(09-18-2016 03:51 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^Bouncers are haters, why you think they work that job!

Damn Rude,
I used to bounce and I tried to facilitate.....

I think that some guys are just on that tip where they wanna be the bro, or take in some of your success. Just as long as they're not blocking then its all good. Cockblocks are difficult in sets, a lot of things have not gone well with cockblocks in my experience from men and women. it's difficult to handle them, any suggestions for people on how to handle the blockers?
My options:
1.Befriend them and play a long, and get on their good side.
2. Bounce from the sitaution and open another set make that girl notice you and go back in (assuming this is night game)
but yea what are some of yalls thoughts, i know WIA in gonna come in and drop that real for sure

@Vin - you know I'm playing.

In that instance the best thing is too play it off or play dumb.

You don't want the chick to think you know them.

I've been using the dumb card on a lot of matters lately. I don't have energy to engage stupid people.

Negative energy is not good for the soul.

(09-19-2016 10:32 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I've been using the dumb card on a lot of matters lately. I don't have energy to engage stupid people.

Negative energy is not good for the soul.

Can definitely co-sign on that!

(09-11-2016 06:15 PM)Huey Wrote:  You guys are overreacting. I didn't get a hint of superiority from anyone in that thread. As for the topic of the thread, who cares? So what if blacks as a group score lower than other races on IQ tests? It says nothing about you as an individual.

That's all good and well until they start talking about "regression to the mean" (read: individual intelligence is irrelevant) while insisting that IQ is 90% genetically hardwired and unaltered by nurture/environment.

Guys love to hold out hope that there's some sort of exception carved out for them by these people in discussions like this. There really isn't - you're all the enemy, no matter how excellent you may be as an individual. In fact, the more excellent you are, the bigger an enemy you may be. All of this is weaponized against you regardless of who you are - nobody gets a pass. They're not taking any prisoners.

(09-12-2016 06:28 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  http://www.returnofkings.com/93785/what-...-black-men

This is much more interesting.

He speaks in one breath in a very respectful tone for his "colleague" Donovan Sharpe and shows great appreciation for his perspective.

In the next breath, he insists that he'd consider it a red flag if he ever ran into a white woman who had been in any sort of relationship with a man who looked like Donovan. He says that such a red flag is justified because it might show that woman was genuinely attracted to men who looked like Donovan (not good!), had an independent/rebellious spirit that would allow her to disregard all of the possible social consequences of getting with a man like Donovan (very not good!), was willing to disregard what people thought about her because she wanted to be with Donovan, or some combination of all of the above.

In short, the author says he's cool with Donovan, but would consider any woman who associated with Donovan to be damaged goods.

At some point, if you're a black male in the shadows of the new "alt-right", you think you'd have to ask: are guys with views like that really capable of being friends? Or are they merely proponents of an ideology that is fundamentally hostile to me and only really intended to fully benefit them?

Food for thought.

(09-12-2016 08:25 AM)coverdoc Wrote:  Would you guys consider being serious with someone older than yourself? What about a woman who was previously engaged or divorced? I know the golden rule of never wife up a chick who cheated on her BF, but how far removed does this apply? I mean in the sense of if she cheated on her first BF when she was 19, do you not consider her as LTR material when she is 27?

-CD

Older - possibly. Not much older. I've been more open in the past to 3/4 year+ gaps but I've become less open over time as I've realized that a) closer in age or younger is probably better for me long-term and b) those older women don't usually take a guy seriously when he's that much younger than them - women generally want guys their age or older. That being said, if I met a great girl 1 or 2 years my senior I could be open to it. I'm still young, so a yes is more feasible for me than some others here.

Previously Engaged - I'd be open to it. Would be somewhat dependent on why the engagement went south, however. I don't run into a lot of women with this kind of history at my age so I can't speak from experience.

Divorced - Maybe when I'm older.

Cheated on previous BF - Probably not.

This is making the rounds on social media. Sunday night at the Kandy Bar in Charlotte, I guess the bouncer was just straight up turning away black men and women. They are getting hammered on social media. I get racism, but in a city like Charlotte how do you really expect to stay in business if your telling a large percentage of patrons to "fuck off" at the door.







https://www.yelp.com/biz/kandy-bar-charlotte

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=kan...d9ff955,1,

Don't really like what those brothers are wearing but hey that doorman bullshit is nothing new.

Wait a SECOND!

"The dress code prohibits athletic gear, baggy clothing, tank tops, athletic hats, chains and excessive jewelry, sunglasses, sneakers and work boots"

Just found that in the news article... thats "nightclub code" for they don't want ghetto mfs in there... and I was just saying to myself watching the video.. that I didn't like what they were wearing.

I'm not sure whos side to take on this one.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/bu...76532.html

(09-20-2016 07:09 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  "The dress code prohibits athletic gear, baggy clothing, tank tops, athletic hats, chains and excessive jewelry, sunglasses, sneakers and work boots"

Funny how the dress code prohibits every black fashion cliche they could think of. I'm at the point now where I would just say take your dollars somewhere else, but that's some blatant BS, especially when they turn away properly dressed men and women.

That is no way to dress. Those yellow jeans and McDonald's work shoes are unacceptable.

They look like they are dressed to go to Romper Room not a bar/club. Baggy yellow pants and a washed out Zoom (PBS kids show in the 70s/80s) shirt -- I guess they shop at Walmart. WNLI (would not let inside). That place is probably racist but those outfits do not help their argument. WBT2NAWGWTGI (would bang the 2 narrow ass white girls waiting to get in).

Every man should try to always dress to impress, because people will find anything against you. An example is when I go on campus, no one dresses well, so I stand out more. But I notice the difference when I dress differently . There is no excuse for dressing bad and going the club.

My wardrobe is huge(for me), and really good, but I spent less than 500 on it, just because I was willing to go thrift shopping. If they can not afford to look good, maybe they can not go to the club, save that money, and buy some clean impressive clothes and be impressive.

The video needs more context, because it only shows two guys being stopped. It would have been great if there were well dressed guys being turned away.

I agree. That's no way to dress. They should take their money elsewhere. Can't blame them, but it's a cold world out there.

(09-20-2016 07:43 AM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  Funny how the dress code prohibits every black fashion cliche they could think of. I'm at the point now where I would just say take your dollars somewhere else, but that's some blatant BS, especially when they turn away properly dressed men and women.

But because of how the game is set up, where can you take your dollars?

If you wanted to set up a club/disco in Charlotte
- would the landlords rent to you?
- would the city's cops not target and harass your patrons?
- would the citizens and neighbors not call and complain about the noise

You could put something on the "black" side of town - but that'd eliminate the landlord issue. You'll still get churchy folks complaining about the clientele and cops STAY harassing people in the neighborhood.

All I can say is that it could be a whole lot worse.

On the flip side, high end Miami clubs keep out the fat chicks and the old chicks.

WIA

The place is racist.. you can tell by the dress code regulations. Anything "normal" or stereotypical black men would wear has been banned. Gotta read between the lines.

But I am glad to be a part of this thread where you guys realized what those brothers were wearing trying to get up in there was complete garbage... I wouldn't have let that bouncer catch me on that kind of bullshit for a second. You gotta know as a black man you gotta come correct or else people are gonna hate on you.

(09-20-2016 09:43 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  The place is racist.. you can tell by the dress code regulations. Anything "normal" or stereotypical black men would wear has been banned. Gotta read between the lines.

But I am glad to be a part of this thread where you guys realized what those brothers were wearing trying to get up in there was complete garbage... I wouldn't have let that bouncer catch me on that kind of bullshit for a second. You gotta know as a black man you gotta come correct or else people are gonna hate on you.

I've been turned away from places in a suit.
They will hate on you regardless.

What folks don't seem to understand is that racism isn't intelligent. It's not rational, it's not reasonable. They're afraid. They always have been, they always will be. Racism exists in Brazil, the most mixed place on earth. (And in absence of race, people will find some other bullshit reason to divide themselves - see China and Africa)

And because it's irrational, that's a market opportunity.

Just like how having sex with a chick isn't about explaining to her the best reasons why she should be sucking your dick - it's appealing to her emotional side and letting her rationalize later why it was a good idea.

The real thing is trying to get value out of the African Immigrants. What can they add to the mix, aside from not spending money on drinks and grabbing at chicks.

Figuring out how to get value out of people is the ultimate hack. You figure that out - you could rule the world.

WIA

(09-20-2016 07:43 AM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 07:09 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  "The dress code prohibits athletic gear, baggy clothing, tank tops, athletic hats, chains and excessive jewelry, sunglasses, sneakers and work boots"

Funny how the dress code prohibits every black fashion cliche they could think of. I'm at the point now where I would just say take your dollars somewhere else, but that's some blatant BS, especially when they turn away properly dressed men and women.

Let's not pretend that this is about dress code.

I wear top labels when I go out, it doesn't mean I will always get into a club.

This isn't a news story to me, this is old news.

To get off this tired tangent

What would your club be like?

My favorite spots are dive bars with a dance floor. The classic "Juke Joint".

But If I had a bigger spot
- No face control, but definitely dick control. 1 line for guys, 1 line for couples and girls.
- World Beat Night - Thursday
- EDM - Friday
- Hip Hop - Saturday
- live performances during the week

Good bar, lounge area, smoking area

WIA

(09-20-2016 10:15 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  To get off this tired tangent

What would your club be like?

My favorite spots are dive bars with a dance floor. The classic "Juke Joint".

But If I had a bigger spot
- No face control, but definitely dick control. 1 line for guys, 1 line for couples and girls.
- World Beat Night - Thursday
- EDM - Friday
- Hip Hop - Saturday
- live performances during the week

Good bar, lounge area, smoking area

WIA

I prefer smaller Rum bars with minimum tables, where the entire place turns into a dancefloor.

In all of the countries I've been to, BoB Bar in Budapest is still my favorite.

(09-20-2016 10:15 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  To get off this tired tangent

What would your club be like?

WIA

Super strict door policy, only let's me in. LOL

Thursday night seems to be the new night to party.

I got a tip off on a Karoake spot jammed with women on a Tuesday night.

I went to a EDM jam this past Saturday, Roger Sanchez was spinning.

(09-20-2016 09:42 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  But because of how the game is set up, where can you take your dollars?

If you wanted to set up a club/disco in Charlotte
- would the landlords rent to you?
- would the city's cops not target and harass your patrons?
- would the citizens and neighbors not call and complain about the noise

WIA

With the pervasiveness of social media these days, I think black folk are slowly but surely beginning to wake up and become more conscious on how we spend our dollars. This $1.6 trillion dollar sleeping giant is beginning to toss n' turn in it's sleep.

But to your aforementioned point, as long as they continue to control the real estate our options will remain limited.

A few years ago, I was looking into opening a nice cozy neo-soul and soul food lounge in a commercial building which previously housed variations thereof. The leasing agent flat-out asked me "what kind of music will you be playing," and was in no way reticent in implying the owner did not want a black orientated establishment.

. . . on that note, has anyone heeded the call to open an account at a black bank?

The door policy was discussed about 10 pages before, can we get off this topic.

Let's take a more positive outlook and talk about things that are working for us.

Racism will always be there, personally I don't care - as long as no one puts their hand on me or a loved one.

As men of color we have to try new things, if we want to experience what the world has to offer.

@DimeBait - I love the idea of a black bank, as a "Canadian" I thought about putting a few greenbacks into one of those banks.
My only concern is that the governing body SEC ultimately controls these banks, I believe?

Didn't a few of these banks go under in the last financial recession in 2008/2009?

http://blackoutcoalition.org/black-u-s-banks/

Here's a list of banks in the US. I would have already set up an account but none of them are close to me.

(09-20-2016 11:06 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  @DimeBait - I love the idea of a black bank, as a "Canadian" I thought about putting a few greenbacks into one of those banks.
My only concern is that the governing body SEC ultimately controls these banks, I believe?

Didn't a few of these banks go under in the last financial recession in 2008/2009?

I'm sure some may have folded along with the collapse of the U.S. economy then. However, most, if not all banks are FDIC insured with covers all deposits up to $100k. I just now opened an account with OneUnited since it's the largest, an offers online accounts.

Back on track, Clubwise, my preference these days would be a nice laid back jazz, neo-soul type lounge. Dimly let with candles on each table. None of that bottle and table service shit. Just a nice comfortable lounge with music soft enough to engage in a conversation with someone.

(09-20-2016 07:09 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Don't really like what those brothers are wearing but hey that doorman bullshit is nothing new.

Wait a SECOND!

"The dress code prohibits athletic gear, baggy clothing, tank tops, athletic hats, chains and excessive jewelry, sunglasses, sneakers and work boots"

Just found that in the news article... thats "nightclub code" for they don't want ghetto mfs in there... and I was just saying to myself watching the video.. that I didn't like what they were wearing.

I'm not sure whos side to take on this one.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/bu...76532.html

If you look past the bouncer and the dread guy @ :17 on the vid you can clearly see a white guy in the club wearing shorts.







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(09-20-2016 11:06 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  The door policy was discussed about 10 pages before, can we get off this topic.

I agree with you although I'm glad it was brought up again... I think it needs to be emphasized to others to stop dressing like crap and hold ourselves to a higher standard.