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Zelcorpion 路 2016-12-26 07:03:00 路 #13026
(12-26-2016 06:38 AM)Wrec Wrote:  Its actually good news that its fake.
I thought for a minute that Germany went full crazy...

Actually those plane rides happen just without the signs. There are reports that it happened initially late at night at Munich airport starting with flights at 0100 AM up until 0600.
il bello 路 2016-12-26 09:16:00 路 #13027
(12-25-2016 03:59 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Europe is the least racist xenophobic place in the world no matter how your definition of racism goes. All other cultures are far more against other religions, races or tribes.

What many Middle Easterners experience is squarely on the shoulders of the violennce and crap perpetrated by Islam and your fellow Jihadis.

You can blame them. If all were Persian doctors and high-IQ corporate managers that are my Ex-Muslim & Muslim friends, then I doubt if anyone would be "racist" towards you. Though racism in your definition is not getting a club verification or a strange look at first by some people that don't know you. That is so tough indeed! Such racism! Much better to let in millions and suffer through countless terrorist attacks and be all open for more diversity! Let them all come in and open more mosques, then get killed ever more until one day it is a no-go-zone and then finally a sharia shithole.

If all were as high-performing as the few Turks I studied with or the high-IQ Persians or secular Afghanis who constitute my friends, then I can guarantee you that you would be viewed like a Japanese - strange, but not negative.
That's your opinion, mine is exactly the opposite. I don't mind too much desperate people coming to my country/to europe and being the last step of society from every point of view, that's fine for me. What is really evil and unacceptable to me is going to the uk and constantly seeing british people begging while bangladeshi drive bmw, is the fact that in london is way more common seeing british people paying the rent to indians, africans etc. than the opposite, is the fact that in a hospital even up north in preston you may find only one british doctor and the rest are pakistani, africans etc., is the fact that in malta you see loads of lybians living there who go out every night but you don't see one single lybian working, that basically means all the lybians who go there are extremely rich. This is one thing i'm very proud of my country (italy), if you're foreign in italy, particularly in the south, you're definitely don't gonna come to rule here, from whatever point of view you see it.
NewMeta 路 2016-12-26 09:28:00 路 #13028
(12-26-2016 07:01 AM)AntiMediocrity Wrote:  Sorry about your Christmas experience Meta. As for myself, I visited the UK from 2nd-8th December with the idea that I would give the obligatory visits then and that way I wouldn't have an angry family come Christmas.

I am fortunate in that my mother and younger sister voted Brexit so they are right-leaning, however I will say that my sister had to ask what to vote rather than already be informed. My older sister is far too complacent in her role as a mother of two to care about such things, and regardless of that she's extremely emotionally inclined so I can imagine her being an advocate for Germany's activities.

Next year do as I do, and go and see them before Christmas. Then you can have a real Christmas here with your girlfriends family and their (presumed) traditions. Traditions which are not considered offensive by any of the local populace, I might add.

I would be with mine, except we've only been dating a couple of months and as a result I'm in my apartment alone- something which is far less depressing than being in England.

It is any wonder that we choose to visit England once per year if we can get away with it? Even after 6 days; the television format, the accents, the mentality, the apparent complete disregard for intellectualism-all of it was too much for me and I couldn't wait to be back.

Good idea actually, something to think about next year if it comes to it. I wouldve spent it here with my girlfriends family this time round but I still cant communicate with them enough properly, maybe another year of average on and off Polish practise though aye lol.
El_Gostro 路 2016-12-26 11:03:00 路 #13029
(12-26-2016 04:40 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  This has become their religion now and questioning that can be seen as an attack against their New God

Right on the head!
Many a statesman and scholar has pointed out how religion conforms a neccesary part of a more or less stable social order ( unless your prophet of choice happened to be a warmonger with a thing for before age butts Wink )
It does seem to be that most of the populace is simply not able to function and exist without a faith of some kind,and a majority of these so called free thinkers that have removed the clothes of their religion, find themselves so naked they have to don a new one (cue in leftard ideologies and new age bullshit)
Valentine 路 2016-12-26 13:25:00 路 #13030
Similar experience as NewMeta recently.

I've accepted now that the brainwashing runs so deep that they can't take a second to observe it from the angle of someone who has spent hundreds more hours researching the topic.

It runs too close to the ego. Opinions on religion, race, political ideology - it runs too close to one's core identity, and they're not willing to change it unwillingly.

These days when blue pill beliefs come up I let most of them slide but leftist bullshit I cannot stand. Even though it ends up in a argument that goes nowhere I'd rather dominate the discussion to the point they know not to bring up such bullshit around me. A stressful method but at least it prevents further infection of other family members with leftist indoctrination.
redpillage 路 2016-12-26 13:27:00 路 #13031
(12-26-2016 09:28 AM)NewMeta Wrote:  They dont care about their culture, as they say "what is our culture anyway"
They dont care about dying in one of these attacks, they compared it to that of dying from a car accident "so what if we all die, we are all going to die anyway, im more likely to get hit by a car tomorrow"
They dont care about even basic integration "they shouldnt have to adopt our way of life if they dont want to, thats racist"
They dont care about demographics "if they outbreed us so what, we have been a majority for way too long anyway"

Okay, to make sense out of all this it's important to understand how easy it is to fall into a myriad of cognitive biases that are part and parcel of being a human being. That applies both to the people you are trying to convert/convince as well as us. Yes, we are all products of our environment but contrary that what most SJWs would want you to believe we are not all created equal.

As (aspiring) alpha males it is most likely that you have learned to employ critical thinking and logic to solve problems. You probably have a reduced proclivity to make decisions on the basis of group consent. You want to be a leader and thus reject other alphas whilst aiming to submit others to your will. Women and beta males however literally think differently. Their reality is defined by external factors, e.g. what they are being told, what is currently in fashion, and in particular what the majority of their peers believe to be true, good, and socially acceptable.

The problem some of you guys seem to be facing is the cognitive bias of expecting other people to be thinking like you, i.e. to be solving problems and/or deciding issues by analyzing a sufficient amount of pertinent data and then to arrive at a (relatively) independent conclusion. Some may call this the scientific method but in essence it's nothing but analytical thinking. However less and less people out there have been trained to do so and the youngest generation is actually being discouraged from making independent assessments.

All that Marxist brainwashing during the early stages of mental development is aimed at rewarding mindless repetition and acceptance of ideological tenets. The goal is NOT to create independent thinkers but to socialize young people into key cultural values. School has long been considered a bridge that acts between the family and wider society. Its role used to promote universal values i.e. achievement, individualism, competition and equality of opportunity, however nowadays those core values have been replaced by obedience, multi-culturalism, feminism, and acceptance of group authority.

The end result of years of systematic indoctrination is what you are observing amongst your own family members. Basically young emasculated men have now begun to apply thinking patterns that traditionally were found mostly among women and beta males. An exacerbating factor is that they actually have become 'addicted' to social group endorsement, which is also why social media sites like Facebook, Twitter, etc. have grown exponentially over the past decade. Many are in fact addicted to getting their daily dose of group endorsement, and the quickest and most efficient way to get your 'fix' is to simply regurgitate the mantras imposed by a Marxist multi-cultural ideology. Thinking patterns or theories that oppose popular views actually trigger a stress response, are emotionally painful, and are thus avoided.

So a large percentage of Millenials have actually been emotionally trained and thus will respond to particular external stimuli in a very predictable fashion. In very simple terms their endocrine system floods their entire body with certain peptides when 'triggered' by specific keywords or topics. Positive ones like getting up voted or praised on social media produce pleasure responses and feelings of belonging and being 'good' or 'right'. Negative ones illicit anger and stress responses, it's like pressing a button. Read here for a background on how learned behavior controls much of your personality/thinking via peptides.

So when you guys joke about some feminist or male SJW being 'triggered' it's actually not a joke. Not only are they simply not trained and used to thinking on a logical/analytical basis, but even worse their ideology has ingrained them with emotional triggers that will elicit a strong negative response when faced with counter arguments. By the way none of us are immune to emotional programming.

IF you're white and live in the U.S. here's a good personal test. Next time surrounded by several African Americans imagine for a moment that you're standing up and yell 'hey niggers' at them. Or if you're near a few Jewish individuals consider yelling a pertinent slur in your mind. Of course you won't do it but just imagine yourself doing it and then observe your own feelings and stress response. If you're a white person living in the U.S. it will most likely trigger a whole host of emotions, from fear, anxiety based on a boost of adrenaline or perhaps endorphins (if you're a racist).

Yet another contributing factor that is widely being ignored is environmental pollution and in particular estrogen mimicking components in plastic which are known to lower sperm counts and induce behavioral changes in animals as well as human beings. To make matters worse a lot of young males have been trained to eat 'healthy' soy based foods which in turn raises estrogen levels. This is easily observed by comparing the average speech patterns and behavior of young men, many of which appear more effeminate and less aggressive than prior generations.

So when attempting to debate a controversial social/political topic with friends and family on the basis of reason, evidence, and logic you will often find that you are running into a wall of negative emotions. Which can be very frustrating to us. BUT there is a silver lining which may not be immediately apparent. Most women and betas are followers by definition and as soon as public opinion shifts they don't question it and quickly adjust their own opinions/thinking accordingly.

Enter Trump and the recent victory of the alt-right. The most effective strategy we we can employ is not to convince others via debate and dialog but to simply continue being victorious and to lead forward aggressively and unapologetically. As the environment and the public dialog shifts a generation of emasculated beta followers will in the end adjust their own thinking. They cannot help it because it is what they have been trained to do.
LikeABaller 路 2016-12-26 13:32:00 路 #13032
(12-26-2016 02:21 AM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  Who cares about Jesus when we can celebrate a false prophet pedophile and his rabidly violent, psychologically unstable followers instead? Brilliant !

Okay So Mohammed is a false prophet but Jesus who was born from a virgin mother and can magically turn water into wine is real? Big Grin

So if Mohammed is a pedophile based on FACTS, it is safe to assume Mary rode the cock carousel?

Let's analyze all this religion stuff from facts for one second Big Grin
iknowexactly 路 2016-12-26 13:35:00 路 #13033
(12-26-2016 01:32 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 02:21 AM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  Who cares about Jesus when we can celebrate a false prophet pedophile and his rabidly violent, psychologically unstable followers instead? Brilliant !

Okay So Mohammed is a false prophet but Jesus who was born from a virgin mother and can magically turn water into wine is real? Big Grin

Both are real insofar as they seem to be existant historical personalities,, but only one is useful because he advocated cooperation and trust over "submission" and fascistic militarism in suppression of competing brands of religion.

Islam is a sometimes violent cult that fortunately has a majority of nominal adherents who don't follow its rules.

Fantastical birth origin myths are largely irrelevant as they don't directly dictate the behavior of a religion's customers.
redpillage 路 2016-12-26 13:39:00 路 #13034
(12-26-2016 06:38 AM)Wrec Wrote:  Its actually good news that its fake.
I thought for a minute that Germany went full crazy...

Give them time...
LikeABaller 路 2016-12-26 13:39:00 路 #13035
Is it possible to get pregnant without sexual intercourse? You cannot reject Mohammed while white washing Jesus. Either both of them are real, or both are phonies.
Be objective.
LikeABaller 路 2016-12-26 13:49:00 路 #13036
(12-26-2016 01:35 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 01:32 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 02:21 AM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  Who cares about Jesus when we can celebrate a false prophet pedophile and his rabidly violent, psychologically unstable followers instead? Brilliant !

Okay So Mohammed is a false prophet but Jesus who was born from a virgin mother and can magically turn water into wine is real? Big Grin

Both are real insofar as they seem to be existant historical personalities,, but only one is useful because he advocated cooperation and trust over "submission" and fascistic militarism in suppression of competing brands of religion.

Islam is a sometimes violent cult that fortunately has a majority of nominal adherents who don't follow its rules.

Fantastical birth origin myths are largely irrelevant as they don't directly dictate the behavior of a religion's customers.

And you cannot expect refugees to convert from Islam to Christianity, however you can force them to abandon all religions and say its all BS.

Both religions recognize each others prophets, they secretly had a clause going on with each other saying you accept mohammed ill accept jesus so we'll make people believe in this religion stuff.

Imagine it like an ancient version of price fixing Big Grin

If you want muslims to abandon Ramadan while you go on xmas shopping that will not happen. It's not realistic.
Glaucon 路 2016-12-26 13:55:00 路 #13037
(12-26-2016 01:49 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  If you want muslims to abandon Ramadan while you go on xmas shopping that will not happen. It's not realistic.

I really only want muslims to stay in their own country at this point...
LikeABaller 路 2016-12-26 13:58:00 路 #13038
(12-26-2016 01:55 PM)Glaucon Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 01:49 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  If you want muslims to abandon Ramadan while you go on xmas shopping that will not happen. It's not realistic.

I really only want muslims to stay in their own country at this point...

Okay then let's close all borders, no one gets to leave their home country.

But you guys want to go to SouthEastAsia at the same time for easy pussy, maybe hop onto Indonesia for some even easier pussy but you want to keep the muzzies out of your country. You want everything in your favor. Muzzies will stay in their home but you will get to travel? Very fair deal Big Grin

But if we closed all borders you'll be stuck with western women Big Grin

There is a Turkish saying for things like these, I want to fuck from the ass, but don't want to catch AIDS.
Glaucon 路 2016-12-26 14:01:00 路 #13039
(12-26-2016 01:58 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 01:55 PM)Glaucon Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 01:49 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  If you want muslims to abandon Ramadan while you go on xmas shopping that will not happen. It's not realistic.

I really only want muslims to stay in their own country at this point...

Okay then let's close all borders, no one gets to leave their home country.

But you guys want to go to SouthEastAsia at the same time for easy pussy, maybe hop onto Indonesia for some even easier pussy but you want to keep the muzzies out of your country. You want everything in your favor. Muzzies will stay in their home but you will get to travel? Very fair deal Big Grin

But if we closed all borders you'll be stuck with western women Big Grin

Do not play with my words, you know I meant stay in their country and not come over to Europe to rape, kill and demand Europe to be muslim.
LikeABaller 路 2016-12-26 14:02:00 路 #13040
^Give those guys 1000$ each they'll be happy to convert into any religion you want.

I don't think their intention is to spread Islam.

They are refugees, the lowest of the barrel. Of course they're going to have a hard time adapting. A very hard time. If you want to keep them out you have to make their country a safe place again.
redpillage 路 2016-12-26 14:04:00 路 #13041
(12-26-2016 01:58 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 01:55 PM)Glaucon Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 01:49 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  If you want muslims to abandon Ramadan while you go on xmas shopping that will not happen. It's not realistic.

I really only want muslims to stay in their own country at this point...

Okay then let's close all borders, no one gets to leave their home country.

But you guys want to go to SouthEastAsia at the same time for easy pussy, maybe hop onto Indonesia for some even easier pussy but you want to keep the muzzies out of your country. You want everything in your favor. Muzzies will stay in their home but you will get to travel? Very fair deal Big Grin

But if we closed all borders you'll be stuck with western women Big Grin

Are you confused or something? Visiting a country and banging a few chicks is not tantamount to moving there, demanding asylum, draining the country's social services by breeding like a rabbit, and incidentally raping and pillaging the place at your heart's desire.

Laugh5

Maybe that's what goes as 'tourism' among you Muslims ;-)
redpillage 路 2016-12-26 14:07:00 路 #13042
(12-26-2016 01:39 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Is it possible to get pregnant without sexual intercourse? You cannot reject Mohammed while white washing Jesus. Either both of them are real, or both are phonies.
Be objective.

Yes you can. I'm doing it right now.
LikeABaller 路 2016-12-26 14:07:00 路 #13043
(12-26-2016 02:04 PM)redpillage Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 01:58 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 01:55 PM)Glaucon Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 01:49 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  If you want muslims to abandon Ramadan while you go on xmas shopping that will not happen. It's not realistic.

I really only want muslims to stay in their own country at this point...

Okay then let's close all borders, no one gets to leave their home country.

But you guys want to go to SouthEastAsia at the same time for easy pussy, maybe hop onto Indonesia for some even easier pussy but you want to keep the muzzies out of your country. You want everything in your favor. Muzzies will stay in their home but you will get to travel? Very fair deal Big Grin

But if we closed all borders you'll be stuck with western women Big Grin

Are you confused or something? Visiting a country and banging a few chicks is not tantamount to moving there, demanding asylum, draining the country's social services by breeding like a rabbit, and incidentally raping and pillaging the place at your heart's desire.

Laugh5

Maybe that's what goes as 'tourism' among you Muslims ;-)

The western world should join together and fix the situation in Syria, and send most of those refugees back. This is the only way to fix this problem, you guys helped create it by supporting the insurgents in Syria. You armed radical groups against Assad, what were you expecting? This is not a fairytale. Those people lost their homes, fuck they lost their country. They are not coming to Europe for fun, they are coming just to survive.
redpillage 路 2016-12-26 14:08:00 路 #13044
(12-26-2016 01:55 PM)Glaucon Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 01:49 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  If you want muslims to abandon Ramadan while you go on xmas shopping that will not happen. It's not realistic.

I really only want muslims to stay in their own country at this point...

I just want them to go away... as far away as possible.
LikeABaller 路 2016-12-26 14:11:00 路 #13045
The refugees are not only Syrians, but there are plenty of Afghans as well. Afghanistan has been in a state of civil war since the soviet invasion in the 70's.
Russia and the West created this mess.
The people are paying for the mistakes of their governments.
redpillage 路 2016-12-26 14:12:00 路 #13046
(12-26-2016 02:07 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  The western world should join together and fix the situation in Syria, and send most of those refugees back. This is the only way to fix this problem, you guys helped create it by supporting the insurgents in Syria. You armed radical groups against Assad, what were you expecting? This is not a fairytale. Those people lost their homes, fuck they lose their country. They are not coming to Europe for fun, they are coming just to survive.

What the Western world really needs to do is to pull out of the Middle East and build an impenetrable wall across Southern Europe as well as prevent ANY immigration of Muslims into Western nations. Islam should be declared a hostile and illegal sect and all mosques in the West should be closed and then leveled.

Then we should just sit back and watch while you guys all turn on each other until the oil eventually runs out. I don't give a flying fuck about you people and paradise in my mind is a world without Muslims.
Glaucon 路 2016-12-26 14:13:00 路 #13047
(12-26-2016 02:07 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  The western world should join together and fix the situation in Syria, and send most of those refugees back. This is the only way to fix this problem, you guys helped create it by supporting the insurgents in Syria. You armed radical groups against Assad, what were you expecting? This is not a fairytale. Those people lost their homes, fuck they lost their country. They are not coming to Europe for fun, they are coming just to survive.

And what about the rapefugees coming from Africa? You know that most of the rapefugees are not even from Syria right?
Should we fix all the Muslim countries too? It is quite clear Muslims can not do it themselves...
LikeABaller 路 2016-12-26 14:15:00 路 #13048
(12-26-2016 02:12 PM)redpillage Wrote:  
(12-26-2016 02:07 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  The western world should join together and fix the situation in Syria, and send most of those refugees back. This is the only way to fix this problem, you guys helped create it by supporting the insurgents in Syria. You armed radical groups against Assad, what were you expecting? This is not a fairytale. Those people lost their homes, fuck they lose their country. They are not coming to Europe for fun, they are coming just to survive.

What the Western world really needs to do is to pull out of the Middle East and build an impenetrable wall across Southern Europe as well as prevent ANY immigration of Muslims into Western nations. Islam should be declared a hostile and illegal sect and all mosques in the West should be closed and then leveled.

Then we should just sit back and watch while you guys all turn on each other until the oil eventually runs out. I don't give a flying fuck about you people and paradise in my mind is a world without Muslims.

You've probably only got half of your life ahead of you judging from your maturity level, I assume you're somewhere between 35-40 years old. Maybe you'll live another 30-40 years, 20-25 of that being quality. I don't think you'll get to see that paradise. And once you die, its over for all of us, why would you care for the rest of the world?

Anyone I'm out to party, time is ticking, for all of us. We will all die. Should party while still young Big Grin
Zelcorpion 路 2016-12-26 14:41:00 路 #13049
(12-26-2016 01:39 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Is it possible to get pregnant without sexual intercourse? You cannot reject Mohammed while white washing Jesus. Either both of them are real, or both are phonies.
Be objective.

Slowly but surely your Islamic apologist crap is getting on my nerves.

It does not matter whether the church said that Jesus was born of a virgin. There are even claims that the church deliberately changed the translation at one stage and the texts simply said "young woman" which was equivalent to "virgin" since it meant the same in ancient Hebrew.

And Mohammed flew to the moon on a winged horse. Yeah right - at best we can agree that those two things are probably phony.

We know things that were real probably with both figures of history and we know that there are things that were likely not real (except for some hardcore believers).

And in essence both are irrelevant, because what matters is what kind of path, mental engram and legacy both have left behind.

One was a peaceful man whose worst comment would be calling him an idealistic hippie.

The other one was murderous caravan robber, pedophile, mass-murderer, conquereror, warlord, murderer even of his own, only-sitting-down-pisser, camel-urine-drinker, scared of visions of Gabriel, sexual deviant who said that one cannot shake a woman's hand without getting aroused. Mohammed was a grade A psychopath - if the choice would be between Hitler or Mohammed, then Hitler would win by landslide. Imagine that - Hitler is a far better human being than Mohammed! Let that sink in and then go back to the mosque and extoll his virtues of the greatest role model for humanity.

Both prophets are respected - give me a break with that Taqiya bullshit. That works on those who know nothing about the history of Islam or the religion itself. Try it with the SJW sites - they will agree with you.
quino_16 路 2016-12-26 14:46:00 路 #13050
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