(10-21-2016 06:55 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 06:08 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I recently read about how Japan is facing demographic collapse: They are NOT allowing a huge amount of immigrants, certainly not ones from rude, low-trust cultures.

Of course the globalists are pining to destroy Japan as well. Whenever I hear crap like this my eyes glaze over. This is the same hare-brained idiotic hyperbole that has led to Germans getting rid of their borders and inviting millions of migrants.

First up Japan has a population density of 336 people per square kilometer. Compare that with the United States which in 2014, last time it was counted, had a population density per square km of ~35. No, I didn't leave out a zero there, it's 35.

Useful figures, thanks. Maybe it's possible to discuss politics without fistfights?

I think you make a good point that Japan's density is very high-- but what about the threat of half the population being over 65?

Couldn't that use some buffering ? Do you think an economy will work with 50% 65+? It's not a rhetorical question, I don't know. Maybe 40% is OK, maybe 35%.

But I think that aspect should be addressed, rather than saying it doesn't matter at all when at least one Japanese economics professor is quoted as saying it concerns him.

I am in favor of negative population growth-- it meshes with very strict immigration policies.

I agree normalizing the "immigration overall bad" idea is a difficult but necessary sell in a similar way to
"negative population growth". People have been brainwashed to think it is regressive.

Fantasies about removing women's vote, bringing back fault based divorce, seem more far-fetched to me.

(10-21-2016 02:32 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The Neo-German enclave would have to be erected in China, Mongolia or in rural Japan. A couple million Red Pill Germans could make something out of it and have a positive impact.

Makes you wonder why not more 2nd and 3rd world countries with more land and resources than people and know-how offer a deal like that.

I mean there's potentially hundreds of thousands, if not millions of North Europeans, K-selected, highly educated, hard working and law abiding people, who would be willing to emigrate to a less insane state and make it great again (or in the first place).

The only effort in this regard I've heard of is Bulgaria and Georgia trying to attract White South Africans for the mentioned attributes, agricultural know-how and proven success in farming and land development. In exchange they provide land, tax exemptions, general immigration support and citizenship.

(10-22-2016 07:44 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 06:55 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 06:08 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I recently read about how Japan is facing demographic collapse: They are NOT allowing a huge amount of immigrants, certainly not ones from rude, low-trust cultures.

Of course the globalists are pining to destroy Japan as well. Whenever I hear crap like this my eyes glaze over. This is the same hare-brained idiotic hyperbole that has led to Germans getting rid of their borders and inviting millions of migrants.

First up Japan has a population density of 336 people per square kilometer. Compare that with the United States which in 2014, last time it was counted, had a population density per square km of ~35. No, I didn't leave out a zero there, it's 35.

Useful figures, thanks. Maybe it's possible to discuss politics without fistfights?

Oh come on now. Obviously I'm not going around punching people. I was saying that it makes me 'want to' punch people - mainly due to the onslaught of disinformation we are being inundated with every single day.

I should however point out that I am of the opinion that there comes a time when constructive dialog is futile and suppression of aberrant ideas is preferable. We may disagree on that end but let me highlight the fact that it is our limp-wristed response to outrageous liberalism that has led us down this rabbit hole in the first place. Anyway, moving on....

(10-22-2016 07:44 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I think you make a good point that Japan's density is very high-- but what about the threat of half the population being over 65?

Couldn't that use some buffering ? Do you think an economy will work with 50% 65+? It's not a rhetorical question, I don't know. Maybe 40% is OK, maybe 35%.

But I think that aspect should be addressed, rather than saying it doesn't matter at all when at least one Japanese economics professor is quoted as saying it concerns him.

Yes, but may of them live well into their 80s or 90s. And the other half will gradually resume the following activity once massive amounts of real estate becomes cheaply available:



I'm sure most of you have been to Tokyo - just pull up some real estate listings. A 50m2 place will easily cost you USD$2k. Try to find an apartment for a family of four or more unless you're making big coin. And we're not even talking guarantor, agency fees, deposit, first three months of rent, etc. Cheaper if you want to live over an hour away and spend three hours a day commuting between your job and your home.

The problem with humans is that they usually think in linear terms. They look back and expect what has happened in the recent past - a good example would be investor behavior. After a big sell off they expect more selling. After a big run up higher they expect continuation and everyone wants in.

Even IF there were only 50 Million Japanese 20 years from now - so what is the big deal? Japan is already filled to the brink with retirees. Imagine all that money that Japan is paying to take care of them. Once that can be deployed into childcare, education, family bonuses, etc. then you'll quickly see Japanese return to doing their genetic duty.

Same in Europe by the way, which is the theme of this thread after all. Finding an affordable apartment in Munich or Berlin can be as hard if not harder than in Tokyo. People are competing for piece of shit places with ancient heating systems in crappy neighborhoods. Parking your car is almost impossible - it was already a pain over 25 years ago when I lived there. It's gotten a LOT worse since then...

(10-22-2016 08:10 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  Makes you wonder why not more 2nd and 3rd world countries with more land and resources than people and know-how offer a deal like that.

I mean there's potentially hundreds of thousands, if not millions of North Europeans, K-selected, highly educated, hard working and law abiding people, who would be willing to emigrate to a less insane state and make it great again (or in the first place).

I really think there are great opportunities in this area. Unfortunately I am unsure as to WHERE they would be a) welcome and b) integration would be possible for them.

(10-22-2016 08:10 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  The only effort in this regard I've heard of is Bulgaria and Georgia trying to attract White South Africans for the mentioned attributes, agricultural know-how and proven success in developing land. In exchange they provide land, tax exemptions and general immigration support.

That's actually extremely smart of both countries. In particular white South Africans are regularly denied permanent visas in Northern Europe while they allow entry for every Syrian or Magreb asshole that crosses the border.

(10-22-2016 07:44 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  ...
Couldn't that use some buffering ? Do you think an economy will work with 50% 65+? It's not a rhetorical question, I don't know. Maybe 40% is OK, maybe 35%.
...

So just how are you suggesting the importing uneducated, diseased, low-IQ, r-select genetic stragglers (not to put too fine a point on it) is going to help? You're making a statement that Japan ought to import people. It falls to you to explain how doing so in this instance would help their economy rather than saddle them with a bunch of primitives incapable of contributing meaningfully to the country while simultaneously creating a massive terrorist threat and a huge cultural burden.

The numbers indicate that some sort of trickle-in entrance of genuine doctors and engineers (such as they even exist in those ass backward nations) would be a statistical irrelevance. So seriously. Let's assume that the economy will collapse on the current course and that there is literally no other option but to save it (untrue, but let's proceed with that for the sake of argument).

Please. Lay out this immigration plan with an explanation of how it will actually benefit, in this instance, the people of Japan.

(10-21-2016 02:32 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  I am sorry to say, but the US is destined to financially fall soon - not cannibalism collapse, but just a constant decrease in importance similar to the UK in the 19th century (which was caused by mounting usury there as well).

The Neo-German enclave would have to be erected in China, Mongolia or in rural Japan. A couple million Red Pill Germans could make something out of it and have a positive impact.

But that is just fantasy talk. Whites will have to leave - and the White exodus will continue.

I'm not sure where you're going with this.

Worst case scenario (or perhaps best) the US falls and breaks into several smaller countries. At that point you'd still be much better off in one of those smaller states than trying to carve out a swath of China or Japan.

North America was 100% non-white before European colonialists arrived. That seems to have worked out okay for white people.

And the US is massive. There's plenty of barely inhabited land around. And it's pretty insulated from other world/nuclear powers.

As redpillage alluded to, people think too linearly in terms of the future as it relates to the past.

We're at the point now where automation is basically being avoided because it would put too many people out of jobs. The strongest economy and military are going to be less and less about population size and more and more about technology.

This is why the elites are so hell bent on importing idiots and then catering to the lowest common denominator to weaken countries that would otherwise continue to break away from the pack technologically.

Speaking of Japan, they're going to be in perfect position to ride this wave. Naturally losing 25% of their population would look like an absolute genius move in 20 years.

(10-22-2016 07:44 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  Couldn't that use some buffering ? Do you think an economy will work with 50% 65+? It's not a rhetorical question, I don't know. Maybe 40% is OK, maybe 35%.

In Germany, out of the 82 million people just about 43 % work.
In the USA about 149 million people did work in 2015, that's about 46 %.
Japan has a high number with 49%. I was in Japan and in a small store often a few employees work. Japan runs on credits from the government so its like a big job program.

Anyway, what do we see? Most people in modern industrialized societies don't work. Those that have no job are the ones with zero skills. Then look how the productivity did rise since industrialisation. Then compare the slow down. Switzerland is a good example. They did not adjust to the automatic industrialisation. They keep a strong work force. Now they have to import many Germans and other people that work in the higher levels.

The digital revolution can make 10 to 50 % of jobs useless in the next decade. Today you have start ups and jobs that people did not know even exist 10 years ago. As said here before, thinking linear is a human pattern. But life is not linear. Its exponential. This is something our brain can't keep up with. So a downsize of population will not lead to a breakdown of people. Yes of the system but not of the people. Humans will find other ways of societies. Its the old elites that fear in their greed to lose everything. Mostly their power of control. Times are changing.

(10-22-2016 02:36 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 07:44 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  Couldn't that use some buffering ? Do you think an economy will work with 50% 65+? It's not a rhetorical question, I don't know. Maybe 40% is OK, maybe 35%.

In Germany, out of the 82 million people just about 43 % work.
In the USA about 149 million people did work in 2015, that's about 46 %.
Japan has a high number with 49%. I was in Japan and in a small store often a few employees work. Japan runs on credits from the government so its like a big job program.

Anyway, what do we see? Most people in modern industrialized societies don't work. Those that have no job are the ones with zero skills. Then look how the productivity did rise since industrialisation. Then compare the slow down. Switzerland is a good example. They did not adjust to the automatic industrialisation. They keep a strong work force. Now they have to import many Germans and other people that work in the higher levels.

The digital revolution can make 10 to 50 % of jobs useless in the next decade. Today you have start ups and jobs that people did not know even exist 10 years ago. As said here before, thinking linear is a human pattern. But life is not linear. Its exponential. This is something our brain can't keep up with. So a downsize of population will not lead to a breakdown of people. Yes of the system but not of the people. Humans will find other ways of societies. Its the old elites that fear in their greed to lose everything. Mostly their power of control. Times are changing.

Correct - I have read reports of how corporations are discussing how to let go even the ones they have now slowly, so it does not cause massive poverty and riots. Social security is here to stay.

Would there be alternatives? Sure:
1) interest free money system
2) 20 hour workweek for everyone on the same pay and 2 months yearly vacation - our output productivity is that high. Also minimum wage of those 20 hours/week should be enough to feed a man and have all his bills paid.
Women should be discouraged to work. Working several jobs should be made almost unnecessary.

Then you could have full employment while most women would choose not to work.

And this is not socialism - just common sense based on our current technological level. If you want to keep busy, then find something else to do with the other 20 hours - something that you love and is not a career, but something worthwhile. I am sure that most men would find something to do.

______________

Heh - the 10yo rapist case is getting ever more funny by the day:

^^^
Since some time I am not sure if I somehow transitioned a wormhole to the bizarre universe of grotesque comedy.
Europe definitely seems hell bent on a collective death wish of the most comically tragic kind

(10-22-2016 03:33 PM)El_Gostro Wrote:  ^^^
Since some time I am not sure if I somehow transitioned a wormhole to the bizarre universe of grotesque comedy.
Europe definitely seems hell bent on a collective death wish of the most comically tragic kind

Let me help me out with that. Just play this every morning after you wake up:





Now it'll make total sense to you.

(10-22-2016 11:16 AM)Enigma Wrote:  Worst case scenario (or perhaps best) the US falls and breaks into several smaller countries. At that point you'd still be much better off in one of those smaller states than trying to carve out a swath of China or Japan.

North America was 100% non-white before European colonialists arrived. That seems to have worked out okay for white people.

And the US is massive. There's plenty of barely inhabited land around. And it's pretty insulated from other world/nuclear powers.

My thinking exactly. Plus the entire point of relocation would be to retain at least some of the German cultural heritage. Having spent extensive time of my life in both countries I am convinced that there is very high compatibility between the [still] prevalent U.S. way of life and the cultural values Germans would bring along. For one they are excellent workers and all that manufacturing know-how would be a huge bonus if Trump would be able to return some of that back to the United States.

If Trump becomes president I actually may consider lobbying for a special migration program that permits native Germans, Austrians, and perhaps French to fast track through the DHS procedure. I know a few people who have been through that and it's not only expensive, but it's also extremely time intensive. Another aspect of that would be the recognition of German qualifications and education in the U.S., although from personal experience I know that this is not a big deal in the States. It's in particular Germany that makes it almost impossible for anyone qualified abroad to enter the German workforce. However there are probably exceptions - e.g. anyone in the medical field would surely have to re-license in the United States.

In summary, this would be an extremely positive and rewarding initiative for the United States. And unlike our rapefugees those German immigrants would be happy to pay for their own settlement, they immediately represent a net asset as opposed to a net cost to society.

Of course any of this would be predicated on a Trump victory. If Hillary takes office the U.S. is FUBAR.

A few things.

First of all, I'm really loving the dynamic that is going on here between some very disparate characters.

We have Parzival giving notes from the ground. I imagine he looks up from his half-perched specs now and again, then goes back to business. So thanks for that.

We have FoolsGold risking life and limb and being put in prison for hate speech, just for speaking his mind in the most Totalitarian country on planet earth. I'm with ya bro. Big hugs to you.

We have Zelcorpion speaking his mind and leading the pack with his high knowledge of the high games being played, and been played for the last 1000 years (and another 1000 years to come). Kudos to him.

We have Lenny the new boy, keeping it real, giving real world advice, making sure no one ventures too far into la la land. And that is worth its weight in gold for sure.

We have redpillage, also keeping it very real. Speaking harsh truths. He got battered a bit for his 'negativity' - but it turns out he took the bitterest pill of all. He is not defeated, just regrouping, and like any good General, suggest we all do the same less we get trounced and routed out.

We have Mr. Lemon Ice Cream, giving a different perspective and filling in fun facts and figures. Priceless, I say.

This is pretty much my A-Team for this thread!

Sorry if I missed anyone out.

Oh and we have IKE adding a bit of spice to the soup. Nothing wrong with a really different viewpoint. I can relate to IKE a lot. Ok, he's a bit 'liberal', but he hasn't been mugged yet, then he'll come around a bit. I say this respectfully of course, as I am but a whippersnapper myself.

:-)

So there is that.

As for the other stuff...

Well, the whole propaganda game is just that - psyops. That is a very good quote and it resonates because it is true. I worked it out for myself a couple of decades ago when Tony Blair (labour) planted Futuristic (see the Russian Art movement -not the Italian one - Futurism) posters all over London. WE ARE WATCHING YOU! WE HAVE CAMERAS TRAINED ON YOU - ALL GOING BACK TO A CENTRAL DATABASE AND CHECKED IN REAL TIME. Fuck me, I was only trying to get back to Tottenham on the N17 (ok, a bit off my head).

Too much to go into. But yes, it is all about demoralisation and the repeating of the grand lie. And how that diminishes every man/woman that repeats it. It's pretty basic propaganda actually and nothing 'edgy' or 'clever'. Demoralisation techniques 101. But well spotted none the less.

Oh, and the last thing was, about how there have been some new laws brought in in the UK in the last few days. I can now be put in prison for this post. I imagine some of our British chums have heard about this, especially in the tech sector, or maybe not. Anyway, it's changing fast.

You will probably find it going a bit quiet from us over here in the UK. Feel free to take the piss for having our guns taken off us, and for being pussies for not fighting back. But when you have people knocking on your door to 'have a word with you' about the wrong rubbish in the wrong bin (and the fact that they can then see your entire fucking browsing history via RIPA), maybe you can begin to understand how thousands perished in concentration camps.

I can't say much more. Fuck it, I've already said more than 90 percent of other brainwashed brits. I don't want to be a martyr. But what the hell, eh? Just know that I can legally be put in prison for this post and all my hate speech.

It is too much to go into. Even the tech websites like the Register (as left leaning as they are) are beaten now, and they have a better idea of what is going on.

Hey ho. I may be gone for some time.

All the best.

^^^ Rigsby - that was truly depressing and uplifting at the same time. Are you planning to remain in the U.K. for much longer? Would you consider the U.S. if Trump somehow makes it?

redpillage Wrote:Now it'll make total sense to you

No joke: im converting it to mp3 and putting it as my wake up alarm

(10-22-2016 10:21 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 07:44 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  ...
Couldn't that use some buffering ? Do you think an economy will work with 50% 65+? It's not a rhetorical question, I don't know. Maybe 40% is OK, maybe 35%.
...

So just how are you suggesting the importing uneducated, diseased, low-IQ, r-select genetic stragglers (not to put too fine a point on it) is going to help?

Please. Lay out this immigration plan with an explanation of how it will actually benefit, in this instance, the people of Japan.

I'm absolutely against chaotic, naive admission of these fake refugees.

As far as I know all the first world countries have the low fertility rate situation, so I'm not thinking of Japan as a failure case, as I pointed out they've had zero Islamterror.

To the contrary I'm viewing them as the only ones doing the closest thing to a rational response-- strictly limiting immigration to the point of some population decline.

But IMO you've got to have an alternative to "no immigration ever" to sell , not just to simply pointing out how negative the current crop is. Or you just get the knee-jerk "racist" response.

If you advocate "elite immigration" as the best plan that in effect reduces immigration by ninety something % you could win over maybe 95% of the remaining indigenous population instead of 55% ( wild guesses of course) .

As to benefit, the idea is "steal their best people" . If you personally interviewed 1000 people from Afghanistan, there would probably be at least, I don't know, 3-5 outstanding individuals who would benefit anyplace they go.

. As a starting point to codify it, roughly speaking,
-- master's degree level ( or very highly skilled tradesmen) and above, -- with successful social adaptation proven through post education work experience, and
-- thoroughly vetted for philosophical compatibility.
-- New legal measures mandating close surveillance and supervision for non-citizen immigrants that full citizens would not tolerate ( Japan does this with it's tiny amount of Muslims, there's only something like 1000 in the whole country, closely monitored.)
-- Use of crime statutes to recategorize selected religious sub-sects as criminal organizations based on preaching of violence and intolerance.

In the USA RICO statutes could be used. This is critical in countries where religious freedom is respected. Overall, separation of church and state has worked well at creating wealth and allowing co-existence of reasonable religions ( If you're an anti-semite I don't think you know much about history of science research and we can't really find common ground) . Apparently, some parts of Islam are not religions but criminal conspiracies. Just monitor the speeches in the mosques and shut the negative ones down. It's important to not allow "normalization" of radical thought and speech. I believe China doesn't allow anyone under 18 to go into Mosques, this is how a totilitarian government is stunting recruitment.

A distinction between true and compatible religions and those advocating violence which in my opinion could be legally reclassified as "gangs imitating religious groups" (GIRGs lol)

The largely anti-social posers flooding into Europe now are pretty obviously a really bad idea.

But I also work in health care, have a graduate degree, and know from personal experience that there are foreign nurses and doctors who are intellectually superior to the average white American, and the country benefits hugely. ( I am a published researcher in intelligence testing. Not a leader in the field, but I know what I am talking about.)

I think there's a balance-- it might be allowing only the top 0.1-1.0% of MENA immigrants in. That seems an easier sold alternative to naively letting in tons of males whose primary selection factor is aggressiveness and willingness to lie to immigration officials.

For instance, if you screen on very high education, that would in general eliminate those posing as children, because all the academic records would require a lot of time spent.

I also agree the only way to preclude destruction of the European cultures is to get a lot of the low productivity immigrants OUT. Like some other posters I think it's probably politically impossible, Europeans are too tame now as people with a relatively free meal ticket will violently resist being sent back to Shitholistan.

And talking of the Migrant Invasion of Europe.

And talking of the N17.

The N17 was a bus that used to (maybe still does) go home to Tottenham/Hackney. The blackest areas of London now, but back in the day, they used to be Irish.

"NO IRISH, NO BLACKS, NO DOGS".

So read the signs in the pubs of North London.

What the hell, someone wrote a song about it:





There was conflict, but there was balance. It was healthy.

But it's all been pushed over the edge now. What with news in the British papers that the security services are employing thousands of new people to monitor 'internet activity' and anything perceived to be 'hate speech' will be punishable by prison, sometimes in secret courts - you can now be disappeared here. And the best part is, no one even needs to see it. That's right, it might not be seen by anyone, but if the spy people find it, you can go to prison. Locked up.

No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs.

Was that 'hate speech'? I think it was. But we worked it out. I know of many Irish married to Blacks, as much as the hate ran deep sometimes (not always).

Those days are gone now.

Tottenham and Edmonton are now Little Afghanistan (remember I risk jail for saying this as my internet is monitored in real time, but the police will not investigate burglary). And they don't give a fuck about you. Or me.

The Saw Doctors are Irish, they were talking about their time here in London. They fucked off back to Galway pretty quickly though, realising the streets were not paved with gold.

--------------------------
And behind all these muddled up problems
Of living on a foreign soil
I can still see the twists and turns on the road
From the square to the town of the tribes
-----------------------------------

^

Fuck the 'best immigration' selection.

The only groups I would let in:

1) Single young fertile women - Muslim girls if they become ex-Muslim - no brothers, cousins or uncles coming with them - have to marry a local in order to get to stay.
2) Super-high-IQ geniuses or otherwise male top-performers that clearly show a love and deep desire to assimilate in the host country and want nothing else but to become a German/Irish etc. They will have years where they have to prove their worth to their new country - any transgression or lack of performance will mean instant deportation. Also they have to fully embrace the country's language, values, habits and lifestyle not only accepting it, but loving it fully.

Other than that - we'll call if we need more. But my guess is that there would be enough women coming in to Europe and the US - hardly any men would qualify. And finally the West would become deserving pussy-paradises where the cocks are the minority. Feminism would be a luxury that Western girls could no longer afford. And that is what the West should do - you are the most prosperous and successful countries in the world - you make the rules.

Immigration would be really simple if we all decided. Western countries could even pay for air fare and relocation of those girls. Let us first import 20 mio. young single hot girls into the US & Europe and see if we need more. We'll call if we need more violent low-IQ rapists who want to live off welfare. Let us first deal with the wave of young Latinas, Thai, Ukrainian and Belarus girls - then we will see.

RVF immigration consultant at casting:

(10-22-2016 04:35 PM)redpillage Wrote:  ^^^ Rigsby - that was truly depressing and uplifting at the same time. Are you planning to remain in the U.K. for much longer? Would you consider the U.S. if Trump somehow makes it?

I would give my left arm to move to the States.

Say what you like about it - the greatest fucking country in the world.

I would move to America in a heartbeat.

As long as Trump gets in of course.

(10-22-2016 05:12 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Let us first import 20 mio. young single hot girls into the US & Europe and see if we need more. We'll call if we need more violent low-IQ rapists who want to live off welfare. Let us first deal with the wave of young Latinas, Thai, Ukrainian and Belarus girls - then we will see.

(10-22-2016 05:12 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  ^

Fuck the 'best immigration' selection.

.. Then why do you proceed to outline a pretty good program for it? lolzolz:

I added a "Realism Rating" to each of your ideas:

(10-22-2016 05:12 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The only groups I would let in:

REALISM RATING 2/10-- WATCH LOCAL WHALES EXPLODE ON HEARING THIS
1) Single young fertile women - Muslim girls if they become ex-Muslim - no brothers, cousins or uncles coming with them - have to marry a local in order to get to stay.

REALISM RATING 9/10-- US SMART GUYS LOVE HAVING GENIUSES AROUND- THIS ALREADY HAPPENS TO SOME EXTENT
2) Super-high-IQ geniuses or otherwise male top-performers that clearly show a love and deep desire to assimilate in the host country and want nothing else but to become a German/Irish etc. They will have years where they have to prove their worth to their new country - any transgression or lack of performance will mean instant deportation. Also they have to fully embrace the country's language, values, habits and lifestyle not only accepting it, but loving it fully.

(10-22-2016 05:12 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  The Saw Doctors are Irish, they were talking about their time here in London. They fucked off back to Galway pretty quickly though, realising the streets were not paved with gold.

Is that the music group?

(10-22-2016 05:22 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 05:12 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  ^

Fuck the 'best immigration' selection.

.. Then why do you proceed to outline a pretty good program for it? lolzolz:

I added a "Realism Rating" to each of your ideas:

(10-22-2016 05:12 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The only groups I would let in:

REALISM RATING 2/10-- WATCH LOCAL WHALES EXPLODE ON HEARING THIS
1) Single young fertile women - Muslim girls if they become ex-Muslim - no brothers, cousins or uncles coming with them - have to marry a local in order to get to stay.

REALISM RATING 9/10-- US SMART GUYS LOVE HAVING GENIUSES AROUND- THIS ALREADY HAPPENS TO SOME EXTENT
2) Super-high-IQ geniuses or otherwise male top-performers that clearly show a love and deep desire to assimilate in the host country and want nothing else but to become a German/Irish etc. They will have years where they have to prove their worth to their new country - any transgression or lack of performance will mean instant deportation. Also they have to fully embrace the country's language, values, habits and lifestyle not only accepting it, but loving it fully.

the realism rating of both is 0/0.

Even the second point of you giving it a 9/10 is pure bullshit. Corporations use the system to get just cheaper workers and the universities are cultural marxist diversity pushers who prefer to take a Chinese guy with rudimentary English skills but some fake high-scores that he got in China than to give a deserving local a chance. They have enforced diversity quotas that are off-the-charts-crazy.

I am saying what should be done - it's funny, but also logical. In times past strong civilizations pillaged and robbed the women, in our times we ask them for a bikini pic, a standardized IQ test and a short introduction video - then we send them a charter flight and prepare their new homes. I prefer to pay for 100 Ukrainian girls than for one Muslim psycho who comes from a rubber boat complaining about Europeans before setting foot on German soil.

Most proposals could work, but politics stands in the way. Why? Because governments depend on votes. Who votes for lefty bullshit? Women.

You can't enact any of these ideas because women have the vote. They are easy to manipulate because they follow the herd, don't want to buck the trend and can virtue signal to their hearts' content with social media. While women have the vote we are fucked.

I hope I get picked up by the same paddy wagon as Rigsby, at least we could have a laugh.

And I learned about population curves, rising and falling as a child. Why do we buy the elite's bullshit about end-of-the-world bullshit if the population falls? We're talking stuff we learn at age 11 for God's sake.

If every dollar spent on trying to get high level immigrants was instead spent subsidising successful middle class families to breed more then you would have homogeneity AND a reasonable population.

In Australia we had something called the baby bonus. 5k from the government as soon as you popped out a kid. There are mixed opinions about the results. It started out as a tax break for people that had kids and in reality it should have stayed that way, only they should have just kept ramping it up until net positive tax payers were popping out kids as fast as mum could manage it.

But of course, "politics". The fucking parasite socialists had to make sure their fucking parasite welfare demographics were getting paid to pump out the fourth generation of welfare parasite babies.

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