Post: #101

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.

I've hooked up with a few Asian women but yeah, you're pretty spot on that most of the Asian women looking to date outside their race are only interested in white guys.

Post: #102

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  ...
Asian women are very racist towards black men, no need to be PC about this.
Let me rephrase it, asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.

IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.
....

If you yourself aren't a Black or Asian male how are you at liberty to draw such a conclusion?

Post: #103

(12-09-2016 05:41 PM)the high Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  ...
Asian women are very racist towards black men, no need to be PC about this.
Let me rephrase it, asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.

IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.
....

If you yourself aren't a Black or Asian male how are you at liberty to draw such a conclusion?

Call me a weirdo but I made many fake profiles on Thaifriendly to test the responses of girls.

Black muscular dude who was way better looking than me wasn't getting 20% of the attention I was getting. I made fake profiles of indian/asian/arab/white guy too.
My fake german profile got the most attention.

I'm a nerd when it comes to these stuff. Trust me, I did my homework.

You might say It will be different real life, on that I'll agree with you 100%.

Post: #104

(12-09-2016 05:58 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:41 PM)the high Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  ...
Asian women are very racist towards black men, no need to be PC about this.
Let me rephrase it, asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.

IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.
....

If you yourself aren't a Black or Asian male how are you at liberty to draw such a conclusion?

Call me a weirdo but I made many fake profiles on Thaifriendly to test the responses of girls.

Black muscular dude who was way better looking than me wasn't getting 20% of the attention I was getting. I made fake profiles of indian/asian/arab/white guy too.
My fake german profile got the most attention.

I'm a nerd when it comes to these stuff. Trust me, I did my homework.

You might say It will be different real life, on that I'll agree with you 100%.

Really now ? Interesting, writing a data sheet with stats would interesting and possibly helpful !

Post: #105

(12-09-2016 06:00 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:58 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:41 PM)the high Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  ...
Asian women are very racist towards black men, no need to be PC about this.
Let me rephrase it, asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.

IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.
....

If you yourself aren't a Black or Asian male how are you at liberty to draw such a conclusion?

Call me a weirdo but I made many fake profiles on Thaifriendly to test the responses of girls.

Black muscular dude who was way better looking than me wasn't getting 20% of the attention I was getting. I made fake profiles of indian/asian/arab/white guy too.
My fake german profile got the most attention.

I'm a nerd when it comes to these stuff. Trust me, I did my homework.

You might say It will be different real life, on that I'll agree with you 100%.

Really now ? Interesting, writing a data sheet with stats would interesting and possibly helpful !

I'd love to but nearly all my fake profiles got locked. They require phone verification now : ) I did this experiment approx 2 years ago, and I dont remember every single detail.

But what I still remember is that only the ladyboys were messaging my muscular black profile.

I made a fake profile of some jailbait young german dude, you wouldn't believe the amount of 40-50 year old women who were willing to fuck him eventhough I stated in the profile I was 15(I used pic of a 18 year old guy) You cant register as 15 year old so I set the age 18 but told on the profile I'm 15.

The Indian guy didn't get any love either.

But I should of kept the data. It was an amazing experience for me. I came to the conclusion that asian girls are very racist after that event.

Post: #106

(12-09-2016 05:58 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:41 PM)the high Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  ...
Asian women are very racist towards black men, no need to be PC about this.
Let me rephrase it, asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.

IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.
....

If you yourself aren't a Black or Asian male how are you at liberty to draw such a conclusion?

Call me a weirdo but I made many fake profiles on Thaifriendly to test the responses of girls.

Black muscular dude who was way better looking than me wasn't getting 20% of the attention I was getting. I made fake profiles of indian/asian/arab/white guy too.
My fake german profile got the most attention.

I'm a nerd when it comes to these stuff. Trust me, I did my homework.

You might say It will be different real life, on that I'll agree with you 100%.

So one fake online profile on Thaifriendly provides you with enough data to make such a claim?

This is why I don't take these kinds of statements seriously anymore.

Post: #107

(12-09-2016 06:13 PM)the high Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:58 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:41 PM)the high Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  ...
Asian women are very racist towards black men, no need to be PC about this.
Let me rephrase it, asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.

IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.
....

If you yourself aren't a Black or Asian male how are you at liberty to draw such a conclusion?

Call me a weirdo but I made many fake profiles on Thaifriendly to test the responses of girls.

Black muscular dude who was way better looking than me wasn't getting 20% of the attention I was getting. I made fake profiles of indian/asian/arab/white guy too.
My fake german profile got the most attention.

I'm a nerd when it comes to these stuff. Trust me, I did my homework.

You might say It will be different real life, on that I'll agree with you 100%.

So one fake online profile on Thaifriendly provides you with enough data to make such a claim?

This is why I don't take these kinds of statements seriously anymore.

There is a link on the 4th page to an independent okcupid experiment which is on par with my experiment.


Asian female reply to black 17%, its the lowest in the whole group. My results on thaifriendly however were far worse. 17% on okcupid is good.

Post: #108

(10-02-2012 03:18 AM)Statsi Wrote:  I second bullshit.

http://www.blackpeoplemeet.com/

I went here and got curious, then tried http://www.asianmeet.com/
Wasn't what I expected.

Post: #109

You have statistics, charts, and fake profiles, I have real world experience.

"Never tell me the odds."

Post: #110

(12-09-2016 06:16 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 06:13 PM)the high Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:58 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 05:41 PM)the high Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  ...
Asian women are very racist towards black men, no need to be PC about this.
Let me rephrase it, asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.

IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.
....

If you yourself aren't a Black or Asian male how are you at liberty to draw such a conclusion?

Call me a weirdo but I made many fake profiles on Thaifriendly to test the responses of girls.

Black muscular dude who was way better looking than me wasn't getting 20% of the attention I was getting. I made fake profiles of indian/asian/arab/white guy too.
My fake german profile got the most attention.

I'm a nerd when it comes to these stuff. Trust me, I did my homework.

You might say It will be different real life, on that I'll agree with you 100%.

So one fake online profile on Thaifriendly provides you with enough data to make such a claim?

This is why I don't take these kinds of statements seriously anymore.

There is a link on the 4th page to an independent okcupid experiment which is on par with my experiment.


Asian female reply to black 17%, its the lowest in the whole group. My results on thaifriendly however were far worse. 17% on okcupid is good.

Did you have ThaiFriendly Premium? That alone will affect your messages.

If you are going to be doing experiments like this, you need some sort of valid design. Something like this perhaps.

Group A - White guys, Premium
Group B - White guys, Regular
Group C - Black guys, Premium
Group D - Black guys, Regular

And then measure reply rates.

Post: #111

^
Only my real profile was premium.
The rest of the fake profiles were regular.

But I put a lot of time into it. Every 10 mins I was sending messages to random girls from regular profiles.

Obviously its not a fool proof experiment but It gave me a vague idea.

I experiemented with a lot of other details as well.

Post: #112

Honestly there are so many variables that go into these online data figures it's not even worth arguing about. Not to mention different cultures, different countries. Is she an Asian-American? Chinese? Japanese? Filipino? What part of the country are you in? A lot of girls don't even use online. A lot of girls wouldn't even think of fucking a Black guy until they were actually fucking a Black guy, (i.e. they need to see you in person). As the late great Patrice O'neal once said: Black men are the most wanting to be fucked but can't be fucked men on the planet". Some girls may claim they wouldn't fuck a Black guy out of fear of social reprisal. It's just too many variables that's why real world experience and not Okcupid statistics, and hearsay, is absolutely necessary.

Do Asian girls like Black guys as much as White or Asian guys? On average, absolutely not. But I most often hear these claims of how much Asian girls dislike Black guys from non-Black guys who they themselves have never even fucked an Asian girl.

Post: #113

@LikeAballer

This social experiment you were conducting. Was it really the best use of your time? Would it not have been better to spend that time building up your own value to make yourself more attractive to those girls who you think don't like Turkish guys?

Never do or think anything that reinforces self-limiting beliefs.

Post: #114

RE: Asian girls.

There are always exceptions to the rule. Lately it is all I have been smashing. It is not like I have some secret or anything but I just come at these girls like any other. Too many goofy white dudes put Asian girls up on a pedestal and act weird around them, then most black guys don't even check for them because of the perceived racism the girls have or because they just don't like Asian girls; so I view it as more of a challenge to get it with them.

Location matters as well. A city full of Asian girls will expose you to girls who are more American/Western and really just white girls with more ego when you break it down, you also will find Asian girls who are Hershey Hunters and just looking to get the dark meat in as well.

The only thing I am noticing is that you can't play games with these Asian girls, they are sharp and remember everything you tell them. I can spin around white girls and lead them astray very easy and they won't call shit out but these Asian girls hold my feet to the fire always bringing up detailed points I barely even remember telling them.

The current broad I am dealing with is Asian. We could be from different planets but she is fun to fuck. Only thing we have common is that we went to the same school, I find her boring, but she seems to enjoy hanging out with me so whatever.


With Online Game....

My take is you can use your time for much better things. Being out there and social to meet girls in person/in streets where you will have much better traction. Online is a wasteland for black men and the type of ugly fatties that message you may cause you to think you are lesser than you are.

Another thing as well is that so many dudes have bad game, especially online. The sad fact is that black men get... typecasted... a lot and women will almost be default with seeing a black guy think he will come at her with the same shitty and annoying thirst game that most brothers use.

Since these Asian girls have no filter they tell me it all the time "I didn't expect you to think of me like that" or "I was surprised how easy you are to talk to" that is all female code more or less saying she didn't think I liked Asian girls (most brothers don't), and she was surprised I had some game and wasn't a thirsty goon.

Post: #115

You guys are silly. Most Asian girls don't do ONS. They are raised to find a nice and educated guy with a good career. You can bang some westernized ones at clubs or from hook up apps. Most will only date those from social circles, school, or work. In Asia you can find those who chase white guys. Some foreign exchange Chinese students will also chase white guys because of the novelty.

Being Asian, I'll give you some insight. Asian culture prizes a few things. One is education, which means money, stability, and status. Another is lighter colored skin. Historically darker colored people are lower class laborers who worked the fields. Then there are the basic physical attractions like height, body type, facial features. A white person's nose is seen as the most attractive.

Most Asian girls still date and marry Asian guys. Look at any college campus or nightclub. There are those who have white guy fetishes. In places with fewer Asian choices they will also date white guys.

Don't feel sorry for Asian guys. They have the highest marriage rate in the US even though white guys are the most desired. This picture painted of millions of single Asian guys unable to find a woman is silly. Every Asian guy I went to college with is married. Asian guys will get hooked up much sooner than other races and get married. That's why you don't see as many single mothers in the Asian community. The few excrptions are among Laotians, Cambodians, and Hmong. They are more likely to be into the gangsta rap culture. Most other Asians look down on them.

Post: #116

(12-09-2016 09:02 PM)dallasguy Wrote:  You guys are silly. Most Asian girls don't do ONS. They are raised to find a nice and educated guy with a good career. You can bang some westernized ones at clubs or from hook up apps. Most will only date those from social circles, school, or work. In Asia you can find those who chase white guys. Some foreign exchange Chinese students will also chase white guys because of the novelty.

Being Asian, I'll give you some insight. Asian culture prizes a few things. One is education, which means money, stability, and status. Another is lighter colored skin. Historically darker colored people are lower class laborers who worked the fields. Then there are the basic physical attractions like height, body type, facial features. A white person's nose is seen as the most attractive.

Most Asian girls still date and marry Asian guys. Look at any college campus or nightclub. There are those who have white guy fetishes. In places with fewer Asian choices they will also date white guys.

Don't feel sorry for Asian guys. They have the highest marriage rate in the US even though white guys are the most desired. This picture painted of millions of single Asian guys unable to find a woman is silly. Every Asian guy I went to college with is married. Asian guys will get hooked up much sooner than other races and get married. That's why you don't see as many single mothers in the Asian community. The few excrptions are among Laotians, Cambodians, and Hmong. They are more likely to be into the gangsta rap culture. Most other Asians look down on them.

You sure about that?

90% of my Asian notches are ONS. LOL.

Post: #117

(12-09-2016 05:58 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Call me a weirdo but I made many fake profiles on Thaifriendly to test the responses of girls.

Black muscular dude who was way better looking than me wasn't getting 20% of the attention I was getting. I made fake profiles of indian/asian/arab/white guy too.
My fake german profile got the most attention.

I'm a nerd when it comes to these stuff. Trust me, I did my homework.

You might say It will be different real life, on that I'll agree with you 100%.

How does this research benefit you?

You can't change your race.

I suppose you can change your ethnicity, depending on your look and your willingness to change your culture, but that could take quite a bit of time.

I understand the curiosity that drove you to do this, I'm just not seeing any upside...

Post: #118

Must be in Asia for thai ladyboys chasing white guys. LOL

You guys go to Asia and there's a billion people. You'd have to be a piece of shit not to get laid

Post: #119

(12-09-2016 09:12 PM)kosko Wrote:  You sure about that?

90% of my Asian notches are ONS. LOL.

was she missing an arm??

Post: #120

(12-09-2016 08:13 AM)mikado Wrote:  Don't give up brotha.

Definitely not giving up. By the second half of 2017 I want to double down on game.

(12-09-2016 10:36 AM)Apollo21 Wrote:  That's why as a black guy, it's even more important to do things like expand your social circles
and build deep relationships with a diversity of people. You've got to adapt and evolve your game.

Relying on the lone wolf strategy alone, as opposed to having lots of friends and getting to invited
to private events, will hold you back as a brother from meeting some amazing girls.

I prefer the lone wolf approach or with a wingman. Social circle just fucks me up completely.

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  A good looking black guy with game will fair much better than a white guy in Northern Europe. I've lived in Denmark for 3 years and a lot of my black friends were cleaning up with those amazing danish girls.
Asian women are very racist towards black men, no need to be PC about this.
Let me rephrase it, asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.


I am Turkish, and in northern Europe we are the bottom of the barrel. Even those feminist SJW's will not give the time of the day to an average looking Turk. But black guys get a lot of attention in northern Europe. I'm not saying this to bitch about northern girls being racist, honestly with the influx of islamist refugees I too would be wary of middle eastern guys. They have every right... What I do is I respect their opinion and don't go to these countries, I focus on EE instead. Black brothas should do the same. Fuck asian/american girls, go danish,swedish,Finnish.

Copenhagen and Stockholm are a goldmine for black guys who are willing to put in the effort. A muscular black guy with a suit will clean up like a motherfucker in northern europe.

Always play the game in the country you have an advantage.

If you're tied to the states its no problem. IRL I know a lot of white girls who love black guys. IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.

I 100% agree with this post. I have already planned a trip to Denmark for the next month. I really need to see what is going on in Scandinavia for myself. Theres alot of hype.

Ive never been in the asian dating market so I can't say for sure how bad it is but I have seen how much they gravitate towards white men. While most do prefer other asian i think there alot of them who prefer White Men and its actually a bit surprising.

(12-09-2016 04:53 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.

I've hooked up with a few Asian women but yeah, you're pretty spot on that most of the Asian women looking to date outside their race are only interested in white guys.

This is also my observation as well. Its one of the things that throw me off of Asian girls. The flat out obvious racism.

Other races can be racist as well but Asian women take it to a whole next level. I think they are attractive but damn am I happy they arent my number 1 preference.

Post: #121

(12-09-2016 09:02 PM)dallasguy Wrote:  You guys are silly. Most Asian girls don't do ONS. They are raised to find a nice and educated guy with a good career. You can bang some westernized ones at clubs or from hook up apps. Most will only date those from social circles, school, or work. In Asia you can find those who chase white guys. Some foreign exchange Chinese students will also chase white guys because of the novelty.

Being Asian, I'll give you some insight. Asian culture prizes a few things. One is education, which means money, stability, and status. Another is lighter colored skin. Historically darker colored people are lower class laborers who worked the fields. Then there are the basic physical attractions like height, body type, facial features. A white person's nose is seen as the most attractive.

Most Asian girls still date and marry Asian guys. Look at any college campus or nightclub. There are those who have white guy fetishes. In places with fewer Asian choices they will also date white guys.

Don't feel sorry for Asian guys. They have the highest marriage rate in the US even though white guys are the most desired. This picture painted of millions of single Asian guys unable to find a woman is silly. Every Asian guy I went to college with is married. Asian guys will get hooked up much sooner than other races and get married. That's why you don't see as many single mothers in the Asian community. The few excrptions are among Laotians, Cambodians, and Hmong. They are more likely to be into the gangsta rap culture. Most other Asians look down on them.

They probably don't fuck you asian guys on the first date because you're from the same community and they're afraid of being slut shamed. They probably don't want to hinder their chances of finding a suitable husband in the future because most Asians marry within their community. Word of mouth is huge.

This is probably one of the most misleading post on the forum. If Asian girls were hard then hordes beta white guys wouldn't flock to Thailand/Philippines for a fling. Look I've been to Cambodia,Thailand,Taiwan,Malaysia,Singapore and trust me when it comes to Asian girls LMR is basically very low compared to western girls.

And in Asian culture its an accomplishment for a girl to get married, for a guy its a normal thing. It's funny how you're bragging about guys getting married.If someone is gonna brag it should be the Asian girls, not the guys. LOL.. Seriously a guy bragging about how he can get married is one of the most BETA things I've seen.

And funny how you're looking down on laotians, LAOS is pretty damn conservative and ONS culture is not that common..

Post: #122

(12-09-2016 09:12 PM)kosko Wrote:  You sure about that?

90% of my Asian notches are ONS. LOL.

Every city is different, every postcode is different. They say Indians are hard but my boys in London were running through them like hot knives through butter during their uni days.

Location, location, location

Post: #123

(11-29-2012 06:50 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

(11-29-2012 10:27 AM)jammer Wrote:  Conservative girls are more into black guys than liberal girls. Ever notice how the South has more interracial marriage yet despite the fact that the Northeast has "tolerant" liberal girls, those girls never seriously date a black guy.

I thought I was the only guy who noticed this. I live in a super-diverse, super liberal area on the west coast, and most of the "liberal" SWPL white chicks here might as well be followers of david duke. You almost never see them with anything other than (mostly hipster looking) white guys.

You might see them with the occasional black guy, but less often than you would expect for a heavily black area. And your right it doesn't look like they take it all that seriously.

I saw a study that showed democrats are almost as (implicitly) racist as republicans, with only a slight difference in percentage lower.

Alot of people are hiding behind "tolerance" bs.

Most SJW progressive liberals are like that, especially in regions and states where their narrative is the standard. And the Northeast is notorious for racist liberals. I moved from the Northeast to fucking Utah to get away from the racism, and spoiler alert, Utah has been less racist towards me than the Northeast, especially the BosWash Shithole. The West Coast is actually more consistent with being liberal with race, but SF and LA has a lot of transplants and Northeast-style SJWism, which has been a bigger threat aganst blacks than Jim Crow, Dixiecrats and KKK combined.

IMO, the only places where liberals are racially liberal are in states and regions where their narrative is the minority.

(12-09-2016 06:39 PM)the high Wrote:  Honestly there are so many variables that go into these online data figures it's not even worth arguing about. Not to mention different cultures, different countries. Is she an Asian-American? Chinese? Japanese? Filipino? What part of the country are you in? A lot of girls don't even use online. A lot of girls wouldn't even think of fucking a Black guy until they were actually fucking a Black guy, (i.e. they need to see you in person). As the late great Patrice O'neal once said: Black men are the most wanting to be fucked but can't be fucked men on the planet". Some girls may claim they wouldn't fuck a Black guy out of fear of social reprisal. It's just too many variables that's why real world experience and not Okcupid statistics, and hearsay, is absolutely necessary.

Do Asian girls like Black guys as much as White or Asian guys? On average, absolutely not. But I most often hear these claims of how much Asian girls dislike Black guys from non-Black guys who they themselves have never even fucked an Asian girl.

From experience as a black man, Asians who aspire to go to America and especially those who are AMERICANIZED are very hateful towards black men, and in some cases even their own men. A majority of them do love white men to the point where I heard of a stat that most Asian females in America end up marrying white men.

With that being stated, there is a "group" of men whose best interest is to leverage their skin color to Asian women because they seem them as a sexual sanctuary. Whether it's because of legitimate reasons (feminism) or illegitimate ones (racial advantage), the last thing these guys would want is sexual competition. Hence, you'll have these "group" of men overstating how women of a certain race disdain men of a certain race.

But just to keep it frank, if you're black in America and looking for an Asian girl (or for that matter, Indian and Middle Easterner chicks) the same rules apply for looking a white girl as a black man: The more West you go, the easier it is. But in the case of Asians, it's a bit more amplified, meaning instead of just going to Minnesota or Texas and westward to find plenty of DTF white girls, you may have to go to Colorado or even further west to have the numbers go your favor with Asian girls. The best solution of course is to leave America, but if you're stuck in the States, the aforementioned is the best alternative.

But to loop this back home, as for black guys being a disadvantage in the 21st Century, I blame most of this on self-affliction by way of embracing the Hollywood-generated ghetto stereotype. Black men in the mid to latter 20th Century were able to hold up the masculine image without acting like criminals in order to attract hoodrat females who have no good intentions for them. If black men were to have resisted buying into the Hollywood stereotype of "blackness" and held their demeanor to what it was in the late 20th Century, especially that of the 1960s, black men would have a SMV at least equivalent to American white men.

Post: #124

Once again, Asian girls in shit poor countries like Thailand and Philippines are after the money and status of beta white guys. They are hoping they can find a westerner who will marry them out of abject poverty.

As for Asian girls in America, don't pretend you know more than I do when I grew up in their social circles and have family and friends. How many Asian cougars or older single Asian women do you see? All the girls and guys I know got married and are still married. I only know of two girls who married white guys. All of them married before 30

Post: #125

(12-11-2016 07:28 PM)dallasguy Wrote:  Once again, Asian girls in shit poor countries like Thailand and Philippines are after the money and status of beta white guys. They are hoping they can find a westerner who will marry them out of abject poverty.

As for Asian girls in America, don't pretend you know more than I do when I grew up in their social circles and have family and friends. How many Asian cougars or older single Asian women do you see? All the girls and guys I know got married and are still married. I only know of two girls who married white guys. All of them married before 30

Guys here often have a skewed perception of women from various races since they look for them in the places like clubs and bars where women who are likely to put out are commonly found. It's as if I were to judge black people as a whole by looking at the homeless guys in NYC.