(11-09-2016 11:45 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  I think we all owe Europe a debt, without their historic mistakes to show us the way, we may never have known President Trump. This was our "Marshal Plan".

True but it came at a huge cost. Because the recent Gatestone update confirms to me that Germany is already lost, France probably as well. Sad thing is that the majority of Germans don't even realize it as they all live in their own little bubbles.

I had a chat with young German girl on vacation the other day. She's from the very North of Germany (Friesland) and told me that they never had any problems up there. She was clearly completely oblivious to the changes in her country and didn't seem very interested in discussing it either. Thus I decided to not waste my time and wished her best of luck on her return.

(11-10-2016 05:53 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-09-2016 11:45 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  I think we all owe Europe a debt, without their historic mistakes to show us the way, we may never have known President Trump. This was our "Marshal Plan".

True but it came at a huge cost. Because the recent Gatestone update confirms to me that Germany is already lost, France probably as well. Sad thing is that the majority of Germans don't even realize it as they all live in their own little bubbles.

I had a chat with young German girl on vacation the other day. She's from the very North of Germany (Friesland) and told me that they never had any problems up there. She was clearly completely oblivious to the changes in her country and didn't seem very interested in discussing it either. Thus I decided to not waste my time and wished her best of luck on her return.

It is as I read recently at paper written by high intelligence officer & CFR member - with the information situation there is no excuse for stupidity and idgnorence.

The will is only divided between the information winners and the loser. The latter simply believe everything told to them, watch TV and the mainstream sites and actually are as trusting as before. Even if they are critical of the government they do not question at least one of the 100 newspapers given to them by the very same group who own the politicians and the newspapers.

On the other side you have the winners or at least the aware ones. What the globalist of course called the winners were the ones willing to use their superior minds to not only see through the cons of the elite, but also willing to work for the money elite. At the very least a winner is someone who can see the cons, but profits from it accumulating great wealth and power (for example: owning electric car or solar power panel business while not buying the crap of "global warming").

For the girl from Friesland - she will meet diversity pretty late since her region is far away from it and pretty idyllic. It also shows the usual conditioning of the masses in school, college and mass-media. It has taken.

My example from Poland? The mainstream media is the same here, but the girls - a majority knows that the rapefugees cannot be trusted. Here the globalists have still some work to do. It might take them a few more years or decades.

In other news - Merkel doing it again - going full SJW-berserk:

http://newobserveronline.com/now-merkel-...ks-asylum/

Quote:According to Michael Roth, the Socialist Party of Germany (SPD) Minister of State for Europe at the German Federal Foreign Office, “All critical spirits in Turkey should know that the federal government is in solidarity with them.”

The SPD politician—who is part of Merkel’s ruling coalition—said that “Germany is a cosmopolitan country and is open to all politically persecuted persons. You can apply for asylum in Germany. This is true not only for journalists.

“What is currently happening in Turkey has nothing to do with our understanding of European values, the rule of law, democracy, and media freedom,” Roth said.

It is really funny - since Erdogan is now moving towards an Islamic republic he is cracking skulls. But offering asylum TO ANYONE FROM TURKEY - means that millions of unemployed, underemployed, unhappy, sexually frustrated men can go and claim being persecuted by the Erdogan regime. A regime by the way that has record support by the population, but hey - if it gets you a stay in Germany, then who cares what you need to say?

Jeez - that bitch needs to disappear ASAP as well.

(11-10-2016 08:26 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  In other news - Merkel doing it again - going full SJW-berserk:

http://newobserveronline.com/now-merkel-...ks-asylum/

Quote:According to Michael Roth, the Socialist Party of Germany (SPD) Minister of State for Europe at the German Federal Foreign Office, “All critical spirits in Turkey should know that the federal government is in solidarity with them.”

The SPD politician—who is part of Merkel’s ruling coalition—said that “Germany is a cosmopolitan country and is open to all politically persecuted persons. You can apply for asylum in Germany. This is true not only for journalists.

“What is currently happening in Turkey has nothing to do with our understanding of European values, the rule of law, democracy, and media freedom,” Roth said.

It is really funny - since Erdogan is now moving towards an Islamic republic he is cracking skulls. But offering asylum TO ANYONE FROM TURKEY - means that millions of unemployed, underemployed, unhappy, sexually frustrated men can go and claim being persecuted by the Erdogan regime. A regime by the way that has record support by the population, but hey - if it gets you a stay in Germany, then who cares what you need to say?

Jeez - that bitch needs to disappear ASAP as well.

Reposting this here from the European Invasion thread as I think it's applicable here as well:

If the response to Trump's victory has shown me anything then it is the Achille's heel of the Marxists - their hubris and egotism. The past 20 years of brainwashing across the West has created a generation of social psychopaths which is unable to empathize with any alternate political or social perspective. Which explains the violent and emotional response to Hillary's loss. They simply do not understand it as in their minds her victory was ordained and would have been the 'right and just' scenario. Where do you guys think a heinous term like 'politically correct' finds its origins.

When dealing with Libtards you need to approach the situation with the expectation of dealing with a fanatical (and possibly violent) psychopath. No matter what you say or do will appease or convince such a mentally disturbed person. And that applies doubly to most Millenials which I consider borderline socially dysfunctional.

On the surface this may be discouraging as some people on our side who may have been hoping that a Trump victory would pave the way for a more productive and happier future for us all. If you believe(d) that then you will quickly learn that nothing could be further from the truth. Libtards and especially Millenials suffer from similar mental conditioning as religious sect members and should be treated as such. Some may be able to be saved but the majority of them will be unable to return to society and live a normal life. I expect many of them to go underground and live out their lives in frustration and full of hate.

On the plus side however the doubling down we are now seeing is what will in the end accomplish the exact opposite of the intended outcome. The Left in the U.S. will quickly learn that a Republican controlled White House and Congress will have little interest in yielding to its demands and emotional appeals.

Similarly over in Europe Brussels has continued its suicidal trajectory and there will be increasing hell to pay with a slew of regional and national elections scheduled over the coming year (most importantly in Germany and then France). It doesn't require a crystal ball to predict that we will most likely see a significant shift toward the right which in turn will cause the Left to double down even harder. Politically it will end up consuming itself but unfortunately for most of Northern Europe it is already too late as the dice have been cast and its (Islamic) future has been sealed.

After our magnificent victory I fervently hope that America can be saved knowing that at least half the country will be working hard toward a more prosperous and sustainable future.

I remember when Dover & Calais were where dreams were made or crushed. Duty-free alcohol in Calais and a thirsty populace just across the moat? Perfect recipe for the French to get Roast beef £££

I wasn't old enough to participate in such schemes but the worst thing you saw was van loads of cigs getting impounded by customs and English citizens getting a ton of booze and trying to skip Customs

I remember being in Dover once in my teens and the fireworks were going off. My dad commented on how the immigrants would see it as "Welcome to England" This was more than 15 years ago and nobody knew what was coming.

Quote:Angela Merkel is warned that the 'Trump effect' will see a surge in votes for right-wing populists across Europe unless mainstream parties begin to listen to voters

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z4PdGR62HQ
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Quote:However, a Politbarometer poll for broadcaster ZDF showed 82 percent of Germans view Trump's win as bad or very bad.
Experts also argue that Germany's political system was designed after World War Two specifically to avoid the rise of a dictator after Hitler, and that social divisions are narrower than in the U.S.
The poll also showed that 65 percent of Germans expect relations with the U.S. to deteriorate under Trump.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z4PdGKAT8H
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Of course the polls are all manipulated as usual, but it shows that most Germans get their news from the mainstream media which is all against Trump in Germany.



Meat on the table they are. It's sad, but too true.



http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/

AFD poll gets 13.5% - sure the poll may be incorrect and they might reach 20%, but that is still shit. Voting for any other party is like voting for Rubio/Jeb Bush or Clinton - all the fucking same.

Germany and Sweden will be seen in future times as countries where the elites successfully convinced them to eliminate themselves. Future schools in Japan and China will learn about this madness. They will learn how the countries invited their own enemies and later went to war with the very same people. After the war Germany and Sweden was no more, since the indigenous people and culture was gone anyway.

I remind folk about what Trump said:

Quote:Donald Trump says attacks on France, Germany their own fault
Donald Trump said that it was happening because Germany and France allowed people to come into their territory.

Quote:Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on Sunday said that France, Germany and other nations hit by terror attacks recently had only themselves to blame “because they allowed people to come into their territory.”
Trump, who has been in favour of suspending immigration from what he calls countries “compromised by terrorism” until vetting mechanisms are in place, said, “We have problems in Germany, and we have problems in France” during an interview on NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’.
“They have been compromised by terrorism, they have totally been. And you know why? It’s their own fault. Because they allowed people to come into their territory,” he said.

History will remember those words even when Germany is long gone.

Shit I guess I should've tossed a few bones to Le Pen in the france election.

Too much doom and gloom in this thread.

Zel, you should be able to recognize that Europe does not mind Trump's policy so much as his personality and manners. He is simply crass and boisterous, an unmannered buffoon who doesn't have the good breeding to downplay his wealth and achievements. This is the European way and that is what they respond to.

(11-10-2016 03:22 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Too much doom and gloom in this thread.

Zel, you should be able to recognize that Europe does not mind Trump's policy so much as his personality and manners. He is simply crass and boisterous, an unmannered buffoon who doesn't have the good breeding to downplay his wealth and achievements. This is the European way and that is what they respond to.

Then they are as brainwashed as the SJWs who see just a white heterosexual male.

And no - most Europeans honestly believe the media which has demonized Trump. Sure - they made fun of him as a reality TV star and his personality is way too loud for the European mindset - even as a celebrity he would be. Actually Trump's proposals - even the doable economic ones are pretty good and could work well enough. And a wall? Seriously unguarded borders do work out pretty well for Europe, hm? The Spanish have stopped their invasion by erecting giant fences and patroling their coast. Walls do work and the US is 1000 times more wealthy than Spain.

But seriously - you gotta take the facts into consideration - especially when your countries are being literally raped by traitors.

Lots of people will quickly come around to Trump, wait and see.

(11-10-2016 03:22 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Too much doom and gloom in this thread.

Zel, you should be able to recognize that Europe does not mind Trump's policy so much as his personality and manners. He is simply crass and boisterous, an unmannered buffoon who doesn't have the good breeding to downplay his wealth and achievements. This is the European way and that is what they respond to.

They key difference between Europeans and Americans is that Europeans instinctively hate successful and rich people of all stripes while Americans love and respect them (up to a point). Which is why middle class entrepreneurism has never been common here in Europe and was always relegated to being the exception. In the U.S. almost everyone dreams of owning their own business and becoming wealthy. In Europe people believe that being mediocre ought to be good enough for everyone. The only exception is royalty which they still secretly adore although you will never hear anyone speak well of them. In a nutshell - Europeans are horrible snobs and borderline communists. It varies from country to country, less in Germany, but most definitely it's more pronounced in France and the Mediterranean. If you're rich you can't just park your Porsche or Mercedes out in the streets as you're most likely going to get keyed within the first week. The envy and butthurt is omnipresent in Europe and that is why the rich don't rub it in outside of their wealthy enclaves.

A person like Trump could never be successful politically in Europe for that very reason. People would hate him just for the fact that he's rich and that he fucks beautiful women. This is actually one of the main reasons I'm considering to return to the United States. I do love the people here but to some extent I also hate them as they are terribly mediocre, snobbish, and as I said borderline communist.

TL;DR version: Europeans do not understand American politics. From their perspective an American democrat is a borderline right extreme Neo Nazi sympathizer ;-)

Quote: ... most Europeans honestly believe the media...

I second this, its amazing to see how little if at all does the average Joe in Europe questions the source of their media. Whether its vegan kids from uni reading "LSD jesus for marxists" or Basti the Bauman/Vicente the plummer watching the evening news on tv while cracking a beer aftet a long day of work

The arrogance of the people is amazing. They think they are the centre of enlightenment, the USA is evil and the world is bad because of the sins of their fathers.

Anyway its like in the USA, the public opinion is in the hand of a few people that have the loudest voice for their agenda.
I sometimes had polls how Germans think about this:

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/...ik-ab.html

Quote:More than 60 per cent of the Germans saw their country as an immigration country, while 90 per cent of the population believed that the number of refugees admitted per year should be limited.

81 per cent of Germans were in favor of the reintroduction of controls at German borders, almost every second (46 per cent).

So many see it critical and dislike that in the parliament everyone did agree with Merkel and there was not even a discussion about her decision. Also a research did show that 82 % of the media did report Pro Refugees, 16 % neutral and only 2 % critical.

(11-10-2016 04:23 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 03:22 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Too much doom and gloom in this thread.

Zel, you should be able to recognize that Europe does not mind Trump's policy so much as his personality and manners. He is simply crass and boisterous, an unmannered buffoon who doesn't have the good breeding to downplay his wealth and achievements. This is the European way and that is what they respond to.

They key difference between Europeans and Americans is that Europeans instinctively hate successful and rich people of all stripes while Americans love and respect them (up to a point). Which is why middle class entrepreneurism has never been common here in Europe and was always relegated to being the exception. In the U.S. almost everyone dreams of owning their own business and becoming wealthy. In Europe people believe that being mediocre ought to be good enough for everyone. The only exception is royalty which they still secretly adore although you will never hear anyone speak well of them. In a nutshell - Europeans are horrible snobs and borderline communists. It varies from country to country, less in Germany, but most definitely it's more pronounced in France and the Mediterranean. If you're rich you can't just park your Porsche or Mercedes out in the streets as you're most likely going to get keyed within the first week. The envy and butthurt is omnipresent in Europe and that is why the rich don't rub it in outside of their wealthy enclaves.

A person like Trump could never be successful politically in Europe for that very reason. People would hate him just for the fact that he's rich and that he fucks beautiful women. This is actually one of the main reasons I'm considering to return to the United States. I do love the people here but to some extent I also hate them as they are terribly mediocre, snobbish, and as I said borderline communist.

TL;DR version: Europeans do not understand American politics. From their perspective an American democrat is a borderline right extreme Neo Nazi sympathizer ;-)

Yes, it is true. It's not quite that easy though, the flipside is that you don't have those trashy bling-bling arrogant rich people like you have in many countries. Flashing wealth without class is frowned upon, most European fashion brands are low key, subtle. Good or bad? There are major differences, UK is a class society every bit as cuthroath as the US. Germany, Scandinavia, Netherlands are more egalitarian, where rich people are still expected to play nice when meeting and talking to less fortunate people. It's good and bad to every model then.

Europe is definitely sort of living on the scraps of the former empires, stuck in the past and unwilling to seize the will to power and think big again. America has that. Europe is still the cultural bastion of the West, though that too is changing.

Simple explanation why rape is on the rise in the West. No hijab = rape. Although Muslim countries do have higher numbers of rape even when Hijabs are obligatory. Egyptian girls clearly describe that no matter what they wear - they are getting harrassed non-stop nonetheless in Egypt.

Ah well - does not matter much - saw this in the meme thread:



I recently shared a vid where one Muslim man said that a woman has 2 options after getting raped:

1) Become a prostitute
2) Marry the rapist and serve him sexually

Simple solutions to a simple world.

If this were a rule I guess, then every 8 and 9 would have a line of wannabe-rapists following her. She would need armed SWAT teams to defend herself.

Also - ideology trumps everything - it is never about race:


A solid thank you to the Amish by the way who made the election of the new president with balls possible.

(11-10-2016 05:25 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  A person like Trump could never be successful politically in Europe for that very reason. People would hate him just for the fact that he's rich and that he fucks beautiful women. This is actually one of the main reasons I'm considering to return to the United States. I do love the people here but to some extent I also hate them as they are terribly mediocre, snobbish, and as I said borderline communist.

TL;DR version: Europeans do not understand American politics. From their perspective an American democrat is a borderline right extreme Neo Nazi sympathizer ;-)

Yes, it is true. It's not quite that easy though, the flipside is that you don't have those trashy bling-bling arrogant rich people like you have in many countries. Flashing wealth without class is frowned upon, most European fashion brands are low key, subtle. Good or bad? There are major differences, UK is a class society every bit as cuthroath as the US. Germany, Scandinavia, Netherlands are more egalitarian, where rich people are still expected to play nice when meeting and talking to less fortunate people. It's good and bad to every model then.

Europe is definitely sort of living on the scraps of the former empires, stuck in the past and unwilling to seize the will to power and think big again. America has that. Europe is still the cultural bastion of the West, though that too is changing.
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There are different reasons for the mentalities with wealth in Europe - anti-capitalism sentiment in the 1970s, Antifa, Catholicism, overstressed egalitarianism, Italian mafia in Italy etc.

The US has another problem - some said that even the poor working 3 jobs or the quasi homeless consider them only temporary inconvenienced millionaires. The wealthy class have actually managed to let the Americans forget that abject poverty in factory towns or the working class existed righ up until the 1940s and even up until the 1970s in some areas where the last factory towns were closed. The rise of the middle class was possible with an incredibly high income tax (up to 70% in the 1950s) and massive unions. That way a manual steel worker (no education - just tough but simple work) could outearn a current corporate manager. He made enough money to buy a house, 2 cars and upkeep a family of 4. The houses was paid off within 7 years by the time he was 27 if he started the job at 20. That American dream ended in the 1970s.



Either way - the past is past.

What is the current sentiment? It is not the 1970s even in Western Europe.

You can drive flashy cars in most Middle European countries while having roaring parties. Loud rich men waltz around too. The same goes for Eastern Europe. It is even more acceptable in Eastern Europe and safer for your car strangely enough because the Russian/Belarus car thieves rather frequent Western Europe for their booty.
Southern Europe depends on how strong the mafia is locally and Northern Europe with Denmark upwards is the king of understatement. I knew a family personally in Denmark who made 10 mio. EURO in net assets and when the man of the house (who built the empire) wanted to buy a mercedes S-class his wife had a massive hissy fit about it. They had a big fight until he finally conceded and bought a Volkswagen with plenty of hidden luxuries (which ended up to cost almost 100k , but it was not a Mercedes).

Both approaches go too far in my opinion. The poor should not view themselves as inconvenienced rich. High labor union wages are their best bet at having a decent life. Most people cannot compete with the small minority who are smarter, stronger and far better connected or born wealthy. I prefer a country where everyone is at least doing ok - like Switzerland or like the US has been up until the 1970s. On the other hand this forced understatement of some European states like Denmark is revolting to me as well. You should not be afraid of your success.

Either way - this changes too in Northern Europe and also Western Europe. Car burning is a big hobby of the diversity. And most cars burnt are not even upper middle class, but average. For the newcomers even owning any car is a big slap into their face as they are occupying a constant underclass:

Quote:The Mystery of Scandinavia's Car-Burning Spree
Hundreds of cars have been torched in recent months, but why?

Quote:What’s behind the spate of vehicle arsons that have swept Scandinavia’s cities this year? Over the summer, cars have been set on fire across the region in a spree that shows no sign of abating just yet.

Between June and mid-August, 134 vehicles were set ablaze in Stockholm, 43 in Sweden’s second city of Gothenburg, and 108 in its third city, Malmö. Meanwhile, across the water in Copenhagen, there were 30 arson attacks on vehicles in August alone, until the arrest of a 21-year-old suspect led police to hope the streak would end. It didn’t, and this week Copenhagen’s car burnings began again, as they also did in neighboring areas of Sweden. Internationally at least, this isn’t what people expect from a region that is usually a byword for prosperity and social order.

http://www.citylab.com/crime/2016/09/car...rk/499997/

By the way that article is not satire.

Those morons truly "don't know what is fueling those mysterious car burnings".

Low-IQ undisciplined immigrants with massive aggressive potential, disdain for the European culture and people, with high expectations but little actual results - that fuels this.

The current economic model has dwindling jobs for those men (even the local 100-IQ Europeans have a 10% net unemployment rate) and low growth. If this were the 1970s of Sweden then 100% of those men could have had jobs and could afford a car. No reason to torch one down - yours could be next.

Ah well - life will go on.

Had some talk again, the main point is always the same. Its our moral duty, we can't do this, why do they bother you?
Personal my opinion is not the ultimate truth, I try to balance it, base it on facts and I can be wrong as well. On other things you just interpret the facts different. Still what I see with those people they ignore every argument and bring in their feelings. This was mention here many times before and this is our biggest enemy. You can silence your enemy always when you say, you hurt me emotional. Because emotions don't care about facts, arguments, discussion or logic. And this is the main agenda and danger of the left wing ideology. We are still not in the position to control the public opinion. I truly believe many people are with us but don't dare to speak out because then they will become social outcast, maybe even lose their jobs and existence. Its truly a cultural war.

^^^

Parzival - I'm going to save you a lot of frustration and time going forward. So read this very carefully and perhaps meditate on it over the weekend: The current generation of Germans has been brainwashed since childhood and their mental conditioning is tantamount to that of a religious sect member. As a German you may remember those Hare Krishna freaks - they used to be very common on the streets back in the 1980s. Anyway, what you are dealing with are people who have been and continue to be bombarded with a political agenda on a daily basis. I mean just pop up welt.de today (one of the more conservative newspapers actually) and you'll see a full page of Trump busting articles. As an emasculated hipster who has had a liberal lifestyle ingrained into their frontal cortex since childhood this shit only serves to amplify the current status quo - the political agenda of the Left.

You cannot compete with that and trying to fight it would be like attempting to fight windmills like Don Quixote. You are wasting your time and theirs. Just consider this: With all the shit that's been going on in Europe and especially Germany over the past two years, would anyone with half a brain still re-elect Merkel or any of the other liberal leaning parties? Well, guess what - at least half of the German population would. A century ago a shitbag like Merkel would have been tarred and feathered and then carried out of Berlin on a rail. But that crop of German genetics has been destroyed in two world wars and whatever was left was crushed under the boots of Marxist conditioning for the past seventy years. There are no more Prussians my friend and whatever remains of proud Bavaria will soon be converted into an Islamic Sharia dominated cesspool.

You will not be able to wake them up or do anything to help them avoid the inevitable. They are already history - their entire culture is doomed because they themselves have abandoned it after decades of being shamed for their past. I truly pity them to some extend but I also despise them for being so malleable and so weak.

Do yourself a favor. Stop caring. Stop trying to convince them. Let them learn the hard way. You are WAY WAY ahead of the curve and have already taken the right steps by moving to Austria. Their culture is actually a lot more traditional and pure than that of Germany these days. There may be hope for them but their geographical vicinity to Germany may turn into a huge problem for them a few decades from now. Their best protection is the difficult terrain of the Alps, which makes it more defensible. So dig in there but make sure that you also plan way ahead in case Austria falls as well. I already told you that you should starting learning Spanish or whatever language is spoken in your alternate destination. It takes years to become fluent and any time spent now will pay off big time later.

Don't be a victim. Be prepared. Learn how to fight. Learn how to survive. Learn how to live on a small budget if you have to. Learn languages. Keep a low profile and stay out of trouble. Don't get into debt. And once again - don't waste time trying to de-program the sheep. For they are lost and most of them cannot be saved.

(11-11-2016 01:58 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  http://www.citylab.com/crime/2016/09/car...rk/499997/

By the way that article is not satire.

Those morons truly "don't know what is fueling those mysterious car burnings".

Low-IQ undisciplined immigrants with massive aggressive potential, disdain for the European culture and people, with high expectations but little actual results - that fuels this.

The current economic model has dwindling jobs for those men (even the local 100-IQ Europeans have a 10% net unemployment rate) and low growth. If this were the 1970s of Sweden then 100% of those men could have had jobs and could afford a car. No reason to torch one down - yours could be next.

Ah well - life will go on.

I wonder if the Swedish government's solution to the problem will be a sweeping mandate that all citizens ride more bicycles from now on.

Then whe savages start burning bicycles maybe they can go back to horse and buggy. If they burn the horses and buggies..well back to people pushing around a cart with stone wheels flintstones style.

(11-10-2016 05:10 PM)Parzival Wrote:  The arrogance of the people is amazing. They think they are the centre of enlightenment, the USA is evil and the world is bad because of the sins of their fathers.

Tonight was another night I was just going to lurk, till I saw this post.

This post has been a long time coming. Wanted to put it in to the Trump thread, but didn't want to be a downer.

European people are even more arrogant than British people. And that is saying something. Europeans look down on us Brits, the way we look down on you Yanks. Then again, we do give them something to look down upon - lots of pissed up hooligans going on stag parties etc. etc...

But I'm not talking about Europeans here, I'm talking about Brits.

On the whole, we really look down on the American people. Not just indifference, in fact, we actually despise you, quite a few of us, a lot of the time.

This goes for the well educated that know better, and it goes for the dumb numpties that know nothing at all. Makes no difference - they don't like Yanks!

The fact that Trump has got in to office only reinforces their contempt. They have about, whooo, say, about, four or five major stereotypes of Yanks. That ranges from the badly dressed but successful preppy Harvard/Yale graduate, to the ghetto ass B-Boys doing no good in the hood. Everything in between.

What you Americans must start to understand, now that the world has got smaller, and the internet has got bigger, and the fact is that many of us are very much on your side, is the fact that you are actually 'hated' more than any newcomer from the Middle East. You could swan around the East End with impunity should you be from one of the 'hotter' countries, but to be heard to speak with an American accent? Not good. You would be pounced on.

Gentlemen, you are at a disadvantage.

I have no answer or remedy to this sad state of affairs, other than to say: take it with the good grace that you can - take it hard and on the chin - your superior knowledge in world affairs (a lot of the time) should shine through. Good humour, situational awareness and a strong back wins the day, every time.

I'm talking about in the flesh meetings and I'm talking about internet ramblings as well.

I'm pretty sure most of my British brethren will back me up. We are a pretty exceptional bunch here. Most of us have personal ties or experience with 'America' itself. I don't doubt there may be a few who say 'rubbish' to what I have said. But on the whole, it will be hard for anyone from this septic isle to refute my general viewpoint, and still look me in the eye.

But we are 'winnable' with your inimitable charm.

Those on the continent, not so much!

They look down on everyone, being the cradle of modern civilization that they are (in their eyes).

The Independent newspaper has run almost 10 hatchet jobs today on Trump. Fighting for your life kind of stuff.

Europe is pretty much finished now, and this is why I post this here, and not in the main Trump thread. Things aren't so great for me at the moment, and I know that some UK lads are doing very well. So be it. I wish them well.

We have no go areas and ghettos here now in the UK. It's a right mess.

I've rambled too much. I'll try and put this up and hope it makes sense.

God bless you all anyway, gentlemen.

^ To add to this post.

Muslim rape gangs in towns and cities across UK? No fight back.

Polish and other EE people supposedly taking your jawbs? Why lets go murder a few of them and burn their shops down! Perfect. Do not trust the British government or the majority of British people.

People are dissatisfied - here you have folk demonstrating at the German unity day as Merke is at church. I am frankly surprised she is not at a mosque bowing down to her new masters and paying the Jizya with submission:





Even RT is calling the crowd far-right!

And the worst thing is that yes - only 30% at the most will vote for Merkel now - maybe even less. But the people are not aware of the fact that the other parties except AFD will do exactly the same as Merkel.

That is why the Austrians do not trust the current government despite them saying that they will stop the migration madness. They doubt the words of those politicians because words are easy. They just need to go out on the street and see the numbers of the rapefugees swelling every week. So they know that the politicians just want to say one thing while doing another. If you have open borders with other EU states, you have no border control. Even Switzerland has open borders and any begging and raping Muhammed can come over. What is mostly stopping them to do much harm in Switzerland is the lack of pretty girls.

Europe is not gone yet and a proxy of it will remain, but this will end in a terrible bloodbath one day.

Trump's victory might give rise to more people voting for the few parties who might do something. Frankly it will be too late to stop the big war.

(11-11-2016 06:23 PM)redpillage Wrote:  ^^^

Parzival - I'm going to save you a lot of frustration and time going forward.

You are right. I don't debate with random people just sometimes it happens that you have a talk with people that you have to deal with more. I try to avoid political topics quite a lot - because I can't change the big game and I know a positive debate is mostly not possible.

I consider myself a reasonable man, I not only go to facts and arguments, I try also to understand what drives the people behind this. We interpret things because we have a feeling behind this. We here for example feel that this all will lead into a negative thing. Others that is will be better. Contrast views. Unfortunately the other side leads the cultural war and like any ideology it try to protect itself by cut out "disbelievers". Its not that we can debate the different points and opinions to find a solution in the middle or so. This sickens me the most. Those people with their higher moral vibe look down at us and do not move one centimeter from their high horse.
Their arrogance might be their shield but its also the dagger that will bring them to fall. So people like me and many more swell in the underground, just waiting for our moment. Meanwhile we have to play nice and avoid the eyes of them.

(11-12-2016 02:18 AM)Parzival Wrote:  You are right. I don't debate with random people just sometimes it happens that you have a talk with people that you have to deal with more. I try to avoid political topics quite a lot - because I can't change the big game and I know a positive debate is mostly not possible.

I consider myself a reasonable man, I not only go to facts and arguments, I try also to understand what drives the people behind this. We interpret things because we have a feeling behind this. We here for example feel that this all will lead into a negative thing. Others that is will be better. Contrast views. Unfortunately the other side leads the cultural war and like any ideology it try to protect itself by cut out "disbelievers". Its not that we can debate the different points and opinions to find a solution in the middle or so. This sickens me the most. Those people with their higher moral vibe look down at us and do not move one centimeter from their high horse.
Their arrogance might be their shield but its also the dagger that will bring them to fall. So people like me and many more swell in the underground, just waiting for our moment. Meanwhile we have to play nice and avoid the eyes of them.

So basically you are self censoring in order to avoid violence and social repercussions like being socially ostracized. That's fine and actually can lead to a positive outcome as you just have witnessed in the United States. The reason why Hillary supporters were so shocked about the election results is that they never saw it coming. And why is that? Because effectively they had implemented an organized network of social bullies who would jump on anyone who thought differently than what is imposed by their failed ideology. The Left in Europe has a similar fate ahead of them and deep inside they already know it.

Another matter by the way and I hope you can forgive this old 'Haudegen' for being a bit preachy for a moment: It's clear to me that you're a lot younger than me just by the words you choose. I'm seeing a lot of emphasis on feelings and let me assure you that phrases like 'I feel like....' were extremely rare a quarter century ago. Remember that whoever frames the discussion winds up winning the argument and in the end the political war. Both the German and English language have already been diluted and gender bent enough and if the Left has its way words like 'he' or 'she' would completely disappear within a matter of decades.

So don't use their language. Instead of saying 'we feel like this will turn into a negative thing' use 'I believe this is going to ruin our country' or if you want to tone it down perhaps 'I have long argued that this will have a negative impact on our future.

Feelings are for women and they use them quite effectively against us. Men represent the oak in the storm, we may bend a little but we don't break. Your language and your choice of words directly affects how your message is being received. By saying that you 'feel like' something is happening you are communicating weakness. And women as well as Marxists can smell weakness ten miles against the wind.

You may want to pick up a book on Neuro Linguistic Programming. And then when you understand it do the exact opposite of what's recommended in that book when it comes to phrasing your language (not how to press emotional buttons - that part is true gold). That's how Donald Trump made it into the White House.