(01-15-2017 03:39 PM)augen sehen Wrote:  

(01-15-2017 02:40 PM)Teedub Wrote:  Pray to god AFD win in Germany and Front Nationale in France, and Sweden Democrats in Sweden.

Edit: And Wilders in the Netherlands. Would be truly incredible if all 4 win.

The AfD and the FN have women as their leaders. One has to be drinking gallons of Kool Aid if you think that'll solve anything. You can't send a woman to do a man's job. I'm sorry if that is not PC, but France, Germany and Sweden if they want to save themselves, have to elect MEN to do it.

Maybe Petry with AFD fits your description, but Marine Le Pen is a serious, serious deal. She's been groomed her entire life for politics. She's most likely high testosterone like Margret Thatcher. Joan of Arc was a good leader too, by all accounts.

Anyway:

The thing is a bit more complex.

It is true that Christianity was not responsible for the Western rise and the new civilization. It held back technology and science, but at least it gave us a basic ethical guideline and a belief that all life is precious.

The current nihilism of the West is based in constant anti-White and anti-Western propaganda that the Westerners have believed. Again part of that belief is easier imbued due to Christian guilt perception, but mostly it is utter mad guilt pushing that neither the Chinese nor the Japanese are willing to engage in.

Cultural identity can be based on something that is not religious, but it has to be based on something they are proud of. Chinese and Japanese are proud of their cultures and want to retain that. The majority of brainwashed women in the West as well as many men are willing to destroy Western countries because they lack any positive identity.

Nationalism is a reaction to that nihilism. But the globalists are several steps ahead anyway and the current Western populations won't surprise them with anything they do. The backlash with Brexit and Trump may have been stronger than anticipated, but it is not the end of their plans. It is just a setback. The Islamists are also just their pawns in the global game they play.

It is as someone put it well in the Venezuela thread - the high end prepper has enough gas in his private jet ready to fly away when shit hits the fan. You can always come back for the Western-Islamic world war if you wanna crack some skulls then.

It's interesting to note that quite a few of the websites that try to englighten people about the dangers of Globalism to sovereign nations (and indeed to the very survival of the West) are Christian websites or at least with a Christian influence.
Take this one for instance.
There's a serious amount of work and time put into this website, it's very extensive, and it would take some time to really inform oneself about the various players of Globalism and their ill conceived plans for the masses.
It's good to see that there are still some Christians out there with some red pill awareness who are not cucking for 'Refugees Welcome!' any chance they get, like most Christian based groups these days.
I have only recently (thanks to Alan Watt) begun to learn of how organisations like the CFR, the UN, the IMF, the EC, and pretty much any prominent NGO or think tank you could name, are all involved in shaping our futures, and to say they have nefarous intentions would be the understatement of the century.

(01-16-2017 03:37 PM)Parzival Wrote:  I disagree on that. Its not the believe in faith and religion. Values, tradition and moral have an influence by religion but look at Chinese or Japanese people, they carry a pride even that they are not Christian. Morale and Ethic has nothing do to with religion. The Christian faith is one of the weak. The Church did held back Europe in darkness. It was the age of enlightenment where people get rid of the dogmas of Church and religion that gave a strong push forward.
You can create a healthy society with values even without priest. I understand very clear that people need to believe something. When its not religion then it become SJW or something else that they will carry in their hands like a religion. What we lack is not the believe in religion. What we lack is the believe in ourselves. In our values and our way of life. No god will help you with that when you are weak in the inside. We lack politicians that care about the people. We lack judges that use the existing laws. We lack people that have a sense of tribe. They prefer the foreign over their own.

I'm not a big fan of the rise of nationalism. I see it very critical. The open society they talk about is just possible among equals. Not when we open the gates to the darkness.
With the rise of nationalism many ignorant people jump on the train. Backward people. Same with conservative people. They fear change, they fear the internet. Videos games are killer games for them. Its a pity that everything get black and white. On the one hand people that want back the 1950s and the other hand, people that want to erase the foundations of mankind for their multicultural and diverse society where they kill families and the individual.

Get real. The Enlightenment was mostly a failure. As the belief in God waned, WW1 and WW2 erupted dealing a death blow to the high culture of old Europe. Then whatever Christianity was leftover was finished off in the 60's with the new love bullshit, and all Europe has today is rampant whoredom, empty sanctimony, and no more will to survive.

Europe was created by Christ, and is dying without Him. It's pretty obvious. Read your history. Also nations could definitely be replaced by something better, like a Christian brotherhood via the internet or something.

(01-16-2017 08:57 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Get real. The Enlightenment was mostly a failure. As the belief in God waned, WW1 and WW2 erupted dealing a death blow to the high culture of old Europe. Then whatever Christianity was leftover was finished off in the 60's with the new love bullshit, and all Europe has today is rampant whoredom, empty sanctimony, and no more will to survive.

Europe was created by Christ, and is dying without Him. It's pretty obvious. Read your history. Also nations could definitely be replaced by something better, like a Christian brotherhood via the internet or something.

Nah - the churches were full to the brim in many countries right up until the 1960s. I remember seeing old movies from France where there was barely any room in many churches due to all the crowds pouring in.

Europe did well in a more secular system seperated from the religion. Christianity was still present. The process of disintegration came rather quickly and only in the last decades. The Catholic church even in the 1950s would have condemned this migration madness and tried even to rally people against it.

The Catholic church for example has a strong hierarchy and you are not allowed to contradict the pope and still many clergymen speak out against this craziness that the globalist pope is pushing. Some still remember how it was in their youth.

The enlightenment brought a lot of craziness, but also a great many advances especially in the field of science.

I'm starting to ask if there is a god or not, because I simple don't know. For some answers mankind is probably not made to know, still we have to push the boundaries of our knowledge. Moral, ethics and high spoken guideline is not a blue print of Christianity. Even before Christianity the old tribes had their own morale, their own rules and ethics. For people to live together in a tribe, a group or any form there will rise morale, ethics and out of this traditions to keep the spirit of the group alive. Christianity is a strong force for sure, that why it did spread that far. Still for me Europe got to it's peak not because of Christianity, it got there instead and yes, it has a big influence. Let's take the Ten Commandments, they are an expression not by the will of god, its a human expression to have rules to live together.

Talk about the goods and bad things of church, the good and bad Christians that either pushed mankind forward or hold them back. Their are how they are because of their personal flaws. Some of you guys want to bring back true Christian faith? What's this? The same that the pope kiss the feet of invaders? To make it more clear, I'm not against the christian faith of forgiveness still I will not hold my other cheek to the enemy. Religion is a private thing. Everyone that push their own believe and faith on others is seen sceptical by me. To much ignorance goes with this. I prefer a society that questions traditions and ethics but also keep them when is clear that they benefit the people.
Free men that have arguments hand talk about the best solution for a society is more preferred then the ones that talk about faith.

Fate is important not because of God, but men needs a higher idea to make great things come true. Just look at the great Cathedrals that was built in the middle ages without any machinery. And we do not build them anymore. The whole modern world is degenerate and ugly since it turned from Christianity and embraced this nihilistic society.

Christianity gives us an idea of a perfect being, and propels us to became better our-self. It does not matter if God exists or not, because even if he do not exists his mere idea makes us better. I realized this just recently, and how ignorant I was. Books really change your mind and perspective.

The longer I sat on the fence about Islam and watched events unfold, the more I realised that I had to take a side.

When the time comes, Deus Vult.

(01-17-2017 02:49 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 08:57 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Get real. The Enlightenment was mostly a failure. As the belief in God waned, WW1 and WW2 erupted dealing a death blow to the high culture of old Europe. Then whatever Christianity was leftover was finished off in the 60's with the new love bullshit, and all Europe has today is rampant whoredom, empty sanctimony, and no more will to survive.

Europe was created by Christ, and is dying without Him. It's pretty obvious. Read your history. Also nations could definitely be replaced by something better, like a Christian brotherhood via the internet or something.

Nah - the churches were full to the brim in many countries right up until the 1960s. I remember seeing old movies from France where there was barely any room in many churches due to all the crowds pouring in.

Europe did well in a more secular system seperated from the religion. Christianity was still present. The process of disintegration came rather quickly and only in the last decades. The Catholic church even in the 1950s would have condemned this migration madness and tried even to rally people against it.

The Catholic church for example has a strong hierarchy and you are not allowed to contradict the pope and still many clergymen speak out against this craziness that the globalist pope is pushing. Some still remember how it was in their youth.

The enlightenment brought a lot of craziness, but also a great many advances especially in the field of science.

Full churches don't mean much of anything.

The USA is chock full of Christian folk eagerly inviting muslim invaders into their lands.

After the world wars Christianity appears to have been replaced with churchianty.

People kept turning up because that was just what you did, but perhaps after the kind of destruction people had witnessed they stopped believing that God was the most powerful force in the universe. "Render unto Caesar" became "bow utterly unto Caesar but go to church on Sunday and sing a bit, just in case".

< The US churches have increasingly been taken over by the Rockefeller-funded council of churches. Most US based protestant churches are Judaism light with a massive dose of feminism added to the mix. They were not that way a mere 150-120 years ago.

Something similar happened to the Catholic church - it is not that difficult to fund smart gay infiltrators to have them rise ot the top. Each successive pope gave them more concessions - even John Paul II allowed them to openly join Masonic lodges while being a bishop or cardinal - and voila you have your Freemason infiltrator now sitting in the most high spot.

On whom you would bet your money guys? Jesus or Mohammed? Who would win the direct fight?

(01-17-2017 10:42 AM)Parzival Wrote:  On whom you would bet your money guys? Jesus or Mohammed? Who would win the direct fight?

First of all - Jesus certainly was no pussy - he probably travelled from Judea to India in the 15 years there are no accounts of him.

And second - what would that prove?

It is like pitting Napoleon against a giant super-strong Tutsi field commander. Even if the African wins a hand-to-hand combat, what Napoleon did in military strategy is fantastic. You find millions of brawlers out there who are pretty good in combat, but geniuses like Napoleon - they are a dozen every century at best.

(01-17-2017 11:12 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  And second - what would that prove?

A good show?
Compare the savage invaders and their crimes, riots and fights and think they have power. Its mob power. Then compare it to a well organised system that use police or military to protect its society.

The comparison was more a joke. I guess as a German I shouldn't try to do jokes.

There is a game out there called Faith Fighter.

http://www.molleindustria.org/en/faith-fighter/

(01-17-2017 11:12 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  First of all - Jesus certainly was no pussy - he probably travelled from Judea to India in the 15 years there are no accounts of him.

Interesting you believe that, I tried to explain to people around me there is huge gap in Jesus history and that there are some accounts of him being in India for that time.
There is even some weird talk about him being in Yayoi period Japan.

So I'm not the only who thought the historical Jesus very likely learned of or traveled to the east?
Wow! I honestly didnt think I'd find echoes!

http://voxday.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/chu...2673150230

Good article, basically the Western masses worship their feelings. It's not even about faith anymore. That's where the Muslims have us licked.

It is likely that Jesus did a great many things during his time before his return - travel, experience women etc.

Don't know about Japan though - that is a far stretch.





That is why I will one day move to Japan or Hong Kong at the least.

Of course you will remain always a foreigner there, but that is not always a bad thing in itself if you personally don't mind. But at least the European Islamic Wars will be waged far away from you.

Maybe Japan will send combat bots.

Do you really think far east will be safe zone? Isn't that supposed to be WORLD war, not just European battlefield for various factions?

The last world war was perfectly safe in some regions.

If it is a war with Islam, then every region far away from that kind of diversity and enrichment will be pretty safe.

Besides - I haven't ruled out whether I would come back as a crazy war tourist.

(01-17-2017 04:46 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The last world war was perfectly safe in some regions.

If it is a war with Islam, then every region far away from that kind of diversity and enrichment will be pretty safe.

Besides - I haven't ruled out whether I would come back as a crazy war tourist.

So basically any country where you don't have a historically white majority that are guilt-cucked to the core you'd be pretty safe

(01-17-2017 04:24 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  It is likely that Jesus did a great many things during his time before his return - travel, experience women etc.

Don't know about Japan though - that is a far stretch.





That is why I will one day move to Japan or Hong Kong at the least.

Of course you will remain always a foreigner there, but that is not always a bad thing in itself if you personally don't mind. But at least the European Islamic Wars will be waged far away from you.

Maybe Japan will send combat bots.

I felt more at home in Japan than I do in many parts of the west these days. At least in Japan you only have to learn the ONE language to understand what people around you are saying, as opposed to Chinese, Spanish, Korean, Arabic, and god knows what else.

(01-17-2017 10:42 AM)Parzival Wrote:  On whom you would bet your money guys? Jesus or Mohammed? Who would win the direct fight?

Parzival you have provided great Intel from the ground. That said if you are representative of Germany's best it will fall, and I hope it does quickly so other countries learn from it.

Right wing atheism is a weak ideology, not good/compelling enough to beat marxist atheism.

I'm not atheist. But maybe we should all pray just a little more.

(01-17-2017 10:42 AM)Parzival Wrote:  On whom you would bet your money guys? Jesus or Mohammed? Who would win the direct fight?

They square off, Mohammed with his scimitar, Jesus unarmed.

Suddenly the mad desert paedophile freezes still before shuddering violently.

"W-W-What are you doing..... how?"

His scimitar clangs to the ground as he collapses, his last breath escaping his lips in a long, strained croak.

Jesus crouches before him as the glimmer of life begins to leave the warlord's eyes.

"Have you forgotten Galilee, where I turned water to wine? The human body is comprised of around sixty percent water", he informs his conquered foe...

"... and I think you've had a little too much to drink."