(11-26-2016 03:35 AM)Traktor Wrote: Miami Cubans may just be the most obnoxious breed of humans on Earth, up there with Zionist Israeli Jews.
Perhaps those Miami Cubans, people who lived (survived) there, didn't find their homeland and Castro to be as awe inspiring and amazing as you suggest he is.
Americans are dreamers too
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If you look at a picture of the Cuba's coastline you will see beautiful beaches, breathtaking views, and clear water. However one thing is missing, boats-there are no boats on the waterfront because people would get in them and leave. Say what you will about Cuba under Castro, but people are literally dying to get out of there to come to America.
11-26-2016 03:47 AM
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(11-26-2016 03:37 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: That Cuba is still aligned with the old anti-US former communist nations is of no relevance to me whatsoever.
Communism is a murderous cancer that needlessly consumed tens of millions of lives in the previous century, and if you're bitching about globalism then it's only sour grapes that the marxists sputtered out and the the glorious people's revolution failed where the globalists are currently succeeding.
The globalists merely rebranded communism and marched on, so Castro was only fighting the old guard in new suits.
Communism stands against all freedom. It deserves to go down in history as a great evil, along with anyone who was responsible for the millions of politically motivated murders that occurred under it.
Castro was never part of this 'old guard' as you put it. He freed his country from the grip of the globalist bankers and they never forgave him for it. Same with Hafez Assad in Syria and Gaddafi in Libya. They were not part of the system, they fought it.
The globalists brought down the USSR and the socialist camp by using their Islamist proxies in places like Afghanistan and Yugoslavia. They did it in Iraq, Libya and are trying but failing in Syria. Global capitalism does not equal communism as you put it. Statements like yours means that as a genuine anti imperialist of the CCCP persuasion, I will never trust the 'Alt Right'. On the one hand condemning imperialism and globalism, but on the other, undermining the globalist movement by stabbing it in the back. Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live President Bashar al Assad. RIP to a great friend and ally of Russia, Serbia and Syria.
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11-26-2016 03:52 AM
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(11-26-2016 03:35 AM)Traktor Wrote: Miami Cubans may just be the most obnoxious breed of humans on Earth, up there with Zionist Israeli Jews.
Perhaps those Miami Cubans, people who lived (survived) there, didn't find their homeland and Castro to be as awe inspiring and amazing as you suggest he is.
Having been to Miami and met quite a few of these folks, I know otherwise.
11-26-2016 03:56 AM
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(11-26-2016 03:52 AM)Traktor Wrote: Castro was never part of this 'old guard' as you put it. He freed his country from the grip of the globalist bankers and they never forgave him for it. Same with Hafez Assad in Syria and Gaddafi in Libya. They were not part of the system, they fought it.
One murderous bastard replaces a bunch of other murderous bastards. Hooray.
Quote:The globalists brought down the USSR and the socialist camp by using their Islamist proxies in places like Afghanistan and Yugoslavia. They did it in Iraq, Libya and are trying but failing in Syria.
Thrilled at the prospect of hearing how the Afghans unjustly invaded Afghanistan and tossed out the native Russians.
Quote:Global capitalism does not equal communism as you put it. Statements like yours means that as a genuine anti imperialist of the CCCP persuasion, I will never trust the 'Alt Right'. On the one hand condemning imperialism and globalism, but on the other, undermining the globalist movement by stabbing it in the back. Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live President Bashar al Assad.
Communism failed because it's a soul sucking load of shit that treats people like farm animals and inevitably inspires roughly the same enthusiasm, regardless of how much propaganda you jam down their throats.
News flash. Tyrants seek power, whether it be in the politburo or at the UN Council for what-the-fuck-ever.
Globalism. Communism. Just tyrants in different outfits. They can all ESAD.
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11-26-2016 04:05 AM
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Castro lied, murdered, oppressed and trampled on basic human freedoms. The ends never justify the means. May history judge you and your monstrous ego accordingly.
Look at all those happy, freedom loving people- A spontaneous and free political gathering, smart phones, 24 hour panaderías with free wifi.. It stings the empty souls of those who support the barren and purposely depressive communist hells.
(11-26-2016 05:32 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote: Hey Henry Kissinger, George Soros.
Are you taking the hint yet?
Time for you fuckers to go.
Castro expelled activists from the Soros backed Center for a Free Cuba a few years ago from the island. However according to some on here, he was evil. His death is a huge blow to all genuine anti-globalists not the so called Alt Right on here who condemn globalism and Islamism on the one hand yet condemn the people who fought (Castro, Gaddafi) and are fighting it (Assad, Putin) on the other.
His funeral is scheduled for December 4th. Both Vladimir Putin and Bashar Al Assad have expressed their condolences to the Cuban people and will likely attend. The Syrian, Serbian and Russian people are in mourning. They have just lost a good friend.
So has Julian Assange
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(11-26-2016 05:44 AM)Traktor Wrote: His death is a huge blow to all genuine anti-globalists
One can dislike globalism while also correctly pointing out that the Castro regime was destructive, deadly and oppressive- the two are not mutually exclusive.
Trying to imply that one needs to or should support Castro et al in order to be a genuine anti-globalist is absurd.
Americans are dreamers too
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(11-26-2016 05:44 AM)Traktor Wrote: Castro expelled activists from the Soros backed Center for a Free Cuba a few years ago from the island. However according to some on here, he was evil. His death is a huge blow to all genuine anti-globalists not the so called Alt Right on here who condemn globalism and Islamism on the one hand yet condemn the people who fought (Castro, Gaddafi) and are fighting it (Assad, Putin) on the other.
His funeral is scheduled for December 4th. Both Vladimir Putin and Bashar Al Assad have expressed their condolences to the Cuban people and will likely attend. The Syrian, Serbian and Russian people are in mourning. They have just lost a good friend.
So has Julian Assange
OK...
End of the day, I'm an anarchist brah.
I fully realize many are too foolish to live in a state of literal anarchy. A state of little to no government.
Many require the strict embrace of the nanny-state just to feel comfortable enough to get out of bed in the morning.
Yet end of the day. You won't find me bowing down to any glorified walking meat-bag. Regardless of their title or status.
11-26-2016 06:03 AM
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(11-26-2016 05:44 AM)Traktor Wrote: His death is a huge blow to all genuine anti-globalists
One can dislike globalism while also correctly pointing out that the Castro regime was destructive, deadly and oppressive- the two are not mutually exclusive.
Trying to imply that one needs to or should support Castro et al in order to be a genuine anti-globalist is absurd.
^Deaf ears.
In fairness a soviet commissar probably has a gun to his head as he types.
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11-26-2016 06:13 AM
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(11-26-2016 05:52 AM)GlobalMan Wrote: One can dislike globalism while also correctly pointing out that the Castro regime was destructive, deadly and oppressive- the two are not mutually exclusive. Trying to imply that one needs to or should support Castro et al in order to be truly against globalism is absurd.
Disagree. Those who oppose Castro are firmly in NWO/Globalist camp and hate Putin and Assad. That's a fact. Why? because like Cuba, they see states like Russia, Syria and Iran squarely against them and their interests. I'm referring to the hard Right of which they belong and their Islamist proxies. Look at the previous posts on here condemning visionaries like Col. Gaddafi and Hafez Assad who like Castro were staunch enemies of Western imperialism and Islamism. I suggest you read up on Bashar al Assad's old man to see how in touch he was with the wider world. He was a model of righteous rule not a murderous dictator as some here have painted him. All these guys, Castro, Gaddafi, Assad and Putin were or are in sight to be taken out by the globalists. Even Wesley Clark said it here
Yugoslavia was dismantled and Milosevic murdered by the exact same powers, armed with the exact same geo-political and globalist interests that took out Iraq, Libya and are now trying to bring down Syria.
Putin and Russia is the end game. You celebrate the deaths of Col. Gaddafi, Assad and Fidel Castro - you are the useful idiots of globalism. Take off your blinkers for once. What would you prefer? Russia to be facing the globalists with Iran, China, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela and others at it's back or facing off in its own?
This is the situation we have at hand in 2016. We have a common enemy, it's globalism and the tyranny of the Soros banking elite. Do you want a multipolar world of competing states with free trade and prosperity or a global neo-feudal slavery?
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A cuban billionaire died today. A self made man who enriched himself in the business of socialism. Leaving 1B$ behind and a private island. Guess his name?
Communism is vomit. A day a communist dies is a joyful day. A teacher earns 20$ month in Cuba. Castro was against globalism but to replace it for a far worse system: Communism. If they are not different sides of same coin.
(11-26-2016 06:31 AM)chakalaka Wrote: A cuban billionaire died today. A self made man who enriched himself in the business of socialism. Leaving 1B$ behind and a private island. Guess his name?
Communism is vomit. A day a communist dies is a joyful day. A teacher earns 20$ month in Cuba. Castro was against globalism but to replace it for a far worse system: Communism. If they are not different sides of same coin.
(11-26-2016 06:26 AM)Traktor Wrote: You celebrate the deaths of Col. Gaddafi, Assad and Fidel Castro, you are the useful idiots of globalism. Take off your blinkers for once. What would you prefer? Russia to be facing the globalists with Iran, China, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela and others at it's back or facing off in its own?
When you say "you" are you referring to me personally, or to a group of people you've decided to include me in? Because I've never commented on those other figures perviously here. It seems that instead of understanding my point as I said it and mean it you are superimposing a pre-existing argument over what I say.
You are failing to understand what I'm saying. One does not have to support the terrible destructive legacy of Castro and his related death cult of communism in order to oppose globalism. One doesn't have to sing the praises of Gaddafi in order to espouse nationalism with conviction. These suggestions are just plainly dumb.
These guys are scumbags by any measure.
Maybe you must support scumbags in order to feel you are being true to the revolution, but others are free to see each country and leader for what they are individually. It is not a "fact" that if one dislikes Castro they must be opposed to Putin, or any other such strained and ridiculous logic.
North Korea and Venezuela -for Christs sake- are not some essential partners in a force for good against globalism.
Americans are dreamers too
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11-26-2016 06:46 AM
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(11-26-2016 06:26 AM)Traktor Wrote: You celebrate the deaths of Col. Gaddafi, Assad and Fidel Castro, you are the useful idiots of globalism. Take off your blinkers for once. What would you prefer? Russia to be facing the globalists with Iran, China, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela and others at it's back or facing off in its own?
When you say "you" are you referring to me personally, or to a group of people you've decided to include me in? Because I've never commented on those other figures perviously here. It seems that instead of understanding my point as I said it and mean it you are superimposing a pre-existing argument over what I say.
I don't have "blinkers" on. You are failing to understand what I'm saying. One does not have to support the terrible destructive legacy of Castro and his related death cult of communism in order to oppose globalism. One doesn't have to sing the praises of Gaddafi in order to espouse nationalism with conviction.
These guys are scumbags by any measure.
Maybe you must support scumbags in order to feel you are being true to the revolution, but others are free to see each country and leader for what they are individually, and it is not a "fact" that if one dislikes Castro they must be opposed to Putin, or any other such strained logic.
But you have just made the point that Gaddaffi, Hafez Assad and Castro were scumbags even though they were both nationalists and internationalists. All three did their damned to protect their cultures and nations from the ravages of globalist capitalism. With Gaddafi's and Assad's case the main threat was Islamic fundamentalism in the form of the CIA backed Muslim Brotherhood and Israel, fueled by the globalist desire to impose the NWO - All three along with Vladimir Putin, Slobodan Milosevic and Bashar al Assad will be long remembered for their just fight to free the world of globalist hegemonic tyranny. Long live their memories in the halls of heroes.
Putin is admired. Because he has no competition. Not entirely by his own merit. The west just degraded itself by it´s own fault to a level where a Russian dictator is the best we got. But at least he´s no communist. And he considers communism a bomb which was planted in Russia foundations.