Post: #51

There's another red pill, which will trigger most people on the forum, that the "Western Principles" aren't actually the best principles - just the best ones we have to work with in America.

The British were extremely mendacious and worse than Hitler in their actions (especially in India). You can look at a Muslim invader and know to stay away and be wary, but Europeans lulled you in with their rosy "civilization", "positive principles" and "Christianity" and then exploited you using internal Divide and Conquer methods. The European tradition is full of hypocrisy.

However, it is the best one we have right now in the West, and a lot of it's current practitioners don't know it's full ugly history or definitely don't support it. This is why I support it in the West. I have a very complicated relationship with it, but because I am wary, I accept it. With the Muslim philosophy, weather you are wary or not, they will still attack you violently. Knowledge doesn't do much, so you have to keep them out.

I have beliefs that are triggering to the normal world:

-Whites were no worse than blacks or natives.
-The Nazis were no worse than the British, the British were just on the winning side.

The converse though is also true, that whites were no better than blacks or natives in their actions. Sure western "society" seems better to us (but imagine if Muslims ruled the world now, wouldn't social conditioning mean that we would think their high culture was superior? - such as the Mughal Dawats etc) - but that civilized society was just a mask over the barbaric and monstrous nature of their conquests.

This is why I hate Ann Coulter, who is completely ignorant about the true nature of her British values that she dick rides. This is the same mindset that keeps getting us into endless wars, such as those in Iraq, which she supported.

Just as you should be allowed to have an intellectually honest discussion about Jewish influence without being a Nazi, you should be allowed to have an honest discussion about the true nature of "Western values" without being a SJW. If you claim (like Ann Coulter) that British colonization was better for all the places they colonized, you are utterly wrong and also do not sincerely believe in self determination - making you a hypocrite.

FYI, the USA was allowed to have it's freedom because the British didn't care about it anymore, they had India (that's why the USA won the revolutionary war).

The British left India much worse off, and certainly much worse off than before it was invaded by the Muslims. I don't see most people reading the Vedas anytime soon though, so the "Western Values" is what we'll run with. We don't really follow old school Western principles anyway. Most "western principles" about mathematics, science, democracy/good governance, rejecting slavery etc didn't originate from the Greeks; guess where they came from.

The reason I make this post is this: if we want to have an argument about objectively superior principles, self determination, and peace then there are some realities that you must accept. SJW's don't know what they are talking about when it comes to Imperialism, but anti-SJWs also conveniently ignore harsh realities.

(11-23-2016 04:56 PM)britchard Wrote:  The argument about America belonging to Red Indians is stupid and boring when discussed as an argument against keeping a high white demographic in the US. The (then) European whites captured and defeated the Red Indians. I am not saying this was necessarily a good or bad thing- but it was inevitable as the world was less civilized and the Europeans had far superior weaponry.

The point is that now that the whites 'own' America, it is up to them to ensure their demographic's survival. The Red Indians are gone- they are not coming back any time soon, and likely ever. Which is sad, but true. So the past in that sense should be forgotten- America became a white country, and if whites want to keep it like that, it's up to them.

Post: #52

The 'alt-right' gets painted as this jew hating, black hating, normi hating, kind of thing.

It may be all of that and more. But no one knows any more. No one cares.

When the main stream press uses it as a pejorative then it's time to go. As I alluded to earlier, it's not like anyone you ever met in a bar, would use that as an identifier for you. Just like they would not say: "Hi, I'm 'Nazi'". "Hi, I'm 'gay'". etc.

I just say: "Hi, I'm 'Rigsby' - it's your round fucker!", unless they are bigger or meaner than me, then it is: "Hi, what you drinking, Sir?".

I'm being silly I know, but still.

You're trying to tie in one catch phrase with all your personal beliefs about that system, and what it means for you. Surely those among you that do this will know it can mean a very broad reach of things, from an excuser and signaller of extreme racism to some, and for others, 'just thinking out of turn'.

My point is, this catchphrase is out of hand. It will be usurped by others for their own ends.

Like fuck I would say to someone: "I'm alt-right".

But if they said to me "I don't like those 'alt-right' - I think they must die", I might have something to say about it.

Like: "Not all alt-right are like that".

I'm not making a very good argument here and feel my whole body losing weight. I'm going to find another part of the site to shitpost on. Good luck to you on this one Gentlemen.

Post: #53

(11-23-2016 04:56 PM)britchard Wrote:  The argument about America belonging to Red Indians is stupid and boring when discussed as an argument against keeping a high white demographic in the US. The (then) European whites captured and defeated the Red Indians. I am not saying this was necessarily a good or bad thing- but it was inevitable as the world was less civilized and the Europeans had far superior weaponry.

The point is that now that the whites 'own' America, it is up to them to ensure their demographic's survival. The Red Indians are gone- they are not coming back any time soon, and likely ever. Which is sad, but true. So the past in that sense should be forgotten- America became a white country, and if whites want to keep it like that, it's up to them.

Well they are still around, but mostly in the Great Plains area. They would to effect need a small possibly Israel sized landmass in Oklahoma as their own if some kind of consistency needs to be established on the principle of "a nation for certain peoples". Because if Israel is allowed to get a home for Jews who are just as much a minority as the natives why aren't the natives allowed too?


And personally the whole meaning of the term "White" feels like garbage; Italians, Spanish, German, French, etc. have more relevance than "White". Try telling a Sicilian that he's the same as Neapolitan and they'll smack you. Or a Basque or Occitan that they're French.

It's important to bring it up because simply on the basis of something you already said aka fuck them. It's ours now. Anyways by that same train of logic there are too many minorities here as it is to be a "white" country much in the same vein as I said above.

So it begs the question are you trying to create a new American identity? And if so why does it have to be "white" instead of a mixture of what's already present here and instead getting rid of any that don't support the American identity or don't want to assimilate into it.

Post: #54

There really isnt a schism imo. Bad PR made people spooked. Think of this as the AltRight's Pussygate.

Tbh, most of the annoyance I have seen is from how so many groups went from sucking their dick about their role in the culture war so not pretending to be "above them" because of bad PR. Which makes sense, it's pretty bitchy behavior.

Fortunately they are taking advice from people like Heartiste on how to handle this

Post: #55

(11-23-2016 02:44 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  A schism was fairly inevitable. The alt-right is comprised of a lot of normal folks who've been marginalized by the Obama administration and feel as though their country couldn't care less. For example, white working class men. These groups are going to form a new type of conservatism focusing on protectionism, American nationalism (not white nationalism), etc.

Other parts of the alt-right are comprised of white nationalists, anti-Semites, and outright racists. That is, fringe groups and people whom political parties don't want to be associated with. The media unduly focuses on the more unsavory side of the alt-right while ignoring that a huge number of the alt-right couldn't give less of a fuck about white nationalism or anti-Semitism.

This is wrong in my honest opinion

Moreover the radical side is what pushed things along, the hanger-ons were just that tbh.

Post: #56

Quote:I wonder how you did on the reading comprehension portion of the SATs, because a lot of things seem to fly right over you.

I scored quite well, thanks for asking.

Quote:No one put them in the same camp (not since the 1940s anyway).

A significant part of the Alt Right does. Even some people here think that all Jews are Borg like, intent on wiping out the White race.

Quote:The funny part is you bring up Jews who pose a counterbalance to the leftist Jews and yet that's part of the problem: they dominate both sides of the debate. So what's essentially happening right now in the US is Jews on one side debating Jews on the other side with the rest of the country looking on and thinking what the fuck is going on.

You diagnosed a problem, and I agree 1000% ... but...what is your solution?

Post: #57

(11-23-2016 08:24 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 02:44 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  A schism was fairly inevitable. The alt-right is comprised of a lot of normal folks who've been marginalized by the Obama administration and feel as though their country couldn't care less. For example, white working class men. These groups are going to form a new type of conservatism focusing on protectionism, American nationalism (not white nationalism), etc.

Other parts of the alt-right are comprised of white nationalists, anti-Semites, and outright racists. That is, fringe groups and people whom political parties don't want to be associated with. The media unduly focuses on the more unsavory side of the alt-right while ignoring that a huge number of the alt-right couldn't give less of a fuck about white nationalism or anti-Semitism.

This is wrong in my honest opinion

Moreover the radical side is what pushed things along, the hanger-ons were just that tbh.

If you think the trolls and memesters did less than the 1488 racial realist crowd you might as well be deluded from reality.

That was the only way the Alt-Right got even close to mainstream appeal.

Post: #58

(11-23-2016 08:26 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 08:24 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 02:44 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  A schism was fairly inevitable. The alt-right is comprised of a lot of normal folks who've been marginalized by the Obama administration and feel as though their country couldn't care less. For example, white working class men. These groups are going to form a new type of conservatism focusing on protectionism, American nationalism (not white nationalism), etc.

Other parts of the alt-right are comprised of white nationalists, anti-Semites, and outright racists. That is, fringe groups and people whom political parties don't want to be associated with. The media unduly focuses on the more unsavory side of the alt-right while ignoring that a huge number of the alt-right couldn't give less of a fuck about white nationalism or anti-Semitism.

This is wrong in my honest opinion

Moreover the radical side is what pushed things along, the hanger-ons were just that tbh.

If you think the trolls and memesters did less than the 1488 racial realist crowd you might as well be deluded from reality.

That was the only way the Alt-Right got even close to mainstream appeal.

Who made the memes? People on /pol/ which is a board all about race and Jews. With some people just there to have fun

Post: #59

(11-23-2016 08:27 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 08:26 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 08:24 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 02:44 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  A schism was fairly inevitable. The alt-right is comprised of a lot of normal folks who've been marginalized by the Obama administration and feel as though their country couldn't care less. For example, white working class men. These groups are going to form a new type of conservatism focusing on protectionism, American nationalism (not white nationalism), etc.

Other parts of the alt-right are comprised of white nationalists, anti-Semites, and outright racists. That is, fringe groups and people whom political parties don't want to be associated with. The media unduly focuses on the more unsavory side of the alt-right while ignoring that a huge number of the alt-right couldn't give less of a fuck about white nationalism or anti-Semitism.

This is wrong in my honest opinion

Moreover the radical side is what pushed things along, the hanger-ons were just that tbh.

If you think the trolls and memesters did less than the 1488 racial realist crowd you might as well be deluded from reality.

That was the only way the Alt-Right got even close to mainstream appeal.

Who made the memes? People on /pol/ which is a board all about race and Jews

/pol/ is not your personal army. Nor is it full of 1488rs. I made a post in full about this.

(11-11-2016 01:31 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  A. "4chan" is not part of the Alt-Right

B. 4chan is dead. M00t(the founder of 4chan) let SJWs in as mods whom promptly pissed off everyone for censoring anything Gamergate related so they went 8chan instead. /pol/ only remained to a degree as it was before and all they are now on 4chan atleast is 1488 LARPERS.

C. 8chan is the new 4chan as that's where anyone who is still a troll likes to hangout. 4chan is now a place for reddit cucks to feel edgy until perhaps Milo buys it and restores anarchy. For a history of what the fuck was 4chan and why it fell apart see here.

D. The Internet Hate Machine aka the trolls of the Internet are not your personal army and never will be and never will fight for a real cause. The collective acts because it fucking can. We just liked Donald and we did it for laughs to piss off as many liberal cucks as possible.

E. Hence not part of the Alt-Right. Half of the /pol/ board on any chan site is people pretending to be Alt-Right, sharing conspiracy theories, or on the off chance undermining government authority at every turn for whatever reason then circlejerk to Nazis because why the fuck not with a few actual 1488ers or Alt Righters sprinkled in(like Weev)

E. If anyone from the Trump campaign tried to control the support from trolls they would have turned on them in a second because the only thing they like more than trolling people that get mad easily is trolling people who think that they have power over the collective.


Well that's a short intro as how trolls operate for those not familiar with the history of Internet shitposting. There are a few intricacies to understand about the darker parts of the web. Otherwise it sounds pretty bad for someone to consider themselves involved with it or talk about it without understanding any of that history or its subculture.

They aren't a part of the alt-right but they're the only reason the alt-right got any steam period. If you think any of the web's deviants follow your agenda you have another thing coming. It's just the establishment is more of a threat and creates more laughs than the alt-right......for now.


Edit: You know one last thing. It's because the 1488 racial realist crowd had no sense of humor that they never had steam going for them for years. I don't magically expect them to finally get it now. They've always been anti-fun. You actually think actual racial realists would photoshop memes of Japanese cartoons or be involved in Internet nerd culture to this degree?

Post: #60

Oh right, a board with basically all the same ideas as the altright isnt technically altright?

that's not much to hang your hat on.

The racist fringe made the memes on /pol/. Sorry. Maybe they didnt count themselves as officially altright but they didnt mind making memes with altright ideas, and even believed many of those ideas themselves.

Post: #61

(11-23-2016 08:34 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  Oh right, a board with basically all the same ideas as the altright isnt technically altright?

Because it's fucking hilarious to be a Neo-Nazi.

Quote:that's not much to hang your hat on.

It is because the people with a sense of humor did all the work.

Quote:The racist fringe made the memes on /pol/.

No they didn't actually. It was the people who actually had an idea of mainstream nerd and meme culture, which is the last thing generally that a bunch of WN 1488ers would care about(isn't that all just modern degeneracy to them?), aka the trolls and people who would try to get a rise out of the leftist victim complex. And you know what the best way to do that is to pretend to be a Neo-Nazi.

Quote: Sorry. Maybe they didnt count themselves as officially altright but they didnt mind making memes with altright ideas, and even believed many of those ideas themselves.

They don't to the degree you think they do. Otherwise Alt-right ideas would be so much more widely accepted. That mass of people is no small number.

Post: #62

I took the liberty of taking some screencaps of /pol/ right now. It's a less focused version of the TRS (therightstuff.biz) forums. Same jokes, same general atmosphere

Post: #63

(11-23-2016 07:59 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  -The Nazis were no worse than the British, the British were just on the winning side.

This just sounds like moral relativism. The British did conduct atrocities when faced with rebellion, to preserve their rule. Famously the Amritsar Massacre, but also the Boer concentration camps, and torture like the Cyprus internment.

The Nazis however had extermination intent. The British didn't round up millions of people with specific intent to destroy their kind. At worst they were about control or pushing people off their land or just exploiting them as an under-class. Their plan when they went to India was to get rich. The Nazis plan when they went to Russia was to wipe out the Slavs by starving them to death, and repopulate the space left behind with Germans.

And beside that, the Nazis shot first. It takes a very tortured twisting of history to somehow make the British out to be the aggressors and the Nazis the victims given their plans and subsequent Europe-conquering actions. They invaded Poland, the British had a defense treaty, so they declared war. "He started it" is the most basic rule of moral defense for violence there is.

Post: #64

Wanna know why its less focused? Because it's a running gag. No one is taking themselves seriously and generally it's fun stuff to meme about.

Care to explain all that modern day degeneracy?

Post: #65

(11-23-2016 08:44 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Wanna know why its less focused? Because it's a running gag. No one is taking themselves seriously and generally it's fun stuff to meme about.

Or just more people and many more shitposters. But if you think the core users of /pol/ arent racists then you're kidding yourself.

It is actually harder to believe that these thousands of posts are just a gag

Post: #66

(11-23-2016 08:45 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 08:44 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Wanna know why its less focused? Because it's a running gag. No one is taking themselves seriously and generally it's fun stuff to meme about.

Or just more people and many more shitposters. But if you think the core users of /pol/ arent racists then you're kidding yourself

It's fun cracking racist jokes and being to a degree honest about certain questions surrounding cultural/racial dynamics, but generally racial purity and all that other jazz generally isn't believed by most of them.

At best those people are 10% of that entire crowd. If you had any concept of how /pol/ developed into /pol/ today you would know that.

Post: #67

Look up the Bengal famine (Over 4 million deaths). Don't want to derail the thread any further, but again - it's hypocrisy versus showing the intent. Does it matter to the people suffering if the end result is the same?

(11-23-2016 08:43 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  And beside that, the Nazis shot first.

Some would argue that the Nazis were forced into shooting first (not necessarily by the British). There is a lot to WW2 not openly discussed. Again I won't say any more on this and derail the thread.

Post: #68

(11-23-2016 08:48 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 08:45 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 08:44 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Wanna know why its less focused? Because it's a running gag. No one is taking themselves seriously and generally it's fun stuff to meme about.

Or just more people and many more shitposters. But if you think the core users of /pol/ arent racists then you're kidding yourself

It's fun cracking racist jokes and being to a degree honest about certain questions surrounding cultural/racial dynamics, but generally racial purity and all that other jazz generally isn't believed by most of them.

At best those people are 10% of that entire crowd. If you had any concept of how /pol/ developed into /pol/ today you would know that.

Again, it's highly unlikely that a board which has caused so much trouble for other sites with its raids and willingly allowed itself to be politicized was just kidding.

It's more likely they are racist.

Sorry, I dont just believe things that you say. I honestly think you're confusing the sort of heightened extent to which they will endorse ideas in the setting of /pol/ with "not believing them at all".

Moreover, the existence of the marxist /leftypol/ exists for the leftists to congregate in. Wouldnt be needed if it was all just joking. There's also too much effort and historical minutiae about politics thrown out for it to be "just a joke"

Last screencap I took. Racial epithets so I wont be embedding

http://i.imgur.com/WpBLrA0.png

Post: #69

There is a clear difference between german and mexican migration, one has ass and titties while the other one doesn't.

The stakes are too damn high! 'murica cannot go without ass and titties.

Average german bish:


Ass and titties:

Post: #70

About a year ago, two game-aware idiots were running a coffee shop in one of the Carolinas (I think North Carolina.), when they were doxxed for having run a game-blog. (This was discussed on RVF, but I'm too tipsy and lazy to link to it.) They issued multiple tear-filled apologizes in an unsuccessful attempt to save their coffee shop. And Anonymous Bosch ripped them for their extraordinary lack of loyalty to the men who helped them self-improve.

It is rumored via Cernovich Twitter that the Richard Spencer incident has inspired Reince to argue that Mitt Romney should be appointed to Secretary of State "to show we're not extremists". I don't think Mr. Trump will take that advice, but if he does then Richard Spencer will have damaged Trump's presidency more than Hillary, the media, and Soros combined.

Richard Spencer put himself above the country, above Trump's presidency, and above all of us. Fuck him. Fuck him worse than Hillary, worse than Soros, and worse than those sell-out coffee shop hipsters.

Post: #71

(11-23-2016 08:53 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 08:48 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 08:45 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 08:44 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Wanna know why its less focused? Because it's a running gag. No one is taking themselves seriously and generally it's fun stuff to meme about.

Or just more people and many more shitposters. But if you think the core users of /pol/ arent racists then you're kidding yourself

It's fun cracking racist jokes and being to a degree honest about certain questions surrounding cultural/racial dynamics, but generally racial purity and all that other jazz generally isn't believed by most of them.

At best those people are 10% of that entire crowd. If you had any concept of how /pol/ developed into /pol/ today you would know that.

Again, it's highly unlikely that a board which has caused so much trouble for other sites with its raids and willingly allowed itself to be politicized was just kidding.

It's more likely they are racist.

Sorry, I dont just believe things that you say. I honestly think you're confusing the sort of heightened extent to which they will endorse ideas in the setting of /pol/ with "not believing them at all".

Moreover, the existence of the marxist /leftypol/ exists for the leftists to congregate in. Wouldnt be needed if it was all just joking. There's also too much effort and historical minutiae about politics thrown out for it to be "just a joke"

Last screencap I took. Racial epithets so I wont be embedding

http://i.imgur.com/WpBLrA0.png

https://8ch.net/pol/catalog.html

Is even worse.

Post: #72

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/80...6261642240

This is how you do it and not cuck.

Post: #73

I don't really understand all of the defensiveness coming from Mike. Is it because he interviewed Spencer in his film? Anyways, Mike got involved in politics to build his brand — even though he used to pride himself with the fact that he never participated in it or discussed it. After going full steam ahead on the Trump train (and GamerGate) he blew up virtually over night.

But now his entire brand is based around appealing to this alt-right shit and he's basically being trashed by the very people he tried to appeal to in his twitter crusades. I liked seeing him call out SJWs early on and fighting some good fights, but now he's just too pretentious and over embellishes everything; he's borderline Alex Jones with some of his assumptions these days and he needs to mellow out a bit.

I do like Mike and look forward to his material once this gay ass political hype blows over (whenever that is.)

Post: #74

I was at the AltRight NPI Conference.. It was a lot of fun. We celebrated in Washington DC, in the heart of the beast, like warriors that has just conquered an empire.

95% of the things that have been written about the conference on twitter, MSM and on here are simply not true.

Overall, the freakout from the cucks and MSM over this salute stuff is 10x more hilarious than the left's freakout after Trump won.

This guy has a pretty good analysis, I recommend watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_4UDGLoE1Y

Post: #75

(11-23-2016 07:59 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  There's another red pill, which will trigger most people on the forum, that the "Western Principles" aren't actually the best principles - just the best ones we have to work with in America.

The British were extremely mendacious and worse than Hitler in their actions (especially in India). You can look at a Muslim invader and know to stay away and be wary, but Europeans lulled you in with their rosy "civilization", "positive principles" and "Christianity" and then exploited you using internal Divide and Conquer methods. The European tradition is full of hypocrisy.

However, it is the best one we have right now in the West, and a lot of it's current practitioners don't know it's full ugly history or definitely don't support it. This is why I support it in the West. I have a very complicated relationship with it, but because I am wary, I accept it. With the Muslim philosophy, weather you are wary or not, they will still attack you violently. Knowledge doesn't do much, so you have to keep them out.

I have beliefs that are triggering to the normal world:

-Whites were no worse than blacks or natives.
-The Nazis were no worse than the British, the British were just on the winning side.

The converse though is also true, that whites were no better than blacks or natives in their actions. Sure western "society" seems better to us (but imagine if Muslims ruled the world now, wouldn't social conditioning mean that we would think their high culture was superior? - such as the Mughal Dawats etc) - but that civilized society was just a mask over the barbaric and monstrous nature of their conquests.

This is why I hate Ann Coulter, who is completely ignorant about the true nature of her British values that she dick rides. This is the same mindset that keeps getting us into endless wars, such as those in Iraq, which she supported.

Just as you should be allowed to have an intellectually honest discussion about Jewish influence without being a Nazi, you should be allowed to have an honest discussion about the true nature of "Western values" without being a SJW. If you claim (like Ann Coulter) that British colonization was better for all the places they colonized, you are utterly wrong and also do not sincerely believe in self determination - making you a hypocrite.

FYI, the USA was allowed to have it's freedom because the British didn't care about it anymore, they had India (that's why the USA won the revolutionary war).

The British left India much worse off, and certainly much worse off than before it was invaded by the Muslims. I don't see most people reading the Vedas anytime soon though, so the "Western Values" is what we'll run with. We don't really follow old school Western principles anyway. Most "western principles" about mathematics, science, democracy/good governance, rejecting slavery etc didn't originate from the Greeks; guess where they came from.

The reason I make this post is this: if we want to have an argument about objectively superior principles, self determination, and peace then there are some realities that you must accept. SJW's don't know what they are talking about when it comes to Imperialism, but anti-SJWs also conveniently ignore harsh realities.

(11-23-2016 04:56 PM)britchard Wrote:  The argument about America belonging to Red Indians is stupid and boring when discussed as an argument against keeping a high white demographic in the US. The (then) European whites captured and defeated the Red Indians. I am not saying this was necessarily a good or bad thing- but it was inevitable as the world was less civilized and the Europeans had far superior weaponry.

The point is that now that the whites 'own' America, it is up to them to ensure their demographic's survival. The Red Indians are gone- they are not coming back any time soon, and likely ever. Which is sad, but true. So the past in that sense should be forgotten- America became a white country, and if whites want to keep it like that, it's up to them.

When the Left won the culture war, they went too far and said, "Everything white is evil."

Obviously that's wrong.

But them pounding that "white is wrong" drum for so long helped create the backlash of the Alt-Right and white nationalist supporters who say, "Everything white is perfect," which is just a mirror darkly of the American left.

Both sides--whether it's the Left playing minority politics, or the Alt-Right promoting white nationalism/victimhood/woe-is-me--just make me realize how cancerous identity politics are.

I have a lot in common with the Alt-Right, but I would have no problem if it goes through a civil war to expel the white nationalists so *the rest of us* can get on with the business of real politics.