(01-07-2017 07:38 PM)lowhead360 Wrote:  Do you have any concrete statistics or data regarding Russia turning Muslim in a few decades or the US having a 100 million Muslims by 2045? I'm not saying you're wrong, but these are huge claims and I'd like to see some evidence.

None. The TFR of Muslim nationalities (Chechens,Tatars, Dagestanis...) is less than the replacement level (2.1). Chechens are the exception (above replacement, TFR is 2.3 I think), so it is mathematically impossible. That is all according to official census.



Same for the Muslims in the Balkans (Bosniaks and Albanians). If you have a low TFR...you can't have a caliphate.

Ethnic Turks in Turkey...are fucked demographically. Kurds have much bigger TFR than them. I do not know for how long they will have full control if things keep going the way they do.



My research, which I promised a month ago, is ready (was kinda busy, and I did not cover Bosnia...too long and complicated for this forum). Should be out today (several got it already in their PM's before).

(01-07-2017 11:32 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  

(01-07-2017 07:38 PM)lowhead360 Wrote:  Do you have any concrete statistics or data regarding Russia turning Muslim in a few decades or the US having a 100 million Muslims by 2045? I'm not saying you're wrong, but these are huge claims and I'd like to see some evidence.

None. The TFR of Muslim nationalities (Chechens,Tatars, Dagestanis...) is less than the replacement level (2.1). Chechens are the exception (above replacement, TFR is 2.3 I think), so it is mathematically impossible. That is all according to official census.



Same for the Muslims in the Balkans (Bosniaks and Albanians). If you have a low TFR...you can't have a caliphate.

Ethnic Turks in Turkey...are fucked demographically. Kurds have much bigger TFR than them. I do not know for how long they will have full control if things keep going the way they do.



My research, which I promised a month ago, is ready (was kinda busy, and I did not cover Bosnia...too long and complicated for this forum). Should be out today (several got it already in their PM's before).

Figured. It's like everyone, almost from an instinctual level, thinks that Albanians and Saudis are having 8 babies per woman but when you look at the actual numbers, there often just as awful as Europe.

(01-07-2017 03:55 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  We had documented since the beginning that there are good NGO funded informative sites in multiple languages how and where to apply for funds. You can even apply for asylum under 30 fake names and identities and get cash under each name. A rapefugee is not lost - he just travels around a lot collecting his payments.

I think I did post something on this as well. Its already such a lot of information here. Most of this just with public sources. When you follow the topic a little some conclusions should pop into your mind. There is a pattern.

(01-07-2017 07:38 PM)lowhead360 Wrote:  Do you have any concrete statistics or data regarding Russia turning Muslim in a few decades or the US having a 100 million Muslims by 2045? I'm not saying you're wrong, but these are huge claims and I'd like to see some evidence.

I base my claims on simple projections - also made by plenty of guys who study the issue - like Usama Dakdok.

Let me make this clear from the guys above - I don't mean countries like Bosnia, Albania - or even places like the gulf states. Those countries have population growth at or below replacement level. (or slightly above)

The population in the Western countries will grow mostly by:

1. Immigration
2. Social security fueled child births and multiple wives (legal or illegal does not matter - they get financial support nonetheless.) Many will prefer to pop out multiple kids and live off that income. This income seems low for everyone but someone coming from North Africa, Afghanistan or Somalia. Thus they will have plenty of kids. Their second generation already has significantly less, but still more than the locals at 1.5 kids.

Essentially this growth would not happen without the welfare system.

And I would like to point out that I assume just like many others that some of the statistics are falsified deliberately (just like the gender pay gap is and the gender age distribution is terrible in the west [men outnumber women tremendously in the age group of 18-35, that is why the globalists only publish statistics of 18-65, but who cares about 50yo women for marriage?]).

Thus all the growth patterns are correct only for the West, not for Bosnia and not for Saudi Arabia:

The Muslim population grows by 100% per every 10 years. Let us assume that I am right with that and most of it fueled by immigration (for every 100.000 coming in, they pull after them family and wives at numbers of 400.000 - in addition they then have multiple kids in the first gen.).

You do the math and the US is already at 10 mio. Muslims.
2026: 20 mio.
2036: 40 mio.
2046: 80 mio.
2056: 160 mio.

Now that said - even if it reaches just 50 mio. in 2045 you will be in deep trouble for a country like the US.

By that time the EU has ammassed over 125-150 mio. Most of them will be unemployed, not integrated and angry (since the Whites, Asians, Indians and even Latinos do better financially due to "racism" and "Islamophobia"). You think it is a coincidence that thousands of cars are burning each year in Sweden and France? Most of the Muslim youth there are unemployed and don't get ahead one iota in life. If a caliphate arrives, then they will suddenly feel like in heaven.

Russia is a different baby. It has one of the lowest reproduction rates in the world. The Muslim population goes immensely into the Russian military. There are estimates that in 2025 50% of all new recruits will be Muslim. Also Russia has massive immigration from the Muslim republics and outliers into Moscow and other big cities. So in Russia it will be also due to immigration, higher repruction rate and a massive Muslim population likely making up the majority in the military in the year 2050. So there you have almost the same problem as with the EU - the population growth won't be so steep as the EU, but their numbers will be spread in the big cities and the military at rates that you will never get in the US & EU. Essentially they are in danger of losing half of their military to the future Caliphate.

And as I have pointed out - Muslims won't be making the first move - it will be the globalists - afterwards it will be killed or get killed along old tribal/religious lines. When something 100.000 times bigger than 9/11 happens all across the world and the globalists blame the new global Muslim Caliphate, then no one will be asking questions.

Good thing is that it will be the final World War the globalists will wage.

There is one thing I don't understand here. In previous WW you had completely unified countries that battled with each other and were parts of alliances (Allies & Axis powers), but this WWIII seems to disband this "old" way.

When you say West against Caliphate, and after you talk about US having shitload of muslim population, or Russia having most of military being muslim, but government not, I get conclusion that we would have various factions within countries. Or did I got it wrong?
If there is huge number of muslims in USA, how could they be unified country that battles Caliphate? Same thing with Russia, what happens to civilians if muslims control military, ghettos, or even civil war?
It seems only middle east and north africa will have completely unified pro jihad way of thinking.

Btw, what will be position of far east in this war, apart for printing machines for war?

I suggest you to read the book: clash of cultures.
Future conflicts are not any more by national interest and countries, they walk among cultural lines. Also economical lines are an issue, access to water and other ressources in the future. Look what China do in Africa. They get resources out there, not only do shitty charity. Cultures are different and lead to conflicts. With the west losing its power, it seems weak. Beside the USA, the EU is not really a threat to others. Sure still powerful, UK, France, even Germany has some really good military units. But we lost the power or will, however, do push our agenda. The west did control the world not because our culture and values seem to be superior to other cultures. Other cultures just accepted them because they had too.

In the Middle East there is a youth bulk. Many young people below 30 that grow up in a strange culture and even more, have no future there because the societies are messed up. They can't get a job, start a family. Economic just shit there. Then you have the culture of Islam that need you to be a provider and conqueror. Elite people in the Islamic world see how they are behind the west. They see it not as an disadvantage of their backward culture that prevents improvement, learning and thinking. No they believe the west took it away from them. They are the chosen ones. The Muslims. And the Islamic world is a mess because many Muslims lost their true faith. They got decadent by the west. So they have Wahabi Islam to purge the infidel and the wrong Muslims. After the purge the Islamic world will rise to old glory. Many young men there with no future fall to this. They see themselves as warriors for a higher purpose. They become true Muslims = Terrorist.

I'm not direct sure if it is all a pupped play by the elites. Its also a social - economical drive in mankind.

'They' don't want an intelligent, gainfully employed muslim population, because people with something to lose don't start civil wars. 'They' want muslims here like they are in the middle east: nothing to do except fuck goats and kill each other. Except now it's us they're killing.

(01-08-2017 07:07 AM)Parzival Wrote:  I suggest you to read the book: clash of cultures.

I have problem finding it, by that name there are multiple authors. Could you tell me name of author?
Are you maybe thinking about Samuel Huntington? His book is named Clash of Civilizations.

Quote:I'm not direct sure if it is all a pupped play by the elites. Its also a social - economical drive in mankind.

Yeah, several years ago when I started to research, at first I got idea of this elite that is all knowing and powerful and you cannot take a dump without them knowing it, but as time progressed I realized they also make dumb decisions, mostly based on huge inflated ego (as they know they are on top), but in the end they could easily get screwed back by their own plan if it backfires.

When I think about this WWIII, I have also idea that maybe this plan will somehow fail. Elites obviously use Islam as catalyst for future events, but what if that backfires?

Pardon me, yes its Clash of Civilizations by Huntington. Guess the talk about the cultural war did confuse me.^^

With the use of Islam for a Elite plan we should never forget the story of the snake. Also people can drive in other directions then wanted. Its not that this outcome is already predicted.

Zelcorpion your arguments are compelling, but I wonder then what is the point to hunker down and even bother with committing to the future of the west, having children, contributing to workforce, reviving masculinity/patriarchy etc.. when my grand children and great grandchildren will just be meatbags for the war grinder and if they survive then they are just chip wearing, Brave New World living, techno slaves to an elite .1%. Really, living poolside and watching everything devolve into the coming shitshow is a good policy, is it not?

Although I am fairly religious and hope that there is some divine intervention somewhere down the path to destruction and slavery to global conformity.

Here is the final version. Sorry for the delay.



Many believe that Russia and the Balkans (and Europe in general) will become Islamic in several decades. Yes, the situation is far from ideal, but, in case of Russia and Balkans, is impossible. Same for the rest of Europe (many reasons, which I will not cover). It's nothing more than a myth.


Now, which are the foundations of that myth? Outdated population censuses, made during the Communism era, as well as the 90ties, and long term projections based on that data. Or, in cases of some countries (such as Israel), on faulty population censuses (I mentioned Israel just for the information. I will not discuss it in my post, it's off topic).


I will break the information, country by country, in no particular order:


N.B

All counties except Russia are almost fully (Albania), or fully Muslim (Kosovo).


All the data is from official government sources, and I have provided links.




ALBANIA



I base my premises on the official population census, found on this link here:


http://www.instat.gov.al/en/themes/population.aspx



The relevant document is called Live births, deaths and natural increase, 1990-2015:
Now, read on, and prepare to be shocked!




In 1990 (Communist era), there were 82.125 live births recorded and 18.193 recorded deaths. Annual population increase was +63.932. Quite impressive.


Now, in 2000 (after Communism), there were 51.242 live births recorded and 16.421 recorded deaths. Annual population increase was + 34.821. Far from 1990 levels.


And finally, last year (2015) there were 32.715 live births recorded and 22.418 recorded deaths.



From all of this, we can see that the population growth of Albania has fallen by MORE THAN HALF in the last 25 years. The situation will be getting worse (continued emigration, lack of governmental support, Baby Boomers dying...), trust you me.


Based on this data, the Communist era myth that Albanians will have all Balkans for themselves thanks to their dicks and poons is just...a myth.




KOSOVO



I base my premises on the official population census, found on this link here:


http://ask.rks-gov.net/media/2451/vjetar...eb-ang.pdf


Go to page 39.



In 1983 (Communist era), there were 49.645 live births recorded and 11.040 recorded deaths (+38.605). Yuuge, as Comrade Trump would say


Now check this out. In 2015, there were 24.594 live births recorded and 8.202 recorded deaths ( +16.392). Good, but this is nothing compared to 1983. The situation will be getting worse (continued emigration, lack of governmental support, Baby Boomers dying...), trust you me.


Again, based on this data, the Communist era myth that Albanians will have all Balkans for themselves thanks to their dicks and poons is just...a myth.





And now I will discredit the biggest myths about the imminent Muslim takeover of Russia. Stay tuned!




RUSSIA



I will start with this article from Interfax (I think that it is a state owned company or something, so it is credible):


http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=htt...2011-04-16

Quote: Moscow, April 10, Interfax - The often-claimed proportion of Russian citizens belonging to the Muslim faith is overestimated, the Russian islamologist Roman Silantyev thinks.

'The most widespread estimation of 20 million Muslims is unrealistic,' Silantyev said as he presented his new book on Russian Islam in Moscow.

The number of Russian Muslims is 'the most serious myth' about Islam in today's Russia, where no verifiable data has been available so far.

Silantyev said he met estimations between 5 and 50 million Muslims in Russia.

In the same time the number of ethnic Muslims in Russia is more or less known and estimated to be 14.5 million, Silantyev said. Yet surveys say that there are only 7 to 9 million people who adhere to the Islamic faith in Russia.

Another popular myth is a mass conversion of ethnic Russian to Islam, he added.

'Less than 3,000 ethnic Russian have converted to Islam for the last 15 years,' Silantyev said.

According to the researcher, for the same period almost 2 million ethic Muslims have become Orthodox Christians for the same period. Over 400 Russian Orthodox clergy belong to traditionally Muslim ethnic groups, 20 percent of Tatars are Christian, and 70 percent of interfaith marriages result in the Muslim spouse conversion to Christianity.

TLDR


The premise that Russia will become Muslim in the near future are based on faulty data. There are no 20 million Muslims in Russia. More like 10 million. And their birth rates are nothing spectacular (stay tuned, I will show you the numbers).





Oh, by the way, the premise that the Russian army will become mostly Muslim is originating from various Islamist organizations, and has no grounds in reality (although people such as Pipes have fallen for it, and some Russians as well).



Now, as far as the Muslim birth rates are concerned, I will focus on Caucasus and Tatarstan (for the sake of simplicity, let's assume it is 100% Muslim, although it is like 50%).



My source is the Russian Agency for Statistics. Data is in Russian, no English:


http://www.gks.ru/dbscripts/cbsd/dbinet.cgi?pl=2415002



I have found only the TFR (total fertility rate) charts.


Replacement level is 2.1, for those who do not know. Above 2.1 is good, below 2.1 not good.


I will use data from 1990 , 2000 and 2015 .


1990

Quote:Dagestan: 3(!)

Ingueshtia: No data

North Ossetia 2.2

Chechenia 2.8

Karachevo 2.1
Circassia

Tatarstan 2.0

2000

Quote:Dagestan: 1.8

Ingueshtia: 2.4 (!)

North Ossetia 1.3

Chechenia n/a(war)

Karachevo 1.3
Circassia

Tatarstan 1.2

Quote:Dagestan: 2.02

Ingueshtia: 1.9

North Ossetia 1.9

Chechenia 2.7(!) (N.B – it's dropping since 2008)

Karachevo 1.5
Circassia

Tatarstan 1.8

Demographic threat my ass, as you can see. This data alone (again from official agency) proves that Islamic Republic of Russia will never exist. How the hell can Muslims take over Russia when their TFR is below replacement(with the exception of Chechens, but theirs is dropping too since 2008)!?. Even if we take into account illegals coming from Central Asia, that will be impossible. Russians still have balls when immigration is concerned.



By writing this post, I do not condone any kinds of hate. I hate lies and half truths, whether they are from Muslims, Jews, Christians and so on.

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/...icher.html

Quote:The majority of women feel insecure in Germany.

More than half of women consider the public space to be more uncertain than before. In an Emnid poll for "Bild am Sonntag", 58 percent of respondents said that public places are less secure today than they used to be. Nearly a third (31 percent) saw no change. Only ten percent said it is safer in the public today.

48 percent said they would avoid certain areas as soon as it gets dark. 16 per cent led to Pfefferspray after sunset. Among the 14 to 29-year-olds, it is even 32 percent.

Well well well. What should I say. A rape fantasy about a dark stranger is only nice when its in your mind. Harassed and surrounded by a group of "refugees" seems not as a cool experience in real.

/ uncledick
Zelcorpion your arguments are compelling, but I wonder then what is the point to hunker down and even bother with committing to the future of the west, having children, contributing to workforce, reviving masculinity/patriarchy etc.. when my grand children and great grandchildren will just be meatbags for the war grinder and if they survive then they are just chip wearing, Brave New World living, techno slaves to an elite .1%. Really, living poolside and watching everything devolve into the coming shitshow is a good policy, is it not?

Although I am fairly religious and hope that there is some divine intervention somewhere down the path to destruction and slavery to global conformity.


Look - life will go on. The globalists have been on a roll for a long time now, but that does not mean that they will be able to keep on winning forever.

Also in terms of the future WWIII - it will be clusterfuck, because you will have standing armies within the countries and some Muslims will be fighting on the Western side (or leaving Islam). So of course it will be a clusterfuck, but nothing that the globalists cannot manage. Some countries will be of course having one front like Eastern Europe vs the Middle East, but other places will probably have to be drawn up along very messy lines.

As for "why bother?" - that is too fatalistic. Life will go on. You go ahead living your life, maybe work a bit harder in terms of cash accumulation and later moving away to China or Japan in 20 years. The economic powerhouse will certainly lie in Asia for the next century and the next globalist police force with hundreds od army bases around the world will not be the US anymore. China will take over that and the US will be having a more humble role. But I don't see that as tragic - Britain reigned in their world domination around 1900 and it did not collapse into a Mad Max apocalypse. (Also you have to understand with the usury system that no country can uphold a top position forever, so unless China changes it, then they will one day buckle under the debt load as well. Who knows - India may then take over from 2400 onwards.)

Yes - the globalists are tightening the noose, the more financially independent you are and the richer you can become - the better it is for your children and grandchildren. And even if you don't make it to the 0,1%, so what? Life will go on - the globalists will one day lose control - it may be in the year 2075 or 2175. Your heirs will have lived through harder times, but so what? Mankind will shake off their rule one day and reach for the stars.

All the future scenarios of wars, Agenda 21 designed poverty and Brave New World kind of system sound so bleak - maybe, but maybe it won't be that bad or at least those times will pass as well. I don't believe that the globalists will have their 10.000 years-enduring-Brave-New-World system. There is a greater power above them and humanity is far more rebellious to go for it. Heck - even their own future elite generations might one day say: "Fuck it! That sucks - let's change it."

As for the near future: -

1. you can still accumulate great wealth and live more or less freely
2. You have decades before the massive conflicts make life much harder - you can plan ahead
3. Life is worth living and your kids will have to make their own choices.

In the past life was not so swell either for most of humanity. For the industrialization period of 1700s-1900s life was brutal for the wide majority of workers, children died in mines in their teens, it only got better in the 1920s up until the 1940s. If it gets somewhat worse for a few decades, then it won't be the end of the world. If your grandchild one day complains you can say that some ancestors had an even harder time and died in a coal mine at age 12.

You do your best as you go along, you can help your kids get a good foundation of neomasculinity, Game, somewhat better understanding of what is going on in our world - hopefully your son will be smart enough to navigate the waters well. (and your daughter smart enough to marry an even smarter man)

To add something to the statistics of a lower birthrate. The better the economical situation and healthcare the less children have. Migrants in Europe drop the birth rate as well in 2nd and 3rd generation. Still its a little above the normal citizens average. Even when the next generation drop birthrates with Muslims, they pass on their ideology. We have schools in Germany that have 90 % of migrant kids.

'Irenicus'

Demographic threat my ass, as you can see. This data alone (again from official agency) proves that Islamic Republic of Russia will never exist. How the hell can Muslims take over Russia when their TFR is below replacement(with the exception of Chechens, but theirs is dropping too since 2008)!?. Even if we take into account illegals coming from Central Asia, that will be impossible. Russians still have balls when immigration is concerned.

By writing this post, I do not condone any kinds of hate. I hate lies and half truths, whether they are from Muslims, Jews, Christians and so on.



Kosovo, Albania etc. - does not matter.

Russia as mentioned does not subsidize births, so the fertility rate of Muslims are closer to 2 while the one of White Russians about 1,5. In combination you get the current rate of 1.78.

2 vs 1,5 is a lot, also many Muslims are moving into central areas.

I never said that there would be big conversions to Islam. 90% of US male converts leave Islam within 5 years. Even the female converts who constitute the majority of them are leaving, because their divorce/death rate is so high. Islam grows only via reproduction or conquest - always been that way.

Also - I don't trust the statistics. I simply don't. For example - longevity stats are as fake as unemployment stats. They claim that Westerners live longer, but only recently found out in 2006 that Britons die off sooner than in the 1990s. But still they claim that Westerners live longer.

By the way - I became aware of the fact after some informed posts from Russian RVF members here who laughed at our presumptions of Russia being the bastion of Christianity (I think he posted it in the Rotherham thread claming that Russian Muslim gangs are doing that at a larger scale there).

http://www.interpretermag.com/thanks-to-...gist-says/

Quote:Many analysts have looked at demographic trends and concluded that sometime toward the middle this century, Muslims will outnumber Russians on the territory of what is today the Russian Federation and thus be in a position to shift that country in the direction of an Islamic state.

But now a Russian philologist, Nikolay Podsokorsky, argues that the transformation of that country could come much sooner. As he put it in his blog yesterday, “Russia could become an Islamic state already in ten to fifteen years,” in part because of the dynamism of Islam and in part because of Moscow’s policies.

I don't think it will be that fast, but it won't be 100 years.

He begins by noting that “Islam is step by step becoming the dominant religion of the planet,” pointing to the conclusions of the Pew Research Center, the projections of both Muslims and non-Muslims about the influence of Islam in the future, and new dystopian novels which are appearing in Europe.

“Similar prognostications,” he writes, “exist with regard to Russia as well, all the more so since the present-day Russian Orthodox Church is actively supporting the Islamization of the country and of Orthodoxy” and the Kremlin’s commitment to the defense of “traditional values” and opposition to “blasphemy” open the way to an Islamist approach.

Moreover, Podsokorsky writes, “one of the most popular and strongest Russian politicians today is the head of Chechnya, academician and hero of Russia Ramzan Kadyrov who is considered as one of the most likely successors of Putin as president” of the Russian Federation.

According to the philologist, “Muslims at present are one of the most passionate of all religious groups, and considering the trend of development in Russia…it is not difficult to imagine that already in ten to fifteen years, Russia also could become an Islamic State,” not a small one but one with nuclear weapons and a set in the UN Security Council and with shariat courts in its major cities.

This is a globalist think tank - your statistics will be as fake as the ones about the college rapes, unemplyoment rate or the gender pay gap:

Quote:Russia is becoming increasingly a Muslim country. Out of a total population of over 146 million (including two million in annexed Crimea), it counts about 15 million people of Muslim background—even if not all are believers and even fewer practice Islam. Given forthcoming demographic changes, by around 2050 Muslims will represent between one third (according to the most conservative estimates) and one half (according to the most ‘alarmist’ assessments) of the Russian population. This ‘Islamization’ of Russia—not in the sense of radical Islam but of a rising number of citizens self-referring to Islam—will impact both Russia’s domestic situation and its foreign policy options in the medium and long term. Islam’s growing importance in Russia will shape the future of the country in at least five main directions: the overall demographic balance of the country; the strategy of ‘normalizing’ the regions of the North Caucasus; Russia’s migration policy; Russia’s positioning on the international scene; and the transformation of Russian national identity.

- See more at: https://jamestown.org/program/marlene-la...rhsdJ.dpuf

Quote:The only demographically dynamic part of the population is the non-ethnically Russian one, that is, mostly Muslim ethnic groups and the smaller Buddhist and Siberian indigenous groups. Of the twenty regions with positive rates of population increase, 19 are national republics or autonomous districts with relatively high rates of non-ethnic Russian citizens. Chechnya is in the lead with a natural increase of more than 2 percent (figures that should be taken with caution, given the propaganda of Kadyrov’s regime), followed by Ingushetia and Dagestan. After the North Caucasus come regions with Buddhist traditions such as Tuva, and those with significant indigenous populations, such as Khanty-Mansi in Siberia. The thirty peoples considered nominally Muslim have seen a sharp increase (+25 percent) between the 1989 and 2010 censuses.

- See more at: https://jamestown.org/program/marlene-la...rhsdJ.dpuf

Also the article addresses the high male mortality among native Russians - Muslim men are often excluded from that.

The Difficulties of Russian Migration Policy

In terms of migrant intake, Russia is ranked second in the world—or third if the Persian Gulf region as a whole is taken into account—after the United States. Russia’s figures vary from 7 million to 12 million, depending upon the source.
- See more at: https://jamestown.org/program/marlene-la...rhsdJ.dpuf

Whoa - 7-12 mio. immigrants into Russia - mostly from poor countries - dare I say mostly Muslim? And many probably undocumented....

I rest my case.

You can disagree, but it's not as if it is all based on actual cases. Bigger and more mosques are being built in Moscow and other cities - I wonder why?

Even US and UK media noticed

Washingtonpost:

Quote:Country's interior ministry is pushing a constitutional change that would let citizens use guns against terrorists. Proponents say this could save lives if an attack occurs and police are delayed or unable to make their way to the scene. To become law, Parliament must approve the proposal; they'll vote in the coming months.

The Czech Republic already has some of the most lenient gun policies in Europe. It's home to about 800,000 registered firearms [in a country of 10 000 000]

Czech government tells its citizens how to fight terrorists: Shoot them yourselves

Express.co.uk

Quote:A “SUPER holocaust” committed by Muslim terrorists is on its way and everyone should buy guns to defend themselves, the Czech Republic’s interior minister has controversially claimed as he tries to rush new gun laws through parliament.

Czech minister controversially says: Buy guns to protect from terrorist 'Super holocaust'

http://policehour.co.uk/2017/01/brave-su...al-attack/

Brave Sunderland woman speaks out following kidnap, gang rape and brutal attack

We usually take rape allegations with a grain of sand, but when a woman comes home with multiple massive bruises and several sperm strains in her (and has a fiance and 3 kids at home on a night out with her mom!), then the story is credible.
The 6 rapefugees were arrested and instantly released - put in a "safehouse". I guess they were put in a safehouse for their own protection, because the people there were moderately upset:



In Poland they would have had to march hundreds of cops for their protection. In Britain the next street in the city will suffice as the woman saw her attackers walking around as if nothing happened.

Message: THE TRAITORS ARE NOT GOING TO PROTECT THE WOMEN, BUT THE SUPERIOR ISLAMIC RAPIST.

A night out without male companionship is becoming moronic in the enriched Europe. A woman must take one or more men with her and that man has to be armed or well-versed in combat. That is the new Europe that the "Refugees-Welcome-clappers" are getting.





Or as Sargon of Akkad correctly put it when Lilly Allen said that only White men harrassed her sexually.

"It did not happen to me! Because I live in a white millionaire neighborhood and I am surrounded by white affluent men. Only those white rich men were occasionally too forward by grabbing my ass!"
Indeed - when you never meet a rapefugee and never go to a run-down club or celebrate NYE in a posh club in New York, then you are never going to encounter this enrichment.

https://www.welt.de/regionales/hamburg/a...eschreiben

Quote:She wanted to help and be attacked, beaten, stripped and obviously also abused. Now the 28-year-old Hamburg woman could describe one of the five perpetrators very precisely.

On Saturday, a 28-year-old woman in a park in Hamburg-St. George has been injured and robbed by several men. As the police reported on Sunday, there is also evidence of a sexual offense.

Four of the five perpetrators are supposed to be black Africans between 20 and 30 years old, darkly dressed and about 1.80 meters tall. The fifth man is also to be Black Africans, over 1.80 meters tall and end 30 / beginning 40.

https://www.tag24.de/nachrichten/niederw...zei-201697

Quote:Three girls have been gagged by two men in Niederwiesa.

As reported by the police, sexual abuse took place on Saturday night at the Dresdner Strasse. The two men (21, 39) were struck by a group of children and young people around 6.30 pm at the station.

Initially, the 21-year-old touched a 13-year-old girl and a 14-year-old immoral. Later, he held another 13-year-old, so the 39-year-old could touch her immorally.

The girl broke loose and was able to escape with the group. Near the station, the police were able to seize the two men from Libya. The investigation against the men continues.

http://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/spandau/d...gewaltigen

Quote:The Berlin police are looking for photos with a man who has tried in September 2016 to rape a 15-year-old girl in Spandau. He should have followed her in the subway before.

This 20 to 25 year old man is said to have attempted to abuse a young girl (15) in Berlin-Spandau on 6 September 2016. It was only thanks to the accidental housekeepers that the rape was prevented!
The suspect is described as follows

► 20 to 25 years old
► dark, short hair with secret corner
► Black chin beard
► about 1.80 m tall
► North African or Arabic appearance
► spoke English and very bad German

Such stuff you can read daily. When you talk with someone about it, they either say, well not all of them like that, calm down, Germans do crimes too.
Also after the Berlin attack, there was no moment of silence. The victims of the attack are the worst that could happen to Merkel and the pro refugee fraction. Thats why they get ignored. No official reaction to the terror attack. No words of regret or pity. I really what is in the mind of many Germans. When the election in September gives a favour to Merkel, I really wonder. But same in Austria.

I can only explain it by psychological behaviour. When you are weak, you act weak. The situation, the migrants give you a frame where you hide and shy away. People keep their mouths close.

(01-09-2017 05:31 AM)Wrec Wrote:  Even US and UK media noticed

Washingtonpost:

Quote:Country's interior ministry is pushing a constitutional change that would let citizens use guns against terrorists. Proponents say this could save lives if an attack occurs and police are delayed or unable to make their way to the scene. To become law, Parliament must approve the proposal; they'll vote in the coming months.

The Czech Republic already has some of the most lenient gun policies in Europe. It's home to about 800,000 registered firearms [in a country of 10 000 000]

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People often cluck their tongues and laugh at such an idea, but they have been conditioned to think that terrorism is a thing that happens in one random spot once a week somewhere in Europe.

They have not the slightest clue about what an organised offensive would look like, wherein 1000 islamists in Germany are told that on the first day of Ramadan they must be ready to take hostages and hold them for as long as possible before killing the kaffir and martyring themselves.

They are told "get guns from your local mosque." Others simply arm themselves with axes etc.

Try to imagine what a joke the police response would be to such a thing. Not only would they be powerless in the run-up, having no way to infiltrate and prevent a headless conspiracy, but their entire training regimen for dealing with terrorist attacks relies on swamping a single area with officers and waiting for the lunatic to kill themselves or give up.

Imagine even 100 nutters engaging in a killing spree throughout the day in a single large city. We would see how smugly the progressives rely on their beloved state operatives then.

Guns. You don't need them until you really need them.

Nah - the frame of the migrants is only responsible for the direct confrontation - that is when people shy away from.

Most of the behavior is explained by constant brainwashing over generations - White guilt, the bad crusades, the bad colonialism, the bad Nazi crimes, the poor refugees, all religions being equal, the brown folk are oppressed etc.

It is one propaganda point after another until Europeans honestly think that they are guilty of everything bad in the world - not the reality - they created this height of civilization for all races - Germans being one of the leading motors of that. But no - they all have to grovel before some primitive stone-age cultists who have barely advanced beyond the old path that Mohammed has set them out to do.

(01-09-2017 07:12 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  People often cluck their tongues and laugh at such an idea, but they have been conditioned to think that terrorism is a thing that happens in one random spot once a week somewhere in Europe.

They have not the slightest clue about what an organised offensive would look like, wherein 1000 islamists in Germany are told that on the first day of Ramadan they must be ready to take hostages and hold them for as long as possible before killing the kaffir and martyring themselves.

They are told "get guns from your local mosque." Others simply arm themselves with axes etc.

Try to imagine what a joke the police response would be to such a thing. Not only would they be powerless in the run-up, having no way to infiltrate and prevent a headless conspiracy, but their entire training regimen for dealing with terrorist attacks relies on swamping a single area with officers and waiting for the lunatic to kill themselves or give up.

Imagine even 100 nutters engaging in a killing spree throughout the day in a single large city. We would see how smugly the progressives rely on their beloved state operatives then.

Guns. You don't need them until you really need them.

Indeed - that is why in WWIII the Caliphate would make initially huge gains. Imagine what happens if 30 nukes go off in multiple European and US cities and then 500.000 Islamists across the world start conquering entire areas. Within days it can be 50 mio. Muslims in arms in the US and Europe conquering entire weapons depots and military installations while the West is just dealing with the consequences of the nukes. Whole countries would fall to them before a meaningful resistence can be mounted.

This is the easy part and a simple Blitzkrieg. Of course afterwards when the globalist machinerie of war gets initiatied and China and Japan start producing millions of combat drones and bots - and NATO forces organize a defense, then they find out what it means to meet a true modern military. It will be too late then to wail and scream, the media will be so utterly ruthless that it will sound like a neonazi-site.

Keep in mind that a lot of the globalists are Jewish, do you honestly think that the globalists believe this:



while this happens in Israel - another truck of peace:

Do you honestly think that the globalists and many Jews among them are so utterly stupid that they think that Muslims and Jews are united on the refugee issue?

It is one big setup - WWIII comes and Israel will conquer everything in the Middle East. It may encompass all the gulf states and may even reach all across North Africa. And no one would even complain if they nuke entire Middle Eastern countries, since the Caliphate has supposedly nuked the West.

But yeah - let us clap for more refugees and let some of the brainwashed Jewish SJWs do the same. Their leaders have other plans and our Western leaders have other plans for the enriching Muslims as well.

Meanwhile they let them rape and plunder, because that is not hurting them.

We not even have to talk about a terrorist strike. Look at cologne where 2000 of them march in from all over, highly organised. Take it to a more basic level. Police has to go regular to the camps because of fights. Now imagine you have several groups of 30 to 60 people that form a mob. In one camp the police can deal with it. In Cologne they did with heavy force. This force was missing somewhere else. Several mobs of 50 people in on area will bring the police quick to the limit. They have to split forces.
Not even that, when there is one big event in a city, police will be there. They lack manpower to cover other stuff. Friend of mine works in construction department in a bigger city. He said, when you want to rob a bank or do something similar just use the right timing when the force is occupied somewhere else.

Reduction of manpower and the lack of will to fight the invaders direct will bring future problems.

It's almost like the movie Demolition Man where Dennis Rodman's character is unfrozen and then sets about utterly destroying a society that's forgotten what violence actually is and how to deal with it.

Lift. Shoot. Avoid crowds. Watch your back.

The invaders are thinning the herd. Don't be the one that gets thinned.

Wesley Snipes...but with Dennis Rodman's hair to be fair.

Bah. You're absolutely right.

I hope Snipes doesn't read this forum. I could be in trouble.