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LEMONed IScream · 2016-10-01 09:27:00 · #11776
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/10/...omb-scare/

Quote:The mayor of a small German town has been assaulted and beaten unconscious after receiving threats because he planned to settle migrants in the area.
Joachim Kebschull, the 61-year-old mayor of Oersdorf near Hamburg, was pushing to house migrants in a property in the town of 900.

The attack occurred immediately before a meeting of the town’s urban planning committee where migrant issues were due to be discussed.

According to police, the mayor had returned to his car to retrieve a laptop. As he leaned in, someone approached him and struck a blow to his head with either a club or a plank of wood, knocking him to the ground.

According to NDR, the mayor has received a threatening email following the attack. “Whoever is still unwilling to listen now, will certainly feel better,” it read.

Police spokesman Oliver Pohl explained that he had also been sent numerous threatening letters since July, long before the attack.

The planned migrant house has caused serious tensions in the town before, leading to meetings about the issue to be closed due to bomb threats.

In response, the local voter’s association issued a statement last month, arguing that the village was the perfect place to house migrants.

“Oersdorf is being talked about, and not in a good sense… There is a great effort to intimidate, seemingly because the committee wants to make a decision about housing for asylum seekers,” the association stated.

Adding: “If we could offer a new home in our village for a refugee family, we would gladly seize the opportunity, and in doing so could as a community provide people who had to flee their homeland with new prospects.

“And where would be a better place than in the heart of our village where people live so well with one another?”

Some Germans are getting pissed off and taking action.
eradicator · 2016-10-01 09:49:00 · #11777
(10-01-2016 06:27 AM)redpillage Wrote:  WHERE is the push back? If those guys exist somewhere today then they must be hibernating or something because if there was ever a time of need then it would be now

In Germany, the pushback will take a bit longer: they are all afraid of being called nazis and similar if they take any real action or speak out publicly against taking in millions of refugees.

Now that crime is through the roof, and the refugees are here to stay, that sentiment will have to change.
aeroektar · 2016-10-01 09:50:00 · #11778
Bulgaria bans the burqa
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...40601.html

In other news Viktor Orban continues to be a major shitlord:

BUDAPEST, Hungary – Muslims in Hungary say they are wary of the government's anti-migrant referendum which they say has boosted xenophobic feelings.

Prime Minister Viktor Orban has said Hungarians have "no problems" with the local Muslim community, but that any mandatory European Union quotas to relocate asylum seekers, including many Muslims, would destroy Hungary's Christian identity and culture.

Orban hopes that rejecting the EU quotas in Sunday's referendum will force Brussels to reconsider the scheme.

While Hungarians have been bombarded by the government's anti-migrant campaign, some 30 people took part in a "Muslims living among us" walking tour of a Budapest neighborhood to show the community's "human face."

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Timea Nagy, a Hungarian Muslim who participated in the three-hour tour, said that "I'm starting to feel that my own homeland is repudiating me."

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redpillage · 2016-10-01 11:11:00 · #11779
(10-01-2016 08:12 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I agree that we're seeing very little in the way of pushback now, but these things run their course in their own time.

Redpilage, you are at the front of this issue and feel alone but others are catching up as we speak. It's not going to happen overnight but anger and resentment are building. The men of Germany and France are not watching these terrorist attacks and rapes and shrugging their shoulders. For now they feel they have to remain silent because of their job or their friends or their higher education or whatever, but as times get harder they will have a lot less to lose and only then will we start to see what the modern European man is capable of.

Don't you think that men of the past, our ancestors had all these things to lose and then some? There was no social net, no public health care, no free nothing. If you got kicked out of your job then your family may have starved, period. But for some reason they were lining up to defend their nation and their culture if called upon.

Your response pretty much makes my point - and please understand that I'm not attacking you personally here. The reason I'm posting is not to simply vent any purported frustrations. I'm simply trying to yank you guys out of your mental frame and have an HONEST discussion not based on wishful thinking or trite rhetoric.

Because unless we are seeing things for what they really are we will be unable to help ourselves. And at minimum I want to prevent other nations to fall prey to the same mental brainwashing that led to the sacrifice of Northern Europe. There is still hope for our Western civilization - perhaps some of it has to find shelter in Eastern Europe or South America for a few generations. We won't see a reversal in our lifetimes but at least we should be remembered as the few who stood up and made a difference by laying the seed of a new future.
redpillage · 2016-10-01 11:15:00 · #11780
(10-01-2016 09:49 AM)eradicator Wrote:  
(10-01-2016 06:27 AM)redpillage Wrote:  WHERE is the push back? If those guys exist somewhere today then they must be hibernating or something because if there was ever a time of need then it would be now

In Germany, the pushback will take a bit longer: they are all afraid of being called nazis and similar if they take any real action or speak out publicly against taking in millions of refugees.

Now that crime is through the roof, and the refugees are here to stay, that sentiment will have to change.

And once again the Germans lack the civil courage to stand up against the party line. It's the 1930s all over again. What a bunch of cowards. Best thing I ever did was to leave that country many years ago, never to return.
serpico · 2016-10-01 11:46:00 · #11781
Fucking hell, are they getting government funded makeovers too? An afternoon with a style consultant and 500 euro voucher for clothing? An appointment with a Reiki practioner?

That mass migration is adding enormous pressure to public services has been confirmed by German dental professionals, who have warned the teeth of many immigrants are so bad they require significant work, which will cost the tax payer billions of Euros.

Describing the teeth of migrants who are coming to German dentists for work as “catastrophic” and often requiring total replacement, Baden-Württemberg dentists’ association chief Knuth Wolf said: “For the majority of refugees there is a need for a comprehensive dental treatment, or even dentures. There are corresponding costs with this”.

There are presently no official government estimates for the cost of healthcare to migrants by the German state. Operating the oldest national healthcare system in the world and pre-dating Britain’s National Health Service (NHS) by 50 years, the vast majority of Germans pay into private health insurance schemes and visit independent hospitals. Lacking this insurance, asylum seekers to Germany are only entitled to emergency treatment, yet the costs of dental care is mounting.

In cities like Hamburg, the city government has ordered the private insurance schemes to accept migrants onto their books, passing on the cost to local tax payers instead. And once asylum applications are accepted migrants receive the same insurance as other Germans alongside unemployment benefits automatically, if they are unable to find work.

With the costs of each dental treatment breaching €10,000, the estimated cost for the migrant invasion in teeth alone could be many billions of Euros, reports the Stuttgarter Nachrichten. In fact, if just 10 per cent of Germany’s total number of migrants claim for dental work, the bill would easily exceed €1bn.

Dental care is not the only public health area in which the migrant crisis is putting practitioners and facilities under unprecedented strain.

As reported by Breitbart London last year, a Gatestone Institute account of the healthcare situation in Germany found clinics and emergency rooms “filled to capacity”, and previously exterminated diseased making comebacks.

“German public health officials are now on the lookout for Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever, diphtheria, Ebola, hepatitis, HIV/AIDS, malaria, measles, meningitis, mumps, polio, scabies, tetanus, tuberculosis, typhus and whooping cough. As refugee shelters fill to overflowing, doctors are also on high alert for mass outbreaks of influenza and Norovirus”, says the report.
Zelcorpion · 2016-10-01 12:05:00 · #11782
(10-01-2016 11:46 AM)serpico Wrote:  Fucking hell, are they getting government funded makeovers too? An afternoon with a style consultant and 500 euro voucher for clothing? An appointment with a Reiki practioner?

That mass migration is adding enormous pressure to public services has been confirmed by German dental professionals, who have warned the teeth of many immigrants are so bad they require significant work, which will cost the tax payer billions of Euros.

Describing the teeth of migrants who are coming to German dentists for work as “catastrophic” and often requiring total replacement, Baden-Württemberg dentists’ association chief Knuth Wolf said: “For the majority of refugees there is a need for a comprehensive dental treatment, or even dentures. There are corresponding costs with this”.

There are presently no official government estimates for the cost of healthcare to migrants by the German state. Operating the oldest national healthcare system in the world and pre-dating Britain’s National Health Service (NHS) by 50 years, the vast majority of Germans pay into private health insurance schemes and visit independent hospitals. Lacking this insurance, asylum seekers to Germany are only entitled to emergency treatment, yet the costs of dental care is mounting.

In cities like Hamburg, the city government has ordered the private insurance schemes to accept migrants onto their books, passing on the cost to local tax payers instead. And once asylum applications are accepted migrants receive the same insurance as other Germans alongside unemployment benefits automatically, if they are unable to find work.

With the costs of each dental treatment breaching €10,000, the estimated cost for the migrant invasion in teeth alone could be many billions of Euros, reports the Stuttgarter Nachrichten. In fact, if just 10 per cent of Germany’s total number of migrants claim for dental work, the bill would easily exceed €1bn.

Dental care is not the only public health area in which the migrant crisis is putting practitioners and facilities under unprecedented strain.

As reported by Breitbart London last year, a Gatestone Institute account of the healthcare situation in Germany found clinics and emergency rooms “filled to capacity”, and previously exterminated diseased making comebacks.

“German public health officials are now on the lookout for Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever, diphtheria, Ebola, hepatitis, HIV/AIDS, malaria, measles, meningitis, mumps, polio, scabies, tetanus, tuberculosis, typhus and whooping cough. As refugee shelters fill to overflowing, doctors are also on high alert for mass outbreaks of influenza and Norovirus”, says the report.

That's the economic boom some of the buggers have been talking about. Simple debt expansion - of course as with all socialist measures, a much better way would have been by giving the bottom 50% a cash transfer or using some billions to provide for adequate housing for the homeless. At least that money is more likely to stay in Germany. Because a lot of the transfer payments to the rapefugees will instantly leave the German economy (some going on holidays back home ASAP). Nevermind that the grateful migrants will still despise the infidel bastards who pay for it all.

Dental treatment, luxury lodgings (as cheap ones are no longer available), tens of millions for cab rides, dating classes (how to fuck German women while not raping them) etc.

The dental treatments in Germany are just like in Sweden a pure lunacy. Swedish pensioners who have paid taxes their whole lives have to pay to get their teeth fixd properly. A 70yo Iraqi can have it done for free while being in the country 1 month and not having paid anything into the Swedish economy. That is how things are done.
Also there were reports that Britain has put rapefugees into a priority class at the NHS. So essentially a "Syrian" rapefugee gets the treatment months or years before a local Brit ever gets the green light.

The elite truly hate the guts of all those pesky Europeans. They give the new soulmates special treatment - right before the final slaughter of course, but that is still decades down the line.
serpico · 2016-10-01 13:16:00 · #11783
(09-30-2016 09:56 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  
Napolean Wrote:One Mameluk is stronger than two French soldiers, 100 Mameluks is equal to 150 French soldiers, but 300 Frenchmen will defeat 300 Mameluks, and 1500 Mameluks will always lose to 1000 Frenchmen


If I had to guess, it's because some cultures are better at teamwork.

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Parzival · 2016-10-01 13:37:00 · #11784
What I can say about Germans is that the tension is at the peak.

http://www.blickpunkt-arnsberg-sundern.d...innerfeld/

Quote:First investigations show that a drunken 15-year-old Afghan molesting a 15-year-old girl from Arnsberg. The youth tried to kiss the young woman. As two female friends wanted to help the girl, they were held by other immigrants and insulted. The three girls agreed then their friends, which a short time later, appeared with a baseball bat. There was a brawl between the refugees and the three 17 to 20-year-old friends. In addressing a 17 year old from Arnsberg was slightly injured. An employee of a youth center was also slightly injured.

The baseball bat was ensured by the police. The group of five immigrants could be encountered in connection with the investigation. After their identities, the group was released.

http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/...16423.html
Quote:In Sangerhausen in Saxony-Anhalt on Friday night about 20 locals and several Syrian asylum seekers were fighting. Three Syrians were slightly injured, police said in Halle on Saturday.

Let there be a possible xenophobic background checked and the state protection have launched an investigation. Trigger for the brawl could be an injury that should have caused a 15 year old Syrian to a 16-year Sangerhäuser on Wednesday

The stuff that goes on is just to much to post everything that happen every day. For those of you that speak German, follow
https://www.facebook.com/XY-Einzelfall-1...3/?fref=ts

They post articles about the crimes of migrants.
iknowexactly · 2016-10-01 15:07:00 · #11785
(10-01-2016 01:47 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  This is not white supremacy speaking - just common sense. It's not that the Muslim world could not theoretically do the same for some genetic reason - they just have many things limiting them - mostly it is their religion, but they refuse to acknowledge that. It is tough for them to face the fact that the very thing that united them in the past and made their empire great now limits them the most.

Going against the neo-masculine tide here, but one problem with Islam may be huge under-utilization of their female minds. Even taking the position that women are, say, 80% as intelligent as men in spatial reasoning and overall creative executive functioning (I believe in USA 97% of patents are by men); there are far more jobs and roles that women can do well than they can't. The men who obtain patents are the top 1% intellecvtually, but women are at least men's equals verbally in everything but very high level rhetoric.

If you argue that point, you have to explain the massive creative and economic deficits of all these countries: they invent NOTHING.

One could argue retrograde Islam is a bunch of guys scared of women so they keep them chained up like animals, or scared of men's reaction to women.

There's an optimal balance to the role of women-- in the West they're encouraged to work totally dedicated to the Corporation, forgoing children; and they are fed the lie that they are men's equals or superiors in every way. There's a benefit in this in that the brilliant women who are doctors, other high level professionals get utilized unlike they would have been in the 19th century, but the cost is huge in demographics. As Roosh has argued, many women forgo children simply to work as glorified paper pushers in organizations. I personally have worked under them-- they are called "directors", "chiefs" or "managers" but in reality they mostly hang around gossiping with their work friends. These intellectually mediocre women would have been more of a benefit if they had had more children instead of hanging around offices doing essentially nothing.

In retrograde Islam, things are taken to the other extreme and it's even worse-- women are treated like breeder idiots; causing a huge competitive deficit to their countries and producing a surplus of men used to being considered totally superior to women. these men are also intellectually inferior on the whole, in part due to having grown up in economic/intellectual stagnation and/or the pointless, endless war MENA countries seem to favor. One has to recognize the huge economic input of oil, which is sort of a massive welfare benefit bestowed by nature hiding the moronic values of a country like Saudi Arabia.

One could argue that in Eastern Europe feminity (fecundity) is still valued but there are still female math professors, as there should be if ability is recognized. Other problems with low trust in EE have reduced their economic growth and fertility, but in that aspect there is wisdom.
Parzival · 2016-10-01 15:41:00 · #11786
Women are not breeder idiots in Islam. They are the ones that push Islam on to their sons. The attitude of shaming to the daughter that she becomes a slut and dishonour the family and that the son is the king that can take everything. Behind the honour killings stands often a mother as well. These days women in Islam for up to slut shame non Muslim girls. They join ISIS by free will, they plan terror attacks and commit suicide attacks as well. Some time ago I've seen a report about the Mothers of Hamas. When we think the women in Islam are oppressed we thing wrong. Yes some are, more follow the code and rules because if not they will be outcast. Still the most take pride in it to stand in the front-line for their faith.

A western example of this is women's organisations before world war I. They did public shaming of men when they did not volunteer for the war. It's an extreme fetish that you can see with hardcore fitness people as well. They feel better for their strict training and diet. It make them feel superior. The more they renounce temptation the more pride they feel. For Islam to scarify their life to Allah is their value. The Muslim woman is not the victim, she is the one that rise the generation of the radicals we face today.
iknowexactly · 2016-10-01 16:00:00 · #11787
(10-01-2016 03:41 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Women are not breeder idiots in Islam. They are the ones that push Islam on to their sons.

I think you make a valuable point. I just look at it differently, anyone pushing a backwards religion on someone is an idiot-- but you are right from the point of view that are successful at increasing the power of the backwards thinking. It's like an extremely contagious disease-- it's "successful" at maintaining itself, but the overall result is negative. Like hemorrhagic fever.
weambulance · 2016-10-01 16:08:00 · #11788
Quote:Academic discussion threads like this are the very reason why I have long given up hope on Western Europe. 50 or 100 years ago there would have been millions of Europeans in the streets every single week, protesting against this invasion and if need be actively resisting it. But in the age of instant worldwide communication that seems to be somehow impossible. Just like protecting borders is now considered impossible.

So why the hell are you in this thread? To demoralize everyone else because you've given up hope?
Pride male · 2016-10-01 16:09:00 · #11789
A Christian Europe might have stood up to Judaism and Islam. Atheism and liberalism seemed to have destroyed the Wests religious unity.

Those who dont stand for something will fall for anything.
Parzival · 2016-10-01 16:17:00 · #11790
(10-01-2016 04:00 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  
(10-01-2016 03:41 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Women are not breeder idiots in Islam. They are the ones that push Islam on to their sons.

I think you make a valuable point. I just look at it differently, anyone pushing a backwards religion on someone is an idiot-- but you are right from the point of view that are successful at increasing the power of the backwards thinking. It's like an extremely contagious disease-- it's "successful" at maintaining itself, but the overall result is negative. Like hemorrhagic fever.

I did write this not as disagreement to your statement. Just to add this point of view. They are maybe idiotic or enslaved from our point of view but they live by complete different values. Islam is like the Zerg Queen that absorbs everything.


About the faith in Christianity. Christianity and the Church did hold Europe in ignorance. It was the age of enlightenment and the rules and laws of free people that did rise the faith of Europe, of economy, of science. Not of religion. To believe in something, to have value for something you don't need the faith of Christianity or any other greedy religion that demand power over people. The free thinking, the free will, criticism and enlightenment lead to development. Not dogmas that bound people. This is may seen different in the USA but the first settlers and pilgrims of the USA had be the most radical extremist in Europe and got kicked out because of their fanatic points of view.
weambulance · 2016-10-01 16:28:00 · #11791
Town Mayor Beaten Unconscious By Locals After Announcing Plan To Welcome Migrants

Quote:The mayor of a small German town has been assaulted and beaten unconscious after receiving threats because he planned to settle migrants in the area.

Joachim Kebschull, the 61-year-old mayor of Oersdorf near Hamburg, was pushing to house migrants in a property in the town of 900.

The attack occurred immediately before a meeting of the town’s urban planning committee where migrant issues were due to be discussed.

According to police, the mayor had returned to his car to retrieve a laptop. As he leaned in, someone approached him and struck a blow to his head with either a club or a plank of wood, knocking him to the ground.

According to NDR, the mayor has received a threatening email following the attack. “Whoever is still unwilling to listen now, will certainly feel better,” it read.

Police spokesman Oliver Pohl explained that he had also been sent numerous threatening letters since July, long before the attack.

The planned migrant house has caused serious tensions in the town before, leading to meetings about the issue to be closed due to bomb threats.
Lizard King · 2016-10-01 16:46:00 · #11792
(10-01-2016 01:28 AM)Rocha Wrote:  
(09-30-2016 07:17 PM)weambulance Wrote:  
Quote:all nations and peoples are capable of producing excellent warriors

All nations -- Not really. What makes western armies so successful (and Japanese back in the day, as another example) is our culture.

Here's an interesting piece worth reading, written by a former SF weapons sergeant:

What Separates First and Third World Armies?

Other things like attitudes toward hard work, class consciousness, taking the initiative, etc all affect how effective an army will be. What part of the populace the soldiers are drawn from, soldier intelligence and education, etc also matter quite a lot. I don't want to write a novel about this here, but it's not unreasonable to say the general quality of recruits before training starts is much higher in western armies than in most of the rest of the world. And of course non-white soldiers in the US Army--or other highly professional military organizations--can be extremely competent. I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise.

The other point I want to make is more of a nitpick: soldiers aren't warriors, and all warrior virtues are not necessarily good for soldiers to have. The fundamental difference in my mind is warriors are geared more toward individual effort in the fight, whereas soldiers train to work together toward a common goal. Soldiers are much, much more dangerous than warriors in a large scale conflict. I'm aware this is largely a semantic distinction but it's useful for illustrating my next point.

It just so happens that armies from muslim nations lack most of the cultural advantages we have in the West, and they don't make great soldiers. Oh, they can be very brave and warrior-like in their own way, but that doesn't work nearly as well against an organized force of soldiers as it does when they're gunning down unarmed civilians and fighting whatever cops happened to be nearby. And that's why we mop the floor with them every time we fight them. It's not just our tech. Tech helps, but even using nothing but small arms and communication a group of soldiers is worth several times that many individual warrior types.

yeah, this is all very beautiful, but facts is that these muslim mofos where in Iberia for 800 years and later conquered Byzantium and were at the Gates of Vienna.

Do not underestimate your enemy using white supremacy bullshit.

We must not ignore the bigger picture.

"White supremacy" is not the problem here, nor is the historiography of Europe's conflicts with Islam.

We need European cultural supremacy(derived from strong individual Euro states), not a pan-European collective cucking to banks and corporations.
Zelcorpion · 2016-10-01 16:47:00 · #11793
(10-01-2016 04:17 PM)Parzival Wrote:  
(10-01-2016 04:00 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  
(10-01-2016 03:41 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Women are not breeder idiots in Islam. They are the ones that push Islam on to their sons.

I think you make a valuable point. I just look at it differently, anyone pushing a backwards religion on someone is an idiot-- but you are right from the point of view that are successful at increasing the power of the backwards thinking. It's like an extremely contagious disease-- it's "successful" at maintaining itself, but the overall result is negative. Like hemorrhagic fever.

I did write this not as disagreement to your statement. Just to add this point of view. They are maybe idiotic or enslaved from our point of view but they live by complete different values. Islam is like the Zerg Queen that absorbs everything.

About the faith in Christianity. Christianity and the Church did hold Europe in ignorance. It was the age of enlightenment and the rules and laws of free people that did rise the faith of Europe, of economy, of science. Not of religion. To believe in something, to have value for something you don't need the faith of Christianity or any other greedy religion that demand power over people. The free thinking, the free will, criticism and enlightenment lead to development. Not dogmas that bound people. This is may seen different in the USA but the first settlers and pilgrims of the USA had be the most radical extremist in Europe and got kicked out because of their fanatic points of view.

Iknowexactly - you are completely against the manosphere grain, but also completely against the reality out there. In some countries you have scores of women studying whatever they want and even going into professions at rates of 50%. Let us take one of those examples where women are studying medicine at the rate of 50%.

How many of those are scientists and actually advancing medical science and technology? At best they are doing those bullshit meta studies out there that prove nothing new.

I don't want to deny highly intelligent women the chance to do something worthwhile, because my mother is such a high-IQ woman with a STEM degree, but the truth of the matter is this: She admitted to me that she actually hated her job as a construction engineer (calculating skyscraper materials etc.). She was very good at it, but she did not like it. Now she stays at home and does pottery art. Frankly she could have done that her whole life being a housewife and doing art, walking the dog and raising the kids. She would have been much happier, though her pride would not admit that.

Nah - we don't need the female creative contribution. At best it would add 2% to the cultural advancement. But - we certainly like them around as secretaries, as eye candy, as pleasurable companions occasionally, a cute waitress is so much better than a bloke serving you food. The few high-performing super-creative women are welcome and men would love to have them around. The problem is that unless you push them heavily like in our current system, then there would really be very few at least at the very same level. You seen the movie "Tomorrowland" with George Clooney where a city supposedly exists where the most intelligent scientists move replicating a 50/50 gender ratio? Bullshit - IQ distribution and STEM interest would make that city a sausage fest of epic proportions. If you took in only geniuses who were scientifically interested then it would be 95% male and who would like to live in such a city permanently?

Nah - the Muslim world is not held back by the few genius women who pop out babies - it is held back by:

1. Islam
2. Islam
3. Islam
4. Islam

- all manifested in:

1. Islam in STEM. My Persian friends who studied medicine told me that they had to do first plenty of Quran studies when started. Plenty of crap is being told the students that is colored by Islam. And that is a more or less scientific study - the others are even worse.
2. Inbreeding - lowers IQs by 20% and gives plenty of birth defects - also promoted by Islam as Mohammed and his family and followers later on
3. Pregnancy problems - massive vitamin D3 deficiency of their women because they never get enough sun (and do not supplement obviously), also the Ramadan fasting during pregnancy shaves off some more points in IQ
4. Various mental engrams that are fostered by Islam and the Arabic culture it brings - it is an Arab supremacist religion so they copy that viewpoint. Essentially you copy mentally the behavior of a desert warlord. Lots of sitting around, lots of drinking coffee, lots of fucking the slave girls and wives, then some combat, looting and raping, then followed by more sitting around. (The rich Arab states do everything except the fighting now.) Other cultures had negative mindsets as welll - Eastern Europeans and Russians abhorred work, even intellectual work - a nobleman only had to have property, while the protestants in England and Germany were all work and industry - way more productive.

The suppression of women is another problem, but rather more that it increases inbreeding (as they meet mostly only their family members and fall in love with them) and it creates sexual frustration and social awkwardness between sexes. It strangely creates a culture of MORE SEXUAL PERVERSION AND OBSESSION than if it were more liberal. The Muslim world consumes more than 50% of worldwide porn for a good reason. When you suppress something too much, then you achieve the opposite thing.

A conservative but positively sexual attitude towards sex and gender relations is way better for society. Best is to teach chastity before marriage, but also allow for prostitution as well as for the few sluts to run around. That way most women are chaste at marriage while the few sluts and prostitutes serve the needs of many men and blow off steam. That is how the West was for a long time and it was good - it worked. The Muslim system does not work.

And the suppression of female geniuses - that is worth as good as nothing.
debeguiled · 2016-10-01 17:40:00 · #11794
Quote:I don't want to deny highly intelligent women the chance to do something worthwhile, because my mother is such a high-IQ woman with a STEM degree, but the truth of the matter is this: She admitted to me that she actually hated her job as a construction engineer (calculating skyscraper materials etc.). She was very good at it, but she did not like it. Now she stays at home and does pottery art. Frankly she could have done that her whole life being a housewife and doing art, walking the dog and raising the kids. She would have been much happier, though her pride would not admit that.

Any feminist propagandist worth her keep would dismiss this as anecdotal, but it really made me laugh. If we could make a society with incentives for women to be honest, the idea of the manlike powerful independent woman would disappear except for a few miserable mannish outliers like the architect Zaha Hadid.

Her work:

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Her face:

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Not a happy person. Never married, never had kids. Was harsh on underlings.

Some great looking work, which seemed to disintegrate the minute someone tried to live there:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign...d-profile-

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/08/the-h...aha-hadid/

Just another strong willed woman in a man's world, forgoing all feminine positive qualities to be a pretend man.

An important point you make about your mom, and one that particularly scales to all woman, even though they accuse men of this, the opposite is true. It is their egos that is their undoing.

Would have been happy doing pottery art. Or growing tomatoes and releasing lady bugs from their fingers as a natural bug killer. Or just feeding the kids and putting them down for naps they don't want, then slipping into a warm tub and blowing bubbles with her nose in the tub all day.

But no, their egos can't admit the truth.

This is a far more relevant fact than the relative I.Q.s of men and women, or their ambition, or anything else.

It is not that they wouldn't be happier at home with the kids, it is that they don't want to give any man the satisfaction of being right, because in their insane little minds they believe that men care about it as much as they do.

Men want peace, especially at home, with their happy wives happy when they come home from a long day.

And women would want the same thing too, as long as no one else wanted it, or said so.

So it never happens. To keep them happy.

Being unhappy.

Some pretty cool designs though:

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Rocha · 2016-10-01 18:21:00 · #11795
(10-01-2016 04:24 AM)weambulance Wrote:  
(10-01-2016 01:28 AM)Rocha Wrote:  yeah, this is all very beautiful, but facts is that these muslim mofos where in Iberia for 800 years and later conquered Byzantium and were at the Gates of Vienna.

Do not underestimate your enemy using white supremacy bullshit.

In other words, you didn't understand what I wrote and decided to lash out with an baseless accusation.

Good one. Maybe you can point out where I mentioned race as a primary factor in determining martial efficacy? Here's a hint to get you going: "muslim" isn't a race.

Despite your lack of understanding, I invite you to consider that what muslims did centuries ago may not have much bearing on what they can do now. And as such, it is hardly a compelling argument.


Edit - nicer language

Sorry for the language, and possible misinterpretation of your post.

Just to contextualize the reason of my rant, is my despise for the term "white supremacy" and all related. The world knows that white people and western civilization are responsible for the bulk of technological and social developments, at least in the last 500 years, since the age of the discoveries. It is a reductive term and ideal. What is truly good do not need advertisement, like the french wines, they are the best, everyone knows, and they sell for themselves, no ad's needed.

Subversive (mainstream?) propaganda on diversity, white guilt, colonial crimes, is winning for the last 50 years, "white supremacy" ideals are always loosing, because the term and in itself is deemed to failure. The reversal of leftist diversity ideals shall be done pointing how bad they are, and less on focusing on how good we (western civilization) are.

So, I think mental masturbation on how good of a soldiers western people can be will lead to nowhere, when the biggest enemy comes from within, and that is the one that shall be defeated.
redpillage · 2016-10-01 18:21:00 · #11796
(10-01-2016 04:08 PM)weambulance Wrote:  
Quote:Academic discussion threads like this are the very reason why I have long given up hope on Western Europe. 50 or 100 years ago there would have been millions of Europeans in the streets every single week, protesting against this invasion and if need be actively resisting it. But in the age of instant worldwide communication that seems to be somehow impossible. Just like protecting borders is now considered impossible.

So why the hell are you in this thread? To demoralize everyone else because you've given up hope?

Nope - to shake you guys up a little. False hope won't help you in the long run. But of course you are free to debate the superiority of Western warriors until the cows come home. Won't help you much though if you get jumped by a group of cultural enrichers at night in some dark alley.

If you can wrap your mind around the realities on the ground and where Europe is heading over the next five to ten years then you may be able to at least safe yourself and your family. Perhaps work on establishing a new life in a place that won't have to suffer under Sharia law.
iknowexactly · 2016-10-01 20:09:00 · #11797
(10-01-2016 04:17 PM)Parzival Wrote:  
(10-01-2016 04:00 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  
(10-01-2016 03:41 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Women are not breeder idiots in Islam. They are the ones that push Islam on to their sons.

I think you make a valuable point. I just look at it differently, anyone pushing a backwards religion on someone is an idiot-...

I did write this not as disagreement to your statement. Just to add this point of view. They are maybe idiotic or enslaved from our point of view....

About the faith in Christianity. Christianity and the Church did hold Europe in ignorance. It was the age of enlightenment and the rules and laws of free people that did rise the faith of Europe, of economy, of science. Not of religion.

More good input which helps us to a synthesis. Neo-masculines are making in error in thinking all liberals are pro-MENA-immigration, and in constantly using the word liberal as synonymous with villainy.

As a classical liberal, I am an immigration hawk because obviously Islam is the most absolutely anti-liberal, fascistic religion in its literal form., and research indicates the religion's fascistic ideas have a lot of sympathy among the non-violent majority.

The alt-right has many, many potential allies in the educated class who are not eager to see a bunch of sullen, uneducated MENA "refugees" and their moving tent women taking over neighborhoods.

Sub-groups of Muslims who preach violence should be re-categorized as terrorist groups to remove the protection legitimate religions rightly enjoy. The Founders were geniuses in trying to get the subject of religion out of public life, I don't know enough history to understand how or why the murderous aspects of Islam are considered religion.
Leonard D Neubache · 2016-10-01 21:24:00 · #11798
(10-01-2016 06:21 PM)Rocha Wrote:  ...
So, I think mental masturbation on how good of a soldiers western people can be will lead to nowhere, when the biggest enemy comes from within, and that is the one that shall be defeated.

This is in essence the logical trap that hamstrings white men.

By refusing to accept and celebrate their genetic potential as compared to others they are destined to run the hamster wheel of "everyone is the same and nobody deserves to win".

It's bullshit. White people must be freed from their mental bondage and it has nothing to do with "mental masturbation". In order to succeed you have to believe you can succeed. If your belief in your race boils down to "there are more of the enemy than there are of us so we're going to lose" then you're going to lose.

But history is rife with examples that Europeans can laugh in the face of superior numbers, and internalising that, drawing strength from the greatness of your ancestors, you want to call "mental masturbation?"

Not interested.

p.s. Trying to push "european cultural values" is poorly veiled code for what we all know that actually means and when you dance around obvious truths in order to avoid triggering wimps you place yourself in a political no-man's land where nobody from either side takes you seriously.

I don't give a fuck if non-white people want to live in Europe side by side with whites in peace. So much the better. My wife is latina and I would still fight tooth and nail against Australia being overrun by South Americans (for example), but let's not play the blue-pill game and pretend that Europe would have been the hub of modern civilisation regardless of whether white people had never existed. We all know that's a fucking joke and we need to call it out as such regardless of whether it hurts someone's feelings.

So maybe I get banned for this, but if grown ass adults can't bring themselves to say the words "Europe is the homeland of whites and ought to remain a predominantly white region" then it doesn't matter what premise you bring to the table because you've already decided that speaking truth to power is beyond your capacity as a man.
Rocha · 2016-10-02 00:33:00 · #11799
(10-01-2016 09:24 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(10-01-2016 06:21 PM)Rocha Wrote:  ...
So, I think mental masturbation on how good of a soldiers western people can be will lead to nowhere, when the biggest enemy comes from within, and that is the one that shall be defeated.

This is in essence the logical trap that hamstrings white men.

By refusing to accept and celebrate their genetic potential as compared to others they are destined to run the hamster wheel of "everyone is the same and nobody deserves to win".

It's bullshit. White people must be freed from their mental bondage and it has nothing to do with "mental masturbation". In order to succeed you have to believe you can succeed. If your belief in your race boils down to "there are more of the enemy than there are of us so we're going to lose" then you're going to lose.

But history is rife with examples that Europeans can laugh in the face of superior numbers, and internalising that, drawing strength from the greatness of your ancestors, you want to call "mental masturbation?"

Not interested.

p.s. Trying to push "european cultural values" is poorly veiled code for what we all know that actually means and when you dance around obvious truths in order to avoid triggering wimps you place yourself in a political no-man's land where nobody from either side takes you seriously.

I don't give a fuck if non-white people want to live in Europe side by side with whites in peace. So much the better. My wife is latina and I would still fight tooth and nail against Australia being overrun by South Americans (for example), but let's not play the blue-pill game and pretend that Europe would have been the hub of modern civilisation regardless of whether white people had never existed. We all know that's a fucking joke and we need to call it out as such regardless of whether it hurts someone's feelings.

So maybe I get banned for this, but if grown ass adults can't bring themselves to say the words "Europe is the homeland of whites and ought to remain a predominantly white region" then it doesn't matter what premise you bring to the table because you've already decided that speaking truth to power is beyond your capacity as a man.

I seriously hope not, I was the 3d guy to rep you and I love your posts.

You should read and contextualize all of my post, and not just pick apart the last sentence.

Like I said a couple of posts back, hard to be as white and proud as me. But less talk and more action, and by this I mean within our scope. Not theorize in the high of our inner castles.
Pride male · 2016-10-02 02:11:00 · #11800
Is there any chance the Middle East can become a peaceful region first so the Muslims can be encouraged to go home? I dont know, put a Saddam 2.0 in place? A strong dictator to keep the radicals at bay.
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