I am starting to get to the point that not only should those men be deported but that given the leaky nature of the boats in people smuggling they should let the boats sink and deal with the survivors later if they turn up.


Only then will the migrant flow be substantially stemmed in addition to fences.

Given the sky-high birthrate of Africa expect many more immigrants than now.

(10-27-2016 04:01 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  I am starting to get to the point that not only should those men be deported but that given the leaky nature of the boats in people smuggling they should let the boats sink and deal with the survivors later if they turn up.


Only then will the migrant flow be substantially stemmed in addition to fences.

Given the sky-high birthrate of Africa expect many more immigrants than now.

Unfortunately that would likely make things worse, as the progressives in the media would ramp up the virtue signalling and propaganda to insane levels, much worse than now.
The NGOs would get even more money from Soros and co to facilitate and promote and push for safe passage and pick up in the Med for hundreds of thousands more Africans.
What might work would be to stop all benefits immediately across all European countries for anyone who has not paid into the system.
This, if implemented, would at least slow the invasion, but not stop it, as many know there would still be charities and other organisations who would come to the rescue, but I think it would discourage perhaps 30% or so from making the journey if they know the gravy train is no longer running.
Sadly, there's no chance of an action like this being taken, as far as I know even the V4 countries don't have a system like this, so the cucked countries are never going to implement any such survival mechanism for their beleaguered nations.
I should as well of course that none of us want to see people drowning in the Med, the fault for any deaths so far is entirely on the hands of the Globalists.

(10-22-2016 07:42 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  If every dollar spent on trying to get high level immigrants was instead spent subsidising successful middle class families to breed more then you would have homogeneity AND a reasonable population.

In Australia we had something called the baby bonus. 5k from the government as soon as you popped out a kid. There are mixed opinions about the results. It started out as a tax break for people that had kids and in reality it should have stayed that way, only they should have just kept ramping it up until net positive tax payers were popping out kids as fast as mum could manage it.

But of course, "politics". The fucking parasite socialists had to make sure their fucking parasite welfare demographics were getting paid to pump out the fourth generation of welfare parasite babies.

The only solution is patriarchy as stated:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2009/10/20/the-...atriarchy/

Quote:We may witness a similar transformation during this century. In Europe today, for example, how many children different people have, and under what circumstances, correlates strongly with their beliefs on a wide range of political and cultural attitudes. For instance, do you distrust the army? Then, according to polling data assembled by demographers Ronny Lesthaeghe and Johan Surkyn, you are less likely to be married and have kids — or ever to get married and have kids — than those who say they have no objection to the military. Or again, do you find soft drugs, homosexuality, and euthanasia acceptable? Do you seldom, if ever, attend church? For whatever reason, people answering affirmatively to such questions are far more likely to live alone, or in childless, cohabitating unions, than those who answer negatively.

The great difference in fertility rates between secular individualists and religious or cultural conservatives augurs a vast, demographically driven change in modern societies. Consider the demographics of France, for example. Among French women born in the early 1960s, less than a third have three or more children. But this distinct minority of French women (most of them presumably practicing Catholics and Muslims) produced more than 50 percent of all children born to their generation, in large measure because so many of their contemporaries had one child or none at all.

Many childless, middle-aged people may regret the life choices that are leading to the extinction of their family lines, and yet they have no sons or daughters with whom to share their newfound wisdom. The plurality of citizens who have only one child may be able to invest lavishly in that child’s education, but a single child will only replace one parent, not both. Meanwhile, the descendants of parents who have three or more children will be hugely overrepresented in subsequent generations, and so will the values and ideas that led their parents to have large families.

One could argue that history, and particularly Western history, is full of revolts of children against parents. Couldn’t tomorrow’s Europeans, even if they are disproportionately raised in patriarchal, religiously minded households, turn out to be another generation of ’68?

The key difference is that during the post-World War II era, nearly all segments of modern societies married and had children. Some had more than others, but the disparity in family size between the religious and the secular was not so large, and childlessness was rare. Today, by contrast, childlessness is common, and even couples who have children typically have just one. Tomorrow’s children, therefore, unlike members of the postwar baby boom generation, will be for the most part descendants of a comparatively narrow and culturally conservative segment of society. To be sure, some members of the rising generation may reject their parents’ values, as always happens. But when they look around for fellow secularists and counterculturalists with whom to make common cause, they will find that most of their would-be fellow travelers were quite literally never born.

Meanwhile Merkel is calling the kettle black on social networks

Quote: “The algorithms must be made public, so that one can inform oneself as an interested citizen on questions like: what influences my behavior on the internet and that of others?" said Merkel during a media conference in Berlin on Tuesday.

“These algorithms, when they are not transparent, can lead to a distortion of our perception, they narrow our breadth of information.”

Link:
https://www.rt.com/news/364235-merkel-fa...lgorithms/


Isnt her govt the one cracking down on negative voices on social media?

Germany is truly fucked.

Quote:Fury as German primary school ‘forces’ children to chant ‘Allahu Akbar’ in Muslim prayer

PUPILS at a primary school were forced to chant "Allahu Akhbar" and “there is no God but Allah", an appalled father has claimed.

By ZOE EFSTATHIOU
PUBLISHED: 00:07, Thu, Oct 27, 2016

The father of the pupil at the girl's primary school in German ski resort Garmisch-Partenkirchen discovered that his daughter had been forced to learn the Islamic prayer when he discovered a handout she had been given.

He claimed she had been "forced" by teachers to memorise the Islamic chants and forwarded the handout to Austrian news service unsertirol24.



The handout read: "Oh Allah, how perfect you are and praise be to you. Blessed is your name, and exalted is your majesty. There is no God but you."

It had been given to the girl during a lesson in "ethics" at the Bavarian school.



Headteacher Gisela Herl did not confirm the incident when questioned, but said the school would issue a written statement detailing its position in the coming week.

The incident comes just weeks after parents complained to German newspaper Hessian Niedersächsische Allgemeine (HNA) that their children's nursery was refusing to acknowledge "Christmas rituals" to accommodate the "diverse cultures" of other pupils.

The Sara Nussbaum House daycare centre in Kassel refused to put up a Christmas tree, tell Christmas stories or celebrate Christmas in general because it said only a minority of pupils were Christian.



A spokesman for Kassel explained: “There will be no Christmas celebrations, in the strictest sense. Because the majority of children at this kindergarten are not Christian the festival will not be celebrated in the way that it is at other schools.”

Migrants now outnumber native children at many schools in Germany as the country has been inundated with migrants in recent years.

More than one million migrants are estimated to have arrived in Germany during the last year alone.

The Federal Office for Migration and Refugees estimates that another 200,000 people will apply for asylum in 2017.

^^^^ Yup, Germany is over. If you are a German citizen and do not have another passport then I strongly recommend you start thinking about acquiring another nationality and that pronto. Chile and a few other South American countries make it relatively easy.

This thread always make my blood boil. Best to avoid it unless I say something awful about these parasites.

(10-27-2016 04:19 AM)amity Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 04:01 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  I am starting to get to the point that not only should those men be deported but that given the leaky nature of the boats in people smuggling they should let the boats sink and deal with the survivors later if they turn up.


Only then will the migrant flow be substantially stemmed in addition to fences.

Given the sky-high birthrate of Africa expect many more immigrants than now.

Unfortunately that would likely make things worse, as the progressives in the media would ramp up the virtue signalling and propaganda to insane levels, much worse than now.
The NGOs would get even more money from Soros and co to facilitate and promote and push for safe passage and pick up in the Med for hundreds of thousands more Africans.
What might work would be to stop all benefits immediately across all European countries for anyone who has not paid into the system.
This, if implemented, would at least slow the invasion, but not stop it, as many know there would still be charities and other organisations who would come to the rescue, but I think it would discourage perhaps 30% or so from making the journey if they know the gravy train is no longer running.
Sadly, there's no chance of an action like this being taken, as far as I know even the V4 countries don't have a system like this, so the cucked countries are never going to implement any such survival mechanism for their beleaguered nations.
I should as well of course that none of us want to see people drowning in the Med, the fault for any deaths so far is entirely on the hands of the Globalists.

People underestimate NGOs, but they are a real issue.

If a country, that has energetic men, gets rid off the NGOs financed from the elite ( one of the many being Soros) takes a huge part of it's sovereignty back.

NGO's quietly take over the media and the education system and can fuck over an entire country.

I'm watching Frontline - Terror in Europe. Fyi, this channel is a public station, and the program is known for its research. I urge everyone to watch this program. Even liberals with half a brain would appreciate their research.

Many of the facts on this thread was shared in the program. Ignore the haters on this thread, but the reporting was already posted on this thread. It's like this program is validation of the predictions commenters are making.

It's amazing how infested Europe is of terrorists. Europe is the frog in the boiling pot. EU's boarders are too open and being exploited. They have no fucking clue how bad life will become.

France and Belgium are the worst offenders. Mollenbeck district in Brussels has almost majority of Muslims. Many of them will never cooperate with the authorities. Hilary says Muslims will assist the authorities in fighting terrorism is complete madness.

Conflicting cultures in the same country can only result in more violence, bloodshed and civil war. Assimilating cultures in the same country can result in peace, cultural enlightenment and prosperity.

EU must disband to save themselves from a sinking ship. Merkel made the biggest mistake in German history. History will judge her actions.

I feel sorry for my German friends and their families. Their lives will never be safe again.

Found it on YT - watch it while it still hasn't been 'banned for regional copyright issues' here in Europe. FTI - you aren't allowed to watch it on the PBS site already unless you use a U.S. VPN.

(10-27-2016 05:08 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  The only solution is patriarchy as stated:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2009/10/20/the-...atriarchy/

Quote:We may witness a similar transformation during this century. In Europe today, for example, how many children different people have, and under what circumstances, correlates strongly with their beliefs on a wide range of political and cultural attitudes. For instance, do you distrust the army? Then, according to polling data assembled by demographers Ronny Lesthaeghe and Johan Surkyn, you are less likely to be married and have kids — or ever to get married and have kids — than those who say they have no objection to the military. Or again, do you find soft drugs, homosexuality, and euthanasia acceptable? Do you seldom, if ever, attend church? For whatever reason, people answering affirmatively to such questions are far more likely to live alone, or in childless, cohabitating unions, than those who answer negatively.

The great difference in fertility rates between secular individualists and religious or cultural conservatives augurs a vast, demographically driven change in modern societies. Consider the demographics of France, for example. Among French women born in the early 1960s, less than a third have three or more children. But this distinct minority of French women (most of them presumably practicing Catholics and Muslims) produced more than 50 percent of all children born to their generation, in large measure because so many of their contemporaries had one child or none at all.

Many childless, middle-aged people may regret the life choices that are leading to the extinction of their family lines, and yet they have no sons or daughters with whom to share their newfound wisdom. The plurality of citizens who have only one child may be able to invest lavishly in that child’s education, but a single child will only replace one parent, not both. Meanwhile, the descendants of parents who have three or more children will be hugely overrepresented in subsequent generations, and so will the values and ideas that led their parents to have large families.

One could argue that history, and particularly Western history, is full of revolts of children against parents. Couldn’t tomorrow’s Europeans, even if they are disproportionately raised in patriarchal, religiously minded households, turn out to be another generation of ’68?

The key difference is that during the post-World War II era, nearly all segments of modern societies married and had children. Some had more than others, but the disparity in family size between the religious and the secular was not so large, and childlessness was rare. Today, by contrast, childlessness is common, and even couples who have children typically have just one. Tomorrow’s children, therefore, unlike members of the postwar baby boom generation, will be for the most part descendants of a comparatively narrow and culturally conservative segment of society. To be sure, some members of the rising generation may reject their parents’ values, as always happens. But when they look around for fellow secularists and counterculturalists with whom to make common cause, they will find that most of their would-be fellow travelers were quite literally never born.

Whats wrong with this point? Comes a lot into my mind when I walk the streets...

Quote:At times, the Labour council seemed almost complicit in abuse.
In 2013, its former deputy leader, Jahangir Akhtar, was forced to resign after it emerged that he’d brokered a deal with police in which a violent offender who’d impregnated a missing 14-year-old girl would go unpunished provided he handed her over at a petrol station.
The offender, who was later jailed for multiple child sex offences, turned out to be a relation of Akhtar.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z4OSe9ACIG
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

You cannot maket this up - one of the Rotherham gang rapists was a relative of a Labour politician. If you elect Muslims to the council, then this is of course what happens. You get their cousins doing gang rapes, honor killings or joining ISIS. What else would you expect?

And this will continue for years and decades unless Muslims change fundamentally:



But of course they won't. The elite want them keep their values and tell them at each turn how great Islam is and that European traditions are shit, and that Germany should be wiped out because a few years of less positive actions. Why not tell the Turks to commit suicide because of all the war crimes committed?

There is only one way this is going to end.

And in return they will be killed in one last final bloodbath:
2045:



2050:

The End. Islam banned. One world government implemented. You create the problem and then have the solution ready ending up where you wanted to go all along. All we have to do now is wait. See the Muslims grow in the West to 200 mio. (EU & North America). Personally I think that if the demographic numbers hold up, then Russia might become Muslim within 30 years. When Russia turns Muslim, then know that WW3 is soon to come. With the entire Russian arsenal and high-tech weaponry you can have a proper world war started. That way you wipe out not only Islam, but also the patriarchal Russian state. After the war only obedient worker-consumer world citizens will remain.

I read a story today where a carpenter hired 14 refugees, 13 quit because they could not handle to get up in the morning and all the "discipline". Still they sell it as a success story. They say its also a success when you have those godfathers, one german look at one refugee to help him to integrate. Or that a few of them are able to learn decent Germans after billions of Euros are spend on them for housing, job training, language training, one on one training, integration godfathers and so on.

Its a big waste of resources and money. No other country in the world would accept a unchecked mass immigration and sell it as success when you spent billions on them to have a handful integrated. The wave of crime and terror outnumber for sure the benefits, still if only a few good men make it, well its great! Also how they talk Germans need integration courses as well to welcome more those invaders. Such a mind fuck. Or how they say the failed integration of the past is the fault of Germans because they did not want it hard enough.

Its the fucking duty of any immigrant that comes to a new country to behave and stick to the law. When we have the freedom of democracy then its my freedom after have to pay taxes and stick to the law to not get bothered with anything. Its not my duty to help them. It the duty of the ones that come to get used to the habits. And the only ones that fail are Muslims. No German cares what Indians, Japenese, Koreans or Chinese do in Germany. They look different as well, they have different habits too. I never hear people mention them in a negative way. Only Muslims. And of course all the other can make it but not the Muslims and still its the fault of us Germans.
If you are to fucking stupid or ignorant to figure out how it works in a country and fail or get into trouble then its your fault. Your own resbonsibility. Take away all the welfare and tolerance for them and I'm sure most will adapt very fast or go back to their shitholes they call countries.

(10-29-2016 03:45 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  ...2045:



2050:

The End. Islam banned. One world government implemented. You create the problem and then have the solution ready ending up where you wanted to go all along. All we have to do now is wait. See the Muslims grow in the West to 200 mio. (EU & North America). Personally I think that if the demographic numbers hold up, then Russia might become Muslim within 30 years. When Russia turns Muslim, then know that WW3 is soon to come. With the entire Russian arsenal and high-tech weaponry you can have a proper world war started. That way you wipe out not only Islam, but also the patriarchal Russian state. After the war only obedient worker-consumer world citizens will remain.

Zel, I was wondering how you think the finances of the elites will play out in all of this. There's a sense in many circles that a total global financial meltdown is in the wings which would render the elites largely incapable of buying off the fence sitters and controlling the population as easily as they do now.

I'm only asking here rather than in a PM because I think others will want to know. Do you see the financial issue as a ruse or is a monetary collapse anticipated and planned for?

(10-29-2016 05:07 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Zel, I was wondering how you think the finances of the elites will play out in all of this. There's a sense in many circles that a total global financial meltdown is in the wings which would render the elites largely incapable of buying off the fence sitters and controlling the population as easily as they do now.

I'm only asking here rather than in a PM because I think others will want to know. Do you see the financial issue as a ruse or is a monetary collapse anticipated and planned for?

Let us see - they control the global central banks, the IMF, the Worldbank, most of the fractional reserve system of the world, most major banks, most corporations, most real estate, most resources like oil, gold (at 98% - which means that a gold currency is their currency), they control most industrial production, almost all politics, almost all media, all secret services and most armies in the world. They have undermined and infiltrated even most churches like the Vatican led by the cuck-pope and most American churches led by the Rockefeller-created Council of Churches.

They will be fine - financially or otherwise, it will be orgy-parties with top-notch hookers on coke for them as usual.

As for the rest - the global usury debts CANNOT BE REPAID, but that is fine. Currencies get realigned, devalued or scrapped, when they are not useful. What happened after the Communist countries collapsed? There was a period of chaos, more poverty - your money in the bank was worthless. But soon things continued though it took years in some cases. The same will happen when the dollar collapses, but it will probably be not as bad. Poverty up, unemployment up, living standards down, but people will live.

As for them not being able to buy off anyone - that is an illusion. THEY can always print billions more and give it to their cronies. They can ramp up the illegal drug trade (rumored to make 500 bio. $ for the black budget - there was a good reason to ban cocaine and pot in the 1930s and it wasn't a medical decision - pure cocaine or pot is about as addictive as alcohol and probably about as 'healthy').

Their money will not go away. It will only stop when the world population is aware of their scams and forces an interest free money system through while simultanously banning theirs - also a massive group of neomasculine men would have to erect a global secret service that watches out for every scheming, plotting, undermining agenda point out there and shuts it down ASAP publicly and brutally. This will never happen.

So no - I expect a collapse of some sort in the future, but it will come in steps. Maybe in the future you will have currencies devalued and in the next bank collapses Americans and Canadians will experience BAIL-INS - banks will just grab 20-50% of your cash - the legal provisions have already been signed by the traitors.

But there is plenty you can do to remedy that. Diversify cash around the world - shift some to China, if investing in real estate rather buy small apartments in big cities for rent (buy rather 10 small apartments that you rent out than one big house you live in - you can rent as well, but your credit score is used to create wealth instead of just sitting in it).

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Today from Austria - just checked out the site of the major newspaper there:

Quote:The idyll in the residential complex at the racetrack in Lower Austria Baden deceptive. As reported, a 36 year old tenant was arrested after her husband (25) was arrested because of bomb plans a month ago. The woman is now herself under suspicion of terrorism. You should have planned a suicide attack, according Chat protocol.

Her husband was arrested. Soon later she planned to bomb the Austrian ministry as a suicide bomber. A SWAT team took her out as well - well - they just arrested her, so she will be out in 2 years and can plot to kill again.

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Meanwhile for the average Austrian as the country gives billions for the New Europeans:



The story says that similar to Americans - white Austrians rather suffer in silence feeling ashamed about their poverty. 1 in 7 Austrians is poor and the situation grows more dire - while the country spends money on language courses, driving licenses, even courses on how to ride a bike (seriously - they spend money on that - refugees on bikes - of course they got no interest). There is enough money for the low-IQ inbred newcomers, but not enough for the locals who have been shafted by the globalist economy.

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http://www.krone.at/welt/afrika-ist-die-...ory-536565

Merkel upping the cuck-factor:

"Africa is the future. Even if we don't go to Africa, then Africa comes to us."

No shit - she is right:



Essentially they claim that if you give more cash and aid to Africa then they will live better.

Of course it's bullshit - European aid destroys their agriculture and small industries. African countries are pathologically corrupt, but it would not be too difficult to find an ethical strongman and give him Western support. Backed by Western money and military an ethical African high-IQ strongman could whip a country in shape - then you repeat it in other countries. But of course the globalist elite wants the chaos, mayhem and corruption, they want them to come to Europe and fuck up the pesky rebellious Europeans. Later on the Africans will get their Chinese overlords who will rule them with an iron hand, but it won't be their continent then.

^ Thanks for the explanation, Zel. On point as usual.

(10-29-2016 06:05 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Merkel upping the cuck-factor:

"Africa is the future. Even if we don't go to Africa, then Africa comes to us."

Let me get this right. Bitch picks the most backward, uncivilized, violent, and impoverished continent on earth and declares this to be the future of Germany? WTF??!!

Was ist los mit euch Deutschen? Warum sind Ihr nicht auf der Straße um Merkel's Abdankung zu verlangen? Hoffnungslos dieses Volk...

A positive happening in France:

(10-29-2016 01:14 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  A positive happening in France:

I guarantee this will be met with harsher punishments than those doled out to organised rape gangs.

Reconquista.

Generation Identaire are the best.

17 rapefugees attack 2 women in a park. They are groped and can only flee due to help from 2 local men. One German gets beaten up by the enrichers. Only because another man comes by to help can the girls flee. Otherwise they would have likely been gang-raped.

3 of the men were already known at the police - having been arrested by the cops and released multiple times.

http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/...28471.html



https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article1...haben.html

By the way - while the cops caught the perps, they released them again. So I guess so long as there is no deadly group rape, then the rapefugees can assault and rape at pleasure.

Seriously - if I were living in the West it would be only a matter of time before I hurt one of them bad sooner or later. Happily most of my family lives far away from diversity except one - and she is a refugee-lover propaganda-worker, so I guess it would be educational for her.

That's Freiburg by the way - an idyllic little town, but no more - we need the new violent low-IQ inbred Europeans to 'pay taxes':

(10-29-2016 01:57 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Reconquista.

Generation Identaire are the best.

The problem is that they don't know who the real enemy is. Roosh said something of the like that the migrants are not the ones who are doing it all. They do what they do, because that is where they are currently in their development. It is the ruling elite in the West who are the reason for all the crap and not the rapefugees - the migrants are just their rabid bulldogs.

So in reality any fight would have to be directed towards them and not the incoming refugees. You have to fight a disease by dealing with the underlying condition and the virus and not by wiping off the sweat and crap off the body. That does not solve much.

When the rabid dogs (violent immigrants, radical Islam) have fulfilled their job, then the elite will simply gun them down. They just don't know it and stupidly assume that Europe and the US will be a caliphate within 50-150 years.

- Obama allowed Al'Qaeda and ISIS to develop freely
- Europe is allowing Islamic terrorism to flourish, spew hate and import third world people who are vulnerable to this way of thinking and indoctrination

The consequences of the first point is laid bare for all to see. In order to dislodge these two entities and their allies we now need to invoke large military offensives and still, tens of thousands of civilians are just moments away from death.

It didn't have to be like this but it is.

Now we see millions of them not just on Europe's' doorstep but inside the fortifications with help from their traitorous allies in charities, limousine liberals, politicians and NGO's. Hell you can include the UN and IMF in this I'm sure.

So what would the cost be to dislodge this problem?

(10-29-2016 03:54 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So what would the cost be to dislodge this problem?

Same as always - blood, sweat, and sacrifice. A lot of people are going to die or at least suffer in order to rectify the failings of the baby boomers.