(09-28-2016 09:33 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 09:15 AM)Pride male Wrote:  ^Who will protect the Jews from the Arabs when the whites are no longer around to fight their wars?

I think deep down the Arabs are scared shitless of Israel. Sure, the Palestinians can launch a few half-assed rockets into Sderot or whatever but they know better than to fuck with one of the world's best-equipped militaries.

I think Israel can turn every Arab capitol into glass in an hour with nukes. Also, every Arab ruler is probably very aware personally that serious interference with Israel means the death of every relative he has to the Nth degree.

It took a few hundred thousand white dudes to conquer India, Africa etc. I am sure Europeans can hold it down when they are a minority in their countries.

(09-28-2016 03:25 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Redpillage speaks my mind.

Nobody here is naive enough to think that any world power can stand up to the firepower of the West on open combat, come on Zel... What we are saying is that, you will never get to use that firepower. Right now the army is like a bazooka in the hand of a feminist. Not only is it useless, its probably gonna hurt you more than the enemy.

Because if our armies are so effective, why would we be in this mess in the first place? It takes maybe one patrol of NATO cruiser to stop the migrant invasion, but has anyone done it? Has anyone done anything, to be precise?

I agree, trying to "cleanse" or deport undesirable immigrants from cities of a developed democracy is the diametrical opposite of a regular military confrontation with two forces originating from two different areas.

The blowback from indigenous Euro casualties would be completely crippling. You cannot start blowing up whole blocks in Paris to force homegrown terrorists out of hiding.

Letting them is a result of the developed democracies not realizing how precious and fragile and wonderful those gentle, developed economies based on trust are.

They have no idea how good they had it, and how they're introducing aggressive strains into their culture. It's too late.

It would have taken a vigorous pro-fertility campaign starting in the 1960s and that directly conflicted with feminism,and didn't and won't happen.

(09-28-2016 11:29 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  ...
Genuinely curious - do you have a source for this incredible kill ratio claim?

I chanced upon an article at least four years ago ago and ran it past several good friends who served in that conflict who confirmed that it was not uncommon to achieve this but who never brought it up because to most people it seemed too ridiculous to be true.

Fifteen minutes of dedicated Google searching and I can can't find it. Frustrating, but I can completely understand if nobody is convinced.

Though this is delving into the "genetics determines IQ race butthurt waaaah" threads, genetic IQ is a fact and there is no reason to believe that it wouldn't manifest itself on the modern battlefield, perhaps even more so because there is no reason to cushion your enemy's failures in that instance as we do in general society.

We've all seen the footage of idiots in Libya and beyond running up to the edge of sand banks and unloading AK mags from the hip at enemies miles away in the vague hope of hitting something. This is not uncommon behaviour among populations with low IQs. A disdain for logic where it interferes with faith in god or luck or the spirits, particularly when the discomfort of patience and training come into play.

(09-28-2016 03:25 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  .
Secondly, what is the Muslim world? If you count that as all people who identify as Muslim, well thats probably a quarter of Paris or London, and those are Western born, nevermind the migrants. How are you gonna do it? Nuke your own city? Going on raids while your white cunts going on Muslim love protests?

France has one of the top anti-terrorist and intelligence special forces in the world. They trained US SF for god's sake. And have they done anything? Alreadly wide rumors are spread that the government knew of the attacks all along but didnt do anything.
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I dont see how China or Russia has anything to do with this. China being the opportunist they are will sit by and profit, or get lost in their grand dream of imperialism. Russia will just look to its own borders.

Mate - our understanding of who and what the elite truly are differs immensely. It is not Merkel and it is not Soros or Gates.

It is far beyond that.

First China - do you think that the globalist elite would shift their ENTIRE PRODUCTIVE CAPACITY INCLUDING HIGH-TECH TECHNOLOGY TO CHINA IF THEY DID NOT CONTROL IT 100%? come on...

Also - you have to understand the following:

1) THEY WANT TERROR TO HAPPEN - at least some of it- they will stop only few or that which cannot be stopped (random stabbings will happen nonetheless - big things happen probably only because they want it to happen)

2) The migrant crisis was created by them - why should they stop it? They bombed and color-revolutioned secular Muslim countries to create the refugee crisis. They bankrupted African farmers with cheap subsidized food imports from the EU. They want the diversity to come.

3) if you really think that the globalists will just let the Muslims recreate a caliphate in Europe and then get killed off one by one in their penthouses - also that they will just sit and wait while Israel gets eliminated and all Jews slaughtered, then you don't know anything about the elite. This will never ever happen. The entire war machine will turn on them.

4) Also - for those who think that combat ability is created by aggressive masculine behavior in the streets, then you are mistaken as well. Soldiers have to be physically fit, strong (6 weeks basic training and the 6,3 hipster is muscled up), disciplined, somewhat intelligent and motivated. And they will be motivated when the sneaker-barbarians slaughter millions in Europe.

An army does not win by being aggressive and brave alone. Otherwise we would be all living in the middle Ages already under a global caliphate. In the Middle East they view aggression as a normal conflict resoluation while in the West and Asia it is a sign of weakness. Aggression is reserved on the battlefield and it has to be done swiftly and with precision - Samurai style, not a rampaging idiot who burns everything down and pillages everything.

(09-29-2016 01:10 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(09-28-2016 11:29 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  ...
Genuinely curious - do you have a source for this incredible kill ratio claim?

I chanced upon an article at least four years ago ago and ran it past several good friends who served in that conflict who confirmed that it was not uncommon to achieve this but who never brought it up because to most people it seemed too ridiculous to be true.

Fifteen minutes of dedicated Google searching and I can can't find it. Frustrating, but I can completely understand if nobody is convinced.

Though this is delving into the "genetics determines IQ race butthurt waaaah" threads, genetic IQ is a fact and there is no reason to believe that it wouldn't manifest itself on the modern battlefield, perhaps even more so because there is no reason to cushion your enemy's failures in that instance as we do in general society.

We've all seen the footage of idiots in Libya and beyond running up to the edge of sand banks and unloading AK mags from the hip at enemies miles away in the vague hope of hitting something. This is not uncommon behaviour among populations with low IQs. A disdain for logic where it interferes with faith in god or luck or the spirits, particularly when the discomfort of patience and training come into play.

There have been recent (within 10 years) cases in Afghanistan of small special operations teams inflicting huge casualties on the enemy, but I can't find any details just searching because I can't remember any actual names related to the events.

The internet says some LRRP teams in Vietnam achieved reported kill ratios of 1:400. That wouldn't be with direct fire, but by ambush and calls for fire.

It's hard to confirm this stuff with any accuracy because it's not like both sides call a cease fire after an engagement to count bodies, and of course lots of people die hours or days later from wounds. We usually know fairly well how many we lost, but it's hard to confirm how many we killed, especially against an enemy playing the unconventional warfare game.

In Iraq our kill ratio might have been 1:4, it might have been 1:25, or anywhere between. Depends how you count fighters vs civilians. How does anyone know for sure if a dead body was a fighter, when they don't wear uniforms? I saw women spotting for insurgent fire and kids chucking grenades. Sure, some civilians got killed and that sucks, but that's war, and I know for a fact that Americans go way the fuck out of their way to avoid innocent casualties. So I'd tend to believe most of the dead bodies we left in Iraq were fighters.

Hate to be another doom and gloomer, but I have to side with Redpillage on the topic of Europeans fighting back.

It is true that these Islamic migrants as a whole have lower average IQs than the natives of their host countries. IQ has a heavy genetic component. However, genetics also influence behavioral traits. What's more, it doesn't take a very long time for genetic change to take place in a population. Major change can take place in as little as a few generations.

We constantly hear about "the awakened Saxon," "the Viking within," "the mighty Aryan warrior," etc. But the fact of the matter is, these people simply may no longer exist on a genetic level. It's quite possible that the genes which led European men to take action and fight for their homelands and people simply were bred out of the male population in large part. There should have been major action taken long ago. But so far, all northern and western Europe has done is continue to roll over. Maybe there is no sleeping beast after all. Maybe the beast has been thoroughly pacified.

https://www.thelocal.se/20160928/sweden-...on-in-2018

Sweden about to reintroduce the draft. Some generals paint the picture as if they are afraid of Russia.

In reality they know that they will need the forces to fight with the rioters and no-go-zoners - if not worse.

(09-29-2016 08:20 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  https://www.thelocal.se/20160928/sweden-...on-in-2018

Sweden about to reintroduce the draft. Some generals paint the picture as if they are afraid of Russia.

In reality they know that they will need the forces to fight with the rioters and no-go-zoners - if not worse.

I have this very bad feeling they want to draft Muslims against the Swedes...

The chickens are now coming to the roost: German health insurance premiums across the board are expected to jump by at least 7.3% next year, which supposedly is an historic increase. Not a big deal for Americans but it'll really piss off a lot of Krauts. Now I may point out that it's only for privately insured people but I'm pretty certain that it's related as healthcare cost have been exploding behind the scenes.

I very much enjoyed seeing this as I get a kick out of liberal brainwashed idiots having to pay for their ideological exploits. After all - taking care of two million foreign leeches who never paid a dime into your system will tax any socialized healthcare system. As we've said here on many occasions: You can't have open immigration and a socialized welfare/healthcare system at the same time. Someone somewhere has to pay. And as usual here in Europe, it's the Germans.

(09-29-2016 08:12 AM)rw95 Wrote:  Hate to be another doom and gloomer, but I have to side with Redpillage on the topic of Europeans fighting back.

It is true that these Islamic migrants as a whole have lower average IQs than the natives of their host countries. IQ has a heavy genetic component. However, genetics also influence behavioral traits. What's more, it doesn't take a very long time for genetic change to take place in a population. Major change can take place in as little as a few generations.

We constantly hear about "the awakened Saxon," "the Viking within," "the mighty Aryan warrior," etc. But the fact of the matter is, these people simply may no longer exist on a genetic level. It's quite possible that the genes which led European men to take action and fight for their homelands and people simply were bred out of the male population in large part. There should have been major action taken long ago. But so far, all northern and western Europe has done is continue to roll over. Maybe there is no sleeping beast after all. Maybe the beast has been thoroughly pacified.

You simply cannot reverse thirty years of brainwashing and indoctrination on a dime. It takes at least a generation. Maybe the current crop of kids, growing up under a conservative political system, would be ready to meet the challenge that encroaching Islam poses. But we all should know better. Europeans aren't fighters - most of them are cucks and will do whatever it takes to find some type of peaceful resolution.

More German guilt - this is the front page of the newspaper Die Welt today:

   

Seventy one fucking years later and the guilt trip is still going full force in Germany. No wonder they're willing to commit cultural suicide at this point.

I was talking to a Swedish friend about the draft last night. Its going to almost exclusively small town Swedes and immigrant/children of immigrants (Muslims). City folk have almost no children.

A scary thought as native Swedes are not having kids, that in 30 years 80% of the Swedish army will be Muslim.

A draft sounds good on paper, but the reality is another entirely. And don't think the politicians do not already know this.

(09-29-2016 12:30 PM)Laner Wrote:  I was talking to a Swedish friend about the draft last night. Its going to almost exclusively small town Swedes and immigrant/children of immigrants (Muslims). City folk have almost no children.

A scary thought as native Swedes are not having kids, that in 30 years 80% of the Swedish army will be Muslim.

A draft sounds good on paper, but the reality is another entirely. And don't think the politicians do not already know this.

Both Germany and Sweden should just get it over with and officially convert to Islam. Join the caliphate and abandon all ties to your cultural heritage.

More multicultural enrichment:

https://twitter.com/QuintusCurtius/statu...7185385472

Motorist in Vienna shouts "Allahu Akbar" while trying to run over pedestrians.

(09-29-2016 12:22 PM)redpillage Wrote:  More German guilt - this is the front page of the newspaper Die Welt today:



Seventy one fucking years later and the guilt trip is still going full force in Germany. No wonder they're willing to commit cultural suicide at this point.

Isn't this the guy who said that the problem with Germany is not its elites but regular Germans?

(09-29-2016 03:46 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(09-29-2016 12:22 PM)redpillage Wrote:  More German guilt - this is the front page of the newspaper Die Welt today:



Seventy one fucking years later and the guilt trip is still going full force in Germany. No wonder they're willing to commit cultural suicide at this point.

Isn't this the guy who said that the problem with Germany is not its elites but regular Germans?

That would be him (i.e. the German president). Come on now - we should be grateful that he's not ripping up the German flag on live TV Merkel style.

The argument from the past two pages is easily resolved simply by looking at ISIS' last two chief military strategists.





Both guys even had direct training by the US military.

"Immeasurable guilt". What a load of shit.

If I were a German my tack would be this. "I will fight islamic immigration because it will be bad for us but it will be MUCH, MUCH WORSE FOR THE JEWS."

Let's see the apologist pricks tackle that.

Holy shit! I just read the official stats from the German Ministry of Migration (Bamf). For 2016 until August, just shy of 600k new engineers. 66% male, mostly under 30.

So far an incease of 144,1% in comparision to last year. Yet in the MSM all they talk about is, how wonderful that deal with Turkey works and that less people are coming in. Bizarro World.

I read after 5 years living in Austria I can apply for citizenship. Them I'm free of the Nazi guilt. Let the Nazi Germans pay! Merkel never got any taxes from me and never will. Not finance the cult about the guilt industry and the welcome refugee nonsense. Austria just did change it's direction a few months ago and isn't really better I guess but soon I will now. Mexico is waiting for me. Will be a nice place because all the poor and criminal Mexicans will be in the USA.

(09-30-2016 02:57 AM)Parzival Wrote:  I read after 5 years living in Austria I can apply for citizenship. Them I'm free of the Nazi guilt. Let the Nazi Germans pay! Merkel never got any taxes from me and never will. Not finance the cult about the guilt industry and the welcome refugee nonsense. Austria just did change it's direction a few months ago and isn't really better I guess but soon I will now. Mexico is waiting for me. Will be a nice place because all the poor and criminal Mexicans will be in the USA.

Where did you get that 5 years? on the Austrian Foreign Ministry website the best scenario is 10 years:

Aliens may apply for Austrian citizenship under the following preconditions
• at least 10 years of permanent residence in Austria
• proof of sufficient financial means/secure income (including the past three years)
• no criminal record
• sufficient knowledge of the German language, Austrian history and current affairs
• positive attitude towards the Republic of Austria

https://www.bmeia.gv.at/en/embassy/consu...nship.html

A bit oftopic but about Sweden reintroducing mandatory military service. The migrant crise is not the main reason, you have to look at a bigger picture. In 2009 it was officially removed to the avarage citizens protest (almost exactly 100 years since it was introduced), but before that it had already been in decline since the collapse of the USSR. For years the swedish military had gone through a shift from a national force to defend against a case of a foreign invasion, to a focus on international service in the order to please the globalist elite, hence why swedish troops ended up taking orders from ISAF/NATO in Afghanistan without being a member in NATO (also look up Nordic Battle Group). Which leads us to why the draft was put down in the first place, because since then a loud group have been constantly yelling about joining NATO since we no longer have a reliable defence force....

Meanwhile a great amount of unconfirmed reports about russian airplanes violating the swedish airspace, the equal amount of NATO-member airplanes who violated the swedish airspace have mostly been ignorred by the "non-bias" media. It reached a climax in the autum of 2014 where a, once again, unconfirmed vilation of the swedish aquatic border in the Baltic Sea by a so called 'submarine' (that no one had seen). The media went crazy and assumed it had to be a russian one (guess by the time if it had been a report of an UFO they would have made the same assumption) and now the NATO-lobby went out even louder crying for a memebership or else Sweden would face the same as Ukraine....

The position of Sweden has been of interest for the US and others since the cold war (arguably even before that) against Russia. Its strategic position means that a membership in NATO would sorround Russias western borders and the Baltic Sea, except Finalnd who absolutly deny a membership.
Earlier this year a Host Nation Agreement went through the parlament (Riksdagen) that now means that Sweden will oficcially still be 'neutral', but can also host NATO-troops, first step to a full membership. Two weeks later after the agreement was signed they release that the incident of the claimed submarines in 2014 where false alarm...what a coincidence!

So in short, first take away the draft to say we dont have any defence force left, then take a first step to memebership in NATO, and now reintroduce it to supply NATO with troops, my two cents. Ofcourse they can also be stationed to the borders in the newly reintroduced control there because of the migrant crise that have lead to a drain of the police force, but I doubt that would be the main reason.

https://www.help.gv.at/Portal.Node/hlpd/...60422.html

I checked it, I can do it in 6 years because Germany is part of the EWR. Anyway just a joke. Not living in Merklistan is benefit enough. German citizenship still has advantages.

(09-30-2016 04:57 AM)Parzival Wrote:  Not living in Merklistan is benefit enough. German citizenship still has advantages.

Indeed, starve the Merkelistan beast by denying tax money.

Although, if Trump gets elected I am seriously considering moving to the USA, my confidence in Europe is going down each day... And I want to own guns.