Why dont White Europeans hold peaceful marches and protest against immigration? Are they afraid of being called racists?

Welcome to the forum fella, though the introduction thread is here:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-5605.html

(09-14-2016 10:48 AM)Pride male Wrote:  Why dont White Europeans hold peaceful marches and protest against immigration? Are they afraid of being called racists?

Because they don't want to be charged with hate crimes and put in prison.

(09-14-2016 10:48 AM)Pride male Wrote:  Why dont White Europeans hold peaceful marches and protest against immigration? Are they afraid of being called racists?

When millions of Spaniards, Portuguese went to the streets to protest austerity measures, when millions of Greeks went to the streets to do the same - what did the elite care?

Nothing.

Hundreds of thousands already went to the streets across multiple countries.

What do you think really happens?

By the way - if a picture of your face is found anywhere, then you can lose some jobs being called a racist. Also the radical left Antifa hits back, though that is less of a problem.

The main point is that it simply would not matter. Even if you had millions of Germans going to the street every week, they would downplay the numbers.

Besides - the average European does not see the danger yet. Otherwise they would all be voting for the Nationalist parties.

The elite does not care about demonstrations unless you start igniting torches and marching towards not only the parliament, but also their private houses. And even then - the politicians are paid to be the punching balls and take the heat. They are the ones who get paid to have tomatoes thrown at them.

But in reality they are just taking orders from far more powerful people. And the difficulty is that those true leaders are not even giving the orders themselves, but are using proxies like 'consultants', lobbyists, masonic masters, CEOs, high-level administrative officers in governments - they are telling the proxies of the proxies - the politiicians - what to do.

So what the fuck would demonstrations change if you can just complain to the proxies of the proxies?

This system is too far gone in order to be changed by elections or 'demonstrations'. As a comparison - the last US candidate that was not 100% elite sanctioned was Lincoln. (Trump may be an outsider, but he is certainly sanctioned as far as I am concerned.) The elections are a farce.

In Europe you already have more opposition, but as Roosh pointed out - when all the Nationalists are in power, then maybe the party can be started for real. It will be too late to change the outcome by then.

There is an interesting interview with Czech president Miloš Zeman in the Guardian
Miloš Zeman: the hardline Czech leader fanning hostility to refugees

Few of good parts

Quote:Last year, the president – whose drinking exploits, including occasionally appearing to be inebriated in public, have become legendary – stirred controversy by wishing “death to abstainers and vegetarians” during a meeting with winemakers.

Quote:Zeman has warned that the Czech Republic – home to only 3,500 Muslims out of a population of 10.5 million, according to official figures – could be targeted in a jihadi attack and urged Czechs to arm themselves against what he referred to as a possible “super-Holocaust”.

Quote:“My first sentence in the meeting with Madam Chancellor was: ‘If you invite somebody to your homeland, you do not send them for a lunch to your neighbours.’

Quote:Zeman’s intemperate and, to many, downright offensive language has drawn accusations of populism and inevitable comparisons with the US Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump. He counters by citing Winston Churchill.
“Winston Churchill has been always a populist and he was right. And all who criticised him were wrong,” says Zeman. “What does it mean, a populist? It is a slogan, a label, nothing more.”

Quote:The union, he says, is like a broken-down train described in an old Soviet joke about the collapse of communism. “The third part of the joke has the train with Brezhnev on board,” he explains. “He says, ‘comrades, if the train stops, we shall close the curtain and imitate that the train is still going on’. The European Union is the third part of this joke. They simply close the curtains and simulate that without any change of strategy, the European Union is going on.”

(09-14-2016 11:06 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Besides - the average European does not see the danger yet. Otherwise they would all be voting for the Nationalist parties.

Spot on, a lot of people here in rural Belgium don't realize how big the threat is. Even after the Brussels attack and Molenbeek famously known as a hotbed for Islamists they refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem.

I don't know if it's full-blown political correctness or a massive disdain for Western civilization and its culture.

I would say neither. I associate it with the fact that societal fabric is becoming thinner and therefore you worry less and less about your wider community, the tragedy is only understood when it hits you or your family, and even then there are cases of denial and weakish reactions. Sad.

In the 80s when there was the NATO Double-Track Decision, about 500,000 people did protest regular at the peak even 1,3 million. You guys know what did happen? Nothing.
I always remember the quite, if elections would change something, they would be forbid.

Quote:This system is too far gone in order to be changed by elections or 'demonstrations'. As a comparison - the last US candidate that was not 100% elite sanctioned was Lincoln. (Trump may be an outsider, but he is certainly sanctioned as far as I am concerned.) The elections are a farce.

A dubious claim - literally all of America's top .01% are lined up against Trump. There are trillions against him. How can you call that elite sanctioned is just denial. No idea why you continue to hate or underestimate Trump with unsubstantiated claims.

Much of Russia's elite believes Trump is legit and is the first chance for American Freedom in a long, long time. That's why they openly discuss the odds of his assassination:

http://www.infowars.com/putin-appointed-...ald-trump/

(09-14-2016 01:04 PM)Don Pablo Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 11:06 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Besides - the average European does not see the danger yet. Otherwise they would all be voting for the Nationalist parties.

Spot on, a lot of people here in rural Belgium don't realize how big the threat is. Even after the Brussels attack and Molenbeek famously known as a hotbed for Islamists they refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem.

I don't know if it's full-blown political correctness or a massive disdain for Western civilization and its culture.

It's just socially unacceptable in middle class circles in most Western European countries to hold the invaders to account at all.
The most you can get away with are casual inoffensive phrases like "It's terrible too see all of this, and obviously taking everyone in isn't really a solution, but we have to help those poor desperate refugees!"
Anything stronger than that and you risk social ostracisation from your peers and 90% of social media friends and acquaintances.
Most people aren't going to risk that even if they know deep down it's cowardly.
There's also the fact that almost all women in their social circles are pro-invasion, so that's another reason why many Western men don't dare go against the narrative.
Add to that most media outlets massively pushing the invasion too, further brainwashing the masses.
So there's not enough at stake for these middle class people (who make up the majority in many Western European countries) to take that risk, not yet anyway.
When things get worse, we may see some more signs of K-selected awareness seeping into these people, and their opinions might change, but it could well be too late by then.

The narrative that the majority of people want this and don't feel threatened by what's happening is bullshit, just another lie that people are led to believe through propaganda.

I am young, which means that me and my friends are going through the heights of Marxist indoctrination, and I have several friends who act like brainwashed pussies outwardly, but aren't behind closed doors. Ever since the migrant crisis and the terrorist attacks here in Brussels I have heard comments such as 'I want all of them out, now!' and similar stuff from people who you wouldn't expect to talk in a manner like that.

A girl I know posted a poster of Vlaams Belang, our nationalist party, after the terrorist attacks in Paris on her Facebook page and she got a shitload of likes including from people who I thought were brainwashed, and this wasn't even a very popular girl. She deleted it afterwards, which confirms what amity is saying: people are afraid to speak out.

I remember a poll from all over the EU back in 2013, long before the migrant crisis, where the majority in every single country opposed mass immigration from third world countries except the Swedes, which was probably due to their consensus culture rather than really believing it and the situation has changed significantly there anyway: the nationalist party in Sweden is now polling at 20-25% as opposed to 10-13% in the 2014 general elections there.

The biggest problem isn't that people haven't woken up, it's that most of them believe this was all just a mistake and not something done on (((purpose))). This has the consequence that most of them will keep voting for the establishment parties, from left to cuckservative. Nationalist parties won't get into power until it gets really, really bad here.

I wrote about this topic earlier in this thread:

(07-18-2016 07:12 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  

(07-18-2016 06:38 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  For any Europeans on this forum, are people who are "normal" blue pill types waking up at all or are they still desperate to defend the multicultural anti-european narritive?

I think this question each and every attack. Maybe now they will wake up. Maybe this time they will wake up...

This is a hard question to answer because of the "silent majority" factor: you may see a lot of leftists virtue signaling on Facebook but that doesn't mean they represent the general population, normal people are afraid to express their opinion. Most polls, before and after the migrant crisis, have shown that the great majority of the population is strongly against third world immigration in literally every European country except for Sweden.

A friend of mine was a leftist before the migrant crisis and all these terrorist attacks, but he has changed his stance on immigration heavily, he has literally said he wants all Muslims to be deported. He is still leftist economically, but he now recognizes that it can only work in high trust societies aka white countries.





I also see a lot of people who are still blind. These people tend to work in the public sector and live in homogenous towns outside of the city, just like those hypocritical Northern liberals in your country.

However, it doesn't really matter to me how many of them 'wake up' as long as most people will keep voting for the same old establishment parties. To me, people voting for the centre-right cuckersvative globalists are just as guilty as the ones voting for leftist parties. The only option is voting for nationalist parties and as long as the native population refuses to do that, I don't care 'how many people have woken up', they deserve everything that's coming to them.

You could say most people have woken up by now, judging by the Facebook comment sections of our biggest newspapers and news stations, but when they're in the voting booth again, most of them will be too cowardly to vote for real nationalist parties (Front National in France, FPÖ in Austria, Vlaams Belang in Flanders/Belgium) parties rather than cuckservatives (LR, ÖVP, N-VA).

I also frequent a Belgian football forum and its political subforum is quite leftist. Most of them actually recognize that the number of immigrants coming in is unsustainable and that Islam is a problem, but when you propose solutions such as these to them and suggest them to vote for nationalist parties they mock and ridicule you and give you the typical leftist responses we're all familiar with here.

(09-14-2016 01:55 PM)amity Wrote:  Most people aren't going to risk that even if they know deep down it's cowardly.
There's also the fact that almost all women in their social circles are pro-invasion, so that's another reason why many Western men don't dare go against the narrative.
Add to that most media outlets massively pushing the invasion too, further brainwashing the masses.
So there's not enough at stake for these middle class people (who make up the majority in many Western European countries) to take that risk, not yet anyway.

Well I did take that risk last week-end on a drunken night, but since I was drunk I guess they didn't take me seriously. I could feel the animosity tho.

I will try again some time but I can already sense where this is gonna go. Most of my friends are leftists who pride themselves in having a better understanding of what's going on in the world but they all fall in the same trap believing and regurgitating what the MSM is giving them, without verifying their sources.

True about the media, everyday on German national tv they put the refugees on a good light, showing faces of Syrians integrating, landing jobs. While I'm sure that these people exist, they are just a minority. The majority is not at all like that but that's no secret here.

^^RaccoonFace
I feel you on this, I'm sure that the majority is against all this BS. But how could I know? My social reach goes from 17 to 23 y/o, so my perception is skewed. Millennials aren't the brightest. And most of them wouldn't risk being called fascists for denouncing everything.

As to the reactions after the Brussels attack, it was the complete opposite of what you said. All I heard was "It's not all Muslims, most Muslims are good" and the Pray for Brussels shit. Like this is going to resolve anything.

But shit might be different up north. I'm in Wallonia, where nothing makes sense.

(09-13-2016 12:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:00 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 11:50 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 10:15 AM)Pride male Wrote:  If America Talmudic Jews hadnt instigated war in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Somalia and Syria would Europe be flooded with Muslim refugees?

Fixed that for you.

Samseau, what do you mean by "Talmudic" Jews?

The ones who reject Christ and follow the Talmud. They believe in Jewish supremacism, engage in regular deceit and usury of peoples all over the world, and always gravitate to media based occupations in order to brainwash and advance their agenda.

What kind of Jews believe in Jesus? Speaking of Christians, they are something else completely.

Now, back to the topic. I partially agree with you. The most powerful enemy of the West are various international cabals, in which atheistic Jews predominate (and I sincerely believe that most of the forum knows at least several of them). They do not hate only hate you (and me). They hate even their own (as Palpatine leaks concerning Israel proved, for example).

Is it true Hungary isnt accepting immigrants?

(09-14-2016 10:48 AM)Pride male Wrote:  Why dont White Europeans hold peaceful marches and protest against immigration? Are they afraid of being called racists?

To speak for my country:

We deal with guest workers children (Turkish and Moroccan 2nd generation youth). They cause the problems, the current migrants not so much (yet). So current migrants don't get the bad rep (yet).

The current migrants are still quite invisible. Now there is an emergency order close to migrant camp Pekela: http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/26610...ela__.html

But Pekela is in the northeast, far from where most people live.

In short, we aren't bothered by them in daily life. We are bothered by 2nd generation immigrants.

(09-14-2016 05:14 PM)Pride male Wrote:  Is it true Hungary isnt accepting immigrants?

Haha fuck no, we don't want them anywhere near. 150 year of Ottoman rule is hard to forget.

Also the welfare system is kinda non existent so they would move out to greener pastures anyway....

Have you guys read the stories where these "refugees" traveled back home for vacation? It is too funny.

(09-14-2016 05:10 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:00 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 11:50 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 10:15 AM)Pride male Wrote:  If America Talmudic Jews hadnt instigated war in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Somalia and Syria would Europe be flooded with Muslim refugees?

Fixed that for you.

Samseau, what do you mean by "Talmudic" Jews?

The ones who reject Christ and follow the Talmud. They believe in Jewish supremacism, engage in regular deceit and usury of peoples all over the world, and always gravitate to media based occupations in order to brainwash and advance their agenda.

What kind of Jews believe in Jesus? Speaking of Christians, they are something else completely.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Christ was a Jew, all of the original Christians were Jews, Christ only preached the gospel to Jews. To this day the Orthodox call Christ the King of the Jews.

The Jesus question is still the defining question for all Jews.

VIDEO: Shocking moment 'mass street brawl breaks out between migrants and German locals'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/7108...gee-policy

Meanwhile in the RVF forums:

(09-15-2016 12:57 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 05:10 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:00 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 11:50 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Fixed that for you.

Samseau, what do you mean by "Talmudic" Jews?

The ones who reject Christ and follow the Talmud. They believe in Jewish supremacism, engage in regular deceit and usury of peoples all over the world, and always gravitate to media based occupations in order to brainwash and advance their agenda.

What kind of Jews believe in Jesus? Speaking of Christians, they are something else completely.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Christ was a Jew, all of the original Christians were Jews, Christ only preached the gospel to Jews. To this day the Orthodox call Christ the King of the Jews.

The Jesus question is still the defining question for all Jews.

If I understood you well enough, basically your congregation divided Jews into those who accepted Jesus (Christians) and those who didn't (...Jews)?

I do not agree with that reasoning, but, it certainly is a good topic to discuss in some other thread.

(09-15-2016 04:35 AM)Irenicus Wrote:  

(09-15-2016 12:57 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 05:10 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:00 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Samseau, what do you mean by "Talmudic" Jews?

The ones who reject Christ and follow the Talmud. They believe in Jewish supremacism, engage in regular deceit and usury of peoples all over the world, and always gravitate to media based occupations in order to brainwash and advance their agenda.

What kind of Jews believe in Jesus? Speaking of Christians, they are something else completely.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Christ was a Jew, all of the original Christians were Jews, Christ only preached the gospel to Jews. To this day the Orthodox call Christ the King of the Jews.

The Jesus question is still the defining question for all Jews.

If I understood you well enough, basically your congregation divided Jews into those who accepted Jesus (Christians) and those who didn't (...Jews)?

I do not agree with that reasoning, but, it certainly is a good topic to discuss in some other thread.

This has nothing to do with my congregation, it has to do with historical facts.

(09-15-2016 06:35 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-15-2016 04:35 AM)Irenicus Wrote:  

(09-15-2016 12:57 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 05:10 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  

(09-13-2016 12:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  The ones who reject Christ and follow the Talmud. They believe in Jewish supremacism, engage in regular deceit and usury of peoples all over the world, and always gravitate to media based occupations in order to brainwash and advance their agenda.

What kind of Jews believe in Jesus? Speaking of Christians, they are something else completely.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Christ was a Jew, all of the original Christians were Jews, Christ only preached the gospel to Jews. To this day the Orthodox call Christ the King of the Jews.

The Jesus question is still the defining question for all Jews.

If I understood you well enough, basically your congregation divided Jews into those who accepted Jesus (Christians) and those who didn't (...Jews)?

I do not agree with that reasoning, but, it certainly is a good topic to discuss in some other thread.

This has nothing to do with my congregation, it has to do with historical facts.

To each his own.

We are both in the Trump and neomasculinity trains, and that is what it truly matters.

http://www.infowars.com/prominent-author...t-muslims/

Paul Joseph Watson Wrote:French authorities are preparing for “civil war” against Muslims in order to “clean up” the country, according to prominent author Éric Zemmour, who claims a high placed government source told him of the plan.

Franco-Algerian Zemmour gave an interview with French radio station RTL during which he revealed details of a program called “Operation Ronces,” developed in coordination with the Israeli Army based on their experiences in Gaza.

The French government has been secretly preparing for a “civil war” against Muslims as a way to “clean up” the country in response to numerous riots and terror attacks in recent years, claims Zemmour, who characterizes the plan as a “new reconquista on their own soil”.

According to Speisa, Zemmour says “his source is high in the French command”.

Zemmour, who was a reporter for Le Figaro and appears as a guest on French current affairs shows, is a controversial figure and a strong opponent of immigration.

Zemmour’s warning is echoed by Patrick Calvar, who is the head of the Directorate General of Internal Security (DGSI). Calvar told members of a French parliamentary commission earlier this summer that France was “on the brink of civil war”.

As we reported back in July, following the Nice truck attack, Jonathan Miller, who is an elected council member in the French village of Caux, said that the attack had “shaken France to the brink of a terrifying escalation” and that citizens were responding by joining gun clubs.

As we also highlighted last year, French security forces are also preparing for mass civil unrest and radicalized immigrants taking over entire neighborhoods, according to intelligence sources.

Last week, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said that new terror attacks in France were inevitable and that 15,000 Islamic extremists who are already living in the country were in the process of being radicalized.

Yeah I posted about that Zemmour guy. I'd take that story with a grain of salt. I think he might be the French version of what Pamela Gellar is in the US.

Samseau, it's a controversial topic but you should make a "Jew Master Thread" to expose your theories. Every comment I see around here regarding Jews is often terribly vague.

An add in Germany about making girls interested in wearing a Hijab. These parodies are getting better each da.......

Oh wait.