaws, Pinays are still wonderful company even outside of the bedroom most of the time due to their general demeanor and sweet, caring personalities. Just don't get so caught up in her good treatment of you that you forget to screen for red flags----that was the moral of my story.

(01-31-2017 01:55 AM)Resolute Wrote:  I pulled out, she grabbed it, and made a comment like "Ok, just an average size." I'm not one to be insecure about my dick, as I know it is average, which is fine, but the comment just didn't fit in with the rest of the night.

She could have meant something else by saying that. Some of the girls here are so tiny that even an average cock is too big for them so she could have been worried that she couldn't fuck you if you had a huge cock. Either way whether she meant it or not she's a total slut.

The Philippines is not a place to fall for a chick. You can't make a hoe a housewife.