Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options
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coverdoc 路 2016-10-13 12:40:00 路 #3326
Dropping jewels just in time @Travesty @WIA.
I feel like my game is intermediate, has been for a while. A lot better than most guys, but like all men, I want more. What do you heavy hitting vets define as advanced game compared to intermediate game. As my day game skills return from slumber and my rusted over approach anxiety dwindles down i'm seeing it easier now to capitalize on finally advancing my game.
-CD
I feel like my game is intermediate, has been for a while. A lot better than most guys, but like all men, I want more. What do you heavy hitting vets define as advanced game compared to intermediate game. As my day game skills return from slumber and my rusted over approach anxiety dwindles down i'm seeing it easier now to capitalize on finally advancing my game.
-CD
kirdiesel 路 2016-10-13 13:10:00 路 #3327
Anyone getting in the gym big time for winter?
I just signed up for a 1 year membership today.. I think look fine (5,10 180lbs not any real noticeable fat) but want to be really up there in terms of looks.. six pack/hardbody... fresh sleeve tattoo (been wanting one for years)
To be honest attraction has always been my achilles heel (everyone has one) and it seems if I have attraction from the start its fairly easy for me to pull through the rest. Just like that hot 19 year old I mentioned pulled from the club a few weeks ago. She was attracted to me (staring me from across the way) without me even saying a word... All i had to do was game a bit, pass the shit tests, get through some LMR and it was a done deal. All those kinds of things I can handle well since I been doing this so well.
I really want to have more of those nights so ive decided to take a break and re-invent myself.
I just signed up for a 1 year membership today.. I think look fine (5,10 180lbs not any real noticeable fat) but want to be really up there in terms of looks.. six pack/hardbody... fresh sleeve tattoo (been wanting one for years)
To be honest attraction has always been my achilles heel (everyone has one) and it seems if I have attraction from the start its fairly easy for me to pull through the rest. Just like that hot 19 year old I mentioned pulled from the club a few weeks ago. She was attracted to me (staring me from across the way) without me even saying a word... All i had to do was game a bit, pass the shit tests, get through some LMR and it was a done deal. All those kinds of things I can handle well since I been doing this so well.
I really want to have more of those nights so ive decided to take a break and re-invent myself.
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-10-13 14:42:00 路 #3328
(10-13-2016 12:40 PM)coverdoc Wrote: Dropping jewels just in time @Travesty @WIA.
I feel like my game is intermediate, has been for a while. A lot better than most guys, but like all men, I want more. What do you heavy hitting vets define as advanced game compared to intermediate game. As my day game skills return from slumber and my rusted over approach anxiety dwindles down i'm seeing it easier now to capitalize on finally advancing my game.
-CD
Zero to hero?
The intermediate player has his personal process down from meet to lay. He has mastered the basics.
In the intermediate stage, he wants to broaden his skill set.
Night game, day game, online, social circle, hired guns, travel game, secret society
Hotter chicks, objective 10's and subjective 10's.
Roster management, LTRs that work for him
Super fast pulls, long game, threesomes planned and unplanned,
So in my mind, before you get to the final boss, *laughing*,
There are two things I have in mind
Mastery of your particular social world aka presidential game. Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama are all said to have this one on one magnetism that makes whoever they're talking to feel like the only person in the room. Men and women alike. Instead of going after people and charming them, you shine and people turn in your direction.
The second part is what I would call world game. Same principal, but with girls only, but you make chicks feel like that despite not knowing the language or culture.
With these last two, you can see shades of them throughout your own game at different times.
Lemme know if you want more.
WIA
burncushlikewood 路 2016-10-14 17:01:00 路 #3329
Anyone here fucks with Richard La Ruina? He has some stealth game attraction stuff all about night club game, talks about non verbal cues across the room and how to kino and stuff. i always found his stuff useful especially his info on dance floor game which actually helped me out in my own world.
Also to touch on the advanced vs intermediate gamething i feel like a lot of guys use direct game on the streets or in the club and pedestalize girls and it flies, what i wanna see is a guy go in on a chick have her acting cold to him and then the guy turning the set around and doing a pull. that is the true test of game cause often times these girls arent into those beta over complimenting types
Also to touch on the advanced vs intermediate gamething i feel like a lot of guys use direct game on the streets or in the club and pedestalize girls and it flies, what i wanna see is a guy go in on a chick have her acting cold to him and then the guy turning the set around and doing a pull. that is the true test of game cause often times these girls arent into those beta over complimenting types
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-10-15 00:45:00 路 #3330
(10-14-2016 05:01 PM)burncushlikewood Wrote: Anyone here fucks with Richard La Ruina? He has some stealth game attraction stuff all about night club game, talks about non verbal cues across the room and how to kino and stuff. i always found his stuff useful especially his info on dance floor game which actually helped me out in my own world.
Been seeing that name, but never found any of his youtubes to grab my interest long enough to keep listening.
(10-14-2016 05:01 PM)burncushlikewood Wrote: Also to touch on the advanced vs intermediate gamething i feel like a lot of guys use direct game on the streets or in the club and pedestalize girls and it flies, what i wanna see is a guy go in on a chick have her acting cold to him and then the guy turning the set around and doing a pull. that is the true test of game cause often times these girls arent into those beta over complimenting types
That to me is game, it's not advanced game.
Advanced game is doing that better, faster, stronger, deeper, with less effort. With chicks making the effort to connect when you're doing things on a different level.
Remember that cool kid in grade school - why the fuck was he cool? Why did everyone want to be his friend? How can a 6 year old be cool? When you see cool 25 year olds, you can attach all sorts of other tangible shit. Oh he's rich, he's handsome, he's this, he's that. None of those explanations work on the elementary school level though.
If a player can't turn a set around ever, he has no game.
He doesn't have the tools it takes to change a group's emotions.
A player, in my mind at least, has the skill set to turn lemons into lemonade.
If you can cheer up a toddler, that's essentially what you're doing with a group of bitchy girls. The toddler one is easy, the bitchy girls requires time, technique and experience.
That information is out there, and has been out there. Guys coming to the game don't think that "Who Lies More" is for bitches. They think it's for chicks just standing around drinking Cosmo's. All that stuff is designed for the bitchiest chick in the club. (And sometimes the biggest bitch is hot too, lol)
All the old shit about game is about changing hearts then minds.
This walk up on a broad, see if she's with it, and leave if she's not. - That shit ain't game. In our community especially, you can crush a lot with this "technique", but it ain't technique. (I'm not a player I just crush a lot) The skill in the ping and bang is handling the logistics and some of the personalities if the chick is in a group.
A player doesn't need to really understand female behavior or psychology to do that.
The only difference between the "ping and bang" and spam approaching, is that the guys who "target" chicks don't talk to nearly enough. Both are fairly uncalibrated, low tech, brute force options. If that's all a player is doing, he'd better look GREAT. And that's why when I post black club pictures, you see a ton of dudes looking like the off duty defensive line for the Niners, not surrounded by chicks.
Those dudes are lames. But no one ever showed them another way.
WIA
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-10-15 12:09:00 路 #3331
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Thoughts?
WIA
Ogunn 路 2016-10-15 12:59:00 路 #3332
kirdiesel 路 2016-10-15 14:09:00 路 #3333
burncushlikewood 路 2016-10-15 18:56:00 路 #3334
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-10-15 20:00:00 路 #3335
*Laughing with Burns!*
WIA
WIA
Carmichael Reid 路 2016-10-15 20:21:00 路 #3336
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[quote='WestIndianArchie' pid='1418779' dateline='1476551372']
I would wear the Center and Far Right... It's kinda got a Nubian Tom Ford look. I would defintely wear it to a function I AM HOSTING. Never as a visitor.
The far right's jacket with a crisp white shirt. Money in the bank. I know I could make it work.
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I would wear the Center and Far Right... It's kinda got a Nubian Tom Ford look. I would defintely wear it to a function I AM HOSTING. Never as a visitor.
The far right's jacket with a crisp white shirt. Money in the bank. I know I could make it work.
BasketBounce 路 2016-10-16 07:24:00 路 #3337
(10-13-2016 02:42 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:More please on presidential game.(10-13-2016 12:40 PM)coverdoc Wrote: Dropping jewels just in time @Travesty @WIA.
I feel like my game is intermediate, has been for a while. A lot better than most guys, but like all men, I want more. What do you heavy hitting vets define as advanced game compared to intermediate game. As my day game skills return from slumber and my rusted over approach anxiety dwindles down i'm seeing it easier now to capitalize on finally advancing my game.
-CD
Zero to hero?
The intermediate player has his personal process down from meet to lay. He has mastered the basics.
In the intermediate stage, he wants to broaden his skill set.
Night game, day game, online, social circle, hired guns, travel game, secret society
Hotter chicks, objective 10's and subjective 10's.
Roster management, LTRs that work for him
Super fast pulls, long game, threesomes planned and unplanned,
So in my mind, before you get to the final boss, *laughing*,
There are two things I have in mind
Mastery of your particular social world aka presidential game. Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama are all said to have this one on one magnetism that makes whoever they're talking to feel like the only person in the room. Men and women alike. Instead of going after people and charming them, you shine and people turn in your direction.
The second part is what I would call world game. Same principal, but with girls only, but you make chicks feel like that despite not knowing the language or culture.
With these last two, you can see shades of them throughout your own game at different times.
Lemme know if you want more.
WIA
I'm considering joining this volunteering group at my job so that I can start planning volunteering events....eventually rising up to plan conferences and the like.
It'll also help me be constantly surrounded by people. It's the only way to really get good with people and learn how they work is to constantly test your material.
When it comes to game, I feel like more like a social scientist than a dude looking for romance.
Unfortunately, where I'm living, a lot of people eat recreationally, and that shit is expensive. Volunteering is the only way I can meet people without depleting my savings haha.
Yesterday at work, I injected some energy into my interactions with others by emoting with my face more often. In many ways I felt like a clown, but I also noticed that people emoted more, too, and it was easier to get them to laugh. I noticed that people gave me more compliments and seemed more willing to please me.
People often say "I can't tell if you're being serious or not!" because I'm quite sarcastic and deadpan. If I don't explicitly tell people "Oh, I'm just kidding!", they just go along with what I say.
This attempt at tugging at people's emotions was inspired by an excerpt from Gustave Le Bon's book "Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind". It's about influencing people in large groups of people. How many of you guys regularly attend charity events? Help plan fashion showcases? Organize fundraisers for local hospitals?
I'm tall, 6'3", people have told me that I should model. If people knew how mundane my life is, they'd probably laugh.
I just want a social presence that's congruent with other people tell me that I'm capable of, that's all.
I'm tired of waking up and wondering why my life isn't the fantasy land that other dudes think it is. I'm tired of being mediocre.
Thanks to the other cats that are constantly keeping me check...any time I get complacent or start to doubt myself, all I have to do is come back here to recognize that I still need work, that it can all be learned.
- Basket
Edit: Also wanted to point out that getting women to invest by command her and getting her to do errands is straight truth.
Had a former LTR cook breakfast for me all the fucking time, go grocery shopping for me, hell, her mom even knitted a sweater for me. We "broke up" bc we're in different states, but we still text.
I still command her to wear certain clothes and send me pics, she still sends me gifts, I tell her to read certain media, she offers to find information for me.
You can always lose a woman, of course...but when's the one writing seven page goodbye letters, and I'm the one sending 10-word text messages, you start asking questions.
Get your girls to make ethnic food for you! The challenge of finding the ingredients and the allure of learning about a new culture...she'll associate that with YOU. Feels for daaaaays
- Basket
Going strong 路 2016-10-16 07:44:00 路 #3338
(10-15-2016 12:09 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:
Thoughts?
WIA
They might try and land a job as fashion-consultants in Thailand:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-58785...pid1419324
DimeBait 路 2016-10-17 11:07:00 路 #3339
O.T. . . I went to a packed coffee shop this weekend to grade some papers and look-out for anything that struck my eye. Only seat I could find was on a couch across from three mildly attractive Chinese bishes chatting in Mandarin. Almost immediately, though I cannot speak Mandarin, I pick up a couple phrases where these bishes were talking about me and giggling like silly ass school girls. From what I could tell, they were making fleeting references on how big and black I was. I looked the main one dead in her face, smiled and said Ni Hao. Lol, the look on theses bishes faces was priceless. I swear they left within 2 minutes.
Lesson learned, I think I want to learn Mandarin. Is it possible without total cultural and linguistic submersion?
Lesson learned, I think I want to learn Mandarin. Is it possible without total cultural and linguistic submersion?
Il Bersagliere 路 2016-10-17 11:18:00 路 #3340
(10-17-2016 11:07 AM)DimeBait Wrote: O.T. . . I went to a packed coffee shop this weekend to grade some papers and look-out for anything that struck my eye. Only seat I could find was on a couch across from three mildly attractive Chinese bishes chatting in Mandarin. Almost immediately, though I cannot speak Mandarin, I pick up a couple phrases where these bishes were talking about me and giggling like silly ass school girls. From what I could tell, they were making fleeting references on how big and black I was. I looked the main one dead in her face, smiled and said Ni Hao. Lol, the look on theses bishes faces was priceless. I swear they left within 2 minutes.
Lesson learned, I think I want to learn Mandarin. Is it possible without total cultural and linguistic submersion?
Paging Fortis and Suits.
I know some rudimentary Chinese I picked up from YoYo Chinese. There are also apps like HelloTalk where you can converse with native speakers. Have fun.
Going strong 路 2016-10-17 11:19:00 路 #3341
(10-17-2016 11:07 AM)DimeBait Wrote: O.T. . . I went to a packed coffee shop this weekend to grade some papers and look-out for anything that struck my eye. Only seat I could find was on a couch across from three mildly attractive Chinese bishes chatting in Mandarin. Almost immediately, though I cannot speak Mandarin, I pick up a couple phrases where these bishes were talking about me and giggling like silly ass school girls. From what I could tell, they were making fleeting references on how big and black I was. I looked the main one dead in her face, smiled and said Ni Hao. Lol, the look on theses bishes faces was priceless. I swear they left within 2 minutes.
Lesson learned, I think I want to learn Mandarin. Is it possible without total cultural and linguistic submersion?
linguistic submersion-immersion is over-rated.
Because, let's be honest, linguistic submersion works if the language you are trying to learn is close to your own native language, or, especially easy (as in, not tonal, basic grammar, short words, etc) to learn.
For example, an Italian dude can go to South Am and through linguistic submersion, he will learn to speak Spanish, ok, no sweat.
But, if an ordinary Westerner goes to China and just lives there and doesn't work like crazy to learn the language - through long and painful studies with books and audios, then he won't progress much (if at all).
Anyway, consensus is, you'd need 3 years of hard study to become good at Mandarin.
kosko 路 2016-10-17 15:21:00 路 #3342
(10-15-2016 12:09 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:
Thoughts?
WIA
I used to dress loud like this but not formal but with streetstyle.
I could get away with the middle outfit depending on the jam and crowd. If it is a Black boho type jam, and if you got a fly ting on your arm you will command the room once you walk in.
Like others mentioned if you are hosting something you want to stand out. This is crazy and loud but it is still tasteful as it is well cut clothes.
I've toned it down over the years since being here in Toronto as dressing that loud here gets you the wrong attention from the wrong type of people.....
Better to NOT stick out over here sometimes.
Tayo 路 2016-10-18 11:04:00 路 #3343
Looks like Ankara (a west african fabric)... I have some made in form of casual shirts and I wear with black trousers and high top black sneakers.
(10-15-2016 06:56 PM)burncushlikewood Wrote:(10-15-2016 12:09 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:
Thoughts?
WIA
Those niggas look like they just got out of a time machine
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-10-18 11:25:00 路 #3344
On the morning train today. And I see this light bright with some serious thighs. When she got up, *bites fist at dat ass*
I'm thinking to myself, it's easier to pull a hot white girl than it is to pull one of these Halle Berry looking chicks.
Mainly because, (in the absence of decent game) Halle's primary audience is basically the most aggressive and put together black dudes out there.
With the white chick, you've got a durable competitive advantage. Blackness is a deep well to draw from. Actually this applies to any dude that's not cookie cutter suburban whiteness, which is baseline America.
And that brings me to another point.
On the black scale, this chick would be an 8, with the attitude to match.
Though plenty chicks have the attitude, they don't have the ASSets to back it up. There is some girl game there though, as even in our community, I'll see a dude with all the outer qualities that are on point, but he's hugged up with the proverbial Booger Wolf.
So old school PUA game was to say
"You're cute, but what else do you have going for yourself?"
Like most old school PUA, this was basically ripped from what guys that were "naturally good" with girls say to girls.
In terms of technique, this technique is a bit of a neg/self esteem deflator wrapped in a compliment, connected to a challenge, that girls love to respond to, and by doing so, she falls into your frame. She's reacting to you and trying to qualify herself to you.
The technique works well, just on straight technique. It gives you the reaction that you want, and puts her in the sales funnel. In a sense, it's a spell.
BUT
What if you genuinely wanted to know what else she had going for her?
The historical cool guy, who fucked lots of chicks, he wasn't just saying that shit to put the chick in the sales funnel. It wasn't a tactic. He genuinely wanted to know, and if she didn't actually meet his criteria, he was not going to take her seriously as an option.
To a top tier chick, she has all sorts of offers, world is a buffet, but the mental component is often missing.
Wanna chop game today, like everyday ha!
WIA
I'm thinking to myself, it's easier to pull a hot white girl than it is to pull one of these Halle Berry looking chicks.
Mainly because, (in the absence of decent game) Halle's primary audience is basically the most aggressive and put together black dudes out there.
With the white chick, you've got a durable competitive advantage. Blackness is a deep well to draw from. Actually this applies to any dude that's not cookie cutter suburban whiteness, which is baseline America.
And that brings me to another point.
On the black scale, this chick would be an 8, with the attitude to match.
Though plenty chicks have the attitude, they don't have the ASSets to back it up. There is some girl game there though, as even in our community, I'll see a dude with all the outer qualities that are on point, but he's hugged up with the proverbial Booger Wolf.
So old school PUA game was to say
"You're cute, but what else do you have going for yourself?"
Like most old school PUA, this was basically ripped from what guys that were "naturally good" with girls say to girls.
In terms of technique, this technique is a bit of a neg/self esteem deflator wrapped in a compliment, connected to a challenge, that girls love to respond to, and by doing so, she falls into your frame. She's reacting to you and trying to qualify herself to you.
The technique works well, just on straight technique. It gives you the reaction that you want, and puts her in the sales funnel. In a sense, it's a spell.
BUT
What if you genuinely wanted to know what else she had going for her?
The historical cool guy, who fucked lots of chicks, he wasn't just saying that shit to put the chick in the sales funnel. It wasn't a tactic. He genuinely wanted to know, and if she didn't actually meet his criteria, he was not going to take her seriously as an option.
To a top tier chick, she has all sorts of offers, world is a buffet, but the mental component is often missing.
Wanna chop game today, like everyday ha!
WIA
DimeBait 路 2016-10-18 11:26:00 路 #3345
I used to wear bright colors, I.e., neon green polo, white/green shorts & matching AF1's. Admittedly, I got plenty of attention from women when I went out, but now, I feel silly sticking out like a sore thumb due to loud colors. I much rather dress in traditional colors wearing suits, bow-ties and fedora's and standing out that way.
Nowadays, with damn near everyone dressing alike, it's not too hard to set yourself apart from the crowd.
Nowadays, with damn near everyone dressing alike, it's not too hard to set yourself apart from the crowd.
WestIndianArchie 路 2016-10-18 12:11:00 路 #3346
@Dime
The best way to stand out - visual + behavior
#2 Behavior
#3 Visual
As Puffy said, I talk a lot of shit, but I back it up!
So when you look like a boss, she wants you to back that up.
On the number 2 tip
- venue in mind
- befriend some chicks
- bring them to the venue
- walk in like a pimp
The chicks *at* the venue will open much easier than just wearing your 2,000 dollar suit.
Ask me how I know...
I made these mistakes so you don't have to!
WIA
The best way to stand out - visual + behavior
#2 Behavior
#3 Visual
As Puffy said, I talk a lot of shit, but I back it up!
So when you look like a boss, she wants you to back that up.
On the number 2 tip
- venue in mind
- befriend some chicks
- bring them to the venue
- walk in like a pimp
The chicks *at* the venue will open much easier than just wearing your 2,000 dollar suit.
Ask me how I know...
I made these mistakes so you don't have to!
WIA
MY DETROIT PLAYAS 路 2016-10-18 13:05:00 路 #3347
At that level of attractiveness, those type chicks aren't asked to qualify themselves as much as their less attractive counterparts. They are basically human accessories; great to look at but unattainable for a large cross-section of men. The last thing the average guy is going to do is ask her to bust some suds. Hell naw...he's going to buy the dishwasher for her to put those dishes in *soap included. Most guys are looking to appease her lest her fall out of the Queens' favor. The Halle Berry types even have an extra Teflon shield up to protect the shield that we see, but it's build up lack of being challenged in the way of expectations.
When a Player asks that same 8.5 what else she has going for her she automatically knows he can see past her present value so even though she might be looking right she will still need to have tangible skills/assets/abilties to keep his attention. Her go-to bait is her beauty, but for a good woman deep down once she's won you over you she needs to know that her hotness won't prevent you from carrying out your duties as the new sheriff in town or else what's the point?
The playing field becomes a little more even because whether he decides to fuck with her the long way will be predicated on what else she brings to the part besides her green eyes and juicy ass. Of course this doesn't always happen because guys don't always give her a good enough briefing. I still to this very day meet fine ass chicks who tell me (without hesitation) their cooking game ain't up to par. Still won't stop them from locking down a partner.
Her sex appeal gets her the "interview" but not necessarily the job
When a Player asks that same 8.5 what else she has going for her she automatically knows he can see past her present value so even though she might be looking right she will still need to have tangible skills/assets/abilties to keep his attention. Her go-to bait is her beauty, but for a good woman deep down once she's won you over you she needs to know that her hotness won't prevent you from carrying out your duties as the new sheriff in town or else what's the point?
The playing field becomes a little more even because whether he decides to fuck with her the long way will be predicated on what else she brings to the part besides her green eyes and juicy ass. Of course this doesn't always happen because guys don't always give her a good enough briefing. I still to this very day meet fine ass chicks who tell me (without hesitation) their cooking game ain't up to par. Still won't stop them from locking down a partner.
Her sex appeal gets her the "interview" but not necessarily the job
DimeBait 路 2016-10-18 13:56:00 路 #3348
^^Forrealz^^
I always say beautiful women are like luxury cars, whereas they require lots of expensive maintenance, but remain a depreciating asset which will eventually become worthless.
Whereas, men are like real estate, where we generally rise in value the older we become.
Nowadays, if she doesn't have brains, or some other valuable asset besides her looks, she's simply not LTR material.
I always say beautiful women are like luxury cars, whereas they require lots of expensive maintenance, but remain a depreciating asset which will eventually become worthless.
Whereas, men are like real estate, where we generally rise in value the older we become.
Nowadays, if she doesn't have brains, or some other valuable asset besides her looks, she's simply not LTR material.
thedarkknight 路 2016-10-18 15:41:00 路 #3349
(10-18-2016 01:05 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote: At that level of attractiveness, those type chicks aren't asked to qualify themselves as much as their less attractive counterparts. They are basically human accessories; great to look at but unattainable for a large cross-section of men. The last thing the average guy is going to do is ask her to bust some suds. Hell naw...he's going to buy the dishwasher for her to put those dishes in *soap included. Most guys are looking to appease her lest her fall out of the Queens' favor. The Halle Berry types even have an extra Teflon shield up to protect the shield that we see, but it's build up lack of being challenged in the way of expectations.
When a Player asks that same 8.5 what else she has going for her she automatically knows he can see past her present value so even though she might be looking right she will still need to have tangible skills/assets/abilties to keep his attention. Her go-to bait is her beauty, but for a good woman deep down once she's won you over you she needs to know that her hotness won't prevent you from carrying out your duties as the new sheriff in town or else what's the point?
The playing field becomes a little more even because whether he decides to fuck with her the long way will be predicated on what else she brings to the part besides her green eyes and juicy ass. Of course this doesn't always happen because guys don't always give her a good enough briefing. I still to this very day meet fine ass chicks who tell me (without hesitation) their cooking game ain't up to par. Still won't stop them from locking down a partner.
Her sex appeal gets her the "interview" but not necessarily the job
Disqualified.
coverdoc 路 2016-10-18 16:09:00 路 #3350
(10-18-2016 11:25 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: On the morning train today. And I see this light bright with some serious thighs. When she got up, *bites fist at dat ass*
I'm thinking to myself, it's easier to pull a hot white girl than it is to pull one of these Halle Berry looking chicks.
Mainly because, (in the absence of decent game) Halle's primary audience is basically the most aggressive and put together black dudes out there.
With the white chick, you've got a durable competitive advantage. Blackness is a deep well to draw from. Actually this applies to any dude that's not cookie cutter suburban whiteness, which is baseline America.
And that brings me to another point.
On the black scale, this chick would be an 8, with the attitude to match.
Though plenty chicks have the attitude, they don't have the ASSets to back it up. There is some girl game there though, as even in our community, I'll see a dude with all the outer qualities that are on point, but he's hugged up with the proverbial Booger Wolf.
So old school PUA game was to say
"You're cute, but what else do you have going for yourself?"
Like most old school PUA, this was basically ripped from what guys that were "naturally good" with girls say to girls.
In terms of technique, this technique is a bit of a neg/self esteem deflator wrapped in a compliment, connected to a challenge, that girls love to respond to, and by doing so, she falls into your frame. She's reacting to you and trying to qualify herself to you.
The technique works well, just on straight technique. It gives you the reaction that you want, and puts her in the sales funnel. In a sense, it's a spell.
BUT
What if you genuinely wanted to know what else she had going for her?
The historical cool guy, who fucked lots of chicks, he wasn't just saying that shit to put the chick in the sales funnel. It wasn't a tactic. He genuinely wanted to know, and if she didn't actually meet his criteria, he was not going to take her seriously as an option.
To a top tier chick, she has all sorts of offers, world is a buffet, but the mental component is often missing.
Wanna chop game today, like everyday ha!
WIA
It's funny you mention this. I've been going at sistas a little more lately. If I can't game them directly, ring finger locked down, colleagues around etc. I still try to strike up convo. I realized the quickest way to get to the 7.5+ sistas is the comedic asshole approach.
I actually learned this recently when I was at starbucks looking for my next becky, when this fine caramel toned black chick walks in. Body is 8, face 8. This fat black dude who comes in all the time to sing loud and watch worldstarhiphop on the free wifi instantly notices her. He does the typical walk by go to the bathroom routine. Comes back and i'm like this fool is about to get rejected. BRO this guy has her dying fucking laughing. Not going to lie, some of his shit even had me laughing. He pulled out all the stops, you could tell she was not feeling it at first, but if you're funny you're funny. Ends up getting her digits and all. I remember sitting their like yo,
I do agree that as a brother approaching a sista, your game has to be tighter than it would approaching a NBW. I'm free this weekend and going to try this out. Some of my naturally funny friends always end up with the cutest out their league sistas just based on the fact they laughed their way in. But some guys are naturals while others not so much, I think have random convos with everybody improves this, but only slightly.
Thoughts?
-CD